Walt Disney and Salvador Dalí's Destino film



Here is Destino, the collaboration between Walt Disney and Salvador Dalí. Production began in 1945 and the film didn't premier until 2003. Apparently, it will finally see an official home DVD release in 2010 along with a documentary about the two artists' history together. Destino (Wikipedia) (Thanks, Kirsten Anderson!)


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#1 posted by Anonymous, July 7, 2009 10:18 AM

Time to bust out the acid!

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#2 posted by Anonymous, July 7, 2009 10:25 AM

oooooooHHHHH!!!!!!

I saw this film in Feb 08 at the Dali Museum in St Petersburg (fla) and was totally blown away. The distinctive styles of these two visual powerhouses fused in a harmonious way that was really unexpected and then deeply familiar.

Disney's diabetes-inducingly sweet romanticism mixed with Dali's dark and bitter love lost and unattainable style so, so well.

I would love to see a feature length work in this style, it's too bad that the situations of the world so often keep more great art from being produced. (and conversely that the situations of the world so often conspire to produce crap ;) ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Koons

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#3 posted by Anonymous, July 7, 2009 10:27 AM

I saw this at the Salvador Dali museum last year. Beautiful film. I'm glad that it is coming out on DVD.

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I saw this when it premiered alongside Les Triplettes de Belleville, and found it intensely moving. I've looked for it since, and I'm glad that it's found a new home.

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I've never liked Dali, until now.

But won't The Mouse come after BB with a Takedown Hammer?

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Yes! Thank you! I remember a few years ago when I found out about this, I looked all over the web for it and the only version that I could find was this crappy recording from some one who had snuck a camera into a screening of it at some art show in Italy. This version is a tremendous improvement.

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No need for the acid, #1. Dali in the past stated, "I am your acid!".

I heard about this thing my whole life and then finally saw it at the Dali and Films exhibit in the Tate last year (it's since moved over to MOMA and is probably kicking around the globe somewhere).

They also showed some of the original artwork Dali had done, and contrary to my expectations it was quite extensive. I get the impression that Dali painted many of the stills himself.

There was also a portrait of Disney done by Dali that is fascinating.

Dali was and is, in my book, one of the more underrated artists of the 20th century, despite his notariety. I think the art world couldn't get past the wacky personna he maintained and so kinda wrote him off a bit.

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Anyone remix this with new music yet? I'd love to see it with a trippy ambient techno track.

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#9 posted by gnp, July 7, 2009 11:25 AM

This is great! I've been hoping to see a good copy of this for some time. Just FYI though, the video has been squished down - it's supposed to be viewed in a 16:9 screen ratio, not 4:3.

I think the only anachronistic element of the animation is the obvious use of CGI modelling, which would not have been avilable back when Dali and Disney originally started the project. That's not to say that CGI shouldn't have been used to help make this - just that it should have been less visually obvious, to keep in spirit with the original artistic style.

In any case, Thanks to whoever made this available!

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#10 posted by Anonymous, July 7, 2009 11:44 AM

I second #8. As it stands, the video has amazing visuals with the most boring music imaginable.

I also believe that the CG adds to the surrealism. Dali would approve.

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#11 posted by Anonymous, July 7, 2009 11:53 AM

i saw this on a carnival cruise after wanting to see it for years. haha. i was one of three people who came to the screening. fools!

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WOW. Just... wow! I don't find myself bothered by the CGI - the whole thing is trippy enough that I didn't get hung up on it.

WOW. Anyone get a hint of Peter Chung / Aeon Flux? Perhaps it's just the eyeball closeups... Boing Boing brings the WOW! to my desktop again - good job.

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Mayor YAY! with an extra added yay on top. This is the only film I've ever actually written to the mouse and pleaded for a release from the "Disney vault".

There was a general concern that internal mouse politics would supress the DVD indefinately since this film had been one of Eisners pet projects. Glad to see that is not the case.

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#14 posted by Anonymous, July 7, 2009 12:21 PM

Saw this last October on the Disney cruise. Surprisingly there was only 6 or 7 of us who were interested in watching it. And they had some sketches and Dali artwork available to look over. It was almost a mini art history course on Dali and Disney's relationship.

Its definitely an interesting way to see Dali animated.

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#15 posted by Joyuna, July 7, 2009 12:52 PM

I like the not one, not two, but three copyright warning at the beginning of the ripped video.

But it is very beautiful and I'm glad I finally got a chance to see it. I've been hearing about it for a long time.

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The wikipedia article leaves out the bit that the storyboards were stolen (but I'm too loazy to add it).

