I just wished that these people would watch the Bill Moyers Journal on PBS;their coverage of the health care issue (and if you haven’t please do, they have the videos available on pbs.org).

“You have done enough. Have you no sense of decency?”

This was hero Joseph Welch, to Wisconsin Republican Senator Joseph R. McCarthy in 1954.

The concern of the crazies is valid, and they are entitled to their own opinions, but not to their own facts, no matter how much Rush and Karl and Sean and O’Reilly tell them otherwise. They are not “patriots” they are puppets. And why are they being maipulated like this? The average Health Company CEO’s pay is over 11 million dollars a year, so this gives each one of them 11 million reasons to disrupt the democratic process to fit their own agenda, where the bottom line is the only line.

No offense intended to anyone (other than the people hanging this country out to dry.)

If the woman in the video had actually asked the questions you pose, then it would have been a real conversation. Instead, she spouted what has, very sadly, become the now-routine Nazi nonsense, complete with visual aids. I know who my vote for “stupid” goes to.

Like Wilson’s hippies, calling-in to hear the right wing fascist rant.

Fox is car crash TV. I betcha a LOT of their viewers laugh in the wrong places.

It’s fine to have doubts. Thats why there are meetings. to hopefully assuage them.

Even if you disagree, at least act like a rational human being and prove your point through reasonable arguement, instead of wharrgarrbling. (I’m not saying YOU you, I mean people in general)

As to how we are perceived by the rest of the world, well, we ARE an amalgam of the rest of the world–and courteous and thoughtful discourse doesn’t necessarily rise to the top like this exchange can.

The only man in modern history who can even be mentioned in the same breadth as Hitler is Stalin, and I’m afraid even he falls short.

Lets make this simple, no comparison to Hitler is possible. He defines the word incomparable better than Michael Jordan.

The way these people live seems so stressful, always against something all the time…

http://www.larouchepac.com/node/11111

and watch the whole video at the link given waay above.

Can a USian comment on how LaRouche is viewed?
Do people think he is the extreme wing of the Democractic Party? Cos it seems he is straight from the Department of You’re Not Helping (Jon Stewart dailyshowism)

Or someone who does not?

It’s hard to say exactly what this crazy lady believes, but I’m pretty sure “Nazi Hitler socialist!” is not shorthand for a reasoned critique of Obama’s plan.

If someone were to stand up at one of these town hall meetings and ask the question you did, Sojac, I’m sure Frank, or anyone else, would gladly explain to them how this works. But that isn’t happening. All we’re left with is one side offering a plan and the other shouting gibberish that amounts to a toddler saying “No!” over and over again. That’s not a debate, that’s a temper tantrum.

I really hope you get some kind of good public healthcare alternative over there. Poor people should not have to be ruined by insurance companies in a developed country.

Dudes, pants-messing fear trumps cautious, tempered hope every time.

“You know, if you work hard, and are lucky, good things might come of it.”
“HOLY CRAP ALIEN NAZI TEENAGER MUSLIMS ARE GOING TO EAT OUR BABIES AND OBAMA WANTS TO GIVE THEM ALL PASSPORTS AND FREE HEALTH CARE!”

It’s fear politics. Simpering goofballs like Glenn Beck, ego-maniacal crackpots like Bill O’Rielly and old white fleshblobs like Lou Dobbs, all traffic in it on a regular basis. It does sell ads, that’s for sure. Ads for insurance companies, amongst other things.

I’m always glad to see a politician stand up for basic common sense.

Please do not put me in the same breath as this woman. Just because I’m homeschooled by a Christian program does not make me a nutcase. I only believe the roughly 30 percent in those programs (the science portion), and that reluctantly. I tend to have to look things up via Google because I can’t trust what they’re saying. I could go on forever about the crap these things have put me through. But please, don’t compare me to her.

The President has made the following assurances:

(1) 40+ million Americans who have no health insurance will now be fully covered.

(2) Those who are currently covered by Medicare or commercial insurance will have no diminution of the care they currently receive.

(3) All this will be done with no net increase in health care costs or addition to the federal deficit.

Now, who should we characterize as “dumb”?

Someone who believes all three can be done simultaneously?

Or someone who does not?

Please investigate the following countries health care systems for examples of where:
1) Everyone gets covered by some kind of health insurance system regardless of income.
2) Private care matches that of the US System (this is one point that is arguable depending on WHAT you are looking at, but generally the US honestly isn’t that good!).
3) Health care costs are much lower per person nationwide.

Australia, Canada, France, Italy, Germany, The United Kingdom, etc, etc.

It’s not a matter of can it be done, it’s been proven in many countries that it can be done quite easily.

The problem the US has is will it be done or will corporate lobbying brainwash too much of the population into thinking it’s somehow a bad idea?

Or someone who does not?

Well it’s done here in Canada, why not the US?

I don’t really see that as relevant. I don’t think anyone is laying the blame for the misinformation and bullshit solely on the feet of the GOP and the conservatives, though they’ve clearly done their fair share of muddying the waters.

Why does this level of stupid often come from the U.S.? What is it about this country that allows for such an intense concentration of total nonsense? Where one thing apparently really means the exact opposite? Where people work feverishly against their own interest?

Like trained monkeys, they wave the flag they have been trained to wave and attack monkeys which wave other flags.

That’s not patriotism, that’s just good training.