Comments on: Independent comic book artists draw Marvel's superheros http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 25 May 2013 01:41:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541701 Brainspore Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541701 Bill Watterson didn't compromise either but I don't consider him "indy." Bill Watterson didn’t compromise either but I don’t consider him “indy.”

]]> By: Maddy http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541707 Maddy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541707 Tony's best was "Batty" about the thoroughly-soused baseball reprobate ... found in the pages of MURTAUGH in the 90s ... Tony’s best was “Batty” about the thoroughly-soused baseball reprobate … found in the pages of MURTAUGH in the 90s …

]]> By: Halloween Jack http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-542476 Halloween Jack Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-542476 There's a big difference between the Not Branc Echh/What Th' type comics, which are really just classic Mad/Cracked type parodies, and this concept, which isn't necessarily parodying a character as much as it's letting people who do unconventional comics show their unconventional takes on the characters. Some of the stories were quite affectionate, in fact. (Bizarro Comics made another interesting editorial decision: it paired up indy cartoonists in interesting and never-before tried artist/writer combos, i.e. <a href="http://www.lambiek.net/artists/b/bordeaux_ariel.htm">Ariel Bordeaux</a> would write a story that <a href="http://www.ellenforney.com/">Ellen Forney</a> would draw, and vice versa. The results were mostly successful and at least usually interesting. The last time that Marvel tried anything like this, as far as I know, is when <a href="http://www.40ozcomics.com/">Jim Mahfood</a> drew it, but the high hopes that I had for it were dashed when I realized that people like Brian Bendis and other Marvel types were writing... mostly about themselves. There are few people in comics more boring and irritating (often at the same time) as the current crop of Marvel "superstar" writers who really do think that they're stars and that they're somehow intrinsically interesting to anyone beyond a small group of suck-up fanboys. Let's hope that Twitter has stroked their egos enough that they get out of the way of genuinely interesting creators on this project. There’s a big difference between the Not Branc Echh/What Th’ type comics, which are really just classic Mad/Cracked type parodies, and this concept, which isn’t necessarily parodying a character as much as it’s letting people who do unconventional comics show their unconventional takes on the characters. Some of the stories were quite affectionate, in fact. (Bizarro Comics made another interesting editorial decision: it paired up indy cartoonists in interesting and never-before tried artist/writer combos, i.e. Ariel Bordeaux would write a story that Ellen Forney would draw, and vice versa. The results were mostly successful and at least usually interesting.

The last time that Marvel tried anything like this, as far as I know, is when Jim Mahfood drew it, but the high hopes that I had for it were dashed when I realized that people like Brian Bendis and other Marvel types were writing… mostly about themselves. There are few people in comics more boring and irritating (often at the same time) as the current crop of Marvel “superstar” writers who really do think that they’re stars and that they’re somehow intrinsically interesting to anyone beyond a small group of suck-up fanboys. Let’s hope that Twitter has stroked their egos enough that they get out of the way of genuinely interesting creators on this project.

]]> By: Doctor Popular http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541725 Doctor Popular Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541725 stellar! Can I wait until the TPB or will I just end up collecting the individual series? Hopefully I can wait. stellar! Can I wait until the TPB or will I just end up collecting the individual series? Hopefully I can wait.

]]> By: Teresa Nielsen Hayden http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-542503 Teresa Nielsen Hayden Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-542503 Halloween Jack, have you ever looked into how Marvel's writers get their gigs in the first place? Halloween Jack, have you ever looked into how Marvel’s writers get their gigs in the first place?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541748 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541748 This is just Marvel's rip-off of the DC Bizarro books. I remember back when Bizarro came out, Marvel said it would never treat it's heroes with such irreverence. This is just Marvel’s rip-off of the DC Bizarro books. I remember back when Bizarro came out, Marvel said it would never treat it’s heroes with such irreverence.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541517 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541517 I loves the little Maakies, I love them lots. I loves the little Maakies, I love them lots.

]]> By: adamnvillani http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-542298 adamnvillani Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-542298 Marvel published <i>Not Brand Ecch</i> from 1967 to 1969... that was pretty irreverent. Marvel published Not Brand Ecch from 1967 to 1969… that was pretty irreverent.

]]> By: Brett Burton http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541791 Brett Burton Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541791 @11 I'm not sure when DC did the Bizarro stuff, but this isn't exactly Marvel's first forray into "treating it's heroes with such irreverence". They had the long running Peter Porker the Spectacular Spider Ham parody comic, Obnoxio the Clown vs. The X-men and plenty of other non-serious funny books going back to the early 80s at least. @11
I’m not sure when DC did the Bizarro stuff, but this isn’t exactly Marvel’s first forray into “treating it’s heroes with such irreverence”. They had the long running Peter Porker the Spectacular Spider Ham parody comic, Obnoxio the Clown vs. The X-men and plenty of other non-serious funny books going back to the early 80s at least.

