Comments on: Art show fracas in Russia http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 22 May 2013 08:10:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: aalien http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519692 aalien Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519692 And just a minor correction: the show was held in Moscow; Krymsky Val (lit. Crimean Wall) is a street name where CDH (Central Art House) is located. And just a minor correction: the show was held in Moscow; Krymsky Val (lit. Crimean Wall) is a street name where CDH (Central Art House) is located.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519695 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519695 "and the cock ejaculated three times whilst he did deny him" (excerpt from the Dirty Bible) “and the cock ejaculated three times whilst he did deny him”

(excerpt from the Dirty Bible)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519982 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519982 It's probably needless to say, but even to someone with as limited Russian skills as me, this translation leaves a lot to be desired. For instance, in Russian, "cock," "хуй," can be used as a verb for which the closest English approximation is "fuck." That gets confusing though since the verb "еба́ть" is the actual verb for "fuck." As for which is better or worse, well, apparently the Moscow Police have an opinion but I couldn't say. Also, it's important to note the "Crimean Region" refers to "Крымский Вал" a street in Moscow, and not the Semi-Autonomous Republic of Crimea, which is part of Ukraine, a rather different country with a much more relaxed attitude toward making fun of Medvedev. It's rather funny actually that my friend has a shirt that says "Хуй войне!" It’s probably needless to say, but even to someone with as limited Russian skills as me, this translation leaves a lot to be desired.

For instance, in Russian, “cock,” “хуй,” can be used as a verb for which the closest English approximation is “fuck.” That gets confusing though since the verb “еба́ть” is the actual verb for “fuck.” As for which is better or worse, well, apparently the Moscow Police have an opinion but I couldn’t say.

Also, it’s important to note the “Crimean Region” refers to “Крымский Вал” a street in Moscow, and not the Semi-Autonomous Republic of Crimea, which is part of Ukraine, a rather different country with a much more relaxed attitude toward making fun of Medvedev.

It’s rather funny actually that my friend has a shirt that says “Хуй войне!”

]]> By: buddy66 http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519490 buddy66 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519490 It ain't Art, it's hooliganism. Especially the feral cats in restaurants thang. It ain’t Art, it’s hooliganism. Especially the feral cats in restaurants thang.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519494 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519494 Medvedev is a cub? Shirtless pics or it didn't happen. Medvedev is a cub? Shirtless pics or it didn’t happen.

]]> By: marinagalperina http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519753 marinagalperina Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519753 @AALIEN: Thanks for the correction tip. The video is awesome. @AALIEN: Thanks for the correction tip. The video is awesome.

]]> By: Kieran O'Neill http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519768 Kieran O'Neill Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519768 You know, looking at that photo, it's not all that X rated. You can only see nipples on one of the women, and no genitalia are visible. I reckon there's a good chance that nothing was actually happening, either - the shots are a little too posed for people to actually be doing the nasty while getting them just perfect. I'd give it an R for simulated sex, no more. Hmmm ... what's really creepy is that the YouTube video of the incident has been pulled "for terms of use violation." Perhaps YouTube feels it's pornographic? You know, looking at that photo, it’s not all that X rated. You can only see nipples on one of the women, and no genitalia are visible. I reckon there’s a good chance that nothing was actually happening, either – the shots are a little too posed for people to actually be doing the nasty while getting them just perfect.

I’d give it an R for simulated sex, no more.

Hmmm … what’s really creepy is that the YouTube video of the incident has been pulled “for terms of use violation.” Perhaps YouTube feels it’s pornographic?

]]> By: buddy66 http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519521 buddy66 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519521 <i> (for some reason "cock" is less offensive than "fuck" in Russian). </i> What a strange people. (for some reason “cock” is less offensive than “fuck” in Russian).

What a strange people.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-813418 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-813418 According to my Ukranian/Russian (half-ultra-Chasidic, half-old-Bolshevik) lover, 'cock' is actually the foundation of most commonly-used, low-colloquial curses in Russian. 'Sit on cock' is a moderate form of 'fuck you'. It's pretty nasty, in other words- especially since Soviet culture disdained swearing (it seems that it was considered an underclass activity, counter to the cleancut idealised Soviet lifestyle). I'm wondering how much this relates to Putin's photo-op with bears or Russian bear mythos, or ti the politics of ethnicity in modern Russia, Medvedev being Jewish and Armenian- maybe this is an attempt to place him within the bloodthirsty-northman narrative because he's a useful underling? or not? According to my Ukranian/Russian (half-ultra-Chasidic, half-old-Bolshevik) lover, ‘cock’ is actually the foundation of most commonly-used, low-colloquial curses in Russian. ‘Sit on cock’ is a moderate form of ‘fuck you’. It’s pretty nasty, in other words- especially since Soviet culture disdained swearing (it seems that it was considered an underclass activity, counter to the cleancut idealised Soviet lifestyle).

