Comments on: Roman Cat Sanctuary http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 07:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: hijukal http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528906 hijukal Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528906 I was there a couple of years ago and can definitely attest to the smell. It was high summer but a short downpour had caught us. I can't recall whether we found the place by accident or on a map proclaiming it as ruins, but I do remember we were surprised at the number of cats in the ruins. The smell didn't reach a few blocks away but standing on the edge it was certainly pungent. We only realised it was a sanctuary after looking around for a few minutes as the information on the sanctuary is on one side in a small corner. This is definitely a very quirky Italian thing, using two-thousand-year old ruins for homeless cats! I couldn't imagine many other countries doing such a thing. I was there a couple of years ago and can definitely attest to the smell. It was high summer but a short downpour had caught us.

I can’t recall whether we found the place by accident or on a map proclaiming it as ruins, but I do remember we were surprised at the number of cats in the ruins.

The smell didn’t reach a few blocks away but standing on the edge it was certainly pungent. We only realised it was a sanctuary after looking around for a few minutes as the information on the sanctuary is on one side in a small corner. This is definitely a very quirky Italian thing, using two-thousand-year old ruins for homeless cats! I couldn’t imagine many other countries doing such a thing.

]]> By: dargaud http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528908 dargaud Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528908 There's a bit more to it than this. A couple years ago there was a genetic study of those cats and it was determined that the population was a lot more ancient than just saying 'runaway cats from bad homes'. There are many abandoned places in Rome, some quite large (like the Cafarella park), and they were many more until very recently (Rome started to develop as a big city less than a century ago). In those areas, feral cats have been flourishing since the fall of the roman empire. The small Torre Argentina is but a small example. There’s a bit more to it than this. A couple years ago there was a genetic study of those cats and it was determined that the population was a lot more ancient than just saying ‘runaway cats from bad homes’. There are many abandoned places in Rome, some quite large (like the Cafarella park), and they were many more until very recently (Rome started to develop as a big city less than a century ago). In those areas, feral cats have been flourishing since the fall of the roman empire. The small Torre Argentina is but a small example.

]]> By: wispsmoke http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528667 wispsmoke Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528667 I was there a few years ago, staring at a bunch of cats lazing around where they killed Caesar. A fitting monument to the Romans. I was there a few years ago, staring at a bunch of cats lazing around where they killed Caesar. A fitting monument to the Romans.

]]> By: sjef http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528672 sjef Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528672 A friend of mine recorded a short documentary film about this place a while ago, you can watch it online here: <a href='http://www.studiodonbe.com/main.php?work=film/piazza%20dei%20gatti/Piazza%20dei%20Gatti_01.flv'>Piazza dei Gatti</a> English & Italian spoken, the Italian parts are subbed. A friend of mine recorded a short documentary film about this place a while ago, you can watch it online here:

Piazza dei Gatti

English & Italian spoken, the Italian parts are subbed.

]]> By: SamSam http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528674 SamSam Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528674 That's where we got out first cat. :) That’s where we got out first cat. :)

]]> By: SamSam http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528675 SamSam Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528675 typo... "out" = "our" typo… “out” = “our”

]]> By: PaulR http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528679 PaulR Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528679 If you're in Ottawa, say for the Canada Day celebrations July 1st, go see Snowball, Brunette, Ti-gris, Blackie, Fluffy, Brownie, Bébé, Spot, Max, and Bugsy at the Parliament Hill <A HREF="http://www.collineduparlement-parliamenthill.gc.ca/histoire-history/terrains-grounds/snctr-snctry-eng.html">Cat Sanctuary</A>. From the Peace Tower at the centre of the House of Commons, go West about 110M. More here: http://www.synapse.net/kgerken/CatsBlog.HTM If you’re in Ottawa, say for the Canada Day celebrations July 1st, go see Snowball, Brunette, Ti-gris, Blackie, Fluffy, Brownie, Bébé, Spot, Max, and Bugsy at the Parliament Hill Cat Sanctuary. From the Peace Tower at the centre of the House of Commons, go West about 110M.

