Homeless people and the Internet

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  1. jfrancis says:

    @56 If you’re offended, I’ll stop using it, but it’s somewhat the same as renaming that Sergio Leone movie, ‘The Good People, the Bad People, and the Ugly People’

  2. Anonymous says:

    I lived in my car for awhile, about 10 years ago. It’s a crappy place to be. The people you thought were friends and family just sort of shrug and laugh. “Sorry! Can’t help ya!” they say with big smiles. They don’t even try. They just laugh.

    At my lowest point, I broke into a family member’s house just to use their shower and search for a job while they were at work. A lot of the money I begged went to gasoline, razors and the laundromat as I was always job-hunting.

    A distant acquaintance gave me his sister-in-law’s number to call, because she worked for some company that maybe might want to hire me. Well, they did hire me – for $10 an hour – and I got back on my feet.

    Ten years later, I’m doing fine. But the point is that, if providing public network access is viable, DO IT. Give the homeless every resource to lift themselves up. I don’t know if it should be given a “human right” status, but it would be a noble social program to institute.

  3. teufelsdroch says:

    @12:

    I met a homeless guy living around Union Station who maintained a blog about various political goings-on of the area. I’m not sure that he was totally right in the head, but the blogging seemed to keep him plugged into humanity…

    The thread reminds me of Videodrome‘s Cathode Ray Mission. From the pic:

    “BO:In their case, it’s not a style. It’s a disease caused by their lack of access to the cathode-ray tube.
    MR: You think TV can help them?
    BO: Watching TV will help patch them back into the world’s mixing board.
    MR: Absolutely.
    MR: I guess you encourage Father’s derelicts to make home movies for the world’s mixing board.
    BO: Professor O’Blivion sends videos all over the world.
    MR: Is the Professor here?
    BO: I am my father’s screen. Once you’ve told me what this is about, he may send you a cassette. Which format would you like?
    MR: It’ll make conversation difficult.
    BO: My father has not engaged in conversation for at least 20 years. The monologue is his preferred mode of discourse.
    BO: Format?
    MR: Videodrome.”

    Best. Movie. Ever.

  4. Itsumishi says:

    But, I don’t see how we go from a pay service to free access for everyone in five years time. It does seem like in the past couple years free wireless access points are popping up at a lot of food/drink businesses. I think that sort of access could reach the tipping point in Cory’s projected timeline. But, I don’t know about free wireless access in my house.

    Where did Cory say internet access would be free? Water is a human right, but you have to pay for the water that comes from your tap.

  5. Talia says:

    #15: what the bloody hell are you talking about?
    Are you thus arguing that access to sustenance and clean water are not human rights either?

    And what are you blathering about “using force against you?” That makes no sense! When does violence come into the picture? o.O And who says YOU’d have to pay for internet for anyone but yourself? No one is saying that. So I’m not sure what you’re all up in arms about, unless you’re just angry that these “darn stinky homeless people” are all being clever about obtaining internet access and they should “stick to the gutter where they belong” or somesuch.

  6. Pantograph says:

    Well you know they’re all secret billionaires, so you’d expect them to pay for their own internets.

  7. Anonymous says:

    As the economy and job situation worsen, I have thought about the return of Hoovervilles. Then I think that tent cities for the homeless these days would surely have WiFi access. Were I to lose my home (being a boomer, it’s just a health crisis away), my laptop would be one of the last items to go. I’m interested to see an increase in the sales of the half-size laptops. Much more portable…

  8. amused says:

    “You don’t need a TV. You don’t need a radio. You don’t even need a newspaper,” says Mr. Pitts, an aspiring poet in a purple cap and yellow fleece jacket, who says he has been homeless for two years. “But you need the Internet…”

    Snow Crash anyone?

    Life in a storage unit versus the metaverse…

  9. Shelby Davis says:

    For a while now, I’ve wondered about adopting this kind of lifestyle. If there was a Kindle-type device with a word-processor build in, I could buy a lifetime subscription of cellular internet, hop on a bike, and spend all my time writing and submitting to magazines, reading everything out there, and biking across the country.

    Logistical problems abound, I’m sure, but it looks like fun in my mind.

