Comments on: Rare recording of James Joyce reading; Happy Bloomsday! http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Wed, 19 Jun 2013 14:34:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: PaulR http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-519181 PaulR Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519181 This is great! Thanks. Now, I'll know what voice to hear when I next reread Finnigan's Wake. (I had the rhythm wrong in my head.) Joyce reading Anna Livia: http://www.ubu.com/sound/joyce.html There's lots of other stuff there too. This is great! Thanks.

Now, I’ll know what voice to hear when I next reread Finnigan’s Wake. (I had the rhythm wrong in my head.)

Joyce reading Anna Livia:
http://www.ubu.com/sound/joyce.html

There’s lots of other stuff there too.

]]> By: Ronamo http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-519182 Ronamo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519182 The via link is broken. Anybody know of any Bloomsday walking maps of Dublin for purchase? The via link is broken. Anybody know of any Bloomsday walking maps of Dublin for purchase?

]]> By: Tarmle http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-519219 Tarmle Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519219 The works of James Joyce are still under copyright here in Ireland until 2011. His estate is jealously guarded by his grandson, Stephen Joyce, who delights in making legal threats against academics wishing only to use quotations from Joyce's works and even against those just wanting to read sections from <em>Ulysses</em> aloud on Bloomsday. It is also alleged that he has destroyed his grandfather's personal documents to prevent them from being studied by scholars. <a href="http://tarmle.livejournal.com/90060.html">A couple of examples</a> blogged two years ago. It's possible that the copyright term here lasts until the end of the 70th calendar year since the author's death, so Bloomsday won't be free of this ham-fisted, money-grubbing heir until 2012. If you want a textbook example of why current copyright is broken, Stephen Joyce should be the chapter heading. The works of James Joyce are still under copyright here in Ireland until 2011. His estate is jealously guarded by his grandson, Stephen Joyce, who delights in making legal threats against academics wishing only to use quotations from Joyce’s works and even against those just wanting to read sections from Ulysses aloud on Bloomsday. It is also alleged that he has destroyed his grandfather’s personal documents to prevent them from being studied by scholars.

A couple of examples blogged two years ago.

It’s possible that the copyright term here lasts until the end of the 70th calendar year since the author’s death, so Bloomsday won’t be free of this ham-fisted, money-grubbing heir until 2012.

If you want a textbook example of why current copyright is broken, Stephen Joyce should be the chapter heading.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-519994 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519994 @fredh & paulr It's Finnegans Wake, not Finnegan's Wake. Joyce wanted even the title to have a couple of readings... @fredh & paulr

It’s Finnegans Wake, not Finnegan’s Wake. Joyce wanted even the title to have a couple of readings…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-519779 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519779 Always wondered if Finnegans Wake would make a lot more sense listened to rather than read. Always wondered if Finnegans Wake would make a lot more sense listened to rather than read.

]]> By: trope http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-519798 trope Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519798 No, not so rare. A couple reissues, one I own and one easily found. http://www.themodernword.com/Joyce/audio_1.html Sub Rosa recordings did a reissue of the audio with Eolian Episode from Ulysses. And googling that just now, it seems it's on Amazon MP3 downloads as well. So opposite of rare? No, not so rare. A couple reissues, one I own and one easily found.

http://www.themodernword.com/Joyce/audio_1.html

Sub Rosa recordings did a reissue of the audio with Eolian Episode from Ulysses. And googling that just now, it seems it’s on Amazon MP3 downloads as well. So opposite of rare?

]]> By: Fred H http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-519810 Fred H Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519810 Yeah, I always pick up FINNEGAN'S, and try to stumble through it. It's tough even with the Joseph Campbell key. Maybe the rhythm of his voice will will help. Yeah, I always pick up FINNEGAN’S, and try to stumble through it. It’s tough even with the Joseph Campbell key. Maybe the rhythm of his voice will will help.

]]> By: markfrei http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-519299 markfrei Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519299 It's not that rare is it? I mean I bought it as an LP when I was in High School. If you could buy it at midwestern record stores it can't be all that exotic, can it? Now my album of Bryon Gysin reading might be another matter.... It’s not that rare is it? I mean I bought it as an LP when I was in High School. If you could buy it at midwestern record stores it can’t be all that exotic, can it?

Now my album of Bryon Gysin reading might be another matter….

]]> By: seanachie http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-519899 seanachie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519899 As a Sligo man who lived in Dublin for many years, and who reveres Joyce, I suspect his accent on those recordings was adapted to suit the text. I've done it myself reading aloud books from elsewhere in Ireland, and, considering Finnegans Wake is set in Chapelizod (West County Dublin and at the time practically in the countryside), Joyce had a different musicality in mind. I'm pretty sure Joyce had a similar accent to Beckett (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0xwE5QNPd0)) and possibly even posher. Dubliners who inherit their provincial parents' accents (especially after attending schools such as Belvedere and Clongowes) are as common as hen's teeth... As a Sligo man who lived in Dublin for many years, and who reveres Joyce, I suspect his accent on those recordings was adapted to suit the text. I’ve done it myself reading aloud books from elsewhere in Ireland, and, considering Finnegans Wake is set in Chapelizod (West County Dublin and at the time practically in the countryside), Joyce had a different musicality in mind. I’m pretty sure Joyce had a similar accent to Beckett (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0xwE5QNPd0)) and possibly even posher. Dubliners who inherit their provincial parents’ accents (especially after attending schools such as Belvedere and Clongowes) are as common as hen’s teeth…

]]> By: PaulR http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-520947 PaulR Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-520947 Thanks, er..., somebody. I listed to the recording I linked to yesterday. It's the same text, but NOT de-scratch-/pop-/click-ified. It's much better! Thanks, er…, somebody.

I listed to the recording I linked to yesterday.

It’s the same text, but NOT de-scratch-/pop-/click-ified.

It’s much better!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-519158 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519158 This is Joyce reading the Anna Livia Plurabelle section of Finnegans Wake. It's a chattering dialogue between two washer women who as night falls become a tree and a stone (based on actual events). Joyce called it an attempt to subordinate words to the rhythm of water, also the accent he's putting on is supposed to be working class dub washer woman. I actually put a flash animation together for college using that piece of audio. It's here if anybody's interested: http://simonbursell.com/, just skip to the main menu, click on the first option and fast forward through the introduction. This is Joyce reading the Anna Livia Plurabelle section of Finnegans Wake. It’s a chattering dialogue between two washer women who as night falls become a tree and a stone (based on actual events). Joyce called it an attempt to subordinate words to the rhythm of water, also the accent he’s putting on is supposed to be working class dub washer woman.

I actually put a flash animation together for college using that piece of audio. It’s here if anybody’s interested: http://simonbursell.com/, just skip to the main menu, click on the first option and fast forward through the introduction.

]]> By: thequickbrownfox http://boingboing.net/2009/06/16/rare-recording-of-ja.html#comment-519159 thequickbrownfox Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-519159 Great to hear this, but that's Finnegans Wake, to be sure. Great to hear this, but that’s Finnegans Wake, to be sure.

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