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		<title>By: Hakuin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1485653</link>
		<dc:creator>Hakuin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm </description>
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		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1461079</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 04:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See my reply.</description>
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		<title>By: Kimmo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1461078</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimmo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 04:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black=not a link, red=link - but I guess that was prolly a typo, if it wasn&#039;t the other way round for a bit at first.

Click on your avatar to go to your Discus profile page (actually, &lt;i&gt;anyone&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; avatar and profile page will work). At the top right you&#039;ll see your avatar and a drop-down arrow; mouseover to expose the Edit Profile link.

Second field in the pop-up, on the first Profile tab.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black=not a link, red=link &#8211; but I guess that was prolly a typo, if it wasn&#8217;t the other way round for a bit at first.</p>
<p>Click on your avatar to go to your Discus profile page (actually, <i>anyone&#8217;s</i> avatar and profile page will work). At the top right you&#8217;ll see your avatar and a drop-down arrow; mouseover to expose the Edit Profile link.</p>
<p>Second field in the pop-up, on the first Profile tab.</p>
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		<title>By: guanto</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1323235</link>
		<dc:creator>guanto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Antinous: regarding the thread belonging to the post &quot;Response to Boing Boing post on &quot;Police Pad&quot; gadgets in Georgia, from the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Georgia&quot;:

Several comments that disagreed with the author in the most respectful manner I&#039;ve ever seen were removed. They did not violate any of the rules above or tried to tell the author what to do; in fact, the one comment that directly insulted a fellow commenter remains.

In the interest of getting along here, could you be so kind as to clarify what exactly was so offensive about them?

Thank you very much in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antinous: regarding the thread belonging to the post &#8220;Response to Boing Boing post on &#8220;Police Pad&#8221; gadgets in Georgia, from the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Georgia&#8221;:</p>
<p>Several comments that disagreed with the author in the most respectful manner I&#8217;ve ever seen were removed. They did not violate any of the rules above or tried to tell the author what to do; in fact, the one comment that directly insulted a fellow commenter remains.</p>
<p>In the interest of getting along here, could you be so kind as to clarify what exactly was so offensive about them?</p>
<p>Thank you very much in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1310638</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just had it happen, too.  I was able to comment as a reply from the back side, but I couldn&#039;t get it to work from the front.  Very annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just had it happen, too.  I was able to comment as a reply from the back side, but I couldn&#8217;t get it to work from the front.  Very annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: IronEdithKidd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1310584</link>
		<dc:creator>IronEdithKidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried a good dozen times and gave up.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it don&#039;t.  I have cats that are more predictable.
 
Disqus is icky.  That is all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried a good dozen times and gave up.  Sometimes it works, sometimes it don&#8217;t.  I have cats that are more predictable.<br />
 <br />
Disqus is icky.  That is all.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1310555</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe just a Disqus hiccup?  Copy your comment and reload the page would be my only advice.  If it continues, e-mail me or contact Disqus if you have a Disqus account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe just a Disqus hiccup?  Copy your comment and reload the page would be my only advice.  If it continues, e-mail me or contact Disqus if you have a Disqus account.</p>
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		<title>By: IronEdithKidd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1310140</link>
		<dc:creator>IronEdithKidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that sometimes when you go to post a comment, hitting the &quot;post as...&quot; button doesn&#039;t do squat?  I&#039;m getting frustrated that I can&#039;t reply to some n00b on the latest NDAA thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that sometimes when you go to post a comment, hitting the &#8220;post as&#8230;&#8221; button doesn&#8217;t do squat?  I&#8217;m getting frustrated that I can&#8217;t reply to some n00b on the latest NDAA thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1298983</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 22:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a related note:  If you say &quot;first world problem&quot;, I&#039;ll ban you and when you complain about being banned, I&#039;ll tell you that it&#039;s a first world problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a related note:  If you say &#8220;first world problem&#8221;, I&#8217;ll ban you and when you complain about being banned, I&#8217;ll tell you that it&#8217;s a first world problem.</p>
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		<title>By: digi_owl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1298775</link>
		<dc:creator>digi_owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 18:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my one stop shop for such things is noscript. Especially once i learned about how to configure ABE. Now i have no facebook share/like buttons tracking me around the web for instance, but can still access facebook itself without having to enable or disable anything: http://noscript.net/abe/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my one stop shop for such things is noscript. Especially once i learned about how to configure ABE. Now i have no facebook share/like buttons tracking me around the web for instance, but can still access facebook itself without having to enable or disable anything: <a href="http://noscript.net/abe/" rel="nofollow">http://noscript.net/abe/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark_Frauenfelder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1298540</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark_Frauenfelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-1298540</guid>
		<description>Here&#039;s an addition to the policy: if you say &quot;meh&quot; in a comment, I&#039;ll probably delete it. If you say &quot;woo,&quot; I might delete it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an addition to the policy: if you say &#8220;meh&#8221; in a comment, I&#8217;ll probably delete it. If you say &#8220;woo,&#8221; I might delete it.</p>
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		<title>By: dnietz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1284339</link>
		<dc:creator>dnietz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 08:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, I don&#039;t see any way now to view my profile of comments and replies to my comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, I don&#8217;t see any way now to view my profile of comments and replies to my comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1232263</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the correct place for technical issues.</description>
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		<title>By: benenglish</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1232137</link>
		<dc:creator>benenglish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2011 14:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When not signed in, I click the &quot;Reply&quot; button, compose, click the &quot;Post as...&quot; button, then BB makes me sign in via popups before the post can proceed.  I do so then click the &quot;Post as benenglish&quot; button.  The post appears.

