Comments on: The criticism that Ralph Lauren doesn't want you to see! http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 21 May 2013 15:14:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: rossb http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606720 rossb Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606720 Did anyone see that the header on the second page says "Legal Assistant - Register.com" Sloppy. Did anyone see that the header on the second page says “Legal Assistant – Register.com”

Sloppy.

]]> By: sla http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-608256 sla Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-608256 Kudos - this is obscene behavior by a company that caters to our children. BOYCOTT RL! Kudos – this is obscene behavior by a company that caters to our children. BOYCOTT RL!

]]> By: Shawn http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-608768 Shawn Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-608768 First BIG thumbs up to your ISP. Second, Has anyone contacted XKCD for this clear rip off of by Ralph Lauren First BIG thumbs up to your ISP.

Second, Has anyone contacted XKCD for this clear rip off of by Ralph Lauren

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-613632 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-613632 Very Very well said! Very Very well said!

]]> By: Laura http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606209 Laura Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606209 Golf claps all around. Good job BoingBoing for holding your ground. Golf claps all around. Good job BoingBoing for holding your ground.

]]> By: mdh http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606465 mdh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606465 This story more than makes up for the PS disaster that I was thinking the front page at BB has become. This story more than makes up for the PS disaster that I was thinking the front page at BB has become.

]]> By: Tensegrity http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606721 Tensegrity Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606721 I just gave them a piece of my mind at their website feedback form. http://www.ralphlauren.com/helpdesk/index.jsp?display=store&subdisplay=contact&ab=footer_emailus I let them know that, in fact, I tried on a CK sport jacket just last week, but I surely would not purchase any products from them until the retract the DMCA and issue an apology. I just gave them a piece of my mind at their website feedback form.
http://www.ralphlauren.com/helpdesk/index.jsp?display=store&subdisplay=contact&ab=footer_emailus

I let them know that, in fact, I tried on a CK sport jacket just last week, but I surely would not purchase any products from them until the retract the DMCA and issue an apology.

]]> By: HeyThereItsEric http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-607489 HeyThereItsEric Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607489 (I hope I haven't just left this same comment three times... Oy!) For fun, look up: <b>Greenberg Traurig</b> (the law firm on the DMCA Infringement notification) <b>Jack Abramoff Guam</b>. Here's a start: http://www.abajournal.com/news/greenberg_traurig_indicted_in_guam <b>Greenberg Traurig Indicted in Guam</b> Posted Mar 12, 2008, 03:41 pm CDT By Martha Neil "Disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the firm for which he formerly worked have been indicted in Guam for allegedly making improper billings to the U.S. territory's superior court." (I hope I haven’t just left this same comment three times… Oy!)

For fun, look up:

Greenberg Traurig (the law firm on the DMCA Infringement notification)
Jack Abramoff
Guam.

Here’s a start: http://www.abajournal.com/news/greenberg_traurig_indicted_in_guam

Greenberg Traurig Indicted in Guam

Posted Mar 12, 2008, 03:41 pm CDT
By Martha Neil

“Disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff and the firm for which he formerly worked have been indicted in Guam for allegedly making improper billings to the U.S. territory’s superior court.”

]]> By: defacebook http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606210 defacebook Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606210 Ha Ha! Well done. I boycott Ralph Lauren and his crappy country club rags. signing off... neoprene 98 Ha Ha! Well done. I boycott Ralph Lauren and his crappy country club rags.

signing off… neoprene 98

]]> By: Mathis http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-607746 Mathis Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607746 Way to go Boing Boing! Way to go Boing Boing!

]]> By: mdh http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606467 mdh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606467 Xeni and the unicorn will handle them. Xeni and the unicorn will handle them.

]]> By: Kamal http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-607747 Kamal Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607747 Love it...show this moron that he doesnt rule the world...wish there were more like you. Love it…show this moron that he doesnt rule the world…wish there were more like you.