  10. nanuq says:

    “Logistical problems abound, I’m sure, but it looks like fun in my mind.”

    Considering that homeless people are often targets of violence including “sports-killings”, maybe not that much fun.

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/02/19/homeless.attacks/index.html

  11. zuzu says:

    c.f. Adrian Lamo (the “homeless hacker”)

    Aspiring computer programmer Paul Weston, 29, says his Macintosh PowerBook has been a “lifeboat” since he was laid off from his job as a hotel clerk in December and moved to a shelter. Sitting in a Whole Foods store with free wireless access, Mr. Weston searches for work and writes a computer program he hopes to sell eventually.

    Living in a U-Store-It and using VR goggles, that’s basically Hiro Protagonist.

    The future is shaping up to be almost identical to Snow Crash.

  12. trippcook says:

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  13. dd528 says:

    $59 a month? $2 a day? How is anyone supposed to live on that?

    Someone seems to have accidentally given you the impression that the purpose of the American welfare system is to help people.

  14. trippcook says:

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  15. trippcook says:

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  16. Takuan says:

    what IS the American welfare system for?

  17. mdh says:

    $59 a month? $2 a day? How is anyone supposed to live on that?

    Seconded. We’ve got some nice infrastructure for a third world nation.

  18. wolfiesma says:

    The welfare system employs tens of thousands of workers. So, jobs for college educated psych and soc and english majors is one thing the system is for.

  19. arkizzle says:

    Wolfiesma..

    Hmm, just like philosophers then, who only seem to exist to teach other people about philosophy :)

  20. mdh says:

    tripcook gets disemvoweled for being a total douche without being the least bit clever about it in 3…2…1…

    this ain’t 4chan, friend.

  21. trippcook says:

    $59 a month? We just had layoffs in my small-ass town, and dudes were getting around $300 weekly on unemployment.

  22. Anonymous says:

    I live in Scandinavia and “American welfare system” does not compute. Though it might make for a good comedy routine.

  23. acb says:

    They could make three-strikes work by having a middle ground: having a small whitelist of sites to which access is a “human right”, guaranteed for anyone. These sites will be things like government/public information sites, and possibly some media/news/corporate sites which have been carefully vetted and abide by a code of conduct. The rules will preclude or severely restrict user-generated content. Webmail providers will run special “rights” versions which prohibit attachments, limit maximum message sizes and such. Everything else will be a privilege you lose if you infringe copyrights, use drugs, fall behind on your child support or piss off the wrong people.

  24. trippcook says:

    mdh, I can be nicer about it. Internet access isn’t a fundamental human right, and anyone who thinks it is spends a lot of time on the internet and doesn’t deal with / hang out with / work with any actual unemployed or homeless people, to whom internet access is concern #10000 on a long-ass list. I can think of 100 things the average unemployed/homeless american would rather have guaranteed them than internet access.

    The idea that it’s analogous to, say, police protection or welfare on the list of things the state should provide is, I felt, ludicrous on its face. I will try to express these thoughts with less smartassery next time.

  25. DWittSF says:

    Well, gee, the homeless walk on city sidewalks and streets every day–how did those things get there for everybody to use? Oh yeah, before the teabag movement, there used to be such a thing in the US as the ‘commonwealth.’

  26. Takuan says:

    access to the web is like basic literacy. Life without either is possible, but who would want to?

  27. wolfiesma says:

    Ark, Let’s not get started on the popular pastime of going to school for 25+ years to then turn around and start teaching where you started. There must be something more to the education system than simply perpetuating itself, but not always…

  28. Takuan says:

    “teacher” is one of the proto-memes.

  29. wolfiesma says:

    In a way, schools are sort of shelters, for kids and all the teachers inside. But then, after high school, you have to pay to go. Without a job, or a house, there often isn’t anywhere to go all day for th 18+ crowd. There’s the library, parks… but the public commonwealth does seem to be getting smaller all the time. Did you hear CA is closing 80 percent of public parks?? Cray-zee.

  30. mdh says:

    trippcook, you may be able to think of those things, but unless you are homeless, your opinion is not as worthy as you think it is.