More here: http://www.synapse.net/kgerken/CatsBlog.HTM

]]> By: Tomdog http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528686 Tomdog Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528686 I was there in May of 2006 and you can smell the cat feces a block away. I can't imagine the stench in August. I was there in May of 2006 and you can smell the cat feces a block away. I can’t imagine the stench in August.

]]> By: PaulR http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528688 PaulR Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528688 I forgot to add: ...then head towards the rear, till you're about at the middle of the Center Block, some 40M.. I haven't been there in years. I forgot to add:
…then head towards the rear, till you’re about at the middle of the Center Block, some 40M..

I haven’t been there in years.

]]> By: Coresect http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-529456 Coresect Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-529456 The cats are still there, and I too have never smelt anything in 20 years of living in Rome. Strange. On the other hand the smog is pretty bad usually. The sanctuary is run by a rather zealous woman who (in my experience) did not seem at all keen to find her "residents" a home. A couple of years back I went to see if I could find a "friend" for my own cat and after being proudly shown pictures of two gorgeous Persians that had been given to two German tourists, something that was on the news here in Italy and was obviously a good PR exercise, I was shown several cats who were on their death beds with a series of illnesses and asked if I was interested. After being grilled by the aforementioned woman in something that resembled an interrogation (home, hisory, furniture, lifestyle, life philosophy...) I filled in a form and then was informed that they "would be in touch". Three months later nobody had contacted me, and by which time I had bought a kitten (admittedly a stray) from a cat shop. Shame. Background checks on prospective owners are a must, but that was ridiculous. One couple before me in line were being told they had to install a 1.5 metre fence on top of a 1 metre wall around their garden... As I type this, my two cats and one dog are happily playing in my garden. 8) Rant aside, Largo Argentina is a very beautiful site, and the cats make it even more enchanting. Sadly Italians often hold with the philosophy that cats can happily survive on the streets and therefore it's ok to abandon them, and several cats a day are unceremoniously dumped in Largo Argentina. Paul. The cats are still there, and I too have never smelt anything in 20 years of living in Rome. Strange. On the other hand the smog is pretty bad usually.
The sanctuary is run by a rather zealous woman who (in my experience) did not seem at all keen to find her “residents” a home. A couple of years back I went to see if I could find a “friend” for my own cat and after being proudly shown pictures of two gorgeous Persians that had been given to two German tourists, something that was on the news here in Italy and was obviously a good PR exercise, I was shown several cats who were on their death beds with a series of illnesses and asked if I was interested. After being grilled by the aforementioned woman in something that resembled an interrogation (home, hisory, furniture, lifestyle, life philosophy…) I filled in a form and then was informed that they “would be in touch”. Three months later nobody had contacted me, and by which time I had bought a kitten (admittedly a stray) from a cat shop. Shame.
Background checks on prospective owners are a must, but that was ridiculous. One couple before me in line were being told they had to install a 1.5 metre fence on top of a 1 metre wall around their garden…

As I type this, my two cats and one dog are happily playing in my garden.

8)

Rant aside, Largo Argentina is a very beautiful site, and the cats make it even more enchanting. Sadly Italians often hold with the philosophy that cats can happily survive on the streets and therefore it’s ok to abandon them, and several cats a day are unceremoniously dumped in Largo Argentina.

Paul.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-529463 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-529463 @Sam: cats are not omnivores like dogs. While they may look happy being fed spaghetti, it's not a healthy diet for them. Too much carbs may cause diabetes in cats. @Sam: cats are not omnivores like dogs. While they may look happy being fed spaghetti, it’s not a healthy diet for them. Too much carbs may cause diabetes in cats.

]]> By: Robbo http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528698 Robbo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528698 Wow - this is bizarre. My family and I were talking about this at lunch today - and then here it is. Oooooo-weeeee-oooooooo! Wow – this is bizarre. My family and I were talking about this at lunch today – and then here it is. Oooooo-weeeee-oooooooo!

