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		<title>By: Xeni Jardin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577794</link>
		<dc:creator>Xeni Jardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ian, I appreciate the fact that you&#039;re a regular reader, and that you&#039;ve taken the time to share the strong feelings you have about this particular post. 

I think I&#039;ve said about as much as I want to say about my own subjective, internal emotional or intellectual reasons for blogging about this subject. Like most of the other things I blog, I blogged it because I&#039;m thinking about it. It interests me and disturbs me. So it belongs here. 

Long conversations about whether this post is wonderful or not are utterly boring and banal. I don&#039;t want to engage in them. If folks don&#039;t dig it, move along to the next BB post, or if it&#039;s so upsetting that you don&#039;t want to tune in, by all means don&#039;t. There are many other places to direct your attention. 

BB is still a &quot;personal blog&quot; for each of us who contribute. I hope it always stays that way.

Some of the things that pass through my awareness throughout the day are pleasant diversions. Some are interesting intellectual puzzles.Some of them are creepy or scary. This is one of the latter. All of those types of topics end up on BB. 

I won&#039;t engage further in meta-analysis about this post, though, that&#039;s boring and not where I want to spend my attention today.

If others want to engage in that sort of analysis here, I&#039;m totally cool with that, so long as there&#039;s no &quot;WAAAAAH WAHHHH THIS ISN&#039;T WONDERFUL&quot; or &quot;YOU SUCK FOR FINDING THIS INTERESTING.&quot; Sorry, those are magic words that earn you a can of whupass and a lack of vowels around these parts. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ian, I appreciate the fact that you&#8217;re a regular reader, and that you&#8217;ve taken the time to share the strong feelings you have about this particular post. </p>
<p>I think I&#8217;ve said about as much as I want to say about my own subjective, internal emotional or intellectual reasons for blogging about this subject. Like most of the other things I blog, I blogged it because I&#8217;m thinking about it. It interests me and disturbs me. So it belongs here. </p>
<p>Long conversations about whether this post is wonderful or not are utterly boring and banal. I don&#8217;t want to engage in them. If folks don&#8217;t dig it, move along to the next BB post, or if it&#8217;s so upsetting that you don&#8217;t want to tune in, by all means don&#8217;t. There are many other places to direct your attention. </p>
<p>BB is still a &#8220;personal blog&#8221; for each of us who contribute. I hope it always stays that way.</p>
<p>Some of the things that pass through my awareness throughout the day are pleasant diversions. Some are interesting intellectual puzzles.Some of them are creepy or scary. This is one of the latter. All of those types of topics end up on BB. </p>
<p>I won&#8217;t engage further in meta-analysis about this post, though, that&#8217;s boring and not where I want to spend my attention today.</p>
<p>If others want to engage in that sort of analysis here, I&#8217;m totally cool with that, so long as there&#8217;s no &#8220;WAAAAAH WAHHHH THIS ISN&#8217;T WONDERFUL&#8221; or &#8220;YOU SUCK FOR FINDING THIS INTERESTING.&#8221; Sorry, those are magic words that earn you a can of whupass and a lack of vowels around these parts. </p>
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		<title>By: mric3</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-612099</link>
		<dc:creator>mric3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>google would have all the data if he followed them for blocks
if we find it share it
google going to delete these views very soon</description>
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if we find it share it<br />
google going to delete these views very soon</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-578567</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know most of these so called â€œpolice/ parole officersâ€ always have a chip on their shoulders, and even when they fail to do their jobs they appear arrogant like saying â€œwhat are you going to doâ€, letâ€™s face it she who save herself, she was not save by the authorities.  Does anyone believe that the authorities were investigating her disappearance?  The car used in her kidnapping was in the backyard, the lazy ass cops didnâ€™t even bother to go through the backyard when the information indicated that kids were living back there, they didnâ€™t check local schools to see if the kids were going to school or even asked to see the kids, no report to child protective services, boy how lazy can you be and still pick up your public service check, not to mention the parole officers who failed to visit and find out where this freak was living and what he was doing, amazing, simply amazing.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know most of these so called â€œpolice/ parole officersâ€ always have a chip on their shoulders, and even when they fail to do their jobs they appear arrogant like saying â€œwhat are you going to doâ€, letâ€™s face it she who save herself, she was not save by the authorities.  Does anyone believe that the authorities were investigating her disappearance?  The car used in her kidnapping was in the backyard, the lazy ass cops didnâ€™t even bother to go through the backyard when the information indicated that kids were living back there, they didnâ€™t check local schools to see if the kids were going to school or even asked to see the kids, no report to child protective services, boy how lazy can you be and still pick up your public service check, not to mention the parole officers who failed to visit and find out where this freak was living and what he was doing, amazing, simply amazing.  </p>
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		<title>By: J France</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-578823</link>
		<dc:creator>J France</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian: Here at BoingBoing we welcome your comments, unless we dont, then we&#039;ll get disproportionately defensive, because how dare you don&#039;t happily mutate along &lt;i&gt;the exact same lines&lt;/i&gt; as everyone else here?