    Unless you think homeless people need to be spoken for, rather than listened too, which is very much how you come across.

  31. Takuan says:

    ever hear of the Pratchettian Theory of universities as coral reefs?

  32. JoshuaZ says:

    Freed of access to information is in the first article of the Constitution of Beta Colony. Oh, we’re on Earth. Never mind.

    Joking aside, Bujold saw something like this for a society that was centuries in the future from now. It is interesting to see the notion of net access as a fundamental right possibly happening much sooner.

  33. Takuan says:

    A Republic of the Homeless, founded in the abandoned national parks of California.

  34. arkizzle says:

    The Californian parks business is insane. Things are looking bad.

  35. wolfiesma says:

    A lot of people use the state parks for inexpensive housing. Camping fees are cheaper than hotels, and you can live out of a campsite for a couple of weeks before you have to move on… I don’t know, maybe it will be easier for homeless people to live in the woods if all the rangers get laid off…

  36. Takuan says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure

    today an Enclosure of the right to make a living.

  37. Gilgongo says:

    Every age adds its own essentials. Here in the UK, social services have a list of things without which life can be deemed as being “below the poverty line.” One of those things is tea. 200 years ago, tea was a total luxury.

    Internet, tea, same difference. This is the march of human progress – and it’s a beautiful thing.

  38. Takuan says:

    for Gilgongo to say “This is the march of human progress – and it’s a beautiful thing.”…

  39. Takuan says:

    Kurt would be proud?

  40. Avram / Moderator says:

    That thing about California’s parks is shocking, but now that I think about it, since Schwarzenegger was elected in order to impoverish the state.

  41. Anonymous says:

    interesting perspective about modern homelessness.

    http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sfo/969985572.html

    I had all my stuff in storage and slept at my job for a year or so not long ago…

  42. Antinous / Moderator says:

    If you call my local police department to report that your car windows have been smashed and your laptop stolen, they give you their web address and tell you to fill out an online report. Seriously. So, yes, it is now a vital utility because government has rolled up in-person and phone services and tossed them in the back of the closet.

  43. Anonymous says:

    I’ve lived in CA my whole life. Spent a lot of time camping in state parks. As far as I’m concerned, the parks that hold the Redwood forests are jewels of the planet. There’s no other place I’ve been that so completely refuels my spirit. I’d hate to see anything happen to these parks.

    Problem is the state has a whole lot less money. Too many poorly considered amendments to the state constitution that fix spending for various services. A legislature that for years has been incapable of facing the most important issues. A largely apathetic and poorly informed electorate. We in CA may not have the leaders we want, but we have the ones we deserve.

    I’m tired of hearing people blame Arnold, or even the legislature. The system is designed so that a politician can “read” their constituency, and then hook up with whatever special interest group(s) will appeal to their voters, and just start sucking at the hind teat of big business, or agriculture, or big labor, or whatever. The entire process is very predictable. Gray Davis, Pete Wilson, doesn’t matter. Just different faces to the same old greed. In defense of Arnold, at least he has tried to bust up the gerrymandering that plays a significant role in the dysfunction, but it won’t be enough.

    Wow, after reading this, I may need medication!

  44. Anonymous says:

    Been homeless for a while. Internet access is everywhere. Most of the time it’s the little bit of hope that’s a change for the better. Besides, it’s nice to know that no one really cares on a global scale. Kinda’ makes me feel better about being where I’m at.

  45. Crawford Tillinghast says:

    For some reason when I first looked at the subject line I thought it said “Homeless people *ate the Internet”.

    Long night folks, sorry.

  46. Takuan says:

    snardpick point: “hind teat” implies the lesser (or none) of the pork barrel feed. I think you mean “teat”.

  47. Anonymous says:

    I can think of 100 things the average unemployed/homeless american would rather have guaranteed them than internet access.

    I was homeless for years, and though I wouldn’t want to encourage “douchebaggery” I would agree with this statement.

    I think the Videodrome analogy is apt. The “internet” is just the next “television.” The “social” aspect is an illusion.

  48. LB says:

    Reminds me of Alice and Elmont, the two homeless people from Doonesbury.