However, following that sequence of events, the &quot;In reply to ...&quot; text that should appear above my post is missing.

This is a possible problem or just my misunderstanding of the way things work, I don&#039;t know which.  Most likely the latter.

I thought you might like to know.  

PS - Since this is only tangentially related to moderation policy and I don&#039;t want to do any unintended threadjacking, please tell me if there&#039;s a more appropriate place to post observations such as these.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When not signed in, I click the &#8220;Reply&#8221; button, compose, click the &#8220;Post as&#8230;&#8221; button, then BB makes me sign in via popups before the post can proceed.  I do so then click the &#8220;Post as benenglish&#8221; button.  The post appears.</p>
<p>However, following that sequence of events, the &#8220;In reply to &#8230;&#8221; text that should appear above my post is missing.</p>
<p>This is a possible problem or just my misunderstanding of the way things work, I don&#8217;t know which.  Most likely the latter.</p>
<p>I thought you might like to know.  </p>
<p>PS &#8211; Since this is only tangentially related to moderation policy and I don&#8217;t want to do any unintended threadjacking, please tell me if there&#8217;s a more appropriate place to post observations such as these.</p>
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		<title>By: teufelsdrochk</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1228707</link>
		<dc:creator>teufelsdrochk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pointless criticisms of the new layout:

1) do you really need a menu bar? no one, ever, will use that stuff.
2) the ad/highlight region to the right is WAY too big. Can&#039;t you pick one thing to advertise/highlight and let us read the content with the rest of the screen?
3) the submitterator and comments are hidden. you guys MUST know that user submissions and comments are the stickiest things about the blog. the best stuff in your content is either previously viral or gets reposted to yahoo...get over yourselves and go back to emphasizing USER content.

Thanks for pretending to listen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pointless criticisms of the new layout:</p>
<p>1) do you really need a menu bar? no one, ever, will use that stuff.<br />
2) the ad/highlight region to the right is WAY too big. Can&#8217;t you pick one thing to advertise/highlight and let us read the content with the rest of the screen?<br />
3) the submitterator and comments are hidden. you guys MUST know that user submissions and comments are the stickiest things about the blog. the best stuff in your content is either previously viral or gets reposted to yahoo&#8230;get over yourselves and go back to emphasizing USER content.</p>
<p>Thanks for pretending to listen!</p>
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		<title>By: Sharp</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1220513</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had a few comments of mine disappear (re: non-disclosure of wachismo sponsorship on post that mentions their watches.) I didn&#039;t mean any mal-intent and as far as I can tell, I have not violated any of the policies above. Can you help me to better understand why my posts were removed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had a few comments of mine disappear (re: non-disclosure of wachismo sponsorship on post that mentions their watches.) I didn&#8217;t mean any mal-intent and as far as I can tell, I have not violated any of the policies above. Can you help me to better understand why my posts were removed?</p>
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		<title>By: benenglish</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1217985</link>
		<dc:creator>benenglish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks.

