Comments on: GRISTLEISM: Throbbing Gristle's unusual new "box set" http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 18 May 2013 22:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-666900 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666900 TIBET not china!!! TIBET not china!!!

]]> By: 3lbFlax http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-601110 3lbFlax Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-601110 @10: I have several Buddha Machines (four v1s and two v2s) and recording the speaker output is invariably more interesting and fun than using the audio out. Of course it'd be a nice option to have available as a mic isn't suitable for all purposes, but I think the integrated speaker is the most vital feature of the BM. The Machine works best, for me, when it's droning away alongside the ambient sounds of its environment, which usually 'soften' the occasionally harsh output of the BM's circuits. Gristleism preordered, obviously. @10: I have several Buddha Machines (four v1s and two v2s) and recording the speaker output is invariably more interesting and fun than using the audio out.

Of course it’d be a nice option to have available as a mic isn’t suitable for all purposes, but I think the integrated speaker is the most vital feature of the BM. The Machine works best, for me, when it’s droning away alongside the ambient sounds of its environment, which usually ‘soften’ the occasionally harsh output of the BM’s circuits.

Gristleism preordered, obviously.

]]> By: rexdude http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-601385 rexdude Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-601385 I've seen similar things here in India- boxes that play a loop of Hindu shlokas (prayer verses), with some 50-100 of them pre-recorded. I’ve seen similar things here in India- boxes that play a loop of Hindu shlokas (prayer verses), with some 50-100 of them pre-recorded.

]]> By: bunnyman2112 http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-601207 bunnyman2112 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-601207 Well, I already have a Buddha Box v1, v2, and iTouch and *love* them! But I also own a Nintendo DSi and am planning to try this: Drop a TG sample onto a SD card (must be AAC format), and use the DSi internal processor to loop. The DSi already has pitch and speed distortors, along with some other fun audio toys, so it's *kinda* like a Gristleism, sorta... Only I can play with it now and don't have to spend the 25 pounds and wait till December... Well, I already have a Buddha Box v1, v2, and iTouch and *love* them! But I also own a Nintendo DSi and am planning to try this: Drop a TG sample onto a SD card (must be AAC format), and use the DSi internal processor to loop. The DSi already has pitch and speed distortors, along with some other fun audio toys, so it’s *kinda* like a Gristleism, sorta… Only I can play with it now and don’t have to spend the 25 pounds and wait till December…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-600714 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-600714 FM3 is not a company. It is actually a musical duo of Zhang Jian and Christiaan Virant. The latter has contributed to compilations for the awesome music label Sublime Frequencie. There's an interview of Mr. Virant that is floating around that the manufacturer of the Buddha Boxes is the same one that make the original prayer versions. FM3 is not a company. It is actually a musical duo of Zhang Jian and Christiaan Virant. The latter has contributed to compilations for the awesome music label Sublime Frequencie. There’s an interview of Mr. Virant that is floating around that the manufacturer of the Buddha Boxes is the same one that make the original prayer versions.

]]> By: sultan_alhazred http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-600725 sultan_alhazred Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-600725 If you want to hear what sort of insanely great results can be had from playing with these things, check out Robert Henke's "Layering Buddha": http://www.monolake.de/concerts/layering_buddha.html If you want to hear what sort of insanely great results can be had from playing with these things, check out Robert Henke’s “Layering Buddha”: http://www.monolake.de/concerts/layering_buddha.html

]]> By: philipb http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-600726 philipb Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-600726 FM3 are an experimental/ambient band from China (http://www.fm3.com.cn/). Other innovations from them include the album Mort Aux Vaches which came in a hand made fabric case. The chants can also be downloaded from their website for a chanting mashup of your own. The Buddha Machine is available for the iPhone/iPod touch too. FM3 are an experimental/ambient band from China (http://www.fm3.com.cn/). Other innovations from them include the album Mort Aux Vaches which came in a hand made fabric case.

The chants can also be downloaded from their website for a chanting mashup of your own.

The Buddha Machine is available for the iPhone/iPod touch too.

]]> By: grimc http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-600730 grimc Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-600730 iirc, the buddha machines aren't hipster remakes, but originated from fm3. Okay, they're still hipster, but not remakes. iirc, the buddha machines aren’t hipster remakes, but originated from fm3.

Okay, they’re still hipster, but not remakes.

]]> By: angrydroid http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-601255 angrydroid Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-601255 Oooh! Cool. High circuit-bending potential here. Oooh! Cool. High circuit-bending potential here.

]]> By: Malgwyn http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-672423 Malgwyn Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-672423 If you are an American, fer godz sakes, don't buy your Gristle box from England (Dangerous Minds sends you to Cargo UK) Get it from Forced Exposure in the USA. The dollar to Euro isn't favorable; it translates to over $40, when you could get it for under $30. You can't shut it off(unless you remove the batteries), it scares the shit out of animals and children. It's the perfect object for dealing with telemarketers; they just think that there is something wrong with the phone connection. If you are an American, fer godz sakes, don’t buy your Gristle box from England (Dangerous Minds sends you to Cargo UK) Get it from Forced Exposure in the USA. The dollar to Euro isn’t favorable; it translates to over $40, when you could get it for under $30.

You can’t shut it off(unless you remove the batteries), it scares the shit out of animals and children. It’s the perfect object for dealing with telemarketers; they just think that there is something wrong with the phone connection.

