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	<title>Comments on: Birthers glom on to fake Kenyan birth&#160;certificate.</title>
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		<title>By: TheWillow</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558080</link>
		<dc:creator>TheWillow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sixth, EF Lavender is a laundry detergent.&quot;

Maybe it&#039;s because I got like 2 hours of sleep last night, but this was the best thing I&#039;ve heard all day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sixth, EF Lavender is a laundry detergent.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s because I got like 2 hours of sleep last night, but this was the best thing I&#8217;ve heard all day.</p>
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		<title>By: Thowe</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558081</link>
		<dc:creator>Thowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dont be so uptight here, who would not sell a few birth certificates to the birthers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dont be so uptight here, who would not sell a few birth certificates to the birthers?</p>
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		<title>By: Osprey101</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558082</link>
		<dc:creator>Osprey101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to see someone come up with proof that his mother was actually a resident of Mars instead of Kansas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to see someone come up with proof that his mother was actually a resident of Mars instead of Kansas.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558340</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright this ends now! Why should only the Birthers have all of the fun. Now you can make your own Kenyan birth certificate!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=389x6206640

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright this ends now! Why should only the Birthers have all of the fun. Now you can make your own Kenyan birth certificate!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&#038;address=389x6206640" rel="nofollow">http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&#038;address=389&#215;6206640</a></p>
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		<title>By: thequickbrownfox</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558086</link>
		<dc:creator>thequickbrownfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is turning into a kind of flakey rehash of the First Council of Nicaea (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea)

&quot;Much of the debate hinged on the difference between being &quot;born&quot; or &quot;created&quot; and being &quot;begotten&quot;&quot;












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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is turning into a kind of flakey rehash of the First Council of Nicaea (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea</a>)</p>
<p>&#8220;Much of the debate hinged on the difference between being &#8220;born&#8221; or &#8220;created&#8221; and being &#8220;begotten&#8221;"</p>
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		<title>By: Frozen Sky Water</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558854</link>
		<dc:creator>Frozen Sky Water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@88:

The document released by the Obama camp was a Certification of Live Birth, freshly created in 2007 by Hawaiian officials at the request of the Obama campaign, based on Hawaii&#039;s computerised records, not the original hand-written long-form &quot;Certificate of Live Birth&quot;, created by the hospital at the time of Mr Obama&#039;s birth.

A Certificate of Live Birth contains more information, including the hospital name, and the name of the attending physician.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8171314.stm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@88:</p>
<p>The document released by the Obama camp was a Certification of Live Birth, freshly created in 2007 by Hawaiian officials at the request of the Obama campaign, based on Hawaii&#8217;s computerised records, not the original hand-written long-form &#8220;Certificate of Live Birth&#8221;, created by the hospital at the time of Mr Obama&#8217;s birth.</p>
<p>A Certificate of Live Birth contains more information, including the hospital name, and the name of the attending physician.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8171314.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8171314.stm</a></p>
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		<title>By: hipdadiddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558087</link>
		<dc:creator>hipdadiddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wonderfully authentic fold marks are a nice touch, too. But they may have gotten a little carried away -- unless Kenyan officials routinely carry birth certificates around in their shirt pockets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wonderfully authentic fold marks are a nice touch, too. But they may have gotten a little carried away &#8212; unless Kenyan officials routinely carry birth certificates around in their shirt pockets.</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558089</link>
		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>procreationist know-nothing flat-birthers beget procreationist know-nothing flat-birthers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>procreationist know-nothing flat-birthers beget procreationist know-nothing flat-birthers. </p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Jones</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558090</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#18:

Mars =&gt; &quot;Red Planet&quot; =&gt; Red =&gt; &quot;color of COMMUNISM!&quot; =&gt; Obama is a communist!

OMG WE&#039;RE DOOMED!