]]> By: notahongkie http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-607748 notahongkie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607748 YES YES YES to Boing Boing. Do not bow to threats from RL. YES YES YES to Boing Boing. Do not bow to threats from RL.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-613636 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-613636 http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2009/10/ralph-lauren-hits-keep-on-coming.html http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2009/10/ralph-lauren-hits-keep-on-coming.html

]]> By: Julia http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606469 Julia Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606469 well done and more power to you! well done and more power to you!

]]> By: David http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606725 David Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606725 Her neck is her center of gravity. Her neck is her center of gravity.

]]> By: Gotty http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-607749 Gotty Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607749 LOL....Ralph Lauren FAIL!!!! I havent bought any clothes from this guy in a wile allready for other insidents and more so now, dont plan on starting to do so....I 2 hope your company belly flops. LOL….Ralph Lauren FAIL!!!!
I havent bought any clothes from this guy in a wile allready for other insidents and more so now, dont plan on starting to do so….I 2 hope your company belly flops.

]]> By: L. Collis http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-608261 L. Collis Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-608261 As a professional photographer for over 9 years, I must say that I appreciate what Boing Boing has had to say. When does enough become enough? I must agree with one of my instructors when he said, "Just because you can do it in Photoshop, doesn't mean you should." This kind of manipulation not only hurts a youngsters self image, it hurts the industry and a field in which I love. Have some integrity for the work in which you produced and keep it pro...The RL ad is not pro at all! Thanks Boing Boing for pointing this out! As a professional photographer for over 9 years, I must say that I appreciate what Boing Boing has had to say. When does enough become enough? I must agree with one of my instructors when he said, “Just because you can do it in Photoshop, doesn’t mean you should.” This kind of manipulation not only hurts a youngsters self image, it hurts the industry and a field in which I love. Have some integrity for the work in which you produced and keep it pro…The RL ad is not pro at all! Thanks Boing Boing for pointing this out!

]]> By: querent http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606726 querent Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606726 I'm down. Ralph Lauren blacklisted because of attempts at censorship. /passes copies of Naomi Klein's "No Logo" around. kudos to boing and their mighty isp. I’m down. Ralph Lauren blacklisted because of attempts at censorship.

/passes copies of Naomi Klein’s “No Logo” around.

kudos to boing and their mighty isp.

]]> By: Rebecca Leaman http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-608262 Rebecca Leaman Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-608262 Ralph Lauren needs to get: (a) some respect for their customers, (b) an awareness-raising cuff about the head, (c) some quality time with a few real-world victims of eating disorders, and (d) a marketing firm that has some *clue* of how social media works. Sorry, Team Ralph, but all the DMCA complaints in the world won't put this metaphorical cat back in the bag. Abject apologies to women everywhere - and a radical change in corporate culture - would have been more in order. Ralph Lauren needs to get:
(a) some respect for their customers,
(b) an awareness-raising cuff about the head,
(c) some quality time with a few real-world victims of eating disorders, and
(d) a marketing firm that has some *clue* of how social media works.

Sorry, Team Ralph, but all the DMCA complaints in the world won’t put this metaphorical cat back in the bag. Abject apologies to women everywhere – and a radical change in corporate culture – would have been more in order.

]]> By: Natalie on the Bayou http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-607751 Natalie on the Bayou Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607751 Thank you, it is pretty sad that this ad found its way to the laymen, how coudl anyone with an ounce of common sense find it attractive, it makes me feels uncomfortable and honestly sad because youg girls may think that is what a pretty woman needs to look like. Way to go boing boing for not letting them bully you, result for me is i am going to avoid their products (i live in teh US) spread the word about this sad ad. Thank you, it is pretty sad that this ad found its way to the laymen, how coudl anyone with an ounce of common sense find it attractive, it makes me feels uncomfortable and honestly sad because youg girls may think that is what a pretty woman needs to look like.

Way to go boing boing for not letting them bully you, result for me is i am going to avoid their products (i live in teh US) spread the word about this sad ad.

