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	<title>Comments on: Rushkoff on Apple fanboy rage at Steve Jobs for having the audacity to have had a liver&#160;transplant</title>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523783</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corporations don&#039;t care about me and I don&#039;t care about them.  Doug, are you going to be thrashing about if the guy who helped lead the company that manufactures your alarm clock gets a spot of the cancer?  I didn&#039;t think so.

Also, I agree with udders here that you really didn&#039;t do a good job of picking out true &quot;fanboys&quot;.  Try MacFixit, MacWorld, etc. instead of Fortune, Bloomberg or whatever.

This post reminds me of all those people that go around saying there&#039;s a ton of Mac people that keep saying their Macs are &quot;invulnerable&quot;.  I&#039;ve been waiting for years to see this mythic beast.

Please, if you are a Mac user that thinks your machine is invulnerable to all security threats... please speak up here.  It would be amazing to finally meet one of you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corporations don&#8217;t care about me and I don&#8217;t care about them.  Doug, are you going to be thrashing about if the guy who helped lead the company that manufactures your alarm clock gets a spot of the cancer?  I didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Also, I agree with udders here that you really didn&#8217;t do a good job of picking out true &#8220;fanboys&#8221;.  Try MacFixit, MacWorld, etc. instead of Fortune, Bloomberg or whatever.</p>
<p>This post reminds me of all those people that go around saying there&#8217;s a ton of Mac people that keep saying their Macs are &#8220;invulnerable&#8221;.  I&#8217;ve been waiting for years to see this mythic beast.</p>
<p>Please, if you are a Mac user that thinks your machine is invulnerable to all security threats&#8230; please speak up here.  It would be amazing to finally meet one of you.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523786</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#20 POSTED BY CRYPTIQUE

You sound angry and frustrated... maybe you should get a mac?</description>
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<p>You sound angry and frustrated&#8230; maybe you should get a mac?</p>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523795</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And you know what? WinXP machines work really, really well. I haven&#039;t had an OS crash in years, and the only system-level problems I ever seem to have are in the hardware, not the OS.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d like to meet these mythical people who have WinXP installs that don&#039;t suffer the classic slow but inevitable degradation over time (like fish going bad) that every Windows install ever has had.

Plus, Windows &lt;i&gt;requires&lt;/i&gt; anti-malware software such as Kaspersky (KIS) just so it&#039;s not assimilated into a botnet swarm within hours of connecting to the Internet.


I like OSX because it&#039;s an easy to use and stable UNIX.  I like Mac laptops because they&#039;re easy to repair (thanks to online guides such as those by &lt;a href=&quot;http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/06/04/ifixit-launches-gadg.html&quot;&gt;iFixIt&lt;/a&gt;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And you know what? WinXP machines work really, really well. I haven&#8217;t had an OS crash in years, and the only system-level problems I ever seem to have are in the hardware, not the OS.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d like to meet these mythical people who have WinXP installs that don&#8217;t suffer the classic slow but inevitable degradation over time (like fish going bad) that every Windows install ever has had.</p>
<p>Plus, Windows <i>requires</i> anti-malware software such as Kaspersky (KIS) just so it&#8217;s not assimilated into a botnet swarm within hours of connecting to the Internet.</p>
<p>I like OSX because it&#8217;s an easy to use and stable UNIX.  I like Mac laptops because they&#8217;re easy to repair (thanks to online guides such as those by <a href="http://gadgets.boingboing.net/2009/06/04/ifixit-launches-gadg.html">iFixIt</a>.)</p>
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		<title>By: Forkboy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-524312</link>
		<dc:creator>Forkboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@25

OsX *is* UNIX. It is UNIX certified just like AIX or Solaris.</description>
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<p>OsX *is* UNIX. It is UNIX certified just like AIX or Solaris.</p>
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		<title>By: TheCrawNotTheCraw</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-524075</link>
		<dc:creator>TheCrawNotTheCraw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@15

&quot;No company is so defined by one man and for the most part Ceos are constantly being replaced but it will be impossible to find a brilliant mind or an ego the size of Jobs.&quot;

Unless you drive a whole 22 miles from Cupertino to Redwood Shores and introduce yourself to Larry Ellison, jrkwd. 
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<p>&#8220;No company is so defined by one man and for the most part Ceos are constantly being replaced but it will be impossible to find a brilliant mind or an ego the size of Jobs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unless you drive a whole 22 miles from Cupertino to Redwood Shores and introduce yourself to Larry Ellison, jrkwd. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523827</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zu, OSX is not a UNIX.  It shares some code with several Unices as well as several other OSes.

