Hundreds of top British cops defrauded the taxpayer for millions in phony expense racket

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51 Responses to “Hundreds of top British cops defrauded the taxpayer for millions in phony expense racket”

  1. Marchhare says:

    37, FTW.

    A whole playlist showing St. Paul’s finest:

    http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=1B04FFB1D8FEDCBA

  2. zuzu says:

    “It beggars belief that our police, who are supposed to be solving crime, are suspected of fraud on a grand scale.”

    I’m shocked, SHOCKED!

    the problem is in the ethics of draining public funds for personal use.

    Who will watch the watchmen?

  3. Takuan says:

    perhaps there would be more public sympathy for police who committed minor indiscretions if there weren’t quite so many police joyously beating the shit out of innocents and revelling in the stripping of basic civil rights by bad legislation?
    What do you think? Also, stealing a cheap meal is not comparable to stealing a custom-made suit, is it?
    They are rotten, if they are not severely punished and expelled, no cop will merit or deserve any respect from the public that carries them. Why didn’t the honest cops turn in the thieves? And the police have the nerve to demand cooperation from the public?

    Police or gangsters, that’s the choice here.

  4. Telecustard says:

    Just think. These are “top cops”, the elites, the best that Scotland Yard has.

    Kind of makes the term “criminal” meaningless as a distinction, doesn’t it? Because that’s the system of law enforcement as it stands today – A battle between criminals and officially sanctioned, empowered, elite criminals.

    Is anyone really surprised by this?

  5. noen says:

    “Is anyone really surprised by this?”

    It certainly says something about human nature and human society doesn’t it? But what does it say?

    I’d like to draw an analogy. We humans wear masks beneath which competing evolutionary drives squirm and writhe. I think that EvPsych has in a sense lifted up that rock to show what’s underneath. People think that the masks we wear, the social customs and niceties we begrudgingly observe, are a false self, I disagree. I think that is where we are most human.

    Society mirrors the self. We need a better mask so to speak.

  6. Takuan says:

    “Society mirrors the self”? You could live in MY world?

  7. Anonymous says:

    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? No-one, it would seem.

  8. Gilgongo says:

    “Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men.”

    John Emerich Edward Dilbert Acton (actually his name was Dalberg Acton but I couldn’t resist it).

  9. StRevAlex says:

    The sun never sets on the British Empire.

  10. Praline says:

    email-order bespoke tailors ???

    How does this work? Do you measure yourself?

    Or email yourself to the shop?

  11. jphilby says:

    Human nature? Seems to me those tax dollars are paying them to *curb* the excesses of human nature, not to emulate them.

    Off to Australia with them.

  12. Takuan says:

    ? haven’t the Aboriginal people suffered enough?

  13. mdh says:

    “The louder he spoke of his honor, the faster we counted our spoons” –RW Emerson

  14. Anonymous says:

    Wow youre kidding me, so cops can be criminals? Hmm maybe its time to start charging them with assault when they attack innocent people.???

  15. Anonymous says:

    In the meantime a very good friend of mine – a totally law abiding, hard working person who happens to be a pre-op TG woman – has just been stopped, harassed and searched by Police at East Croydon Station, which apart from the emotional trauma, also caused her to miss her train. According to the police, they were doing the stop and search under Section 44 of the anti-terrorism act.

    Just how many transexual terrorists are there walking the streets – is there something they’re not telling us? I guess there must be – otherwise it would be a terrible waste of Police time, that otherwise might have been spent fighting Croydon’s serious street crime problem…

  16. Muppetfeatures says:

    Sigh. We really do get it from all sides, don’t we?

    Then again, we are the nation that produced this woman, so maybe we deserve it.

  17. Muppetfeatures says:

    Erm, not sure why the HTML tag didn’t work, but THIS woman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5t-8xiEFRCY

  18. Anonymous says:

    We need to stop being distracted by the media and notice that the real problem lies with our own government. They are less than fiscally responsible with our tax dollars. Especially when they are on the constant prowl for more sources of our tax dollars.

  19. Anonymous says:

    Crime: is an industry which is “regulated” by police. I use this term because, police and crime go together. Think about this, what would happen if crime went down too much?

  20. DWittSF says:

    Police & Thieves in the streets
    Bilking the nation with their
    phony reimbursements

  21. Nelson.C says:

    I think, “What do you expect?” kind of hits it on the head. Not so much retrospectively, but more what should have been thought when these people were given the expense accounts. Given what a cop should know about human nature, a cop’s boss should know enough to check that the cop’s not going wild with it. It’s a basic management skill, surely?

  22. rwmj says:

    At least it explains why the police declined to prosecute any MPs over the MP expenses scandal …

  23. noen says:

    “You could live in MY world?”

    Is there room in your fridge? Maybe in the lettuce crisper?

  24. Takuan says:

    fridge “box”, please. Yes, Im sure I could accommodate you in the south wing, though the architecture is a bit naff.

  25. sarenmithsarn says:

    Authority abusing its position and no one REALLY fighting back? Shocking.