I’m wondering how much this relates to Putin’s photo-op with bears or Russian bear mythos, or ti the politics of ethnicity in modern Russia, Medvedev being Jewish and Armenian- maybe this is an attempt to place him within the bloodthirsty-northman narrative because he’s a useful underling? or not?

]]> By: aalien http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519786 aalien Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519786 @14 No-no-no. These photos are from their, ahem, performance (quite notorious, yeah) from 2008. SOMETHING was actually happening; i'm not sure i could find the video now, but here's some photos: http://kontury.info/photo/92 (NSFW) I mean, everybody in the room knew it was real (or, at least, not staged for the poster). @14 No-no-no. These photos are from their, ahem, performance (quite notorious, yeah) from 2008. SOMETHING was actually happening; i’m not sure i could find the video now, but here’s some photos: http://kontury.info/photo/92 (NSFW)

I mean, everybody in the room knew it was real (or, at least, not staged for the poster).

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]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-813435 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-813435 "Хуй войне!" means, according to the little bit of Russian I've picked up despite the insanely inflected grammar and the TATU Wikipedia page, 'cock to war!', or 'fuck war!' Хуй is apparently a common word for 'dick', which is used similarly in many ways to 'fuck' in English (not like 'motherfucker', it seems, as much as 'fuck this shit', but I'm no native speaker- caveat lector). So, Screw War is perhaps a good translation... Now that is a fine slogan, even for a sensationalist faux-lesbian-electronica band, nu? “Хуй войне!” means, according to the little bit of Russian I’ve picked up despite the insanely inflected grammar and the TATU Wikipedia page, ‘cock to war!’, or ‘fuck war!’ Хуй is apparently a common word for ‘dick’, which is used similarly in many ways to ‘fuck’ in English (not like ‘motherfucker’, it seems, as much as ‘fuck this shit’, but I’m no native speaker- caveat lector). So, Screw War is perhaps a good translation…

Now that is a fine slogan, even for a sensationalist faux-lesbian-electronica band, nu?

]]> By: Cruxx http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519568 Cruxx Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519568 Isn't "cock" less offensive than "fuck" here too? I would like to hang out with these guys, they sound like a lot of fun. Isn’t “cock” less offensive than “fuck” here too?

I would like to hang out with these guys, they sound like a lot of fun.

]]> By: airship http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519618 airship Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519618 I'm too old to consider random obscenity 'irreverent' or 'arty' anymore. They'll eventually grow out of it and learn to say something relevant. Just let 'em blow off some steam. The best reaction to 'art' like this is to yawn, not to arrest. I’m too old to consider random obscenity ‘irreverent’ or ‘arty’ anymore. They’ll eventually grow out of it and learn to say something relevant.

Just let ‘em blow off some steam. The best reaction to ‘art’ like this is to yawn, not to arrest.

]]> By: Boba Fett Diop http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519627 Boba Fett Diop Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519627 Well, of course the state should suppress art that is critical of it or otherwise challenges the establishment. We saw how well that worked the last time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_Art Well, of course the state should suppress art that is critical of it or otherwise challenges the establishment. We saw how well that worked the last time:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_Art

]]> By: dculberson http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519631 dculberson Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519631 I dunno about that, seems like they made a point that someone in power didn't want made. I dunno about that, seems like they made a point that someone in power didn’t want made.

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]]> By: Than Saffel http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519661 Than Saffel Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519661 Thank you for using the word "fracas" in the title. Apparently you're really reading that Simon and Kirby stuff. Thank you for using the word “fracas” in the title. Apparently you’re really reading that Simon and Kirby stuff.

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519666 Brainspore Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519666 @ Buddy66 #3: Last I checked the word "cock" is in the Bible. @ Buddy66 #3:

Last I checked the word “cock” is in the Bible.

]]> By: aalien http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/art-show-fracas-in-r.html#comment-519672 aalien Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519672 Aaaand... VOINA's video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUaJLNonytg (the inprovised punk concert in a courtroom). "We going to shoot a music video titled All Cops Are Bastards". Aaaand… VOINA’s video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUaJLNonytg
(the inprovised punk concert in a courtroom).

“We going to shoot a music video titled All Cops Are Bastards”.

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