  49. dimmer says:

    “it’s nice to know that no one really cares on a global scale”

    Now there’s a statement that can be read many ways! I trust it applies to the non-freaked total paranoid folks who don’t lock down their WiFi networks but secure their computers instead.

    But on a global scale, no, no one really cares (in general). Sad.

  50. Anonymous says:

    Unless you think homeless people need to be spoken for, rather than listened too

    Well, that’s just the wumpus arrow coming back around to our cave, isn’t it.

    Speaking for homeless people with laptops? That’s cyberpunk, right there. Sci-fi writers have been doing this for decades, they invented homeless people with laptops.

    Now there are real homeless people with laptops, and does Boing Boing say “damn, dude shouldn’t have to hang out in a bus station just ’cause he’s got no place else to go”? No, of course not, we said that in the ’80s and nobody cared. Now we say “hey look, its teh cyb3rpunk! lap70ps r00L”

  51. wolfiesma says:

    I wonder if those Street Sheets written and distributed by homeless people in a bunch of big cities even exist anymore. I haven’t seen any of those in a long time. Maybe they are online now…

  52. ArghMonkey says:

    Cory is exactly right.

    As more people bank, shop, communicate, eventually vote? there will be more and more people setting up their lives assuming access to the internet.

    This also means that business have a stake in making sure internet is free and easily accessible, sales down? well if X amount of more people had internet access they could buy your goods. Sales down? well if X amount of people had even faster internet then you could get more sales!

    Its inevitable that internet access will be seen as a human right but like most rights it will probably take a catastrophe, like a giant voting scandal or worse to get government and business to make sure the internet is avialable to everyone, even the poor.

    To me the real debate is about net neutrality, like I said maybe the lack of net neutrality will be what makes sure the internet is free and easy to access but what damage will corporations do and how long will it take to overturn their stupid moves? till a generation that “gets it” takes over? maybe.

  53. mgfarrelly says:

    Working in libraries I’ve seen the homeless really benefiting from computer access for years now. Whether it was simply getting information about social services, vet benefits or just talking to friends and family, being able to get online is life-changing for the homeless.

    It’s why “odor ordinances” and other byzantine rules set up by some libraries get many librarians to dig in their heels in opposition. When you see someone go from living in their car to working full time simply because they could print resumes, find jobs and have a means of contact all from a library terminal, you get a sense of just how powerful this whole “internet” dohickey really is.

  54. Takuan says:

    why, just why is it so hard for a country that can spend trillions on foreign war ratholes to set up public dormitories, bath houses and web access points? Just what exactly is the problem? Any high school administrator even could handle the logistics.

  55. continuedfraction says:

    “And even then, there will be destitute former music execs, living rough on the streets, using their laptops to argue that no, it’s not a human right: you should be deprived of your Internet access if you’re accused of copyright infringement, because the Internet is just a machine for making copies of trivial, copyrighted entertainment products.”

    Regarding your choice of the word “trivial”:

    As a pure mathematician I have been long struck by the fact that the information that is being fought over is the least valuable. Arguably, the most valuable information is in the areas of pure mathematics, physics, and perhaps chemistry and biology. (Biology is only starting mature now.) Yet it is in these areas that the information is most “free”, in mathematics and physics we happily upload original discoveries to arXiv.org, to enhance the advance of human knowledge. And the for-profit journals will be gone soon, hopefully– an editorial imprimatur is all that is really needed.

    Yet the battle is over the “trivial”. And it is an important battle. If the old business models win, the may very well inhibit “pure” research. That would be a disaster.

  56. spazzm says:

    To my knowledge there is no universally recognised treaty which would ensure the right to access water or food..

    I don’t know if it counts as a treaty, but this little known document that the US govt. has signed guarantees “…the right to life, liberty and security of person.”

    It’s hard to see how one could live without access to water or food.

  57. Anonymous says:

    “preemptive strike against naysayers: “Human rights” aren’t only water, food and shelter, they include such “nonessentials” as free speech, education, and privacy”

    I would say that these “nonessentials” form the basis of current international human rights law. To my knowledge there is no universally recognised treaty which would ensure the right to access water or food..