]]> By: Rebekah http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-608263 Rebekah Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-608263 I'm outraged by the RL ad. I'm even more outraged by the RL strong-arm, scare tactics. In contrast, I'm PROUD of the courage exhibited by this blog. Which blog, by the way, I'd never before heard of and never before visited. So I guess RL's actions have actually HELPED this blog. Ha. Brought traffic to the site and also shed light on this disturbing issue. Ironic. Keep fighting the fight, BB! I’m outraged by the RL ad.
I’m even more outraged by the RL strong-arm, scare tactics.
In contrast, I’m PROUD of the courage exhibited by this blog.
Which blog, by the way, I’d never before heard of and never before visited.
So I guess RL’s actions have actually HELPED this blog. Ha. Brought traffic to the site and also shed light on this disturbing issue. Ironic.
Keep fighting the fight, BB!

]]> By: Meta http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606984 Meta Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606984 Veeeery good! Keep on fighting, folks! Veeeery good! Keep on fighting, folks!

]]> By: Eugene http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-607496 Eugene Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607496 The notice states, "under penalty of perjury...information in this notice to be accurate." It's obvious to anybody (even lawyers and judges), that the fair use clause applies here. Can you push back and charge them with perjury? If they assumed responsibility for their actions, they may think twice before trying to intimidate smaller companies and indivuals without deep pockets. Just a thought, Eugene P.S. I hope I don't get into trouble for quoting the notice. The notice states, “under penalty of perjury…information in this notice to be accurate.”

It’s obvious to anybody (even lawyers and judges), that the fair use clause applies here. Can you push back and charge them with perjury? If they assumed responsibility for their actions, they may think twice before trying to intimidate smaller companies and indivuals without deep pockets.

Just a thought,
Eugene

P.S. I hope I don’t get into trouble for quoting the notice.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-607752 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607752 All well and good. RL is in the wrong to send the DMCA. But I'd like to note that one of my regular daily customers is built almost identically to this model - as pictured. The only difference is that Sherri (my customer) has much larger breasts (Silicone), and she is about 15-20 years older than the model. Sherri is "impossibly thin", and yes, in fact, her head IS larger than her hips - really. I'd send a pic if I had one. So, while this model's picture has obviously been 'shopped, it is not her thin frame that makes it obvious. What's obvious about it is the fact that in other publications, this model has vastly different proportions. All well and good. RL is in the wrong to send the DMCA. But I’d like to note that one of my regular daily customers is built almost identically to this model – as pictured. The only difference is that Sherri (my customer) has much larger breasts (Silicone), and she is about 15-20 years older than the model. Sherri is “impossibly thin”, and yes, in fact, her head IS larger than her hips – really. I’d send a pic if I had one. So, while this model’s picture has obviously been ‘shopped, it is not her thin frame that makes it obvious. What’s obvious about it is the fact that in other publications, this model has vastly different proportions.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-612616 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-612616 Wow, never buying a Polo shirt again. I'll go out of my way to find another brand. rs Wow, never buying a Polo shirt again. I’ll go out of my way to find another brand.

rs

]]> By: Laura http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606218 Laura Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606218 Do you think the lawyer who sent the note, Ms. Roxanne Elings (bio here: http://gtlaw.com/People/GRoxanneElings) realized how weak her DMCA take down notices. I realize that her client MADE her do it, but doesn't it reflect poorly on the law firm for not pushing back on the client and telling them what people legally can and cannot do? Do you think the lawyer who sent the note, Ms. Roxanne Elings (bio here: http://gtlaw.com/People/GRoxanneElings) realized how weak her DMCA take down notices. I realize that her client MADE her do it, but doesn’t it reflect poorly on the law firm for not pushing back on the client and telling them what people legally can and cannot do?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-608778 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-608778 kudos to you for exposing them! kudos to you for exposing them!

]]> By: kazo http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-609802 kazo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-609802 Ralph Lauren made a public comment... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1219046/Ralph-Lauren-digitally-retouches-slender-model-make-look-THINNER.html Ralph Lauren made a public comment… http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1219046/Ralph-Lauren-digitally-retouches-slender-model-make-look-THINNER.html

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-607755 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607755 RL clothes suck anyways! They are of poor quality and overly prices not to mention horribly designed. RL clothes suck anyways! They are of poor quality and overly prices not to mention horribly designed.

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