It took me a while to figure it out but, in retrospect, it&#039;s obvious that the &quot;If saying it to a
stranger in meatspace might earn you a black eye, please don&#039;t say it in
your comment&quot; portion of the commenting policy is the part that applies.  The person I was replying to was clearly on such a short fuse that any expression of disagreement with him, if it had happened in meatspace, might have earned me a black eye.  Thus, I shouldn&#039;t have even made my initial post.

All in all, I think you did the best thing possible by killing commenting on that thread early, ahead of the usual cutoff.  

Again, thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>It took me a while to figure it out but, in retrospect, it&#8217;s obvious that the &#8220;If saying it to a<br />
stranger in meatspace might earn you a black eye, please don&#8217;t say it in<br />
your comment&#8221; portion of the commenting policy is the part that applies.  The person I was replying to was clearly on such a short fuse that any expression of disagreement with him, if it had happened in meatspace, might have earned me a black eye.  Thus, I shouldn&#8217;t have even made my initial post.</p>
<p>All in all, I think you did the best thing possible by killing commenting on that thread early, ahead of the usual cutoff.  </p>
<p>Again, thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1216649</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comment violated the Comment Policy to the extent that it triggered the automatic filters. Please read the policy.  The issue is quite obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comment violated the Comment Policy to the extent that it triggered the automatic filters. Please read the policy.  The issue is quite obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: benenglish</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1216499</link>
		<dc:creator>benenglish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 13:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does approval-queuing for signed-in users work?  I was under the impression that signed-in users were able to post automatically, though they could (obviously) be moderated after the fact.  However, I just composed a comment, hit the &quot;Post as benenglish&quot; button, and then got a popup saying my comment would be held for moderation.

Is this new?  I haven&#039;t posted much since the changes a few months ago; those changes made BB pretty much unusable to me from my work computer which is where I did most of my reading.  Recently I retired so I&#039;m trying to get back into the BB habit again but if all comments are held for moderation, even when signed in, I&#039;ll have to reconsider how much effort I&#039;m willing to devote to trying to get my words to appear on the site.

And yes, I did read the comment policy page again before I posted this.  I apologize in advance if I&#039;ve missed something obvious.

Added edit - OK, this is weird.  My post to this page appeared instantly, with no &quot;being held for moderation&quot; popup.  I must have done something wrong in the post that prompted my initial question.  Too lengthy, perhaps?  Can excessive length cause a post to be held for moderation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does approval-queuing for signed-in users work?  I was under the impression that signed-in users were able to post automatically, though they could (obviously) be moderated after the fact.  However, I just composed a comment, hit the &#8220;Post as benenglish&#8221; button, and then got a popup saying my comment would be held for moderation.</p>
<p>Is this new?  I haven&#8217;t posted much since the changes a few months ago; those changes made BB pretty much unusable to me from my work computer which is where I did most of my reading.  Recently I retired so I&#8217;m trying to get back into the BB habit again but if all comments are held for moderation, even when signed in, I&#8217;ll have to reconsider how much effort I&#8217;m willing to devote to trying to get my words to appear on the site.</p>
<p>And yes, I did read the comment policy page again before I posted this.  I apologize in advance if I&#8217;ve missed something obvious.</p>
<p>Added edit &#8211; OK, this is weird.  My post to this page appeared instantly, with no &#8220;being held for moderation&#8221; popup.  I must have done something wrong in the post that prompted my initial question.  Too lengthy, perhaps?  Can excessive length cause a post to be held for moderation?</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1210559</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 01:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It works fine with AdBlock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It works fine with AdBlock.</p>
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		<title>By: jphilby</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1210511</link>
		<dc:creator>jphilby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 00:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-1210511</guid>
		<description>Rob says: &quot;A less laborious method of preventing tracking cookies is to install a 
plug-in such as Ghostery or Adblock. Go right ahead, we don&#039;t mind.&quot;

That would be a great idea, except that it&#039;s impossible (for me, on FF at least) to log in OR EVEN TO READ COMMENTS without disabling Ghostery web-blocking for Disqus. Just for boingboing ... and then remembering to turn it back on again.

