Comments on: Robot negotiates with mentally ill man who threatened White House (UPDATED) http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Mon, 20 May 2013 07:09:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Johnny Cat http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566017 Johnny Cat Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566017 I sense an approaching storm of Peter Weller stock footage. I sense an approaching storm of Peter Weller stock footage.

]]> By: eustace http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566019 eustace Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566019 I can just barely believe that this has been going on all day without a resolution. I can just barely believe that this has been going on all day without a resolution.

]]> By: robulus http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566020 robulus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566020 Ahhhh yes. Nothing like the tender caress of a military robot coaxing you out of your car to ease the disposition of the mentally ill. I'm sure he'll settle right down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycf4Y1Gv6gA Ahhhh yes. Nothing like the tender caress of a military robot coaxing you out of your car to ease the disposition of the mentally ill.

I’m sure he’ll settle right down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycf4Y1Gv6gA

]]> By: Cicada http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566024 Cicada Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566024 @#3- I'd interpret it the other way, myself-- if he's mentally ill, you go negotiate with him and try to talk him down. If he's not mentally ill, you'd probably just go ahead and shoot the son of a bitch. <p>Besides, he decided to make threats against the White House...from LA. Picture of sanity? @#3- I’d interpret it the other way, myself– if he’s mentally ill, you go negotiate with him and try to talk him down. If he’s not mentally ill, you’d probably just go ahead and shoot the son of a bitch.

Besides, he decided to make threats against the White House…from LA. Picture of sanity?

]]> By: Xeni Jardin http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566026 Xeni Jardin Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566026 @#3, neighbor and relatives told news reporters he was depressed, on psychological medications. Has mental problems. @#3, neighbor and relatives told news reporters he was depressed, on psychological medications. Has mental problems.

]]> By: InsertFingerHere http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566027 InsertFingerHere Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566027 Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye. Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566283 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566283 how to defeat pack-bot types? Toss a coat or blanket over the sensors? Where to direct fire? Vulnerable points? Are they submersible? How much do they weigh? Just pick it up and hang it off the floor? Can you short the internals with house current? Spray paint the lenses? What's the best immobilizing position to pin it in? Signal range? Faraday shielding to cut control ( a copper mesh net?) Battery life? Temperature tolerance? It cant't climb a rope or a ladder? Do they have bomb carrying models? Is there a gas-weapon version? how to defeat pack-bot types? Toss a coat or blanket over the sensors? Where to direct fire? Vulnerable points? Are they submersible? How much do they weigh? Just pick it up and hang it off the floor? Can you short the internals with house current? Spray paint the lenses? What’s the best immobilizing position to pin it in? Signal range? Faraday shielding to cut control ( a copper mesh net?) Battery life? Temperature tolerance? It cant’t climb a rope or a ladder? Do they have bomb carrying models? Is there a gas-weapon version?

]]> By: InsertFingerHere http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566028 InsertFingerHere Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566028 Auugg.. even better. Look Dave, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over. Auugg.. even better.

Look Dave, I can see you’re really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill, and think things over.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566284 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566284 http://www.pinktentacle.com/2009/08/video-rescue-robot-does-not-eat-people/ http://www.pinktentacle.com/2009/08/video-rescue-robot-does-not-eat-people/

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566029 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566029 It's not a robot. It's a remotely operated vehicle or "ROV." Like a big model car with a remote-controlled arm on top and a cop on the other end, and unlike, say, WALL-E. Normally I let this sort of thing slide, but geez, it's Boing Boing and the mistake is embarrassing. Ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot It’s not a robot. It’s a remotely operated vehicle or “ROV.” Like a big model car with a remote-controlled arm on top and a cop on the other end, and unlike, say, WALL-E. Normally I let this sort of thing slide, but geez, it’s Boing Boing and the mistake is embarrassing. Ref http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot

]]> By: eustace http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566030 eustace Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566030 Perhaps if they had sent in Kegbot instead... Perhaps if they had sent in Kegbot instead…

]]> By: awkward_amma http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566032 awkward_amma Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566032 @#6 my exact thoughts... exactly. @#6 my exact thoughts… exactly.

