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	<title>Comments on: Bobby McFerrin hacks your brain with the pentatonic&#160;scale</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-557057</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a phenomenally addicting pentatonic scale generator toy thing.
http://lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a phenomenally addicting pentatonic scale generator toy thing.<br />
<a href="http://lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix" rel="nofollow">http://lab.andre-michelle.com/tonematrix</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-557315</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That scale was pentatonic?  I think I need to send my ears back to school</description>
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		<title>By: Geoff Sebesta</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-557063</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Sebesta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the copyright situation on this?

Could you use this for, say, a dance performance?</description>
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<p>Could you use this for, say, a dance performance?</p>
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		<title>By: ackpht</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-557067</link>
		<dc:creator>ackpht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could do a heckuva lot worse than having &quot;Don&#039;t Worry Be Happy&quot; as your legacy. </description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-557579</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe 15 yrs or so ago, I was standing next to a phone booth in Columbus Square in Manhattan, when a Black guy with dreads with a guitar carrying case over his shoulder asked me for a light. I gave him one and he lit a joint and thanked me and walked off.  A few days or so later I saw an add on a bus about how Bobby Mcferrin was conducting ( i think) at Lincoln center, and recognized the photo. So, I basically lit a joint for Bobby McFerrin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe 15 yrs or so ago, I was standing next to a phone booth in Columbus Square in Manhattan, when a Black guy with dreads with a guitar carrying case over his shoulder asked me for a light. I gave him one and he lit a joint and thanked me and walked off.  A few days or so later I saw an add on a bus about how Bobby Mcferrin was conducting ( i think) at Lincoln center, and recognized the photo. So, I basically lit a joint for Bobby McFerrin!</p>
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		<title>By: ozzzzzz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-557324</link>
		<dc:creator>ozzzzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a side note, if you want to hear something REALLY telling about singing in large groups, listen through the video to the point where Bobby is singing along to the notes he&#039;s making the audience sing and then move the slider bar back to the point where he&#039;s teaching the audience the pitches at the beginning! Everyone fell flat by almost a half-step!

That&#039;s happened in almost every unaccompanied chorus I&#039;ve ever been in...

Also, to Andremount #41 - Thanks for explaining the details of situation thoroughly and for adding in your expertise!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a side note, if you want to hear something REALLY telling about singing in large groups, listen through the video to the point where Bobby is singing along to the notes he&#8217;s making the audience sing and then move the slider bar back to the point where he&#8217;s teaching the audience the pitches at the beginning! Everyone fell flat by almost a half-step!</p>
<p>That&#8217;s happened in almost every unaccompanied chorus I&#8217;ve ever been in&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, to Andremount #41 &#8211; Thanks for explaining the details of situation thoroughly and for adding in your expertise!</p>
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		<title>By: jezebel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-558349</link>
		<dc:creator>jezebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>B-a-a-a, b-a-a-a....lol I love Bobby!!!  That was pretty nifty!</description>
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		<title>By: sabik</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-557328</link>
		<dc:creator>sabik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anonymous #27, the reason the 12-tone scale is beautiful to our ears is that people have fiddled with it for centuries to make it that way.

The ratios in a scale don&#039;t add, they multiply. This means that dividing an octave (with a 2:1 ratio) into 12 equal pieces results in a semitone ratio which is the twelfth root of two - an irrational number - so that all intervals except unison and octave are to some extent dissonant.