]]> By: Toby http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-601259 Toby Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-601259 @10 - At a guess, the point is to encourage fans to buy a novel but largely useless toy (discouraging public performance is an added benefit). I can't say I've gotten much more than a half-hour's worth of amusement out of my FM3 box, but it is conceptually appealling. @10 – At a guess, the point is to encourage fans to buy a novel but largely useless toy (discouraging public performance is an added benefit).

I can’t say I’ve gotten much more than a half-hour’s worth of amusement out of my FM3 box, but it is conceptually appealling.

]]> By: godfathersoul http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-601027 godfathersoul Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-601027 "iirc, the buddha machines aren't hipster remakes, but originated from fm3." Actually, the buddha boxes originated in China where you'd get these little boxes that play a repeating buddhist chant. Thunderbolt Books in Santa Monica used to give them away if you asked. I have a couple that i like just for the niftiness. I have one that is sort of plain black with a bit of writing on it - like the red FM3 box - and then another that's rounded at one end with a white Quan Yin on it. Sorta nice tho the chants are a bit nasally sounding. A friend of mine gave me one of FM3's Buddha Machines four or five years ago and I love it. I certainly like it better than the chants and it's great to take traveling... a bit of soft sound to drown out the sometimes cacophonous surroundings, especially in the morning. “iirc, the buddha machines aren’t hipster remakes, but originated from fm3.”

Actually, the buddha boxes originated in China where you’d get these little boxes that play a repeating buddhist chant. Thunderbolt Books in Santa Monica used to give them away if you asked. I have a couple that i like just for the niftiness. I have one that is sort of plain black with a bit of writing on it – like the red FM3 box – and then another that’s rounded at one end with a white Quan Yin on it. Sorta nice tho the chants are a bit nasally sounding.

A friend of mine gave me one of FM3′s Buddha Machines four or five years ago and I love it. I certainly like it better than the chants and it’s great to take traveling… a bit of soft sound to drown out the sometimes cacophonous surroundings, especially in the morning.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-601037 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-601037 AH! This is AWESOME! AH! This is AWESOME!

]]> By: daemonsquire http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-600800 daemonsquire Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-600800 If you're interested in items like this, there's another recent entry into the game, Flingco Sound System's <a href="http://www.flingcosound.com/theblackbox.html">Black Box</a>: "Each handheld, tombstone-shaped soundbox contains loops from Cristal, Haptic and Wrnlrd plus two chilling spoken word pieces." It's nowhere near as... soothing (?), if that's the right word... maybe, I mean, as atmospherically rich, as the Buddha Machines, but it has its noisy charms. The vocal tracks stand out from the rest. "I will not kill myself... today", and "I can't feel anything", heavily processed, come out better than I imagine they sound in your head, having only read it here--they also give a good sense of the very different aesthetic at work, between these guys and the FM3 outfit. I'm sure TG will present something else entirely. There's always a new panorama in the world of plastic box sonic loops! It's worth calling people's attention, too, to Tristan Perich's <i>1-Bit Music</i>, about which Pesco <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2005/08/31/music_device_in_a_cd.html">has posted</a> previously. If you’re interested in items like this, there’s another recent entry into the game, Flingco Sound System’s Black Box: “Each handheld, tombstone-shaped soundbox contains loops from Cristal, Haptic and Wrnlrd plus two chilling spoken word pieces.”

It’s nowhere near as… soothing (?), if that’s the right word… maybe, I mean, as atmospherically rich, as the Buddha Machines, but it has its noisy charms. The vocal tracks stand out from the rest. “I will not kill myself… today”, and “I can’t feel anything”, heavily processed, come out better than I imagine they sound in your head, having only read it here–they also give a good sense of the very different aesthetic at work, between these guys and the FM3 outfit. I’m sure TG will present something else entirely. There’s always a new panorama in the world of plastic box sonic loops!

It’s worth calling people’s attention, too, to Tristan Perich’s 1-Bit Music, about which Pesco has posted previously.

]]> By: Thalia http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-600807 Thalia Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-600807 You can buy an iPhone app that is a Buddha machine for $2.99. It's not bad. You can buy an iPhone app that is a Buddha machine for $2.99. It’s not bad.

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-601067 EH Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-601067 PhilipB: Mort Aux Vaches is actually a Dutch label that releases albums all of a similar aesthetic. I'm pretty sure they only release one album per artist, so like there is a Ryoji Ikeda or Etant Donnes Mort Aux Vaches, FM3 also has one. PhilipB: Mort Aux Vaches is actually a Dutch label that releases albums all of a similar aesthetic. I’m pretty sure they only release one album per artist, so like there is a Ryoji Ikeda or Etant Donnes Mort Aux Vaches, FM3 also has one.

]]> By: BlueKephra http://boingboing.net/2009/09/29/gristleism-throbbing.html#comment-601083 BlueKephra Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-601083 The Gristleism box has no audio output, unlike the FM3 boxes. So if you wanted to do what Charlie Poulet was doing with several of them, you wouldn't be able to. So the question is: what's the point ? The Gristleism box has no audio output, unlike the FM3 boxes. So if you wanted to do what Charlie Poulet was doing with several of them, you wouldn’t be able to. So the question is: what’s the point ?

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