Now... was my comment weird and/or wonderful? I need a flowchart to work out if it actually belongs here or not. 

Why must my internets be so hard?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian: Here at BoingBoing we welcome your comments, unless we dont, then we&#8217;ll get disproportionately defensive, because how dare you don&#8217;t happily mutate along <i>the exact same lines</i> as everyone else here?</p>
<p>Now&#8230; was my comment weird and/or wonderful? I need a flowchart to work out if it actually belongs here or not. </p>
<p>Why must my internets be so hard?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577800</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian Holmes - gawking is a natural reponse, which our better selves strive to resist...  I think the authorities in Gloucester were wise to demolish the West&#039;s house and turn the site into a garden...  perhaps this will happen here too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian Holmes &#8211; gawking is a natural reponse, which our better selves strive to resist&#8230;  I think the authorities in Gloucester were wise to demolish the West&#8217;s house and turn the site into a garden&#8230;  perhaps this will happen here too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-578568</link>
		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to wonder why the police or parole officers never apparently used Google maps or Microsoft Live&#039;s... oh, Bing.com&#039;s cool panoramic birds-eye aerial photo feature. 

so &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&amp;FORM=LMLTCP&amp;cp=qb18zg4vk52c&amp;style=b&amp;lvl=1&amp;tilt=-90&amp;dir=0&amp;alt=-1000&amp;phx=0&amp;phy=0&amp;phscl=1&amp;scene=7884951&amp;encType=1&quot;&gt;here&#039;s my contribution to the rodeo. &lt;/a&gt;

and Ian, you warm my heart. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder why the police or parole officers never apparently used Google maps or Microsoft Live&#8217;s&#8230; oh, Bing.com&#8217;s cool panoramic birds-eye aerial photo feature. </p>
<p>so <a href="http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&#038;FORM=LMLTCP&#038;cp=qb18zg4vk52c&#038;style=b&#038;lvl=1&#038;tilt=-90&#038;dir=0&#038;alt=-1000&#038;phx=0&#038;phy=0&#038;phscl=1&#038;scene=7884951&#038;encType=1">here&#8217;s my contribution to the rodeo. </a></p>
<p>and Ian, you warm my heart. </p>
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		<title>By: icky2000</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577814</link>
		<dc:creator>icky2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ XENI &amp; ANTINOUS: I too don&#039;t get the &quot;why did you post this&quot; arguments. It&#039;s your blog so do what you want. However, I&#039;m less clear about referring to the police as incompetent (Xeni) or noting that convicted felons do/should have fewer rights (Antinuous). 