]]> By: drawlight http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528700 drawlight Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528700 You can smell the cat feces a block away? Must give the ruins a touch of Authenticity. Between the smell and Julius' death I bet Juvenal would have loved to know this. You can smell the cat feces a block away? Must give the ruins a touch of Authenticity. Between the smell and Julius’ death I bet Juvenal would have loved to know this.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528703 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528703 I was in Rome last year and all the cats were gone. I think the city cleared them out. I was in Rome last year and all the cats were gone. I think the city cleared them out.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528961 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528961 I saw them in Rome too :-) they are so cute "! I saw them in Rome too :-) they are so cute “!

]]> By: psmeraldi http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528962 psmeraldi Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528962 <a href="http://smeraldi.smugmug.com/gallery/8067024_nHZ7d/1/525549700_QjiRJ">I have posted some photos about Largo argentina here</a> at http://photos.paolosmeraldi.com I have posted some photos about Largo argentina here at http://photos.paolosmeraldi.com

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528718 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528718 Made me think of the rat temple in India. Made me think of the rat temple in India.

]]> By: Kehaar http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528727 Kehaar Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528727 Hmmm, Roman graves for cats, Roma was infiltrated by the Egytian empire, Egytians liked cats.... omg its the old rule still at is, runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Hmmm, Roman graves for cats, Roma was infiltrated by the Egytian empire, Egytians liked cats…. omg its the old rule still at is, runnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

]]> By: SamSam http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528729 SamSam Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528729 The cats are certainly not gone. It's a historic and famous cat shelter, and it would cause an uproar. By the way, I've never smelled the catshit, even leaning right over the balcony of the ruins. I wonder if you were smelling some other cats? One nice fact: most of the stray cats in Rome, both on the streets and in the shelter, are fed bulk-made spaghetti with sauce (and seem perfectly happy). I wonder if the rest of our cats are all spoiled with all their canned cat food. Sam The cats are certainly not gone. It’s a historic and famous cat shelter, and it would cause an uproar.

By the way, I’ve never smelled the catshit, even leaning right over the balcony of the ruins. I wonder if you were smelling some other cats?

One nice fact: most of the stray cats in Rome, both on the streets and in the shelter, are fed bulk-made spaghetti with sauce (and seem perfectly happy). I wonder if the rest of our cats are all spoiled with all their canned cat food.

Sam

]]> By: hokano http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528739 hokano Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528739 Cats make the perfect Romans. They understand that they have been chosen by the gods to be in charge of any situation. They only ask that we accept that divine judgment, feed them and clean up their messes. Come to think of it, cats make the perfect Americans. Cats make the perfect Romans. They understand that they have been chosen by the gods to be in charge of any situation. They only ask that we accept that divine judgment, feed them and clean up their messes.

Come to think of it, cats make the perfect Americans.

]]> By: hokano http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528740 hokano Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528740 BTW, I am an American. BTW, I am an American.

]]> By: DUG1138 http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-529001 DUG1138 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-529001 This site was the the setting for a scene in a chapter from the book "Those Barren Leaves", by Aldous Huxley. (a very enjoyable read) This site was the the setting for a scene in a chapter from the book “Those Barren Leaves”, by Aldous Huxley. (a very enjoyable read)

]]> By: Fred H http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528746 Fred H Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528746 I think Fellini did a short film containing them. Maybe I imagined this. I think Fellini did a short film containing them. Maybe I imagined this.

]]> By: adonai http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528755 adonai Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528755 I've been there. A lot of the Roman monuments felt...exploited...either by the tourist market, or by long dead popes (The Pantheon is a perfect example of this). The cat santuary? Grass covered, sub-street level excavations with traffic on all 4 sides, with cats scattered all over the place. And it felt more authentic than almost any of the other historical sites in Rome. Interestingly, the people there said it's mostly staffed & run by ex-pats, and a lot of the local Romans wouldn't be upset if they were removed. They rely on tourist donations as the City doesn't support them. I’ve been there. A lot of the Roman monuments felt…exploited…either by the tourist market, or by long dead popes (The Pantheon is a perfect example of this).

The cat santuary? Grass covered, sub-street level excavations with traffic on all 4 sides, with cats scattered all over the place. And it felt more authentic than almost any of the other historical sites in Rome.