Linux and OSX are much like UNIX, and more or less inspired by UNIX, but calling OSX &quot;an easy to use and stable UNIX&quot; is like calling a giraffe &quot;a very long necked spotty horse&quot;.

VMS was just as POSIX-compliant as XNU/Darwin is, incidentally, and nobody considers VMS with DECwindows to be a unix, although I am sure most people would find them indistinguishable.

Personally, for a desktop, I prefer OSX to any true UNIX.  I prefer linux to OSX, but that&#039;s probably because I dumpster-dive most of my hardware.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zu, OSX is not a UNIX.  It shares some code with several Unices as well as several other OSes.</p>
<p>Linux and OSX are much like UNIX, and more or less inspired by UNIX, but calling OSX &#8220;an easy to use and stable UNIX&#8221; is like calling a giraffe &#8220;a very long necked spotty horse&#8221;.</p>
<p>VMS was just as POSIX-compliant as XNU/Darwin is, incidentally, and nobody considers VMS with DECwindows to be a unix, although I am sure most people would find them indistinguishable.</p>
<p>Personally, for a desktop, I prefer OSX to any true UNIX.  I prefer linux to OSX, but that&#8217;s probably because I dumpster-dive most of my hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523837</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are the first responses to the liver transplant story at macrumors.com:
1) Let&#039;s hope he does come back soon. I hope he feels better. *crosses fingers* 
2) Hope he gets better. Take care SJ.
3) These stories are always really sad. 
4) So thats what caused the bump in the stock today...
5) The good news is he&#039;s getting treatment, and he has the best money can buy. Get well soon, Steve!
6)pretty amazing that this was kept under wraps for 2 months...
7)Well, as long as he&#039;ll be back, awesome! Phil, while being a nice guy and all... damn he&#039;s a horribly boring presenter!
8)wow, that&#039;s a shock. Can&#039;t believe they were able to keep this a secret.
9)holy cow....where did that come from? I hope he is doing much better now.

I don&#039;t really see the self-centered anger alluded to in this story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the first responses to the liver transplant story at macrumors.com:<br />
1) Let&#8217;s hope he does come back soon. I hope he feels better. *crosses fingers*<br />
2) Hope he gets better. Take care SJ.<br />
3) These stories are always really sad.<br />
4) So thats what caused the bump in the stock today&#8230;<br />
5) The good news is he&#8217;s getting treatment, and he has the best money can buy. Get well soon, Steve!<br />
6)pretty amazing that this was kept under wraps for 2 months&#8230;<br />
7)Well, as long as he&#8217;ll be back, awesome! Phil, while being a nice guy and all&#8230; damn he&#8217;s a horribly boring presenter!<br />
8)wow, that&#8217;s a shock. Can&#8217;t believe they were able to keep this a secret.<br />
9)holy cow&#8230;.where did that come from? I hope he is doing much better now.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really see the self-centered anger alluded to in this story.</p>
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		<title>By: phisrow</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523597</link>
		<dc:creator>phisrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a real kick in the irony.</description>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523854</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zuzu,

I&#039;ve always had Windows, currently XP.  I&#039;ve managed to keep each computer that I&#039;ve had for six years with no crises. And, as is obvious, I work online and use my computer all day every day, including checking out all the suspicious links that we get through the comment system. I find Windows easier to use than Mac, which I think is purely a matter of personal workstyle. It&#039;s the user who screws up a computer, not the OS. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zuzu,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always had Windows, currently XP.  I&#8217;ve managed to keep each computer that I&#8217;ve had for six years with no crises. And, as is obvious, I work online and use my computer all day every day, including checking out all the suspicious links that we get through the comment system. I find Windows easier to use than Mac, which I think is purely a matter of personal workstyle. It&#8217;s the user who screws up a computer, not the OS. </p>
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		<title>By: tboy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-524111</link>
		<dc:creator>tboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Factual accuracies or inaccuracies aside -- is it true, is it not true, who cares? -- reading this article gave me a perverse thrill, akin to some dark and vicious joy.

The responses from the Mac fans have been delightful as well, each confused, baffled and occasionally angry response being like a slice of dark chocolate for the soul.