We&#039;ve heard other stories about kids not getting saved from horrible environments when social services or the police failed to follow up on a solid lead but I&#039;ve not read about any of that happening here. So how were the police incompetent exactly? They are supposed to assume that everyone with a tent in the backyard is a rapist? If the freakin&#039; neighbors didn&#039;t know this was going on while they lived 10 feet away from it for 18 years, how would you expect the police to know? If your answer is that there should be some program for investigating all convicted felons or rapists then fine, that&#039;s an argument for your local legislator but still has nothing to do with the police who don&#039;t write laws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ XENI &#038; ANTINOUS: I too don&#8217;t get the &#8220;why did you post this&#8221; arguments. It&#8217;s your blog so do what you want. However, I&#8217;m less clear about referring to the police as incompetent (Xeni) or noting that convicted felons do/should have fewer rights (Antinuous). </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve heard other stories about kids not getting saved from horrible environments when social services or the police failed to follow up on a solid lead but I&#8217;ve not read about any of that happening here. So how were the police incompetent exactly? They are supposed to assume that everyone with a tent in the backyard is a rapist? If the freakin&#8217; neighbors didn&#8217;t know this was going on while they lived 10 feet away from it for 18 years, how would you expect the police to know? If your answer is that there should be some program for investigating all convicted felons or rapists then fine, that&#8217;s an argument for your local legislator but still has nothing to do with the police who don&#8217;t write laws.</p>
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		<title>By: its_called_liberty</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577817</link>
		<dc:creator>its_called_liberty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who cares about controlling sound? JOHNROWLEY can control internet flame wars with his mind!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares about controlling sound? JOHNROWLEY can control internet flame wars with his mind!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577823</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antinous @ 30: 

MetaFilter commenters &quot;nailed it&quot; on 8/27. Not sure what that proves, but you seemed to think it was important.

http://www.metafilter.com/84522/Lost-and-Found#2714910</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antinous @ 30: </p>
<p>MetaFilter commenters &#8220;nailed it&#8221; on 8/27. Not sure what that proves, but you seemed to think it was important.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.metafilter.com/84522/Lost-and-Found#2714910" rel="nofollow">http://www.metafilter.com/84522/Lost-and-Found#2714910</a></p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577827</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;noting that convicted felons do/should have fewer rights&lt;/i&gt;

But, in fact, they do. If you&#039;re on parole, you&#039;re actually a non-incarcerated prisoner. They&#039;re even exempt from the 13th Amendment: &quot;Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.&quot; 

Convicted felons on parole generally can&#039;t vote, serve on a jury, bear arms and various and sundry other civil rights guaranteed in the Constitution. They don&#039;t have a &#039;get out of search and seizure free&#039; card like the rest of us. I find this rather prudent. And I would expect that a reasonable society would put a convicted kidnapper and rapist on life parole.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>noting that convicted felons do/should have fewer rights</i></p>
<p>But, in fact, they do. If you&#8217;re on parole, you&#8217;re actually a non-incarcerated prisoner. They&#8217;re even exempt from the 13th Amendment: &#8220;Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.&#8221; </p>
<p>Convicted felons on parole generally can&#8217;t vote, serve on a jury, bear arms and various and sundry other civil rights guaranteed in the Constitution. They don&#8217;t have a &#8216;get out of search and seizure free&#8217; card like the rest of us. I find this rather prudent. And I would expect that a reasonable society would put a convicted kidnapper and rapist on life parole.</p>
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		<title>By: senorglory</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577834</link>
		<dc:creator>senorglory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s interesting that google street view caught pics of the scene and the van, not because of my interest in gawking at crimes, but my interest in all things internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s interesting that google street view caught pics of the scene and the van, not because of my interest in gawking at crimes, but my interest in all things internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Architexas</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577839</link>
		<dc:creator>Architexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@24

As I read it (on BBC I think?  Could have been CNN, I read too many news sources at lunch), the police went to his property not to check on the tents, but because a neighbor had reported seeing children on the property and was a wee bit suspicious as a result.

You know, seeing as he was a convicted rapist.

The police went out supposedly to check the property, didn&#039;t check the backyard with all those tents and sheds, and left.

That&#039;s where the &quot;incompetency&quot; claim comes into play.