Tempering this to something that sounds good in a variety of commonly-used keys is the real trick in tuning theory and practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anonymous #27, the reason the 12-tone scale is beautiful to our ears is that people have fiddled with it for centuries to make it that way.</p>
<p>The ratios in a scale don&#8217;t add, they multiply. This means that dividing an octave (with a 2:1 ratio) into 12 equal pieces results in a semitone ratio which is the twelfth root of two &#8211; an irrational number &#8211; so that all intervals except unison and octave are to some extent dissonant.</p>
<p>Tempering this to something that sounds good in a variety of commonly-used keys is the real trick in tuning theory and practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pattern recognition is driven by evolutionary selection since only those capable of learning by near hits reproduce. Pattern equals predictability.
Binding time and being bound by time. Pleaseing patterns return to predictable points (usually starting).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pattern recognition is driven by evolutionary selection since only those capable of learning by near hits reproduce. Pattern equals predictability.<br />
Binding time and being bound by time. Pleaseing patterns return to predictable points (usually starting).</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-557334</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while on instinct and music; been reading/listening about therapy harp. When the great keyboard cat in the sky finally plays YOU off, what do you think you would like to hear as the final pattern of this mortal coil?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while on instinct and music; been reading/listening about therapy harp. When the great keyboard cat in the sky finally plays YOU off, what do you think you would like to hear as the final pattern of this mortal coil?</p>
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		<title>By: emayoh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-557590</link>
		<dc:creator>emayoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Ozz sez &quot;As a side note, [...]  Everyone fell flat by almost a half-step!&quot;


Thank you. To me, half the &quot;wonder and awe&quot; of this whole thing is in the audience being able to kinda approximately predict the pentatonic scale with a bunch of clues. There is some sort of bias in the prediction of the scale. 

The other half of the awe and wonder is how everyone who views the video further inserts even more bias into the listening act -- kinda approximately telling themselves what they&#039;re hearing. 

There&#039;s just as much bias going into an audience predicting pentatonic scale as there is in getting us BoingBoing commenters to believe we heard some perfect notes.

The layers of perception bias here are even more fascinating than just the video.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Ozz sez &#8220;As a side note, [...]  Everyone fell flat by almost a half-step!&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you. To me, half the &#8220;wonder and awe&#8221; of this whole thing is in the audience being able to kinda approximately predict the pentatonic scale with a bunch of clues. There is some sort of bias in the prediction of the scale. </p>
<p>The other half of the awe and wonder is how everyone who views the video further inserts even more bias into the listening act &#8212; kinda approximately telling themselves what they&#8217;re hearing. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s just as much bias going into an audience predicting pentatonic scale as there is in getting us BoingBoing commenters to believe we heard some perfect notes.</p>
<p>The layers of perception bias here are even more fascinating than just the video.  </p>
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		<title>By: tomboing</title>
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		<dc:creator>tomboing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was beautiful. Early in the piece, when the audience supplied the third note by instinct, I got a chill of wonder. As the piece grew more complex and the audience kept hitting their notes, my surprise leveled off but my enjoyment kept growing. Seeing the instinctive nature of the scale demonstrated was one kind of pleasure. Simply hearing that lovely communal unison voice was another. 

Interesting that an auditorium full of strangers can spontaneously form something so fine, not from practice or because they have been carefully selected, but just because they are people. A small amount of a certain kind of leadership was all it took to bring forth that happy averaging of voices to produce music, and to make each contributor a good singer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was beautiful. Early in the piece, when the audience supplied the third note by instinct, I got a chill of wonder. As the piece grew more complex and the audience kept hitting their notes, my surprise leveled off but my enjoyment kept growing. Seeing the instinctive nature of the scale demonstrated was one kind of pleasure. Simply hearing that lovely communal unison voice was another. </p>
<p>Interesting that an auditorium full of strangers can spontaneously form something so fine, not from practice or because they have been carefully selected, but just because they are people. A small amount of a certain kind of leadership was all it took to bring forth that happy averaging of voices to produce music, and to make each contributor a good singer.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-719398</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>remarkable,
I am a musician who plays Bolivian folk music also known as andean music which is based on pentatonic scale also,
native musicians play this sacred and beautiful melodies some times in large groups of 30 40 100 or so, they play dancing in a happy and peacefull spirit in circles with the drummer and some high pich percission instruments in the center, but the interesting part is that the melody is played sharing in couples and as you play and dance in circles you feel this effect o stereophony while you hear the melody dancing in your ears from left to right too, for me itÂ´s like if they were balancing your brain and connecting with your inner been,...   :)
IÂ´m glad for the music that supports the universe,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>remarkable,<br />
I am a musician who plays Bolivian folk music also known as andean music which is based on pentatonic scale also,<br />
native musicians play this sacred and beautiful melodies some times in large groups of 30 40 100 or so, they play dancing in a happy and peacefull spirit in circles with the drummer and some high pich percission instruments in the center, but the interesting part is that the melody is played sharing in couples and as you play and dance in circles you feel this effect o stereophony while you hear the melody dancing in your ears from left to right too, for me itÂ´s like if they were balancing your brain and connecting with your inner been,&#8230;   :)<br />
IÂ´m glad for the music that supports the universe,</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-557097</link>
		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;Interesting that an auditorium full of strangers can spontaneously form something so fine, not from practice or because they have been carefully selected, but just because they are people.&lt;/I&gt;