Here's a pretty good article about the whole project:

http://daliplanet.blogsome.com/2008/06/29/disney-does-dali/

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Surrealism never died:

Destino was released theatrically in a very limited release with the film Calendar Girls as well as Triplets of Belleville. As of 2008, Disney has confirmed releasing the short with "their next feature release as a short" which would mean, at this date, Destino will accompany the theatrical release of Walt Disney Pictures' next release Beverly Hills Chihuahua.
[emphasis added]
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Destino + Beverly Hills Chihuahua?

Seems like Disney is the surrealist here.

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DRUGS: Dali had all of them. Twice.

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Wow, back when Disney animators still cared.

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#21 posted by Anonymous, July 7, 2009 4:31 PM

"Anyone remix this with new music yet? I'd love to see it with a trippy ambient techno track."

and

"As it stands, the video has amazing visuals with the most boring music imaginable."

I find the music rather beautiful, and a perfect counterpoint to the animation.

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#22 posted by DWittSF, July 7, 2009 6:33 PM

It reminds me of what Disney used to be.

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#23 posted by Smako, July 7, 2009 8:12 PM

My sister in law bought a painting at Venice Beach in California several years ago from some "tripping old hippie artist." She kept it around for a while and when she decided she didn't want to be a hippie any more she threw it out with a lot of other junk. She remembers the name, Dali. I told her she should have kept the bong too.

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#12 -- no, I totally agree. there are definitely overtones of Peter Chung's work in it. Either in the ways Chung himself was influenced by the surrealist movement or by the people who completed this piece being influenced by Aeon Flux. But the lady hero in this piece looks very much like Aeon in her own, Disneyfied way.

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I love the music.

Then again, I'm an old man in my 30s.

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#26 posted by Anonymous, July 8, 2009 6:06 AM

I saw Destino in the "Walt Disneys wunderbare Welt und ihre Wurzeln in der europäischen Kunst" (walt disneys wonderful world and their origin/roots in european art)-exhibition in munich, Germany about half a year ago. (19. sept 2008 - 25. jan. 2009 Kunsthalle der Hypo-Kulturstiftung)

I am confused now, for i believe to remember it to be somewhat different. i watched destino about 7 times in a row in the exhibition to be merely able to consume salvador and walts combined work. watching it now it feels like something is missing, or something was added - whatever way it disturbs my original impression and understanding of their message.

If indeed this is another version than the one shown at the exhibition i could not tell obviously, but it feels different. the 4th dimension and metaphysics of course would explain this.

speaking of peter chung, he was at some point in his career employed by disney. thus long after walt had died, walts legacy and apreciation of expressionist work as in dali has always been kept alive in the company.

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Did anyone else notice somethings strange? The animation includes several effects that defy the 1945 date. I don't just mean that the vision of the two artists was highly-advanced; that's obvious. I mean there are animation techniques which were impracticable (or so I thought) at that time. There is extensive full-motion air-brushing, which Disney usually had to minimize because of the expense and expertise it demanded. This short also uses 3-D rendering geometric modeling (rapidly zooming views around the rotating tower) that I can't recall seeing in any movies prior to the 1980s. Little facial details like the constantly brimming tears (ala Manga) and dangling strands of hair (ala Aeon Flux) were popular in the 1980s at the earliest. The write-up seems to suggest that this is the original, as-is. Still, I would bet my Mickey-Mouse ears that this short film has been enhanced in recent years. That's not a slap at the two genii. Remember, George Lucas tweaked outdated scenes from the first Star Wars to suit more sophisticated tastes. Regardless, I'm impressed by the DisneyDali merger.

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Did anyone else notice somethings strange? The animation includes several effects that defy the 1945 date. I don't just mean that the vision of the two artists was highly-advanced; that's obvious. I mean there are animation techniques which were impracticable (or so I thought) at that time. There is extensive full-motion air-brushing, which Disney usually had to minimize because of the expense and expertise it demanded. This short also uses 3-D rendering geometric modeling (rapidly zooming views around the rotating tower) that I can't recall seeing in any movies prior to the 1980s. Little facial details like the constantly brimming tears (ala Manga) and dangling strands of hair (ala Aeon Flux) were popular in the 1980s at the earliest. The write-up seems to suggest that this is the original, as-is. Still, I would bet my Mickey-Mouse ears that this short film has been enhanced in recent years. That's not a slap at the two genii. Remember, George Lucas tweaked outdated scenes from the first Star Wars to suit more sophisticated tastes. Regardless, I'm impressed by the DisneyDali merger.

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#29 posted by Anonymous, July 8, 2009 2:01 PM

You are correct, friendindeed. Only 18 seconds of the feature were animated (the turtle part) before the project was discontinued. The rest is new animation taken from the old storyboards.

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#30 posted by Anonymous, July 9, 2009 2:49 AM

Philistines.... the music is just perfect!

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#31 posted by Anonymous, July 10, 2009 1:41 PM

The video's been removed! Does anyone know where i can find it?

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