The new system may be easier for some, but it&#039;s a bloody mess (WP -and- Disqus to deal with), and most days I just don&#039;t bother to read the comments ... which is a real PITA. It has pretty much spoiled BB for me (even putting aside the 13 different trackers on the site). Oh well ... it was real while it lasted... for about a decade in my case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob says: &#8220;A less laborious method of preventing tracking cookies is to install a<br />
plug-in such as Ghostery or Adblock. Go right ahead, we don&#8217;t mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>That would be a great idea, except that it&#8217;s impossible (for me, on FF at least) to log in OR EVEN TO READ COMMENTS without disabling Ghostery web-blocking for Disqus. Just for boingboing &#8230; and then remembering to turn it back on again.</p>
<p>The new system may be easier for some, but it&#8217;s a bloody mess (WP -and- Disqus to deal with), and most days I just don&#8217;t bother to read the comments &#8230; which is a real PITA. It has pretty much spoiled BB for me (even putting aside the 13 different trackers on the site). Oh well &#8230; it was real while it lasted&#8230; for about a decade in my case.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1209344</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-1209344</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t understand it either.  If I find out, I&#039;ll post it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand it either.  If I find out, I&#8217;ll post it.</p>
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		<title>By: An Infinitude of Tortoises</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1205686</link>
		<dc:creator>An Infinitude of Tortoises</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">#comment-1205686</guid>
		<description>Anyone know what determines whether one&#039;s name on a post appears black and is a link to something (e.g., Facebook, Twitter) or appears red and isn&#039;t a link?  I was thinking it would be great if I could tie that to the Website listed in my profile....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone know what determines whether one&#8217;s name on a post appears black and is a link to something (e.g., Facebook, Twitter) or appears red and isn&#8217;t a link?  I was thinking it would be great if I could tie that to the Website listed in my profile&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Martin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1203103</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great policies.  The only one I call into question is &quot;• Please don&#039;t suggest that the victim &quot;had it coming&quot; in a civil liberties/human rights thread unless you have some evidence to support your claim.&quot;

The rule demands that the commenter supply &quot;some evidence&quot; to support a 
&quot;he had it coming to him&quot; claim.  My only issue is that this rule 
implies that the evidence contained in the original post does not 
contain evidence to support a &quot;he had it coming to him&quot; conclusion and 
that the commenter must supply extra-BB evidence to support a &quot;HHICTH&quot; 
conclusion.

Two problems:

1) This is squelching honest debate on the role of police and the duty 
of civilians in societies.   I assume we have all seen many many videos 
where there was a honest disagreement about the amount of force used in 
an arrest, etc.  Not being able to take one side for fear of censure or 
banning is kind of draconian.

2) It implies that any post on BB about civil rights will always be of 
the &quot;this guy didn&#039;t have it coming to him&quot; kind and never of a &quot;Here is
 how NOT to interact with cops...boy this guy had it coming to him!&quot; 
kind.  Under you policy, even if BB posted an article the latter type, 
we couldn&#039;t discuss it at all unless we supplied &quot;some evidence&quot; of our 
own.  Odd.

All of this is moot if we can, in fact, use evidence contained in the 
original post under discussion.  But, if that were the case, then why 
the policy in the first case?   It just smacks of &quot;cops are always 
wrong&quot; attitude that is just not in line with the real world of honest 
debate.

Perhaps you should clarify it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great policies.  The only one I call into question is &#8220;• Please don&#8217;t suggest that the victim &#8220;had it coming&#8221; in a civil liberties/human rights thread unless you have some evidence to support your claim.&#8221;</p>
<p>The rule demands that the commenter supply &#8220;some evidence&#8221; to support a<br />
&#8220;he had it coming to him&#8221; claim.  My only issue is that this rule<br />
implies that the evidence contained in the original post does not<br />
contain evidence to support a &#8220;he had it coming to him&#8221; conclusion and<br />
that the commenter must supply extra-BB evidence to support a &#8220;HHICTH&#8221;<br />
conclusion.</p>
<p>Two problems:</p>
<p>1) This is squelching honest debate on the role of police and the duty<br />
of civilians in societies.   I assume we have all seen many many videos<br />
where there was a honest disagreement about the amount of force used in<br />
an arrest, etc.  Not being able to take one side for fear of censure or<br />
banning is kind of draconian.</p>
<p>2) It implies that any post on BB about civil rights will always be of<br />
the &#8220;this guy didn&#8217;t have it coming to him&#8221; kind and never of a &#8220;Here is<br />
 how NOT to interact with cops&#8230;boy this guy had it coming to him!&#8221;<br />
kind.  Under you policy, even if BB posted an article the latter type,<br />
we couldn&#8217;t discuss it at all unless we supplied &#8220;some evidence&#8221; of our<br />
own.  Odd.</p>
<p>All of this is moot if we can, in fact, use evidence contained in the<br />
original post under discussion.  But, if that were the case, then why<br />
the policy in the first case?   It just smacks of &#8220;cops are always<br />
wrong&#8221; attitude that is just not in line with the real world of honest<br />
debate.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should clarify it?</p>
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		<title>By: DewiMorgan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1200002</link>
		<dc:creator>DewiMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 22:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess that makes sense then. Damn shame, though :( Darn you, spammers, darn youuuuu! You spoil it for everyone!