That said, it doesn&#039;t matter which way you &quot;turn&quot; the Googlemobile once you leave the street, the van doesn&#039;t follow you, or at least not with the permutations of potential routes I followed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@24</p>
<p>As I read it (on BBC I think?  Could have been CNN, I read too many news sources at lunch), the police went to his property not to check on the tents, but because a neighbor had reported seeing children on the property and was a wee bit suspicious as a result.</p>
<p>You know, seeing as he was a convicted rapist.</p>
<p>The police went out supposedly to check the property, didn&#8217;t check the backyard with all those tents and sheds, and left.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s where the &#8220;incompetency&#8221; claim comes into play.</p>
<p>That said, it doesn&#8217;t matter which way you &#8220;turn&#8221; the Googlemobile once you leave the street, the van doesn&#8217;t follow you, or at least not with the permutations of potential routes I followed.</p>
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		<title>By: theawesomerobot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577840</link>
		<dc:creator>theawesomerobot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s incredibly unfair to call the police involved here incompetent. 

As far as I know - having various tents in your back yard isn&#039;t considered probable cause for an investigation, convicted felon or not. 

This guy was a felon on parole, but he still has a decent amount of rights - and unfortunately those rights allowed him to commit these crimes. I think the blame here falls more on the judicial system that allowed this guy to be put back on the streets far more than law enforcement itself. 

People, for some reason, love to think that the police just walk around tasing people to death - but the reality of it is that there are tens of thousands of them out there following the procedures, doing their jobs, and putting themselves at risk to protect some of the most ungrateful people on the planet. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s incredibly unfair to call the police involved here incompetent. </p>
<p>As far as I know &#8211; having various tents in your back yard isn&#8217;t considered probable cause for an investigation, convicted felon or not. </p>
<p>This guy was a felon on parole, but he still has a decent amount of rights &#8211; and unfortunately those rights allowed him to commit these crimes. I think the blame here falls more on the judicial system that allowed this guy to be put back on the streets far more than law enforcement itself. </p>
<p>People, for some reason, love to think that the police just walk around tasing people to death &#8211; but the reality of it is that there are tens of thousands of them out there following the procedures, doing their jobs, and putting themselves at risk to protect some of the most ungrateful people on the planet. </p>
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		<title>By: JIMWICh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577843</link>
		<dc:creator>JIMWICh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; #33 posted by Ian Holmes, August 31, 2009 4:57 PM
&gt; ...Jimwich and others, I take your point that many
&gt; readers may actually just enjoy the simple macabre
&gt; obsession for what it is, but (running with this
&gt; for a moment) surely the reactions of shock and
&gt; outrage from less-macabre straight people (like me?)
&gt; are part of what makes that fun?

Heh. No, sadly, comments like yours are, I&quot;m afraid, distinctly unfun and most definitely not part of what I enjoy about bOING bOING.

I can&#039;t be alone among the many old school fans &#039;n pals that constantly wonder why the comment threads here so often go off the rails.  Back in the &#039;zine days we used to refer to nORMALs and other distinctly unhappy mutants.

And I&#039;ll also bet that I&#039;m not the only one who&#039;s wondered if somehow the comment threads of bOING bOING and Reddit somehow got switched in the nursery.  Since when I read Reddit comment threads I always think that they are exactly what I would imagine the comment threads here *ought* to be like.  And yet often aren&#039;t for some confounded reason.

[scratches noggin]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> #33 posted by Ian Holmes, August 31, 2009 4:57 PM<br />
> &#8230;Jimwich and others, I take your point that many<br />
> readers may actually just enjoy the simple macabre<br />
> obsession for what it is, but (running with this<br />
> for a moment) surely the reactions of shock and<br />
> outrage from less-macabre straight people (like me?)<br />
> are part of what makes that fun?</p>
<p>Heh. No, sadly, comments like yours are, I&#8221;m afraid, distinctly unfun and most definitely not part of what I enjoy about bOING bOING.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t be alone among the many old school fans &#8216;n pals that constantly wonder why the comment threads here so often go off the rails.  Back in the &#8216;zine days we used to refer to nORMALs and other distinctly unhappy mutants.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ll also bet that I&#8217;m not the only one who&#8217;s wondered if somehow the comment threads of bOING bOING and Reddit somehow got switched in the nursery.  Since when I read Reddit comment threads I always think that they are exactly what I would imagine the comment threads here *ought* to be like.  And yet often aren&#8217;t for some confounded reason.</p>
<p>[scratches noggin]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>Hm. I saw the google car driving near my place one day, and actually came down the lane to our farm. although it was the GPS mapping one, as opposed to street view, i still thought it was pretty exciting, and followed him briefly to see what his set up was.

tried to explain it to my father, who then got the impression that it was some little spycar taking photos of his property and machinery (possibly to report to the local council or tax department...?) and went to talk to the &#039;google man&#039;, who got scared and hooned off before dad could get to him! So i presume that somewhere near our place the road abruptly does a U-turn and bolts!