  58. gmoke says:

    Used to teach basic web navigation back in the day at a public access computing site in downtown Boston called Virtually Wired. Taught everybody from the former publisher of the Atlantic Monthly to the homeless how to search the web of the mid-1990s. In fact, the homeless was a specific target of our work. We had classes in job search, job and computer skills. We employed some homeless and formerly homeless too.

    It was a magical place that lasted for a couple of years and later was rolled into the existing community development corporation and other non-profit agencies.

    Net access is going to be free and ubiquitous in cities as part of wireless network bleed. It already is in many places for those who care to look and computers cane be found on the street or at Goodwill and Sallie Ann’s.

    Now, consider the possibilities as the tech migrates to cell phones, handheld, and wearable devices. Ten years ago, I thought I’d certainly have a wearable computer and would be online all the time everywhere I wanted to be by now. Unfortunately, the big money boyz came in and froze the tech to amortize their investments. I don’t think they can hold the convergence between the cell phone and the computer much longer.

  59. Anonymous says:

    Here’s a much more likely prediction: the UN won’t have even discussed network access as a human right within ten years, let alone five…

    We view those other “nonessential” rights as being eroded more and more every day – so, do you honestly think that the same governments (being lobbied to disconnect people on the unproven allegations of the *AA corporations) will enshrine the right to internet use? Within five years?!

  60. futbol789 says:

    I met a homeless guy living around Union Station who maintained a blog about various political goings-on of the area. I’m not sure that he was totally right in the head, but the blogging seemed to keep him plugged into humanity, if even that it gave him something to talk about with folks. Of all the challenges presented by homeless populations, I think keeping them feeling human, still plugged into the world, is the biggest challenge.

    But, I don’t see how we go from a pay service to free access for everyone in five years time. It does seem like in the past couple years free wireless access points are popping up at a lot of food/drink businesses. I think that sort of access could reach the tipping point in Cory’s projected timeline. But, I don’t know about free wireless access in my house.

    @antonius, maybe local governments will start getting on board with it if it turns out to be a push or a win in terms of total cost to services provided. They seem to trend five to ten years behind private business models. But, I think most local governments have such a hard time coming up with cash for all their services in easy economic times, it may be that they continue their trend to online service, but put the cost of accessing it off on the consumers. Which, in terms of my quality of service, probably means roughly the same efficiency as they have now.

    But free access for all, if it happens, will definitely start at the local government level. At least, I’m speaking in terms of the US. If I were an activist in the field, I’d start by lobbying local governments in land rich areas. Hit enough success there, you might reach a national tipping point.

  61. Anonymous says:

    Internet used to make people equals.

    (Or at least you where an equal if yo could write something with resemblance to English ;)

    I started to spend more time on the internet in 1995. At that time gopherspace was still bigger then the web (but not for long), telnet and IRC was still in common use and usenet was a place for (mostly) serious discussions and not thought of as Google Groups. The main reason internet existed was that you could find, and share, a large amount of scientific research papers and raw data, without paying a penny. But there was a lot of people who used the ‘net for other purposes.

    After a while I started to realise that most people I met outside the academic world on the ‘net were either blind or deaf. They must have been a majority of the people who used internet outside work or study. I can only imagine what a paradise internet must have been for handicapped people at that time. On the ‘net their handicaps didn’t exist.

    Then the shit hit the fan. Netscape become popular with all it’s ill-thought extensions. The web had already started to gain ground and now rapidly become popular and developed into a more visual and audible media. The Web was from the very beginning a lot harder to create content for then Gopherspace and today it has developed into something that you either has to be an expert (with a large investment in time and effort) and pay for expensive equipment to use, or you have to be dependent on a lot of ready made tools and services (both for delivering and creating). You can’t be an independent amateur who just like to write and is prepared to spend 30 minutes to set up a server (a gopher server didn’t need much resources, an old Commodore 64 with a modem would do just fine) to get a presence on the ‘net anymore. Suddenly most people stopped putting new content in Gopherspace and within a year it just collapsed. The transitions must have been harder to adapt to for the blind people, because they just started to disappear from the ‘net after Netscape became popular.

