Afghanistan: vodka "butt shots," group fondling, other pastimes of defense contractors guarding US embassy

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  1. 2k says:

    @mojave

    Feetals Gizz Clyde!

    It’s them BASTICHS ya wanna steer clear of.

    luv,

    yer’ main man,

    2k

  2. Keneke says:

    Fondling each other? I’d call that one a non-issue if it was consensual.

  3. coldspell says:

    The irony is that many of these are probably homophobes.

  4. Anonymous says:

    If I won the lottery tomorrow, I would buy this company, just so I could fire everyone.

  5. ackpht says:

    Outsourcing is really a way to make sure that no one is held accountable for how well a job is done. Everyone gets paid, but no one’s responsible.

  6. monkeygirl says:

    Isn’t the real point here that it’s not consensual? That the vodka shots and fondling are a form of hazing and qualify as harassment? I’d guess there would be more than few lawsuits if this were taking place in the U.S.

  7. Antinous / Moderator says:

    They’re doing butt crack shots and we have a picture of a sign and a bench? I feel cheated.

  8. Xeni Jardin says:

    I’m workin on it, bub.

  9. Phikus says:

    The prison industrial complex at business as usual. When will we stop outsourcing to this inevitable conclusion? When will we halt profiting off the the subjugation and misery of others?

  10. Marcel says:

    They’re not f#cking up the local population, and that alone makes them eligable for a medal in my opinion.

  11. Jack Daniel says:

    It takes 2 to have a vodka butt shot.

  12. Anonymous says:

    peeing on people?
    eating potato chips out of butt cracks?
    vodka shots out of butt cracks?

    sounds like they’ve repealed Don’t Ask / Don’t Tell.

  13. Boba Fett Diop says:

    They saw all the media attention that Blackwater/Xe was getting and decided to up their game. This can only end one way: the Pinkerton Agency staging an all-singing, all-dancing community theater version of Caligula.

  14. BookGuy says:

    If you can’t do vodka butt shots, then why would you even want to be a defense contractor?

  15. EricT says:

    This is exactly why we must keep our armed forces under the thumb of the UCJ. And to claim that these are private contractors and not our armed forces you are wrong.
    These men and woman bear arms in and around a combat zone protecting (at least in this case) the US embassy. I seem to recall that job being so important that we could only trust the Marines to do it.
    There is a parallel here to the current Healthcare debate. Privitization vs government run systems. Or in the FOX vernacular Socialism.
    The point is some things are too important to be left up to for profit entities.
    And in this case it is our armed forces. If we need the bodies to continue to prosecute the war and to protect our diplomatic interests, then it is time to draft the best and brightest again. but to put this duty to the whims of a board room reeks of disaster.
    If these for profit boys and girls want to go play soldier, then put on a fucking uniform and take responsibility for your actions.

  16. Takuan says:

    “then put on a fucking uniform and take responsibility for your actions.” the irony being that a uniform absolves you of murder.

  17. Phikus says:

    Marcel@~4: Oh? So fucking with the prisoners is ok in your book? Last I heard there were laws against cruel and unusual punishment. Maybe you should spend some time in a cell and get regularly mistreated as described. Perhaps your opinion then would be more informed.

    Erict@~10: Indeed.

  18. popnwave says:

    Sounds like most frat house activities. Stupid… you bet…criminal not so much.

  19. Brewtown says:

    Phikus,
    These aren’t prison guards. These are contractors guarding an embassy. They are presumably doing all of this stuff to each other, not to prisoners.

    Certainly not professional behavior, but if these contractors want to fuck with each other in a war zone, I’m not going to be too overly critical…

  20. EricT says:

    #11
    Murder is defined as unjustified homicide. EG thou shall not kill is really thou shall not murder.
    soldiers kill sometimes we are justified in sending them off to do so. Sometimes not. The bottom line is that the soldier cannot be accountable for killing in a combat zone unless it killing was agregious EG picking off innocent bystanders that are trying to get out of harms way VS picking off combatants.
    Sure the line gets blurry and crossed but that is the reason for the military structure and chain of command.
    Peace would be better. It is always better. But that simply is not the case over there and to exacerbate the situation by putting our weapons in the hands of mercenaries is fool hardy.
    There is no way to hold any of them accountable for misbehavior.
    At least there is a chance of holding the leaders of our military accountable for thier misbehavior. Small as that may seem at times. Military justice is pretty harsh. It is what instills discipline.

  21. Phikus says:

    My mistake. I see the name Wackenhut and I see red after the fun my friend had under their “care”, which resembled these shenanigans (urination and beatings.) I see now that it is a part of their work culture. Sad.

    My apologies to Marcel (though I disagree this as medal-worthy.)

  22. mortis says:

    #10: Do you mean UCMJ?

    ^m^

  23. DWittSF says:

    Abu Ghraib was ‘just a bunch of harmless frat pranks’ too.

  24. EricT says:

    Yes, yes I did. I was just so caught up in my own outrage. :)

  25. IWood says:

    Dean Vernon Wormer: Greg, what is the worst private security contractor in Kabul?

    Greg Marmalard: Well that would be hard to say, sir. They’re each outstanding in their own way.

    Dean Vernon Wormer: Cut the horseshit, son. I’ve got their disciplinary files right here. Who dropped a whole truckload of fizzies into the swim meet? Who delivered the medical school cadavers to the alumni dinner? Every Halloween, the trees are filled with underwear. Every spring, the toilets explode.

    Greg Marmalard: You’re talking about Wackenhut, sir.

    Dean Vernon Wormer: Of course I’m talking about Wackenhut, you TWERP!

  26. Anonymous says:

    The hazing and photos of hazing is so these guys can be blackmailed into doing things they shouldn’t be doing.

  27. J France says:

    War in general would be considerably less abhorent if the people involved treated what was happening with an ounce respect – an understanding that their very presence may be blurring lines of morals and ethics.

    Not: hey, we’re at war, vodka butt shots! Lets touch each others cocks!

    Anon at 23 has the saddest point about all of this: it’s more frivilous BS to distract from more important issues. Such as: Why private contractors have no place doing ANY external defense work (or internal, but keep the corruption within your country and I won’t comment.)

  28. Anonymous says:

    As a defense contractor who has deployed to Kuwait and Iraq 8 times since 2003 with over 2 years in theater I find this appalling nor have I ever witnessed anything like it.

    Defense contractors do fall under UCMJ while in theater. Perhaps since these Bozos work for the embassy they loophole out of it but I doubt it.

    I would like to point out that this is not even close to the norm. Defense contractors tend to be skilled, hardworking, and disciplined. American contractors are almost exclusively prior service military most who have retired after honored service. While not perfect, we serve at the whim of the service and at any dissatisfaction with our performance or behavior on the part of the military can and will be asked to leave the country (and almost certainly our employment) in a very expeditious manner. I just wanted to point out that this is an aberration and not the norm.

  29. Afterthought says:

    This is what is called “victory”.

  30. Takuan says:

    you mean basic training?

  31. busydoingnothing says:

    Penny pics or it didn’t happen.

  32. Anonymous says:

    They left off the part at the end, where one guy says “We call our act ‘The Aristocrats’”

  33. Anonymous says:

    This is actually a brilliant smokescreen, someone at their company figured out that if they engage in some fraternity style bullshit it will completely distract people from any real issue. The american popular culture will obsess over a vodka butt shot to the expense of investigating real problems every time.

    What they drink and from where is the least of my concern with these bozos.

  34. consideredopinion says:

    It seems anytime humans are put into a walled compound with opaque public oversight, the “Stanford Experiment” is almost always repeated.

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