(ps, i dont live in a tent, and he is my real father!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm. I saw the google car driving near my place one day, and actually came down the lane to our farm. although it was the GPS mapping one, as opposed to street view, i still thought it was pretty exciting, and followed him briefly to see what his set up was.</p>
<p>tried to explain it to my father, who then got the impression that it was some little spycar taking photos of his property and machinery (possibly to report to the local council or tax department&#8230;?) and went to talk to the &#8216;google man&#8217;, who got scared and hooned off before dad could get to him! So i presume that somewhere near our place the road abruptly does a U-turn and bolts!</p>
<p>(ps, i dont live in a tent, and he is my real father!)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>Why are some people fascinated by such stories?  Sometimes the interest seems almost prurient.  And in a way, maybe it is.  

I suspect that some (almost always men) deep down, almost wish, in ways they could never acknowledge even to themselves, that they too could have a compliant victim.  A sex slave, if you will, but more than that, a human being who is entirely in their control.  

Sick?  Today, that&#039;s how it&#039;s viewed, but just look at all the historical cultures in which slavery -- the total control of another human being -- was an accepted norm.

Reading about others&#039; crimes might give such a person a little vicarious thrill, easily masked -- even to themselves -- by their righteous indignation at the heinous nature of the crime.  

I&#039;m not denigrating such people.  This may even benefit society, in a way.  I suspect that it helps to keep them disciplined, ensuring that they never really act on these vague, unsettling desires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are some people fascinated by such stories?  Sometimes the interest seems almost prurient.  And in a way, maybe it is.  </p>
<p>I suspect that some (almost always men) deep down, almost wish, in ways they could never acknowledge even to themselves, that they too could have a compliant victim.  A sex slave, if you will, but more than that, a human being who is entirely in their control.  </p>
<p>Sick?  Today, that&#8217;s how it&#8217;s viewed, but just look at all the historical cultures in which slavery &#8212; the total control of another human being &#8212; was an accepted norm.</p>
<p>Reading about others&#8217; crimes might give such a person a little vicarious thrill, easily masked &#8212; even to themselves &#8212; by their righteous indignation at the heinous nature of the crime.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not denigrating such people.  This may even benefit society, in a way.  I suspect that it helps to keep them disciplined, ensuring that they never really act on these vague, unsettling desires.</p>
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		<title>By: Takuan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-578106</link>
		<dc:creator>Takuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>enjoy the Door-sills of the Equator!</description>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-578108</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I slept on it.  The incompetent cheap shot was still uncalled for.  I realize it&#039;s hard to stifle the urge to flog the police twice a day, but if they had searched his property, then the story would have gone all ACLU giddy.  If you take the time to read how he was caught, I&#039;d say the authorities should be COMMENDED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I slept on it.  The incompetent cheap shot was still uncalled for.  I realize it&#8217;s hard to stifle the urge to flog the police twice a day, but if they had searched his property, then the story would have gone all ACLU giddy.  If you take the time to read how he was caught, I&#8217;d say the authorities should be COMMENDED.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-578113</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: police incompetence. (Or was it just a mistake?)

The sheriff actually apologized for this....if he apologized, there&#039;s a reason (and good on him for doing so).

In my experience most police never apologize. They seem to live by what John Wayne once said: &quot;Never apologize. It makes you seem weak&quot;.

The apology, itself, made headlines in my neck of the great North woods. It is really quite rare for the police to publicly apologize: and when they do, they ought to at least be commended for it.