I&#039;d still love some way of tracking threads I&#039;ve responded to, at least for the last 5 days. But OK, I guess you&#039;ve gathered that and I&#039;ll shut up saying it now :P

It&#039;d also be nice to have a list of most-liked comments... but that might encourage me to make content-free cultural-reference comments instead of longer, more thoughtful ones. And anyway, it&#039;s an unreliable metric, since not every comment gets the same number of readers. So OK, maybe not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that makes sense then. Damn shame, though :( Darn you, spammers, darn youuuuu! You spoil it for everyone!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d still love some way of tracking threads I&#8217;ve responded to, at least for the last 5 days. But OK, I guess you&#8217;ve gathered that and I&#8217;ll shut up saying it now :P</p>
<p>It&#8217;d also be nice to have a list of most-liked comments&#8230; but that might encourage me to make content-free cultural-reference comments instead of longer, more thoughtful ones. And anyway, it&#8217;s an unreliable metric, since not every comment gets the same number of readers. So OK, maybe not.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1198007</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Threads close after 5 days.  Older threads accounted for the majority of spam and crazy people getting into turf wars.</description>
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		<title>By: DewiMorgan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1197764</link>
		<dc:creator>DewiMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, older threads have commenting closed? What&#039;s the point in that? Who gains? Some of the most interesting online discussions I&#039;ve had, have been the long ones here in BoingBoing, back when we could get notifications of that stuff. Still, means I only need to keep the most recent few pages bookmarked, I guess :( But still: saddening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, older threads have commenting closed? What&#8217;s the point in that? Who gains? Some of the most interesting online discussions I&#8217;ve had, have been the long ones here in BoingBoing, back when we could get notifications of that stuff. Still, means I only need to keep the most recent few pages bookmarked, I guess :( But still: saddening.</p>
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		<title>By: DewiMorgan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1197348</link>
		<dc:creator>DewiMorgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 03:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome. Will the update include a return to being able to track responses to our posts? Or at least being able to make some kind of feed of the posts we&#039;d commented on? Or... something, anything, that will stop comments going into the void?

I&#039;m guessing &quot;soon&quot; means weeks/months rather than hours/days (since you all have day jobs, I think!), so I&#039;ll try to remember to just bookmark any thread I comment on, and check them weekly.

For all my distaste of Disqus, there *are* some good points to this update. Definite improvements from my point of view include:
 - comment editing;
 - image embedding (OK, arguably not a plus, in most cases, but really handy when used well);
 - remembering me for more than 24 hours.
 - (currently unrealised) potential for comment tree view.

Sure, these don&#039;t even begin to outweigh the ghastliness of losing any kind of tracking of my comments and the responses. But they ARE cool, and I can see how this could work out well if the missing functionality is returned.

===

But then there&#039;s their ToS, which is another kettle of fish entirely.

http://docs.disqus.com/help/29/ seems to be the closest I can find to a ToS, though whether it&#039;s aimed at BB or the BB community, I&#039;m not exactly sure, but since it doesn&#039;t say, I&#039;m guessing both:

&lt;blockquote&gt;By accessing the Disqus website (&quot;Site&quot;) or using the services offered 
by Disqus (&quot;Services&quot;) you agree and acknowledge to be bound by these 
Terms of Service (&quot;Terms&quot;).&lt;/blockquote&gt;Is commenting on a site that runs the system a &quot;use&quot;, or does &quot;use&quot; only cover running it on your site? That&#039;s something for the lawyers, I think.