You know, I wouldn&#039;t be nearly so worried about these phuqtards if it weren&#039;t for the fact that organized mobs of them aren&#039;t packing town hall meetings to spew talking points and play &quot;rattle the congressman.&quot;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#18:</p>
<p>Mars => &#8220;Red Planet&#8221; => Red => &#8220;color of COMMUNISM!&#8221; => Obama is a communist!</p>
<p>OMG WE&#8217;RE DOOMED!</p>
<p>You know, I wouldn&#8217;t be nearly so worried about these phuqtards if it weren&#8217;t for the fact that organized mobs of them aren&#8217;t packing town hall meetings to spew talking points and play &#8220;rattle the congressman.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558347</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whoooo-doggie! hog mah grits iff&#039;n thissy heah Orly gal don&#039;t sound laik a furriner!

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/08/03/msnbc_taitz/
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whoooo-doggie! hog mah grits iff&#8217;n thissy heah Orly gal don&#8217;t sound laik a furriner!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/08/03/msnbc_taitz/" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/08/03/msnbc_taitz/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Xopher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558859</link>
		<dc:creator>Xopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, even more birthers here.  Birthers are stupid, mindless, racist losers.  Pretty pointless to argue with them, really (nothing will ever change their minds, because any evidence you present will be dismissed as fake), but have fun.

They&#039;re actually even stupider than Young-Earth Creationists, because at least the YECs believe that a being with divine powers faked up all the evidence to deceive His creation because he&#039;s a childish prankster and sadistic monster who made us with intellect so that if we use it we could go to Hell and He can torture us eternally, yuk yuk.

The birthers believe the Democrats did things that they couldn&#039;t have done without divine powers, yet the birthers ascribe no such powers to the Democrats.  

Birthers...&lt;em&gt;even Young-Earth Creationists are laughing at you.&lt;/em&gt; Must be the relief of no longer being the most single-minded and willfully stupid people on the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, even more birthers here.  Birthers are stupid, mindless, racist losers.  Pretty pointless to argue with them, really (nothing will ever change their minds, because any evidence you present will be dismissed as fake), but have fun.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re actually even stupider than Young-Earth Creationists, because at least the YECs believe that a being with divine powers faked up all the evidence to deceive His creation because he&#8217;s a childish prankster and sadistic monster who made us with intellect so that if we use it we could go to Hell and He can torture us eternally, yuk yuk.</p>
<p>The birthers believe the Democrats did things that they couldn&#8217;t have done without divine powers, yet the birthers ascribe no such powers to the Democrats.  </p>
<p>Birthers&#8230;<em>even Young-Earth Creationists are laughing at you.</em> Must be the relief of no longer being the most single-minded and willfully stupid people on the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion the Republican Party has been taken over the most extreme religious right (people who love to push their beliefs on others while trying to take away their rights) and thatâ€™s who they  need to focus on if they real want to win.  Good Luck, because as they said in WACO, â€œWe Ainâ€™t Coming Outâ€.

In the same vein, to all the birthers in La, La Land, it is on you to prove to all of us that your assertion is true, if there are people who were there and support your position then show us the video (everyone has a price), either put up or frankly shut-up.  I heard Orly Taitz, is selling a tape (I think itâ€™s called â€œMoney, Lies and Video tapeâ€). She is from Orange County, CA, now I know what the mean when they say â€œbehind the Orange Curtainâ€, when they talk about Orange County, the captial of Conspiracy Theories.  You know Obama has a passport, he travel abroad before he was a Senator, but I guess he fooled them too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion the Republican Party has been taken over the most extreme religious right (people who love to push their beliefs on others while trying to take away their rights) and thatâ€™s who they  need to focus on if they real want to win.  Good Luck, because as they said in WACO, â€œWe Ainâ€™t Coming Outâ€.</p>
<p>In the same vein, to all the birthers in La, La Land, it is on you to prove to all of us that your assertion is true, if there are people who were there and support your position then show us the video (everyone has a price), either put up or frankly shut-up.  I heard Orly Taitz, is selling a tape (I think itâ€™s called â€œMoney, Lies and Video tapeâ€). She is from Orange County, CA, now I know what the mean when they say â€œbehind the Orange Curtainâ€, when they talk about Orange County, the captial of Conspiracy Theories.  You know Obama has a passport, he travel abroad before he was a Senator, but I guess he fooled them too?</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558348</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhFqOqQm_-o</description>
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		<title>By: Frozen Sky Water</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558860</link>
		<dc:creator>Frozen Sky Water</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not simply release the Long-Form Certificate?