And therefore do I comment here: so to commend them therefor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: police incompetence. (Or was it just a mistake?)</p>
<p>The sheriff actually apologized for this&#8230;.if he apologized, there&#8217;s a reason (and good on him for doing so).</p>
<p>In my experience most police never apologize. They seem to live by what John Wayne once said: &#8220;Never apologize. It makes you seem weak&#8221;.</p>
<p>The apology, itself, made headlines in my neck of the great North woods. It is really quite rare for the police to publicly apologize: and when they do, they ought to at least be commended for it.</p>
<p>And therefore do I comment here: so to commend them therefor.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-578119</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After all,the police here simply were not suspicious enough.

All good cops IMO are suspicious of others. As they should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After all,the police here simply were not suspicious enough.</p>
<p>All good cops IMO are suspicious of others. As they should be.</p>
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		<title>By: emilydickinsonridesabmx</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577867</link>
		<dc:creator>emilydickinsonridesabmx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be interesting to crowd source a project to count how often other vehicles appear behind the Google cam car, for how long, etc. Just to see if this something that is mundane statistically. 

I realize that would be a very boring project to undertake, at least the car counting end of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be interesting to crowd source a project to count how often other vehicles appear behind the Google cam car, for how long, etc. Just to see if this something that is mundane statistically. </p>
<p>I realize that would be a very boring project to undertake, at least the car counting end of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Holmes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-578126</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimwich, are you kidding? Ravers weren&#039;t responsible. I had to start going to Burning Man before I saw anything like that in the counterculture.

OTOH, many of the 60&#039;s- and 70&#039;s-era hippies seem profoundly concerned with their dooty to the planet. So, maybe your generation of irresponsible zine readers is the outlier.

We are talking about the 80&#039;s, right? Might explain it. I was wildly pirating 8-bit computer games back then. I was about as responsible as Ebola.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimwich, are you kidding? Ravers weren&#8217;t responsible. I had to start going to Burning Man before I saw anything like that in the counterculture.</p>
<p>OTOH, many of the 60&#8242;s- and 70&#8242;s-era hippies seem profoundly concerned with their dooty to the planet. So, maybe your generation of irresponsible zine readers is the outlier.</p>
<p>We are talking about the 80&#8242;s, right? Might explain it. I was wildly pirating 8-bit computer games back then. I was about as responsible as Ebola.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Holmes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577872</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Xeni

I apologize for expressing my personal discomfort in such a muddled outpouring. Thank you (and Antinous, and several commenters) for patiently explaining the flowchart and giving me space to figure out what I wanted to say in a non-offensive way.

I regret the accusations of prurience/exploitation/etc and also that they may have undermined the deeper and simpler point that I was trying to get at, which was expressed much more clearly by Anon@36:

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gawking is a natural reponse, which our better selves strive to resist... I think the authorities in Gloucester were wise to demolish the West&#039;s house and turn the site into a garden... perhaps this will happen here too...
&lt;/i&gt;

As for Jimwich @44, I appreciate your efforts to defend and define a cherished space, you old-school zine-scener. I came of age in the 90&#039;s rave scene, and believe in radical inclusion &amp; self-expression, but also civic responsibility. Sometimes you find yourself teasing apart conflicts between such values, and a little patience never hurts with those who are working their way through such issues; confusion can happen to any of us, from time to time, and I doubt that anyone is immune from such philosophical puzzles just because they know the k00l places to hang out. Like Reddit. (FWIW, I think friendfeed is more interesting because real collaborative science is actually happening there, but I digress)