]]> By: jaytkay http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566033 jaytkay Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566033 <blockquote>a mentally ill man accused of making threats on the White House</blockquote> Too much AM radio will do that to you.

a mentally ill man accused of making threats on the White House

Too much AM radio will do that to you.

]]> By: web_tasarimi http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-568594 web_tasarimi Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-568594 Ooo, Brobots! That's for when you have no one to watch football with, right? Ooo, Brobots! That’s for when you have no one to watch football with, right?

]]> By: Dave Faris http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566036 Dave Faris Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566036 I just watched with complete fascination the live feed from the news copter, from the beanbag shooting out the guy's window, to them dragging him out (despite the cloud cover) and then undressing the dude and hosing him down before loading him into an ambulance. (Frankly, it looked like he soiled himself, which is why they had to hose him off.) You folks out in LA are probably desensitized to it, but we just don't get that kind of news coverage here in the DC area. Someone really needs to make a cable channel that features nothing but live video feeds from news copters of police chases, 24/7. I'd watch it. I just watched with complete fascination the live feed from the news copter, from the beanbag shooting out the guy’s window, to them dragging him out (despite the cloud cover) and then undressing the dude and hosing him down before loading him into an ambulance. (Frankly, it looked like he soiled himself, which is why they had to hose him off.)

You folks out in LA are probably desensitized to it, but we just don’t get that kind of news coverage here in the DC area. Someone really needs to make a cable channel that features nothing but live video feeds from news copters of police chases, 24/7. I’d watch it.

]]> By: senorglory http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566039 senorglory Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566039 Should it be viewed as a good or bad sign that the cops have sent a military robot to "negotiate" with you? Should it be viewed as a good or bad sign that the cops have sent a military robot to “negotiate” with you?

]]> By: Chris the Tiki guy http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566042 Chris the Tiki guy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566042 <blockquote>Someone really needs to make a cable channel that features nothing but live video feeds from news copters of police chases, 24/7. I'd watch it.</blockquote>I thought that was SpikeTV's entire game plan? Well, that and Most Extreme Elimination Challenge. And "Girls Gone Wild" ads.

Someone really needs to make a cable channel that features nothing but live video feeds from news copters of police chases, 24/7. I’d watch it.

I thought that was SpikeTV’s entire game plan? Well, that and Most Extreme Elimination Challenge. And “Girls Gone Wild” ads.

]]> By: Felton http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566554 Felton Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566554 Arkizzle@49: Rats! That's what I get for not being thorough. Arkizzle@49: Rats! That’s what I get for not being thorough.

]]> By: Cicada http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566044 Cicada Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566044 "You are in direct violation of Penal code 1.13 Section 9. You have 5 seconds to comply" “You are in direct violation of Penal code 1.13 Section 9. You have 5 seconds to comply”

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566048 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566048 It's Southern California. Driving a VW instead of a Benz or a Jaguar is prima facie evidence of mental illness. It’s Southern California. Driving a VW instead of a Benz or a Jaguar is prima facie evidence of mental illness.

]]> By: Christovir http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566051 Christovir Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566051 The best way to negotiate with the mentally ill: with government robots controlled by law enforcement agents who want to arrest you. It is actually a good tactic for many reasons -- keeps the situation more calm, no risk to the negotiator, less risk to the person in question -- but perhaps not such a good idea on the enabling-paranoid-delusions-for-paranoids-everywhere aspect: "Did you hear about the guy who questioned the White House and Obama sent one of his Obama-bots to take him away? They've been trying to find me too, but this protective layer of baked beans means they can't see me. Shhh, don't tell anyone!" The best way to negotiate with the mentally ill: with government robots controlled by law enforcement agents who want to arrest you.