Here&#039;s a $10,000 donation if you do:

http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&amp;STORY=/www/story/08-04-2009/0005071557&amp;EDATE=

To date, no hospital in Hawaii has come forward to claim this birth.

No doctor or nurse has come forward to say they were present for that birth. Why not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not simply release the Long-Form Certificate?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a $10,000 donation if you do:</p>
<p><a href="http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&#038;STORY=/www/story/08-04-2009/0005071557&#038;EDATE=" rel="nofollow">http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&#038;STORY=/www/story/08-04-2009/0005071557&#038;EDATE=</a></p>
<p>To date, no hospital in Hawaii has come forward to claim this birth.</p>
<p>No doctor or nurse has come forward to say they were present for that birth. Why not?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its ironic how a &quot;certificate of live birth&quot; from HI is not sufficient proof, but this &quot;certified copy of registration of birth&quot; IS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its ironic how a &#8220;certificate of live birth&#8221; from HI is not sufficient proof, but this &#8220;certified copy of registration of birth&#8221; IS!</p>
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		<title>By: bardfinn</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558095</link>
		<dc:creator>bardfinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One might also wonder how it was printed using what appears to be Microsoft&#039;s commissioned variant of the Times New Roman font.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One might also wonder how it was printed using what appears to be Microsoft&#8217;s commissioned variant of the Times New Roman font.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Hutton</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558863</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Hutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Grimc&lt;/b&gt; retorted:
&lt;blockquote&gt; He&#039;s a Freeper reservist that volunteered for deployment to Afghanistan to set up his Birther publicity stunt suit, jumping around like he won something when the Army rescinded his orders--&lt;i&gt;nevermind the fact that volunteers can withdraw their request up to the day of deployment&lt;/i&gt;. [emphasis added]&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Grimc - if everything you say is true, freeper, volunteered, publicity stunt, etc., it doesn&#039;t change the fact that the Army recinded his orders. His publicity stunt worked, and that you are talking about it proves it was effective.

Also, please expand on your statement &quot;(the fact that) &lt;i&gt;volunteers can withdraw their request up to the day of deployment&lt;/i&gt;.&quot; - how does this work, does a soldier have to go to thier commander and request deployment, then they can withdraw and stay in the US? What if all the soldiers did that? Rather than wait to be deployed, they could volunteer then change their mind, ensuring they don&#039;t get deployed...

It doesn&#039;t sound right to me, I must be missing something...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Grimc</b> retorted:</p>
<blockquote><p> He&#8217;s a Freeper reservist that volunteered for deployment to Afghanistan to set up his Birther publicity stunt suit, jumping around like he won something when the Army rescinded his orders&#8211;<i>nevermind the fact that volunteers can withdraw their request up to the day of deployment</i>. [emphasis added]</p></blockquote>
<p>Grimc &#8211; if everything you say is true, freeper, volunteered, publicity stunt, etc., it doesn&#8217;t change the fact that the Army recinded his orders. His publicity stunt worked, and that you are talking about it proves it was effective.</p>
<p>Also, please expand on your statement &#8220;(the fact that) <i>volunteers can withdraw their request up to the day of deployment</i>.&#8221; &#8211; how does this work, does a soldier have to go to thier commander and request deployment, then they can withdraw and stay in the US? What if all the soldiers did that? Rather than wait to be deployed, they could volunteer then change their mind, ensuring they don&#8217;t get deployed&#8230;</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t sound right to me, I must be missing something&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Moriarty</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558097</link>
		<dc:creator>Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still authentic enough for Conservapedia. But really, B. Hussein O. can&#039;t possibly be President. Have you seen a picture of the guy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still authentic enough for Conservapedia. But really, B. Hussein O. can&#8217;t possibly be President. Have you seen a picture of the guy?</p>
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		<title>By: haineux</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558100</link>
		<dc:creator>haineux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wanna bet that the ever-so-crucial EMBOSSED SEAL is a photoshop job?</description>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558356</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/5aa7aae6c6/obama-debunks-birther-conspiracy</description>
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		<title>By: Timothy Hutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Hutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Grimc&lt;/b&gt; and others - If the reports are true, the army backed down - the soldier didn&#039;t have to exercise his right to revoke his request. If the army held out and made him revoke his request, it would have been better (IMHO), but that doesn&#039;t &lt;b&gt;appear&lt;/b&gt; to be what happened. The Army gave him an out - they simply &quot;won&#039;t exect him to appear.&quot;

The Army should have simply reminded him of his right to &quot;un-volunteer,&quot; since he volunteered, neutralizing his argument...