We should have elected Bobby Ferrin in 2000. 


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Interesting that an auditorium full of strangers can spontaneously form something so fine, not from practice or because they have been carefully selected, but just because they are people.</i></p>
<p>We should have elected Bobby Ferrin in 2000. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-557869</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#27

Except that the ratios aren&#039;t whole numbers. They can&#039;t be, since no matter which tone you start at, the octave above is 2x the frequency. Rather, the frequency ratio of adjacent semitones is the twelfth root of two.</description>
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<p>Except that the ratios aren&#8217;t whole numbers. They can&#8217;t be, since no matter which tone you start at, the octave above is 2x the frequency. Rather, the frequency ratio of adjacent semitones is the twelfth root of two.</p>
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		<title>By: Praline</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-558134</link>
		<dc:creator>Praline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Suggestions of Shills.

I stand in gobsmacked awe of those commenters who presume to call out McFerrin for using shills. Not because it&#039;s demeaning, but because it would make NO DAMN DIFFERENCE!  To think that it would is to totally, utterly, absolutely miss the point.  It is singularly obtuse.

This demo is precisely the sort of effect than cannot be shilled. Shills or no shills, what is happening is the same: each audience member is choosing a note to sing based on what they initially guess and subsequently hear.  The process by which the (roughly) correct note arises is what&#039;s wonderful, and that process would be unaffected by the presence of a few shills who sing on key.  Individuals with good pitch will be present in any decent-sized crowd anyway.  People&#039;s SENSE of what pitch is correct is the cool part. A few shills singing the correct note would not help anyone make the correct choice--everyone could just as easily choose to IGNORE the shills, UNLESS they already have a sense of the right pitch, which is THE WHOLE DAMN POINT!!!!

Shill accusers: you FAIL.  Horribly.  Miserably.  Totally.