Oooh, wank harder for me Mac fans, I&#039;m almost there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Factual accuracies or inaccuracies aside &#8212; is it true, is it not true, who cares? &#8212; reading this article gave me a perverse thrill, akin to some dark and vicious joy.</p>
<p>The responses from the Mac fans have been delightful as well, each confused, baffled and occasionally angry response being like a slice of dark chocolate for the soul.</p>
<p>Oooh, wank harder for me Mac fans, I&#8217;m almost there.</p>
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		<title>By: wylkyn</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523612</link>
		<dc:creator>wylkyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a huge fan of the Apple cult myself, but the evidence this guy is using for his assertion is gleaned from a few online posts?  Is he new to the Internet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a huge fan of the Apple cult myself, but the evidence this guy is using for his assertion is gleaned from a few online posts?  Is he new to the Internet?</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523871</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve kept Windows XP running for years.  But I do need to repair it every other week.  Usually, it&#039;s just new security software or a system upgrade.  But it&#039;s every other week and some of them hang while installing requiring a reboot and reinstall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve kept Windows XP running for years.  But I do need to repair it every other week.  Usually, it&#8217;s just new security software or a system upgrade.  But it&#8217;s every other week and some of them hang while installing requiring a reboot and reinstall.</p>
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		<title>By: CrewBaby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523882</link>
		<dc:creator>CrewBaby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in IT, as a network/desktop admin, and the easiest way to spot my fellow administrators?  Not one of us owns a Mac.  If one of the Macs we support breaks down, we draw straws to see which poor sucker has to go try to make it work again; six times out of ten, if it&#039;s not something tiny, it has to be sent back to the company for repair.  Closed system, indeed.  Try getting a driver for a multifunction office printer to work consistently on a Mac.  It&#039;s hideous.

I&#039;ll recommend Macs to people who are very, very computer illiterate and can&#039;t perform even the most basic configurations, virus protection or installations, sure.  They&#039;re great for that section of the population, since they&#039;re close to idiot-proof.  But god forbid you want to get in there and mess around, or need to fix something that&#039;s broken.  It&#039;s like trying to change the oil on a car that&#039;s had its hood welded shut.  

On the other hand, I&#039;ve had nothing but good experiences with XP (Vista is a different story) and actually enjoy working with the OS.

I think Rushkoff made some excellent points, which are illustrated in realtime every day at my job.  The products have lovely aesthetics, are very expensive, and are marketed as status symbols more than functioning tools.  It&#039;s a cult of personality, and when the leader of the cult wavers, it&#039;s no surprise that the followers get uneasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in IT, as a network/desktop admin, and the easiest way to spot my fellow administrators?  Not one of us owns a Mac.  If one of the Macs we support breaks down, we draw straws to see which poor sucker has to go try to make it work again; six times out of ten, if it&#8217;s not something tiny, it has to be sent back to the company for repair.  Closed system, indeed.  Try getting a driver for a multifunction office printer to work consistently on a Mac.  It&#8217;s hideous.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll recommend Macs to people who are very, very computer illiterate and can&#8217;t perform even the most basic configurations, virus protection or installations, sure.  They&#8217;re great for that section of the population, since they&#8217;re close to idiot-proof.  But god forbid you want to get in there and mess around, or need to fix something that&#8217;s broken.  It&#8217;s like trying to change the oil on a car that&#8217;s had its hood welded shut.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;ve had nothing but good experiences with XP (Vista is a different story) and actually enjoy working with the OS.</p>
<p>I think Rushkoff made some excellent points, which are illustrated in realtime every day at my job.  The products have lovely aesthetics, are very expensive, and are marketed as status symbols more than functioning tools.  It&#8217;s a cult of personality, and when the leader of the cult wavers, it&#8217;s no surprise that the followers get uneasy.</p>
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		<title>By: mackenzi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523883</link>
		<dc:creator>mackenzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are spirits in the material. There are spirits in the machine. Insert money into floppy disk slot.</description>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523887</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May Mr. Jobs have a speedy recovery!

Judging from Mr. David Crosby&#039;s case, and others,  people can keep ticking a long time after having this procedure. According to this link , it&#039;s at about 58% survival after fifteen years - not bad at all for a major organ transplant. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver_transplant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May Mr. Jobs have a speedy recovery!</p>
<p>Judging from Mr. David Crosby&#8217;s case, and others,  people can keep ticking a long time after having this procedure. According to this link , it&#8217;s at about 58% survival after fifteen years &#8211; not bad at all for a major organ transplant. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver_transplant" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver_transplant</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daemon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523636</link>
		<dc:creator>Daemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to be fairly in character for the iRobots to act like this.</description>
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		<title>By: zuzu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523642</link>
		<dc:creator>zuzu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stop being so selfish and think about &lt;i&gt;me!&lt;/i&gt;&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stop being so selfish and think about <i>me!</i>&#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523643</link>
		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve&#039;s only mistake was surviving the crucifiction.