  26. Inkstain says:

    Thank you to the unpaid, citizen blogger with the Twitter feed that broke this story.

    Oh, wait…

  27. anangbhai says:

    What I’d like to know is how much of the reporting on these scandals was due to the “orwellian” record keeping methods employed after 9/11. I’ve read that due to the financial security measures enacted due to the patriot act more tax evaders were caught than terrorists.
    Not condoning the police state, just saying that I’m perfectly fine with it as long as transparency goes both ways. If anything, it should be public officials lives that should be on record than private citizens since the custodians have more potential for harm.
    This also proves two things: Either Americans are better at hiding their dirty deeds (per diem accounts, false paperwork instead of credit cards, giving money to fake/nonexistent informants) or the British are just better at keeping track of their money. I’m gonna say the former.

  28. Takuan says:

    the term you are looking for is “gangster-farming”.

  29. GuidoDavid says:

    OK, if I accept all those arguments about “human nature”, how come Scandinavians have such a corruption free culture?

    They have corruption, but England looks like a Banana Republic compared to Sweden:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6051220.stm
    Summer house and TV fees. Wow. Amazing crimes. Human Nature? Something is going on there.

    Of course, Venezuela makes England look not like Sweden, but like Utopia.

  30. Anonymous says:

    My Sun headline would be:

    BENT COPPER, GOLD CARD

  31. Anonymous says:

    @34- That’s probably a very deep question. If I had to guess, I’d say that in Scandanavia, they’re inclined to think of their neighbors, coworkers, etc, as their friends, and in England they’re inclined to think of them as their enemies.
    You cooperate with and work for the best interests of your friends; you screw over your enemies whenever you can.

  32. codereduk says:

    What really “beggers belief” is how they found so many places that took American Express.

  33. GuidoDavid says:

    Anonymous: It might be that, but then all those arguments about Human Nature are mere rationalizations made by people who did not even committed the crime!

  34. Takuan says:

    hostile climates breed cooperative societies. Look at the Inuit; they mostly got along, nearly all murders were crimes of passion and the odd sociopath that came along “fell in the sea”. Which isn’t to say those goddammned Swedes didn’t do their share of invading neighbours.

  35. gothicgeek says:

    thatchers children caught with their hands in the cookie jar………

  36. Takuan says:

    Thatcher’s children?
    http://imgur.com/0NfSJ.jpg

  37. PaulR says:

    “It beggars belief that our police, who are supposed to be solving crime, are suspected of fraud on a grand scale.”

    Um, they’re also supposed to lead by example, no?

    (It’s not like the RCMP were ever caught lying, eh?)

  38. Takuan says:

    it’s jest like mumping apples, innit? Only these are really, really BIG apples. Perks really.

  39. ill lich says:

    I’m not apologizing for the cops or the MPs, but I think it’s human nature: if I was in a position with a free credit card account and no oversight I know I would be tempted to charge things not related to business, and find ways to mentally justify it (“This $30 gin-and-tonic IS a business expense. . . I NEED it to unwind after a hard day on the job . . . just like the cash advance I charged so I could have $5 bills to stuff in the stripper’s g-strings!”) And the more you get away with it, the more you will push the limit of what you think is acceptable.

    Seems the real problem here is lack of oversight, or did the person in charge of oversight also have a paid credit card he/she could abuse?

  40. Anonymous says:

    This totally reminds me of that scene in Beverly Hills Cop in which Axel is trying to explain the Ferrari and his custom suits to the boss.

    Deep undercover. Deep, deep, deep undercover.

  41. Faustus says:

    @#takuan

    I was expecting a picture of mark thatcher there, who is more terrifying by far than that dollosaur. At least it didn’t try and start a coup in equatorial guinea…

    Also does anyone read the b3ta newsletter, great headline this week. “APPEAL: JUST £1 CAN BUY ANOTHER TRIPWIRE FOR THATCHER’S HOUSE”

  42. shadowfirebird says:

    Historically the police have **always** been the sort of organisation that, if you gave them an inch, they would take all the rulers you had.

    The job of a government is *not* to make the police’s job easier, but to stop them from behaving like a bunch of power-mad hooligans. In the UK we have completely lost the plot on this.

    I should say that I’m not tarring all officers with the same brush. I’ve met nice policemen.

    I’m just saying that it goes with the job: you give a group of people extra powers and tell them to boss around everyone else, then they will take that a bit too literally. And that’s just *individual* policemen — for the police as an organisation, it’s even more extreme.

    (If you’re skeptical, google “Stamford Prison Experiment”…)

  43. 0xdeadbeef says:

    It’s also human nature that positions of power and authority attract the very people most likely to abuse it.

  44. a_user says:

    Talking of cash for honours I wonder when they’ll start back tracking and get to Thatcher. She aint no lady even if she calls herself one.

  45. EH says:

    illlich@4: that “what did you expect?” logic reads a little distasteful. the problem is in the ethics of draining public funds for personal use.

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