(Not to mention, it IS insulting to McFerrin, and anybody with a functioning mind.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Suggestions of Shills.</p>
<p>I stand in gobsmacked awe of those commenters who presume to call out McFerrin for using shills. Not because it&#8217;s demeaning, but because it would make NO DAMN DIFFERENCE!  To think that it would is to totally, utterly, absolutely miss the point.  It is singularly obtuse.</p>
<p>This demo is precisely the sort of effect than cannot be shilled. Shills or no shills, what is happening is the same: each audience member is choosing a note to sing based on what they initially guess and subsequently hear.  The process by which the (roughly) correct note arises is what&#8217;s wonderful, and that process would be unaffected by the presence of a few shills who sing on key.  Individuals with good pitch will be present in any decent-sized crowd anyway.  People&#8217;s SENSE of what pitch is correct is the cool part. A few shills singing the correct note would not help anyone make the correct choice&#8211;everyone could just as easily choose to IGNORE the shills, UNLESS they already have a sense of the right pitch, which is THE WHOLE DAMN POINT!!!!</p>
<p>Shill accusers: you FAIL.  Horribly.  Miserably.  Totally.</p>
<p>(Not to mention, it IS insulting to McFerrin, and anybody with a functioning mind.)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of tunes are based on the pentatonic scale. Amazing Grace and What&#039;s Going On are the first two that come to my mind.</description>
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		<title>By: Keeper of the Lantern</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/01/bobby-mcferrin-hacks.html#comment-556857</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeper of the Lantern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby McFerrin&#039;s effortless brilliance has always amazed me.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>There is an interesting book by the composer/theorist Paul Hindemith (I forget the title) all about the structure of overtone series and their mathematical ratios.</description>
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		<title>By: Aeiouna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aeiouna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would probably be totally horrible at something like this. I&#039;ve been told I&#039;m tone deaf (though never tested for it).</description>
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		<title>By: Torley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the really nice thing about certain pentatonic scales (like the black notes on the piano) â€” not only do they sound Chinese as you glide up and down, they also sound harmonious in any order and combination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the really nice thing about certain pentatonic scales (like the black notes on the piano) â€” not only do they sound Chinese as you glide up and down, they also sound harmonious in any order and combination.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment conversations which accrue an air of superfluous tension or those which completely dilute the integrity of the comment bank really take away from the potential learning experience and enjoyment of the serendipitous wonders to be found by surfing and/or stumbling. I, amongst a myriad of others, have had innumerable experiences dampened if not ruined by the rants of the elitists online who feel it necessary to prove their mettle as intellectuals to the world by posting messages which boil down to: &quot;You&#039;re wrong because this and I&#039;m right because Algernon Wycliffe said such and such in this publication...so nah! :P&quot;
I have found that many things are better experienced without finding out how they &quot;tick&quot;. Most of the viewers of this, and other such articles, are not likely to care about the inner workings of the mind, genetics, et cetera. They will enjoy it and stumble on. Those who are curious and want to learn more about it may carry out personal research. If one enters a site and really wants to inform and aid those who are curious, they might consider leaving a comment similar to this:
&quot;If this grabbed your attention you can learn more about  at .&quot;

Moving on, I enjoyed this display of Mr. McFerrin&#039;s experiment. It geared me to think about many things which I will now read up on. Thank you for sharing, Cory Doctorow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment conversations which accrue an air of superfluous tension or those which completely dilute the integrity of the comment bank really take away from the potential learning experience and enjoyment of the serendipitous wonders to be found by surfing and/or stumbling. I, amongst a myriad of others, have had innumerable experiences dampened if not ruined by the rants of the elitists online who feel it necessary to prove their mettle as intellectuals to the world by posting messages which boil down to: &#8220;You&#8217;re wrong because this and I&#8217;m right because Algernon Wycliffe said such and such in this publication&#8230;so nah! :P&#8221;<br />
I have found that many things are better experienced without finding out how they &#8220;tick&#8221;. Most of the viewers of this, and other such articles, are not likely to care about the inner workings of the mind, genetics, et cetera. They will enjoy it and stumble on. Those who are curious and want to learn more about it may carry out personal research. If one enters a site and really wants to inform and aid those who are curious, they might consider leaving a comment similar to this:<br />
&#8220;If this grabbed your attention you can learn more about  at .&#8221;</p>
<p>Moving on, I enjoyed this display of Mr. McFerrin&#8217;s experiment. It geared me to think about many things which I will now read up on. Thank you for sharing, Cory Doctorow.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you liked that I&#039;d highly recommend the following
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVVUMNv1t9w</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you liked that I&#8217;d highly recommend the following<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVVUMNv1t9w" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVVUMNv1t9w</a></p>
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		<title>By: nosehat</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was wonderful.  That made my day.  I especially liked the part where he jumped his legs apart to I and III simultaneously, and the audience responded accordingly.

I&#039;d love to see the subsequent discussion.  Do all audiences do this because they&#039;ve been acculturated to do so, or is there a way that our brains are wired to &quot;think pentatonic&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was wonderful.  That made my day.  I especially liked the part where he jumped his legs apart to I and III simultaneously, and the audience responded accordingly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see the subsequent discussion.  Do all audiences do this because they&#8217;ve been acculturated to do so, or is there a way that our brains are wired to &#8220;think pentatonic&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did...i cried as I watched it the 1st 2nd and up till the 5th time...I can watch it now with out crying but it makes me very happy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did&#8230;i cried as I watched it the 1st 2nd and up till the 5th time&#8230;I can watch it now with out crying but it makes me very happy</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ anonymous #19
The 12-tone scale is beautiful to our ears for one reason only- that is, the wavelengths of each tone have nice whole number ratios. An octave, all 12 notes, has a 2:1 ratio. A perfect 5th, 7 steps, has a 3:2 ratio. It follows that a perfect fourth (5 steps) has a ratio of 4:3.
5+7=12
(4/3)*(3/2)=4/2=2/1

