You want to creep me out, make me play Silent Hill, or watch something like Uzumaki or Ju-On.

Zombies are just too overdone – with far too little variation.

I don’t like that they are partnering with EA (if that is true – I haven’t seen a citation yet) but I would guess they need deep pockets to pit Steam vs XBox game delivery system.

Cherry Darling, I’m just saying.

Looks fun to me. Nothing is scary when you have a chainsaw.

Why are we clamoring for free stuff like it’s our god-given right? Because a lot of people saw what was going on with Team Fortress 2 (LOADS of updates, new maps, new achievements, new weapons, new movies, loads of marketing) and hoped that the same would happen for L4D.

Why are people so annoyed? Because TF2 is a quarter of the price of L4D. People were really expecting a lot of updates. They didn’t materialise. Now they’re peeved that they even paid the $40-50 for L4D.

Instead of updates, Valve comes with L4D2.

I guess the point is that although the cinematics and all that other stuff is great for L4D, it just isn’t as cool a game as TF2 for updates.
Valve (http://store.steampowered.com/stats/) reports about twice as many players online for TF2 as for L4D. Remember that TF2 is ancient, by current game standards (TF2: Oct 2007 L4D: Nov 2008).

Hey, I’m not arguing with the trailer, it looks fantastic. I’d even pay for the game if I didn’t already own L4D1. I’m not getting burned by the no updates again though. Too bad!
Valve is a great company with a good spirit. I think they’ll make things right.

I can’t blame them. The trailer shown above is prerendered. The actual trailers of gameplay have exactly the same engine capability as the last game. It seems as if its just more levels and weapons with no real expansion to the game. Hence, it should be downloadable content.

Perhaps you should try the first game out and then you might understand more the player’s beef with Valve.

One ‘decent’ upgrade later, the multiplayer queue system is still broken. There is no way to prevent “rage quitting” (essentially leaving a full game just because you are mad). AI Bots cannot use or even pick up pipe bombs and molotovs (essential in the game).

Basically players feel that this sequel not only feels completely rushed, but motivated by sales alone. Along with the fact that the programmers are constricted by the XBox and it’s steadily decaying graphics processing power, and maybe you can better understand the problems.

Yeah, that makes sense. It is a bit odd they are already releasing a sequel.

http://playthisthing.com/survival-crisis-z

Toss in rogue government forces, NPC survivor group antagonists, animals you can use for sentry duty, and you have a game that i will play for hours and hours.

also, i somewhat agree that this sounds more like an expansion than a sequel. would be better to play the game from a single executable with additional content. (8 possible characters…multiple campaigns…aww yeah)

^m^

Valve says to trust them on the updates for the first game. I do trust them to update the game, but I also think it won’t be nearly as solid as with TF2.

That said, L4D2 is being published by EA. If it seems like a huge departure from Valve’s tradition of unimpeachable quality, that may be your answer right there.

I’ve heard some speculation that Left 4 Dead 2 will be released along with Portal 2 and Episode 3 in an Orange Box-like product. I think that would restore a lot of good will but it’s purely speculation at this point.

Valve said they were making DLC and mentioned some of the features for the DLC that is now in this “Sequel.”

Wanting cheap stuff is one thing… but this is a case of a company changing their promises for what looks like a cash grab.

We’re waaaaaaiiiiiiitiiiiing….