Interestingly, the people there said it’s mostly staffed & run by ex-pats, and a lot of the local Romans wouldn’t be upset if they were removed. They rely on tourist donations as the City doesn’t support them.

]]> By: Dragonflye http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-529012 Dragonflye Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-529012 The cat sanctuary behind Parliament Hill in Canada is a dump. Don't get me wrong, I'm an animal lover... but when tourists crowd back there to get a glimpse, I can't help but be embarassed at the junk-heap of shelters that have been put together for those kitties. Whenever I'm back there, I only ever see a raccoon helping himself to the mounds of garbage kibble being fed to those poor animals. http://www.collineduparlement-parliamenthill.gc.ca/histoire-history/terrains-grounds/snctr-snctry-eng.html The cat sanctuary behind Parliament Hill in Canada is a dump. Don’t get me wrong, I’m an animal lover… but when tourists crowd back there to get a glimpse, I can’t help but be embarassed at the junk-heap of shelters that have been put together for those kitties. Whenever I’m back there, I only ever see a raccoon helping himself to the mounds of garbage kibble being fed to those poor animals.

http://www.collineduparlement-parliamenthill.gc.ca/histoire-history/terrains-grounds/snctr-snctry-eng.html

]]> By: nanuq http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528758 nanuq Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528758 "Whether the cats rule themselves via Republic or recognize a cat Emperor is, as of yet, undetermined. " All cats consider themselves royalty. It's the humans who need to recognize that. “Whether the cats rule themselves via Republic or recognize a cat Emperor is, as of yet, undetermined. ”

All cats consider themselves royalty. It’s the humans who need to recognize that.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528760 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528760 I was there this May and they are definitely still there, although I didn't notice any smell. I actually didn't realize it was a cat sanctuary at first and just thought it was the ruins until I saw more and more of them laying in the shade of the rocks. I was there this May and they are definitely still there, although I didn’t notice any smell. I actually didn’t realize it was a cat sanctuary at first and just thought it was the ruins until I saw more and more of them laying in the shade of the rocks.

]]> By: NoahApples http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528764 NoahApples Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528764 How about the dogs at Pompeii? Not 250, to be sure, but there were quite a lot running around when I was there last year. How about the dogs at Pompeii? Not 250, to be sure, but there were quite a lot running around when I was there last year.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-529021 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-529021 That's one of the places my girlfriend and I visited to find another cat some weeks after our loved one died many yers ago. We didn't find one there at that time, but we liked anyway all that people who give their time to feed and care for those animals. If you come in Rome, which honestly as a Roman I tell you is becoming more and more a shitty place as the rest of Italy, take some time to visit that site, especially the small rooms you reach by taking the stairs down at the corner near Via Arenula. Here you will find more and more cats, people who take care of them and some cat related merchandising you can buy to help them pay for all that stuff. Another relevant site in Rome is this one, though isn't always open to the public: http://www.igattidellapiramide.it That’s one of the places my girlfriend and I visited to find another cat some weeks after our loved one died many yers ago. We didn’t find one there at that time, but we liked anyway all that people who give their time to feed and care for those animals. If you come in Rome, which honestly as a Roman I tell you is becoming more and more a shitty place as the rest of Italy, take some time to visit that site, especially the small rooms you reach by taking the stairs down at the corner near Via Arenula. Here you will find more and more cats, people who take care of them and some cat related merchandising you can buy to help them pay for all that stuff.
Another relevant site in Rome is this one, though isn’t always open to the public: http://www.igattidellapiramide.it

]]> By: Zombie http://boingboing.net/2009/06/27/roman-cat-sanctuary.html#comment-528769 Zombie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-528769 When I was in Rome last year I constantly found myself wandering back to this place. The staff are great and they do a wonderful thing for those animals. I still remember a little black cat who would run to see me every time I visited, and who would nip at any other cat I tried to pet. When I was in Rome last year I constantly found myself wandering back to this place. The staff are great and they do a wonderful thing for those animals. I still remember a little black cat who would run to see me every time I visited, and who would nip at any other cat I tried to pet.

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