&lt;blockquote&gt;By posting content, you are granting permission to us and others to 
access and use it in connection with the Services, the Site and 
otherwise in connection with our business.&lt;/blockquote&gt;That seems to say: commenters (and original BB article posters?) grant Disqus an irrevocable license to use your comment/post in any way they see fit, including to promote things you might personally find objectionable, misrepresent your opinions, etc, so long as they can find a business reason for so doing. Not something I object to, as I consider my comments to be placed in the public domain. But I could see people who care about that kind of thing being a little upset.

&lt;blockquote&gt; Your use of a license in connection with your compilation does not 
affect Disqus&#039;s right to access and use it in connection with the 
Services, the Site or otherwise in connection with our business.&lt;/blockquote&gt;If you release something (a &quot;compilation&quot;, which isn&#039;t defined) under a specific license, then post that to a Disqus board, Disqus can still ignore that license, and share it with their customers under any license they like, or none, so long as they can find a business reason to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. Will the update include a return to being able to track responses to our posts? Or at least being able to make some kind of feed of the posts we&#8217;d commented on? Or&#8230; something, anything, that will stop comments going into the void?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing &#8220;soon&#8221; means weeks/months rather than hours/days (since you all have day jobs, I think!), so I&#8217;ll try to remember to just bookmark any thread I comment on, and check them weekly.</p>
<p>For all my distaste of Disqus, there *are* some good points to this update. Definite improvements from my point of view include:<br />
 - comment editing;<br />
 - image embedding (OK, arguably not a plus, in most cases, but really handy when used well);<br />
 - remembering me for more than 24 hours.<br />
 - (currently unrealised) potential for comment tree view.</p>
<p>Sure, these don&#8217;t even begin to outweigh the ghastliness of losing any kind of tracking of my comments and the responses. But they ARE cool, and I can see how this could work out well if the missing functionality is returned.</p>
<p>===</p>
<p>But then there&#8217;s their ToS, which is another kettle of fish entirely.</p>
<p><a href="http://docs.disqus.com/help/29/" rel="nofollow">http://docs.disqus.com/help/29/</a> seems to be the closest I can find to a ToS, though whether it&#8217;s aimed at BB or the BB community, I&#8217;m not exactly sure, but since it doesn&#8217;t say, I&#8217;m guessing both:</p>
<blockquote><p>By accessing the Disqus website (&#8220;Site&#8221;) or using the services offered<br />
by Disqus (&#8220;Services&#8221;) you agree and acknowledge to be bound by these<br />
Terms of Service (&#8220;Terms&#8221;).</p></blockquote>
<p>Is commenting on a site that runs the system a &#8220;use&#8221;, or does &#8220;use&#8221; only cover running it on your site? That&#8217;s something for the lawyers, I think.</p>
<blockquote><p>By posting content, you are granting permission to us and others to<br />
access and use it in connection with the Services, the Site and<br />
otherwise in connection with our business.</p></blockquote>
<p>That seems to say: commenters (and original BB article posters?) grant Disqus an irrevocable license to use your comment/post in any way they see fit, including to promote things you might personally find objectionable, misrepresent your opinions, etc, so long as they can find a business reason for so doing. Not something I object to, as I consider my comments to be placed in the public domain. But I could see people who care about that kind of thing being a little upset.</p>
<blockquote><p> Your use of a license in connection with your compilation does not<br />
affect Disqus&#8217;s right to access and use it in connection with the<br />
Services, the Site or otherwise in connection with our business.</p></blockquote>
<p>If you release something (a &#8220;compilation&#8221;, which isn&#8217;t defined) under a specific license, then post that to a Disqus board, Disqus can still ignore that license, and share it with their customers under any license they like, or none, so long as they can find a business reason to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: digi_owl</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1195708</link>
		<dc:creator>digi_owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible to have the focus be on the top most of the new posts, when clicking the &quot;open new posts&quot; link?</description>
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		<title>By: Rob Beschizza</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/01/commenting.html#comment-1193685</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Beschizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Aug 2011 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The flaws (such as missing j/k and CSS wankery) will be fixed in a forthcoming redesign. Soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flaws (such as missing j/k and CSS wankery) will be fixed in a forthcoming redesign. Soon.</p>
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