How Science Reporting Works

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29 Responses to “How Science Reporting Works”

  1. Xenu says:

    So true it’s almost not funny.

  2. Xopher says:

    This is why I stopped reading the Science Times. Anything in a field I knew about was this level of crap, so I figured the stuff in other fields probably wasn’t much better, which meant I was filling my head with bullshit.

  3. Antinous / Moderator says:

    So it works like every other kind of reporting.

  4. redrichie says:

    Oh-ho-ho. Brilliant.

    I totally lol’d

    In fact I’m still grinning like an imbecile.

  5. gollux says:

    @Antinous

    Yep, pretty much.

  6. slgalt says:

    This comic covers science news cycle in a bit more detail:

    http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=1174

  7. adralien says:

    It’s a shame science reporting is like this as it leads to all kinds of trouble. The investigative path of science is fascinating and it would make really good news stories, but there’s the large assumption that no-one cares about science unless it makes your junk bigger.

    SLGALT, nice, I like the “dingding”… I think that’s also how the circle of self-fulfilling credibility in reporting works as well…

  8. Anonymous says:

    SCIENTISTS BAFFLED

  9. Davin says:

    Unfortunately, this is an awful lot like how scientists write their conclusion sections, too.

  10. endymion says:

    #6: Ha! I actually like that comic more than the original post. (Sorry Cory!)

  11. Anonymous says:

    Hi all,

    If you liked this comic, you might want to check out http://www.healthnewsreview.org/. It’s the work of a group based at the University of Minnesota that critiques health reporting.

  12. Shelby Davis says:

    @SLGALT:

    Aha! When I saw this I knew there was a more complete comic out there a bit ago, but couldn’t remember which one! Good call!

  13. gATO says:

    Did you noticed that there’s a webzine called ding ding, in the comic linked by SLGALT?!? Has quite the ring, doesn’t it?? I’m off to register that domain right now, byez!

  14. Takuan says:

    @11 looks like spam to me

  15. wnghanglow says:

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    • Antinous / Moderator says:

      New to the internet? There’s this thing called a “link” that you can click to see the whole comic.

  16. Jonathan Badger says:

    @Antonius
    Not quite. You see, unlike the majority of news subjects like politicians or religious leaders, the scientists actually produced real results that could have been reported on in non-sensational manner.

    Yes, it’s annoying how findings are often overhyped (and it’s naive to think that scientists themselves don’t contribute to this in many cases), but that doesn’t change the issue that unlike most fields, there is more than the blowing of hot-air going on in science.

    • Antinous / Moderator says:

      I was thinking of the way that the media completely ignores substantive political issues in favor of reporting decades-old details of politicians’ personal lives.

  17. Anonymous says:

    Another pertinent version of this comic would be:

    Scientists: Our data and models indicate that Global average temperatures will likely only rise 2 degrees in the next 100 years, instead of the 6 degrees suggested by previous studies…

    Media: Global Warming averted! SUV sales to pick up again!

  18. Snig says:

    There was a cartoon years ago of rats in a cage in a lab who were celebrating, in view was a newspaper with the headline “Cancer cured in Rats”.

  19. apoxia says:

    #6 SLGALT

    You bet me to it! I was just checking the comments to see if anyone had linked to the PhD comic.

    I love that comic, it truly captures the horror that is PhD research.

  20. Maggie Koerth-Baker says:

    I LOL’d. And then I sat staring sadly at the wall for a couple minutes.

  21. Anonymous says:

    maggie @18 – nooo! – your engaging and well-educated science journalism gives us all hope for the future! don’t lose heart!

  22. Cicada says:

    @15- The first one takes lots of time to report properly– more than TV news is likely to have time for, and possibly more than the average attention span. The second takes about five seconds.

    Hell, consider the amount of background knowledge someone would have to have to make an informed decision on global warming policy…how many thousands of pages of research it’d take to actually understand the economic tradeoffs involved, how much training it’d take to understand those pages, etc. Now do that again with every other science topic…

  23. ackpht says:

    One of my favorite quotes is from an old Bob Hope comic book: “Dumb people resent smart people. And most people are dumb.”

  24. Anonymous says:

    Cancer reporting is tricky, and there is a tendency with cancer news for two things to happen:

    a) the primary source overhypes the discovery in a press release and,

    b) the beat reporter for the media outlet does nt have enough scientific background to ask the right questions.

    There is getting to be more awareness that cancer cures in mice don’t mean anything. On the other hand, many science writers have excellent science backgrounds, but then they get flak from scientists who can be very controlling about how their work is reported, even when they are pretty much wrong. Scientists as a rule are really terrible writers and do not understand that you can’t include every detail, proviso, and qualifier in a scientific paper in a single 400 word news brief, and also explain the science for a lay audience. Sometimes the best you can do is a crude analogy.

    In short, while I cringe when I see headlines such as the above, I also tend to think that bashing science writers is a pretty cheap shot. Anyone who thinks they can do it better, go ahead and try.

  25. Anonymous says:

    Haha. That sounds about right, then the same scientists read the article to figure out who cured it.

    pba 2009

  26. Jason Rizos says:

    Even worse:

    Hypothesis: Does Marijuana cause insanity?

    Conclusion: No, not at all.

    Newspaper Headline: Scientists investigate insanity-causing properties of Marijuana.

    EBSCO Search Results for “Marijuana” + “Insanity”: 1 (more)

  27. Anonymous says:

    Apparently no one here has been peer-reviewed for Nature, Science, Cell, PNAS, etc…this is so untrue it IS funny. Yet another cheap shot for those who chose worthless endeavors opposite science that are now sitting in the unemployment line, and need to be cheered up at the the expense of the very people who are the sole reason the average life-span doesn’t end at age 40.

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