Now the pentatonic scale is simply the easiest ratios you can find inside the 12-tone scale. the central note here, one that you can tell he likes to end on, is the note that people in this thread have assigned the name II.
A fifth above that is the note he introduced fourth, a fifth above that is the note he introduced third, the fifth below II is the note he let the audience figure out, the fifth note introduced, and a fifth below that is the first note he gave.
It&#039;s the nicest whole number ratios you can make in five notes, which is why it shows up everywhere. So the genetic reason you are searching for is not some evolutionary reason to use the particular scale, but rather an appreciation for the underlying math of music that has been given to us through evolution.
As to why we subconsciously enjoy simple whole number ratios in things that we hear, I can&#039;t provide the evolutionary reason for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ anonymous #19<br />
The 12-tone scale is beautiful to our ears for one reason only- that is, the wavelengths of each tone have nice whole number ratios. An octave, all 12 notes, has a 2:1 ratio. A perfect 5th, 7 steps, has a 3:2 ratio. It follows that a perfect fourth (5 steps) has a ratio of 4:3.<br />
5+7=12<br />
(4/3)*(3/2)=4/2=2/1</p>
<p>Now the pentatonic scale is simply the easiest ratios you can find inside the 12-tone scale. the central note here, one that you can tell he likes to end on, is the note that people in this thread have assigned the name II.<br />
A fifth above that is the note he introduced fourth, a fifth above that is the note he introduced third, the fifth below II is the note he let the audience figure out, the fifth note introduced, and a fifth below that is the first note he gave.<br />
It&#8217;s the nicest whole number ratios you can make in five notes, which is why it shows up everywhere. So the genetic reason you are searching for is not some evolutionary reason to use the particular scale, but rather an appreciation for the underlying math of music that has been given to us through evolution.<br />
As to why we subconsciously enjoy simple whole number ratios in things that we hear, I can&#8217;t provide the evolutionary reason for that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how fun and interesting=can&#039;t believe some are not happy with just enjoying the simplicity of it all, but find it necessary to write a complete thesis about the clip-  it&#039;s human nature proven over and over and the audience is not rehearsed, it&#039;s expect the unexpected
relax folks, enjoy life for a change</description>
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relax folks, enjoy life for a change</p>
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		<title>By: LauraJMixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>LauraJMixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Absolutely brilliant.</description>
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		<title>By: Daemon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daemon</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;And now, I shall transform the audience into a musical instrument.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And now, I shall transform the audience into a musical instrument.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bunzoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>bunzoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to #19 anonymous...maybe it is universal because it is pleasant, and there is no evolutionary benefit to it whatsoever. How and why a cat purrs are not fully understood (if at all...even the study that says cats manipulate us with their purring: It works because cats&#039; purrs are pleasant to human ears)

Maybe God put the ability to find pleasant things into the human senses on purpose, because He desires us to find pleasure in the creation, including in ourselves. And evolution didn&#039;t cause the development of what seems pleasant to us, because God delights in us and wants us to delight in Him and His creation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to #19 anonymous&#8230;maybe it is universal because it is pleasant, and there is no evolutionary benefit to it whatsoever. How and why a cat purrs are not fully understood (if at all&#8230;even the study that says cats manipulate us with their purring: It works because cats&#8217; purrs are pleasant to human ears)</p>
<p>Maybe God put the ability to find pleasant things into the human senses on purpose, because He desires us to find pleasure in the creation, including in ourselves. And evolution didn&#8217;t cause the development of what seems pleasant to us, because God delights in us and wants us to delight in Him and His creation.</p>
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