Report: US domestic surveillance program began within weeks of 9/11 attacks


13 Responses to “Report: US domestic surveillance program began within weeks of 9/11 attacks”

  1. aldasin says:

    This is my surprised face.

  2. Neon Tooth says:

    It’s almost as if they planned to do it anyway *gasp*

  3. Ugly Canuck says:

    Porter Goss, later head of the CIA?

  4. Takuan says:

    or it was already going on for a long time and was partially revealed when a convenient excuse “emerged”.

  5. Anonymous says:

    It is almost as if they were ready to go even before 9/11. What a shock.

  6. funkinger says:

    I’m a little more concerned with when it will end.

  7. insert says:

    Report Says Wiretaps Got Too Little Legal Review — NYT

    Yup, they did get too little legal review. In order to prevent this from happening again, it would be a good idea if we made some sort of foundational document with a section guaranteeing the right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    Oh. We already have one of those?

  8. Cowboyshoe says:

    A little bit of Devil’s advocacy here…

    Legal and constitutional issues aside, if the warrantless wiretapping was actually used to do what ‘they’ contend it was (discover and intercept terrorists operating in the US), getting it up and running in a few weeks is a bit of an achievement where government bureaucracy is concerned.

    I’m sure there are plenty of hawks who are trumpeting this report as a triumph of the spirit of bi-partisan efficiency in the wake of a national tragedy.

    Not my opinion mind you. Just trying to rationalize what will be going through the mind of the ‘patriot’ who’ll be strapping me down to the waterboard for being a doubleplusungood thoughtcriminal.

  9. Anonymous says:

    As I understand it, surveillance actually began shortly after Bush took office, well before 9/11.

  10. Mojave says:

    Yeah Porter Goss….and you know what he was doing the morning of 9/11? Having breakfast with Mahmoud Ahmad, the alleged money man behind Atta and company.

    “”Was it an ‘intelligence failure’ to give red carpet treatment to the ‘money man’ behind the 9-11 terrorists, or was it simply ‘routine’?

    On the morning of September 11, Pakistan’s Chief Spy General Mahmoud Ahmad, the alleged “money-man” behind the 9-11 hijackers, was at a breakfast meeting on Capitol Hill hosted by Senator Bob Graham and Rep. Porter Goss, the chairmen of the Senate and House Intelligence committees.
    “When the news [of the attacks on the World Trade Center] came, the two Florida lawmakers who lead the House and Senate intelligence committees were having breakfast with the head of the Pakistani intelligence service. Rep. Porter Goss, R-Sanibel, Sen. Bob Graham and other members of the House Intelligence Committee were talking about terrorism issues with the Pakistani official when a member of Goss’ staff handed a note to Goss, who handed it to Graham. “We were talking about terrorism, specifically terrorism generated from Afghanistan,” Graham said.””

  11. Anonymous says:

    Tell us more, #7 anonymous. Use Tor. I think we’re talking about the internet, not just phone traffic.

  12. Anonymous says:

    Nancy Pelosi was not the House Intelligence Committee Chairman in 2001, she was the ranking minority member. Porter Goss (R-Florida) was the chairman at the time.

    In 2001 the House and Senate were both controlled by Republicans and all investigations within each committee were controlled by Republican chairmen. Pat Roberts (R-Kansas) kept any report from his committee from being released until 2006.

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