Get well Steve. </description>
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		<title>By: Rob Beschizza</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523657</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Beschizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rushkoff&#039;s heart is in the right place, but his piece repeatedly reveals that his interest in the subject (and his familiary with it) is quite shallow. A trivial but illustrative example: he calls it Apple Computer Inc.., but it changed its name to Apple Incorpoated years ago.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rushkoff&#8217;s heart is in the right place, but his piece repeatedly reveals that his interest in the subject (and his familiary with it) is quite shallow. A trivial but illustrative example: he calls it Apple Computer Inc.., but it changed its name to Apple Incorpoated years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: samu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523916</link>
		<dc:creator>samu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OS war on BB?!

The portrayal of OS X as exclusively for computer illiterates is flawed. There are extensive geeky nether-regions to be explored in AppleScript and the Unix dungeons which lurk below. 

(Anonymous #25, Leopard is a certified Unix when running on Intel. )

I have loved every OS I&#039;ve tried this century. XP is great, stable and wonderfully tweakable; the Linuxes offer a magnificent buffet of perverse delights; Windows 7 is shiny and exciting. OS X is my favourite, but the best thing of all is this: I don&#039;t have to pick one. 

As things have stood for the last several years, none of the three major platforms suck. Why some people display such a deep commitment to pretending otherwise, I have no idea. But then, I use a Mac, so I&#039;m obviously not very bright. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OS war on BB?!</p>
<p>The portrayal of OS X as exclusively for computer illiterates is flawed. There are extensive geeky nether-regions to be explored in AppleScript and the Unix dungeons which lurk below. </p>
<p>(Anonymous #25, Leopard is a certified Unix when running on Intel. )</p>
<p>I have loved every OS I&#8217;ve tried this century. XP is great, stable and wonderfully tweakable; the Linuxes offer a magnificent buffet of perverse delights; Windows 7 is shiny and exciting. OS X is my favourite, but the best thing of all is this: I don&#8217;t have to pick one. </p>
<p>As things have stood for the last several years, none of the three major platforms suck. Why some people display such a deep commitment to pretending otherwise, I have no idea. But then, I use a Mac, so I&#8217;m obviously not very bright. </p>
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		<title>By: piminnowcheez</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523662</link>
		<dc:creator>piminnowcheez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh.  It would be fair to call me an Apple fanboy, if you like throwing around such names, and I consume a fair amount of Apple-related media (news/rumors sites, podcasts, etc) and I haven&#039;t picked up a whiff of this attitude Rushkoff is ranting about.

Maybe the problem is that he&#039;s looking for &quot;fanboys&quot; at places like Fortune and Bloomberg, certainly not where *I&#039;d* go to find the &quot;Apple community.&quot;  People concerned with Apple&#039;s stock price and people who admire Apple&#039;s products are not identical groups.  

But I&#039;d agree that the people he quotes in this peculiar essay do, indeed, sound like cretins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh.  It would be fair to call me an Apple fanboy, if you like throwing around such names, and I consume a fair amount of Apple-related media (news/rumors sites, podcasts, etc) and I haven&#8217;t picked up a whiff of this attitude Rushkoff is ranting about.</p>
<p>Maybe the problem is that he&#8217;s looking for &#8220;fanboys&#8221; at places like Fortune and Bloomberg, certainly not where *I&#8217;d* go to find the &#8220;Apple community.&#8221;  People concerned with Apple&#8217;s stock price and people who admire Apple&#8217;s products are not identical groups.  </p>
<p>But I&#8217;d agree that the people he quotes in this peculiar essay do, indeed, sound like cretins.</p>
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		<title>By: Halloween Jack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523671</link>
		<dc:creator>Halloween Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rushkoff&#039;s thesis--&quot;Steve Jobs&#039; Apple turned computer users from fellow hackers into private, cultish consumers&quot;--is based on so many oversimplifications and errors that it&#039;s difficult to pick out the worst one, but this will do:

&lt;blockquote&gt;As the PC proved popular with consumers and businesses, it was actually Microsoft that sought to develop a computer-literate user capable of issuing the commands that make a computer operate, while Apple worked toward the simplified world of icons, metaphors, and clicking. Users didn&#039;t know how any of it worked; Steve just made it so.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Stone the motherfucking crows, he&#039;s praising MSDOS. Never mind that the Apple ][ had a command-line interface, or that MS rolled out Windows just as soon as they could bolt it onto MSDOS. Oh, and in Doug&#039;s world, the endless hassle of getting Windows to talk to devices was actually a &lt;i&gt;virtue&lt;/i&gt;. Honestly, this is the weirdest, most-Bizarro-world thing that I&#039;ve seen from a BB guest blogger since Rudy Rucker&#039;s neck wrinkle rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rushkoff&#8217;s thesis&#8211;&#8221;Steve Jobs&#8217; Apple turned computer users from fellow hackers into private, cultish consumers&#8221;&#8211;is based on so many oversimplifications and errors that it&#8217;s difficult to pick out the worst one, but this will do:</p>
<blockquote><p>As the PC proved popular with consumers and businesses, it was actually Microsoft that sought to develop a computer-literate user capable of issuing the commands that make a computer operate, while Apple worked toward the simplified world of icons, metaphors, and clicking. Users didn&#8217;t know how any of it worked; Steve just made it so.</p></blockquote>
<p>Stone the motherfucking crows, he&#8217;s praising MSDOS. Never mind that the Apple ][ had a command-line interface, or that MS rolled out Windows just as soon as they could bolt it onto MSDOS. Oh, and in Doug&#8217;s world, the endless hassle of getting Windows to talk to devices was actually a <i>virtue</i>. Honestly, this is the weirdest, most-Bizarro-world thing that I&#8217;ve seen from a BB guest blogger since Rudy Rucker&#8217;s neck wrinkle rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a huge list of people waiting for liver transplants. This is what&#039;s known as a &quot;David Crosby Manuever&quot;, getting up on the list because of high profile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a huge list of people waiting for liver transplants. This is what&#8217;s known as a &#8220;David Crosby Manuever&#8221;, getting up on the list because of high profile.</p>
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		<title>By: harpdevil</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523684</link>
		<dc:creator>harpdevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am disappointed in all of those people, that is not the community we know and love, I am not an Apple fanboy (&quot;yes you are&quot;) that would defend the company with my last breath, but I do enjoy the spirit and excitement usually found in creative people. Most of whom happen to also enjoy and get excited about Apple. But THESE guys, damn, they sound like a rabble of Xbox users.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am disappointed in all of those people, that is not the community we know and love, I am not an Apple fanboy (&#8220;yes you are&#8221;) that would defend the company with my last breath, but I do enjoy the spirit and excitement usually found in creative people. Most of whom happen to also enjoy and get excited about Apple. But THESE guys, damn, they sound like a rabble of Xbox users.</p>
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		<title>By: Forkboy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523692</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw comments like that in the financial media, but I&#039;ve yet so see an Apple &quot;fanboy&quot; be so crass. And certainly not leading Apple bloggers (like Gruber or TUAW.) Maybe Rushkoff could quote his sources or would that get in the way of a nice strawman argument ?

Barlow: &quot;Sideshow Bob, councilman Les Whinen says that you&#039;re not experienced enough to be mayor.  Sir, what do you have to say about that?&quot;
Bob: &quot;I&#039;d say that Les Whinen ought to do more thinking and less whining!&quot;
  [audience laughs and claps]
Lisa: &quot;There&#039;s no councilman Les Whinen.&quot;
Bart: &quot;[chuckling] Good line, though.&quot;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw comments like that in the financial media, but I&#8217;ve yet so see an Apple &#8220;fanboy&#8221; be so crass. And certainly not leading Apple bloggers (like Gruber or TUAW.) Maybe Rushkoff could quote his sources or would that get in the way of a nice strawman argument ?</p>
<p>Barlow: &#8220;Sideshow Bob, councilman Les Whinen says that you&#8217;re not experienced enough to be mayor.  Sir, what do you have to say about that?&#8221;<br />
Bob: &#8220;I&#8217;d say that Les Whinen ought to do more thinking and less whining!&#8221;<br />
  [audience laughs and claps]<br />
Lisa: &#8220;There&#8217;s no councilman Les Whinen.&#8221;<br />
Bart: &#8220;[chuckling] Good line, though.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: piminnowcheez</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523693</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read the whole thing and that is really a baffling piece.  I like much of what I&#039;ve seen of Rushkoff&#039;s, and I basically agree with his premise at least so far as it&#039;s ugly and pointless for people to be discussing Jobs as a capital asset while he&#039;s trying to recover his health.

