Comments on: De-touching the lollipop-headed Ralph Lauren image that prompted a legal threat http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 11:58:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Felix Mitchell http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-606977 Felix Mitchell Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606977 This is pretty poor. Tempted to do my own when I get home. Needs less smooth skin, more upper thigh, more waist and bingo wings. @ mgfarrelly So... skinny = moody and fat = jolly? Idiot. This is pretty poor. Tempted to do my own when I get home. Needs less smooth skin, more upper thigh, more waist and bingo wings.

@ mgfarrelly

So… skinny = moody and fat = jolly? Idiot.

]]> By: Phoenicks http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-606985 Phoenicks Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606985 <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/06/emboing-boingem-and-ralph_n_311593.html">Huffington Post</a> picked up RL VS Boing Boing Huffington Post picked up RL VS Boing Boing

]]> By: Stuart http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-606987 Stuart Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606987 I look at the de-freaked image, and I'm still seeing the Invasion of the Mantis People very clearly. She's still about 7 1/2 heads tall - so she's still completely outside the normal range. That, and the fact that she looks like she's partially liquefied - what do you call a disaster on top of another disaster? I look at the de-freaked image, and I’m still seeing the Invasion of the Mantis People very clearly.

She’s still about 7 1/2 heads tall – so she’s still completely outside the normal range. That, and the fact that she looks like she’s partially liquefied – what do you call a disaster on top of another disaster?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607499 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607499 FWIW, I worked for the company at the time, especially closely to the graphics department that "created" this image. The model had gained weight and he-llo, rather than booking another model, or choosing a different pose, they decided to just make her look thinner in post-production. I know several higher-ups were opposed to the publishing of the image, but it was eventually approved, only to be criticized internally when everyone realized how absolutely ridiculous it looked. FWIW, I worked for the company at the time, especially closely to the graphics department that “created” this image. The model had gained weight and he-llo, rather than booking another model, or choosing a different pose, they decided to just make her look thinner in post-production. I know several higher-ups were opposed to the publishing of the image, but it was eventually approved, only to be criticized internally when everyone realized how absolutely ridiculous it looked.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607756 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607756 Oooh, can I try? http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/ab184/polypam2/Filippa-Hamilton-02.jpg Head is still slightly big I think, but comon', girl's still a moddle. Oooh, can I try?

http://i862.photobucket.com/albums/ab184/polypam2/Filippa-Hamilton-02.jpg

Head is still slightly big I think, but comon’, girl’s still a moddle.

]]> By: machinelf http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-606993 machinelf Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606993 I can't rasterbate to this! I can’t rasterbate to this!

]]> By: ZoopyFunk http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-606996 ZoopyFunk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606996 I think this image is just a drop of water in the marketing ocean. A bigger drop than most, sure. What I don't like is that free speech seems to be *more* of an issue that the womans health. And, at the end of the day, both Boing Boing and Ralph Lauren are profiting from this on some level. I thinks that a tad sad. I think this image is just a drop of water in the marketing ocean. A bigger drop than most, sure. What I don’t like is that free speech seems to be *more* of an issue that the womans health.

And, at the end of the day, both Boing Boing and Ralph Lauren are profiting from this on some level. I thinks that a tad sad.

]]> By: Tigerbomb http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-606998 Tigerbomb Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-606998 It's not complete until someone grafts on a huge schlong. It’s not complete until someone grafts on a huge schlong.

]]> By: Pasketti http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607009 Pasketti Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607009 Now her left arm looks like Popeye's. Now her left arm looks like Popeye’s.

]]> By: Ernst Gruengast http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607010 Ernst Gruengast Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607010 The model is Filippa Hamilton-Palmstierna, who is not only the face of Ralph Lauren, but apparently also long-time user of Herbalife weight loss products: http://www.blogherbaldiet.com/Herbalife/herbalife-before-and-after-photos So that's what pills can do to you! Here she is before her hips imploded and here head exploded: http://www.blogherbaldiet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ralph-lauren.jpg Warning: chemically distorting your body can lead to structural instability, which can make it difficult to sit on chairs: http://www.etapetki.com.pl/galleries/znane/H/Filippa_Hamilton/Filippa_Hamilton_j20.JPG Best, Ernst The model is Filippa Hamilton-Palmstierna, who is not only the face of Ralph Lauren, but apparently also long-time user of Herbalife weight loss products:
http://www.blogherbaldiet.com/Herbalife/herbalife-before-and-after-photos

So that’s what pills can do to you!