Your additional info was helpful, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Grimc</b> and others &#8211; If the reports are true, the army backed down &#8211; the soldier didn&#8217;t have to exercise his right to revoke his request. If the army held out and made him revoke his request, it would have been better (IMHO), but that doesn&#8217;t <b>appear</b> to be what happened. The Army gave him an out &#8211; they simply &#8220;won&#8217;t exect him to appear.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Army should have simply reminded him of his right to &#8220;un-volunteer,&#8221; since he volunteered, neutralizing his argument&#8230;</p>
<p>Your additional info was helpful, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Hutton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Timothy Hutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Grimc&lt;/b&gt; - To be clear, I never thought this was anything but a publicity stunt, that was a given when I first heard it on the news...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Grimc</b> &#8211; To be clear, I never thought this was anything but a publicity stunt, that was a given when I first heard it on the news&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Hutton</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558363</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Hutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just bumped into Dan Rather in line at Subway in Lower Manhattan, and we talked about this document - he swears it&#039;s real...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bumped into Dan Rather in line at Subway in Lower Manhattan, and we talked about this document &#8211; he swears it&#8217;s real&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558109</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the stupidest thing ever.

I mean come on, even if they SOMEHOW managed to prove that Obama was born in Kenya, his Mother is and was an American Citizen at the time, so he won&#039;t be disqualified from the presidency.

And even if they SOMEHOW managed to GET Obama disqualified from office, it&#039;s not like McCain would get the office, Biden would become president.  Which seems a little worse than making a circus clown commander-in-chief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the stupidest thing ever.</p>
<p>I mean come on, even if they SOMEHOW managed to prove that Obama was born in Kenya, his Mother is and was an American Citizen at the time, so he won&#8217;t be disqualified from the presidency.</p>
<p>And even if they SOMEHOW managed to GET Obama disqualified from office, it&#8217;s not like McCain would get the office, Biden would become president.  Which seems a little worse than making a circus clown commander-in-chief.</p>
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		<title>By: Timothy Hutton</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558365</link>
		<dc:creator>Timothy Hutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Mark&lt;/b&gt; said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Daily Kos and other sites are having fun debunking this poorly-executed forgery.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Their&#039;s are so much better &lt;b&gt;;^)&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Mark</b> said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Daily Kos and other sites are having fun debunking this poorly-executed forgery.</p></blockquote>
<p>Their&#8217;s are so much better <b>;^)</b></p>
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		<title>By: joeklahoma</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558110</link>
		<dc:creator>joeklahoma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least someone did the legwork debunking this before Dan Rather broke the story.

Or is it okay for &quot;left-winger&quot; to glom on to fake documents about Bush&#039;s National Guard service?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least someone did the legwork debunking this before Dan Rather broke the story.</p>
<p>Or is it okay for &#8220;left-winger&#8221; to glom on to fake documents about Bush&#8217;s National Guard service?</p>
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		<title>By: Syd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Syd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t the document also be in Kiswahili (or whatever language was primary in the year he was born) instead of English? I would assume there were people born (and delivering babies) in Kenya that don&#039;t actually speak English.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t the document also be in Kiswahili (or whatever language was primary in the year he was born) instead of English? I would assume there were people born (and delivering babies) in Kenya that don&#8217;t actually speak English.</p>
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		<title>By: orionsbelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>orionsbelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The really wonderful thing is that even if he was born in Kenya, his mother is from Kansas. So he&#039;s still a &quot;natural born citizen,&quot; and thus eligible to be president of the United States.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The really wonderful thing is that even if he was born in Kenya, his mother is from Kansas. So he&#8217;s still a &#8220;natural born citizen,&#8221; and thus eligible to be president of the United States.</p>
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		<title>By: DaughterNumberThree</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/03/birthers-glom-on-to.html#comment-558113</link>
		<dc:creator>DaughterNumberThree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23: 