But! Rushkoff&#039;s historical analysis is mostly fantasy and the whole piece jam-packed with mean-spirited and unnecessary attributional insults: 

&quot;But Apple&#039;s products and policies have always been biased toward childish, whiny, and self-centered behavior&quot;

&quot;Steve Jobs&#039; personality more than compensated for any fear of corporate fascism. &quot;

&quot;Jobs&#039; narcissistic personality disorder&quot;

What is the point of all this?  And why would I want to see it on the front of BB?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read the whole thing and that is really a baffling piece.  I like much of what I&#8217;ve seen of Rushkoff&#8217;s, and I basically agree with his premise at least so far as it&#8217;s ugly and pointless for people to be discussing Jobs as a capital asset while he&#8217;s trying to recover his health.</p>
<p>But! Rushkoff&#8217;s historical analysis is mostly fantasy and the whole piece jam-packed with mean-spirited and unnecessary attributional insults: </p>
<p>&#8220;But Apple&#8217;s products and policies have always been biased toward childish, whiny, and self-centered behavior&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Steve Jobs&#8217; personality more than compensated for any fear of corporate fascism. &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Jobs&#8217; narcissistic personality disorder&#8221;</p>
<p>What is the point of all this?  And why would I want to see it on the front of BB?</p>
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		<title>By: rushkoff</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/06/22/rushkoff-on-apple-fa.html#comment-523698</link>
		<dc:creator>rushkoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@6 A trivial but illustrative example: he calls it Apple Computer Inc.., but it changed its name to Apple Incorpoated years ago.


That&#039;s a particular funny one, since I had Apple Inc in the piece I turned in and the copyeditor changed it to Apple Computers Inc! They must be using an old style guide. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@6 A trivial but illustrative example: he calls it Apple Computer Inc.., but it changed its name to Apple Incorpoated years ago.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a particular funny one, since I had Apple Inc in the piece I turned in and the copyeditor changed it to Apple Computers Inc! They must be using an old style guide. </p>
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		<title>By: bmcraec</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, saw a tweet convo yesterday, RT&#039;d by Brent Spiner: 

You know, @rocky69rhodes, if you&#039;re going to wish death on someone (hardly ever a good idea) I&#039;m sure there are better candidates.
2:30 PM Jun 20th from web 


RT @rocky69rhodes hope the bastard dies he shldn&#039;t b able 2 get a liver when others r dying because the wait is so long-Wow. And I&#039;m angry?
2:24 PM Jun 20th from web 


Congratulations to Steve Jobs! Live long and...well, I guess I don&#039;t need to say that part.
12:04 PM Jun 20th from web</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, saw a tweet convo yesterday, RT&#8217;d by Brent Spiner: </p>
<p>You know, @rocky69rhodes, if you&#8217;re going to wish death on someone (hardly ever a good idea) I&#8217;m sure there are better candidates.<br />
2:30 PM Jun 20th from web </p>
<p>RT @rocky69rhodes hope the bastard dies he shldn&#8217;t b able 2 get a liver when others r dying because the wait is so long-Wow. And I&#8217;m angry?<br />
2:24 PM Jun 20th from web </p>
<p>Congratulations to Steve Jobs! Live long and&#8230;well, I guess I don&#8217;t need to say that part.<br />
12:04 PM Jun 20th from web</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE #9:

Part of the reason the transplant was done here in Tennessee is that we have one of (if not _the_) shortest waiting lists in the US. We also have two of the top liver transplant teams in the world at Vanderbilt and Methodist in Memphis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE #9:</p>
<p>Part of the reason the transplant was done here in Tennessee is that we have one of (if not _the_) shortest waiting lists in the US. We also have two of the top liver transplant teams in the world at Vanderbilt and Methodist in Memphis.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are 2 points that are so crucial since we are all neck deep in stocks and future profits of companies.

1. Apple Inc is Steve and the two have become inseparable. 

2. This leads to finance guys worrying about the stock value and fans worrying about products in a post Jobs world !!

No company is so defined by one man and for the most part Ceos are constantly being replaced but it will be impossible to find a brilliant mind or an ego the size of Jobs. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are 2 points that are so crucial since we are all neck deep in stocks and future profits of companies.</p>
<p>1. Apple Inc is Steve and the two have become inseparable. </p>
<p>2. This leads to finance guys worrying about the stock value and fans worrying about products in a post Jobs world !!</p>
<p>No company is so defined by one man and for the most part Ceos are constantly being replaced but it will be impossible to find a brilliant mind or an ego the size of Jobs. </p>
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