    And then came the hordes of AOL-users, carrying their own culture, or lack thereof, developed in their own restricted bubble. They were not part of a DIY culture, but instead passive consumers. The ‘net was already a very open minded and speak out place, sometimes with a rather harsh jargong, but people did their best to communicate with each other; the AOL people was just rude and loudmouthed, competing about who could do worse. They didn’t listen to others and they didn’t care about making what they wrote readable, even less so with a speach synteziser. It was kind of a chock to see people being harrased in discussions on the ‘net. And it didn’t stop at harrasing people of different opinions, but people could also be harrased if they were to be found out as being handicapped, of wrong of nationality (basically, non US) or wrong race.

    Related to Netscape: In the good old days a homepage basically consisted of the text you wanted to read and a link back to the menue and perhaps links to a few related pages (you couldn’t do thing different in Gopherspace and early html also made it hard to do things different). But page layout developed into carry a lot more content. Today I sometimes find it hard to find what I came to a webpage to read, when it’s placed somewhere in between a lot menues, advertisments, ornaments and a lot of other crap. I can only imagine how hard it would be for someone blind or slow minded.

    Today the ‘net has developed into a faster media, making it is easy to distinguish slow thinkers (slow!=stupid) or people with bad motoric skills, they too have lost their place as equals on the ‘net. As more and more things get audible, and nobody bother to make transcriptions, deafs must have a hard time. Now when most laptops have a webcamera, I think it will be increasingly harder for people to not be discriminated by their apperence on the ‘net.

  62. Keir says:

    I really like the third paragraph, I can so easily imagine that.

  63. Halloween Jack says:

    This article really isn’t any news to anyone who’s worked in, or even spent any appreciable time at, almost any public library in the United States*. A couple of my close relatives, who have had spotty employment records, have as far as I know never owned a computer, and all of their access is through the library. Something to think about when the library systems start having to shut down (more) branches due to budget cuts.

    *It’s possible that there are some, somewhere, that don’t have public access to the Internet, but all the ones that I’ve been to, in very big and very small communities, have all had it, although effective access (both in terms of what’s required, i.e. a library card or proof of residency, and simply being able to get on a machine with both a limited number of workstations and the “regulars” who take them up) varies.

  64. Anonymous says:

    why, just why is it so hard for a country that can spend trillions on foreign war ratholes to set up public dormitories, bath houses and web access points? Just what exactly is the problem? Any high school administrator even could handle the logistics.

    Making unemployment as dismal and horrible as possible is part of the plan. They don’t want there to be any visible path forward if you run out of money. As long as homelessness is painful and frightening, people will put up with anything to avoid it.

    As long as you have to pay for everything you use, they can discipline the labor force by managing the money supply. If you could get what you needed in other ways, they’d have to pay you more to keep you at work, and treat you better on the job, and that is not part of the plan.

  65. Anonymous says:

    I’ve been homeless before, and as long as I’m here I might as well mention I always found the use of the term homeless as a noun to be offensive. I don’t mean to single out “We employed some homeless,” since the people saying this probably don’t mean anything by it, but that’s a good example. Homeless is an adjective, people is the noun. “We employed some homeless people,” please.

  66. thequickbrownfox says:

    This is a considerable development in society, you can now have “presence” in the bourgeois public sphere – even if all given socio-economic factors would seem to mitigate against such inclusivity.

  67. J France says:

    American & Welfare are almost mutually exclusive terms, at least what my idea of welfare is, anyway.

    “Conditional pittance” is pretty accurate in describing alot of the world’s unemployment benefits, but it’s taken to new extremes at $59/mnth.

  68. Hawley says:

    “who, like everyone else, use them for civic engagement with politicians, social interaction, job hunting, and entrepreneurial pursuits.”

    what?! they are just browsing porn like everyone else y gllbl dmb ss

  69. LordMarius says:

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  70. jfrancis says:

    This reminds me of the ‘Michelle Obama Soup Kitchen’ photo with the guy in line using a blackberry. Administration political opponents made a big deal of that photo.

  71. Nelson.C says:

    $59 a month? $2 a day? How is anyone supposed to live on that?

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