]]> By: Tdawwg http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541549 Tdawwg Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541549 Tony Millionaire is one strange cat, that's for sure! Tony Millionaire is one strange cat, that’s for sure!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541554 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541554 I want to see Bob Burden of the Flaming Carrot and Mystery Men do an issue! That would be AWESOME Philip Nelson NewTek <!-- www.newtek.com www.philipnelson.org --> I want to see Bob Burden of the Flaming Carrot and Mystery Men do an issue! That would be AWESOME

Philip Nelson
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]]> By: Bionicrat2 http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541574 Bionicrat2 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541574 Finally! It's been over 2 years since this was announced and samples were put out: http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=117317 I was really hoping it would just come out as a collected TPB from the get go. <a href="http://www.newsarama.com/comics/060905-STalesMAX.html">This link </a>has more examples. Finally! It’s been over 2 years since this was announced and samples were put out:

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=117317

I was really hoping it would just come out as a collected TPB from the get go.

This link has more examples.

]]> By: minTphresh http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541844 minTphresh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541844 reminds me of the old ug comic :"Milk and Cheese:Dairy Products Gone Bad"( Milk,"I'm a carton of spite!" Cheese,"I'm a wedge of hate!") tak is right, maakies rulez! the drinky crow show is just priceless. reminds me of the old ug comic :”Milk and Cheese:Dairy Products Gone Bad”( Milk,”I’m a carton of spite!” Cheese,”I’m a wedge of hate!”) tak is right, maakies rulez! the drinky crow show is just priceless.

]]> By: EeyoreX http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541856 EeyoreX Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541856 <blockquote> I remember back when Bizarro came out, Marvel said it would never treat it's heroes with such irreverence. </blockquote> Irreverence seems to be the norm rather than the exeption for Marvel these days. Aside from the <i>"What The..."</i> books, haven´t you seen <i>Marvel Zombies</i> Or (shudder) the recent <i>Marvel Apes</i>? They have a Spider-Monkey and everything!

I remember back when Bizarro came out, Marvel said it would never treat it’s heroes with such irreverence.

Irreverence seems to be the norm rather than the exeption for Marvel these days. Aside from the “What The…” books, haven´t you seen Marvel Zombies Or (shudder) the recent Marvel Apes? They have a Spider-Monkey and everything!

]]> By: devophill http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-543909 devophill Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-543909 Marvel has done this sort of thing recently, see Jonathan Lethem and Farel Dalrymple's Omega: The Unknown. This new book will even include the long-awaited follow-up to Peter Bagge's 2002 "Megalomaniacal Spider-Man", "The Incorrigible Hulk". Marvel has done this sort of thing recently, see Jonathan Lethem and Farel Dalrymple’s Omega: The Unknown. This new book will even include the long-awaited follow-up to Peter Bagge’s 2002 “Megalomaniacal Spider-Man”, “The Incorrigible Hulk”.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541880 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541880 @14 I think after mainstream comics spent the period from the mid 80s to now revising and reimagining their characters for an older audience, they were left with nowhere to go but parody. I mean how many times can you hit reset, put Spiderman in a black costume or kill Superman? How many crises on Infinite Earths can you have? And how long can you keep adults interested in costumed heroes? They're bored and their gonna grab alt comics, or stuff with zombies in it. Especially if they've were reading Batman when they were 5 and are now in their 30s. @14
I think after mainstream comics spent the period from the mid 80s to now revising and reimagining their characters for an older audience, they were left with nowhere to go but parody. I mean how many times can you hit reset, put Spiderman in a black costume or kill Superman? How many crises on Infinite Earths can you have? And how long can you keep adults interested in costumed heroes? They’re bored and their gonna grab alt comics, or stuff with zombies in it. Especially if they’ve were reading Batman when they were 5 and are now in their 30s.

]]> By: Spencer Cross http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541641 Spencer Cross Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541641 People who dig this may also appreciate illustrator Mark Todd's recent work: http://www.marktoddillustration.com/gallery%20html/art1.htm Much better appreciated in person as a lot of it is multi-layered and collage-like. Fun stuff. People who dig this may also appreciate illustrator Mark Todd’s recent work:

http://www.marktoddillustration.com/gallery%20html/art1.htm

Much better appreciated in person as a lot of it is multi-layered and collage-like. Fun stuff.

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541658 Brainspore Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541658 I love Maakies, but once you become an actual millionaire for your syndicated work I think you have to relinquish your "indy" status. I love Maakies, but once you become an actual millionaire for your syndicated work I think you have to relinquish your “indy” status.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2009/07/14/independent-comic-bo.html#comment-541664 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-541664 nope, he hasn't compromised. nope, he hasn’t compromised.

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