I was just going to post and ask if anyone has seen a really large photo of this so the font could be checked authoritatively. The size of the image here is not large enough. It may look like Times New Roman (the bottom type looks like Georgia Bold to me) but at this resolution it&#039;s not possible to say for sure.</description>
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<p>I was just going to post and ask if anyone has seen a really large photo of this so the font could be checked authoritatively. The size of the image here is not large enough. It may look like Times New Roman (the bottom type looks like Georgia Bold to me) but at this resolution it&#8217;s not possible to say for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Xopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Timothy, what you&#039;re missing is that he volunteered to go to Afghanistan.  He wasn&#039;t being called up into active service.  

We&#039;re not talking about volunteering for the Army; that&#039;s a commitment to go where they send you when they send you.  Cook volunteered for the specific duty when he was not on active duty.  Therefore he could UN-volunteer just as easily.

However, it wasn&#039;t that he didn&#039;t want to go.  He launched a frivolous lawsuit with the help of that idiot Orly Taitz, seeking the remedy of not having to go, when at any time he could have just decided not to.  

Suppose your neighbor borrows your power drill, which you hardly ever use.  He says &quot;just let me know when you want it back, and I&#039;ll return it right away.&quot;  You decide that you want it back, but instead of telling him you get some idiot lawyer and file suit, demanding the return of your drill.  As soon as your neighbor hears of this, he returns your drill immediately, wondering why the heck you&#039;ve gone crazy, but saying nothing publicly.  You press ahead with your lawsuit, but as soon as it&#039;s established that you&#039;ve already gotten your drill back the court throws it out.

That&#039;s the equivalent of what Taitz and Cook did, except that to really match you&#039;d&#039;ve had to go to your neighbor&#039;s house with your drill and persuade him to borrow it in the first place.  And the Army rescinding his orders just means &quot;wow, even if you still wanted to go, we don&#039;t want someone as crazy as you in charge of our people over there.&quot;

Cook volunteered for Afghanistan for the &lt;em&gt;sole purpose&lt;/em&gt; of suing not to have to go based on his completely outrageous, frivolous, and legally* vacuous argument that the President was not legitimate.  He&#039;s not a real soldier, he&#039;s just an asshole freeper.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timothy, what you&#8217;re missing is that he volunteered to go to Afghanistan.  He wasn&#8217;t being called up into active service.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re not talking about volunteering for the Army; that&#8217;s a commitment to go where they send you when they send you.  Cook volunteered for the specific duty when he was not on active duty.  Therefore he could UN-volunteer just as easily.</p>
<p>However, it wasn&#8217;t that he didn&#8217;t want to go.  He launched a frivolous lawsuit with the help of that idiot Orly Taitz, seeking the remedy of not having to go, when at any time he could have just decided not to.  </p>
<p>Suppose your neighbor borrows your power drill, which you hardly ever use.  He says &#8220;just let me know when you want it back, and I&#8217;ll return it right away.&#8221;  You decide that you want it back, but instead of telling him you get some idiot lawyer and file suit, demanding the return of your drill.  As soon as your neighbor hears of this, he returns your drill immediately, wondering why the heck you&#8217;ve gone crazy, but saying nothing publicly.  You press ahead with your lawsuit, but as soon as it&#8217;s established that you&#8217;ve already gotten your drill back the court throws it out.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the equivalent of what Taitz and Cook did, except that to really match you&#8217;d've had to go to your neighbor&#8217;s house with your drill and persuade him to borrow it in the first place.  And the Army rescinding his orders just means &#8220;wow, even if you still wanted to go, we don&#8217;t want someone as crazy as you in charge of our people over there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cook volunteered for Afghanistan for the <em>sole purpose</em> of suing not to have to go based on his completely outrageous, frivolous, and legally* vacuous argument that the President was not legitimate.  He&#8217;s not a real soldier, he&#8217;s just an asshole freeper.<br />
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