It is actually a good tactic for many reasons — keeps the situation more calm, no risk to the negotiator, less risk to the person in question — but perhaps not such a good idea on the enabling-paranoid-delusions-for-paranoids-everywhere aspect: “Did you hear about the guy who questioned the White House and Obama sent one of his Obama-bots to take him away? They’ve been trying to find me too, but this protective layer of baked beans means they can’t see me. Shhh, don’t tell anyone!”

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566311 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566311 What I'm waiting for is for someone to come up with a way to hijack and take over our massive armies of drones, ROVs, and suchlike that will soon comprise our armies and police forces. Then the fun will really start. What I’m waiting for is for someone to come up with a way to hijack and take over our massive armies of drones, ROVs, and suchlike that will soon comprise our armies and police forces. Then the fun will really start.

]]> By: Darren Garrison http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566058 Darren Garrison Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566058 Anyone share my pet peeve of calling these and similar things "robots"? That is not a robot. A robot, after being programed, operates autonomously. This thing is remotely human controlled. It's a waldo. Anyone share my pet peeve of calling these and similar things “robots”? That is not a robot. A robot, after being programed, operates autonomously. This thing is remotely human controlled. It’s a waldo.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566059 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566059 next: police robots that kill. next: police robots that kill.

]]> By: chroma http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566318 chroma Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566318 <p> robot <br /> 2. A machine or device that operates automatically or by <b>remote control</b>. <br /> Reference: http://www.answers.com/topic/robot <p> robot <br /> 1. b. any mechanical device operated automatically, <b>esp. by remote control</b>, to perform in a seemingly human way <br /> Reference: http://www.yourdictionary.com:80/robot </p></p> robot
2. A machine or device that operates automatically or by remote control.

Reference: http://www.answers.com/topic/robot

robot
1. b. any mechanical device operated automatically, esp. by remote control, to perform in a seemingly human way

Reference: http://www.yourdictionary.com:80/robot

]]> By: jaytkay http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566064 jaytkay Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566064 <blockquote>Someone really needs to make a cable channel that features nothing but live video feeds from news copters of police chases, 24/7. I'd watch it.</blockquote> That's basically what TV news is l like in LA. Sneeze too loudly in your car and four helicopters are on the scene in moments.

Someone really needs to make a cable channel that features nothing but live video feeds from news copters of police chases, 24/7. I’d watch it.

That’s basically what TV news is l like in LA.

Sneeze too loudly in your car and four helicopters are on the scene in moments.

]]> By: freeyourcrt http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566577 freeyourcrt Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566577 Hours long standoff & full media coverage. For our little robot buddy and his manufacturers, this type of PR is priceless. Clearly robots (overloads) are for the benefit of us all. Hours long standoff & full media coverage.

For our little robot buddy and his manufacturers, this type of PR is priceless. Clearly robots (overloads) are for the benefit of us all.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566591 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566591 <QUOTE>Northrop Grumman is wrong, it is as simple as that. They can use a diluted, inaccurate use of the word "robot" to appeal to an ignorant audience if they wish, but it does not make the term correct.</QUOTE> Hey now, it worked out just fine for Rudy Rucker when he did exactly that with "alive" and "sentinent", didn´t it? Words mean whatever they are used communicate at the moment. Northrop Grumman is wrong, it is as simple as that. They can use a diluted, inaccurate use of the word “robot” to appeal to an ignorant audience if they wish, but it does not make the term correct.

Hey now, it worked out just fine for Rudy Rucker when he did exactly that with “alive” and “sentinent”, didn´t it?

Words mean whatever they are used communicate at the moment.

]]> By: Takuan http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566339 Takuan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566339 semi-autonomous robot a telefactor that will be started by a human operator and released to kill you on its own decision/opportunity. semi-autonomous robot

a telefactor that will be started by a human operator and released to kill you on its own decision/opportunity.

]]> By: Piers W http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/lapd-robot-negotiati.html#comment-566854 Piers W Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-566854 I thought I'd put "OED" or something like that at the top. I suppose it was a bit long. How did you link to it? It didn't seem to want me to. I thought I’d put “OED” or something like that at the top.

I suppose it was a bit long.

How did you link to it? It didn’t seem to want me to.

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