Here are the comments of Takuan&#039;s and Xeni&#039;s that I mentioned, from the Jonestown post. I think they are quite wonderful

http://boingboing.net/2008/11/19/jonestown-30-years-l-2.html#comment-334807

Even mutants can freak out and it is an enlightened countercultural community that gently sets them straight rather than tearing them to bits like piranhas -- I&#039;m glad the latter did not happen here -- thanks BB commenters for your understanding
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Xeni</p>
<p>I apologize for expressing my personal discomfort in such a muddled outpouring. Thank you (and Antinous, and several commenters) for patiently explaining the flowchart and giving me space to figure out what I wanted to say in a non-offensive way.</p>
<p>I regret the accusations of prurience/exploitation/etc and also that they may have undermined the deeper and simpler point that I was trying to get at, which was expressed much more clearly by Anon@36:</p>
<p><i><br />
gawking is a natural reponse, which our better selves strive to resist&#8230; I think the authorities in Gloucester were wise to demolish the West&#8217;s house and turn the site into a garden&#8230; perhaps this will happen here too&#8230;</p>
<p>As for Jimwich @44, I appreciate your efforts to defend and define a cherished space, you old-school zine-scener. I came of age in the 90&#8242;s rave scene, and believe in radical inclusion &#038; self-expression, but also civic responsibility. Sometimes you find yourself teasing apart conflicts between such values, and a little patience never hurts with those who are working their way through such issues; confusion can happen to any of us, from time to time, and I doubt that anyone is immune from such philosophical puzzles just because they know the k00l places to hang out. Like Reddit. (FWIW, I think friendfeed is more interesting because real collaborative science is actually happening there, but I digress)</p>
<p>Here are the comments of Takuan&#8217;s and Xeni&#8217;s that I mentioned, from the Jonestown post. I think they are quite wonderful</p>
<p><a href="http://boingboing.net/2008/11/19/jonestown-30-years-l-2.html#comment-334807" rel="nofollow">http://boingboing.net/2008/11/19/jonestown-30-years-l-2.html#comment-334807</a></p>
<p>Even mutants can freak out and it is an enlightened countercultural community that gently sets them straight rather than tearing them to bits like piranhas &#8212; I&#8217;m glad the latter did not happen here &#8212; thanks BB commenters for your understanding<br />
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		<title>By: Ian Holmes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577874</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Counting cars. *shudders* Now THAT&#039;S macabre.</description>
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		<title>By: Ian Holmes</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-578130</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve @56

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If you take the time to read how he was caught, I&#039;d say the authorities should be COMMENDED.
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go go UC Berkeley police! perhaps people will stop being so down on them now, for trying to haul that longhair student off campus in 1964.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve @56</p>
<p><i><br />
If you take the time to read how he was caught, I&#8217;d say the authorities should be COMMENDED.<br />
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<p>go go UC Berkeley police! perhaps people will stop being so down on them now, for trying to haul that longhair student off campus in 1964.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-578139</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first day this story broke, I Googled around to find this guy&#039;s address, then used Google Maps to get an overhead view of the guy&#039;s place. The article I read said that no officials saw anything untoward in the backyard, but all that stuff back there would have raised an eyebrow with me if I were a PO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first day this story broke, I Googled around to find this guy&#8217;s address, then used Google Maps to get an overhead view of the guy&#8217;s place. The article I read said that no officials saw anything untoward in the backyard, but all that stuff back there would have raised an eyebrow with me if I were a PO.</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577641</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This guy is a genuine scary monster, a genuine super-creep....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHywdqH3F6Y

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is a genuine scary monster, a genuine super-creep&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHywdqH3F6Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHywdqH3F6Y</a></p>
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		<title>By: kateblack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-580457</link>
		<dc:creator>kateblack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh look! CNN found this story too, with no attribution. 

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/09/03/oppmann.google.suspect.cnn</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh look! CNN found this story too, with no attribution. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/09/03/oppmann.google.suspect.cnn" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2009/09/03/oppmann.google.suspect.cnn</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-577646</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boy oh boy, after 8 years finally make a my first comment, and it makes a secondary blurb, AND co-incidentally that day i had put on my boingboing &#039;bunbun&#039; tshirt on for the first time. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boy oh boy, after 8 years finally make a my first comment, and it makes a secondary blurb, AND co-incidentally that day i had put on my boingboing &#8216;bunbun&#8217; tshirt on for the first time. </p>
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		<title>By: jahknow</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/08/31/did-google-street-vi.html#comment-583025</link>
		<dc:creator>jahknow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still not convinced that it isn&#039;t the 4chan Party Van....</description>
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