Here she is before her hips imploded and here head exploded:
http://www.blogherbaldiet.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ralph-lauren.jpg

Warning: chemically distorting your body can lead to structural instability, which can make it difficult to sit on chairs:
http://www.etapetki.com.pl/galleries/znane/H/Filippa_Hamilton/Filippa_Hamilton_j20.JPG

Best,

Ernst

]]> By: MIke http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-608292 MIke Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-608292 This story has made Yahoo today. http://shine.yahoo.com/event/fallbeauty/image-of-ultra-thin-ralph-lauren-model-sparks-outrage-521480/ This story has made Yahoo today.

http://shine.yahoo.com/event/fallbeauty/image-of-ultra-thin-ralph-lauren-model-sparks-outrage-521480/

]]> By: adam http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607013 adam Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607013 can BB hack this so that I can do the mouse-over comparison? you know, so the images flip-flop in a single frame? I can do a side by side by playing with browser windows,(and the contrast becomes even more astonishing) but the immediacy of the "before/after" can't be overstated. can BB hack this so that I can do the mouse-over comparison?
you know, so the images flip-flop in a single frame?
I can do a side by side by playing with browser windows,(and the contrast becomes even more astonishing) but the immediacy of the “before/after” can’t be overstated.

]]> By: MrJM http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607015 MrJM Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607015 This un-retouched photograph explains the entire misunderstanding: http://bit.ly/BHOHV -- MrJM This un-retouched photograph explains the entire misunderstanding: http://bit.ly/BHOHV

– MrJM

]]> By: lyd http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607016 lyd Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607016 "And, at the end of the day, both Boing Boing and Ralph Lauren are profiting from this on some level. I thinks that a tad sad. " So... what then? Better to have just pulled the posting when the take-down notice came? Xeni should never have made an issue of it in the first place? I'm having a hard time understanding at what level you find BB in the wrong here, and what they might be doing differently. “And, at the end of the day, both Boing Boing and Ralph Lauren are profiting from this on some level. I thinks that a tad sad. ”

So… what then? Better to have just pulled the posting when the take-down notice came? Xeni should never have made an issue of it in the first place?

I’m having a hard time understanding at what level you find BB in the wrong here, and what they might be doing differently.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607018 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607018 Without cocaine and cigarettes... http://www.existent.com/images/fat-lauren.jpg Without cocaine and cigarettes…

http://www.existent.com/images/fat-lauren.jpg

]]> By: Sparrow http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607019 Sparrow Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607019 I didn't realize at first that the image accompanying this article is the detouched version. It still looks like an unrealistic body shape, unless it's an example of the effects of extreme corsetry. I didn’t realize at first that the image accompanying this article is the detouched version. It still looks like an unrealistic body shape, unless it’s an example of the effects of extreme corsetry.

]]> By: Phikus http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607532 Phikus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607532 There you go, Doug. Let's assume for the sake of argument that you are wrong, since you have not presented any evidence to the contrary, and that you are a RL apologist troll, of which you have indeed presented convincing evidence. I think the original post describes BB's position fairly well. Common sense for us non-litigious types would dictate that it's better to take your lumps when you do something stupid than make a big stink which will most assuredly backfire. (See the previously referenced Streisand Effect please.) Oh, I guess you would rather have everyone cower before the ignorant bloated industry giants whenever they snap their fingers and try to wave their magic wand of intimidation, no matter how unjustified? This might not be the blog for you. There you go, Doug. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that you are wrong, since you have not presented any evidence to the contrary, and that you are a RL apologist troll, of which you have indeed presented convincing evidence. I think the original post describes BB’s position fairly well. Common sense for us non-litigious types would dictate that it’s better to take your lumps when you do something stupid than make a big stink which will most assuredly backfire. (See the previously referenced Streisand Effect please.) Oh, I guess you would rather have everyone cower before the ignorant bloated industry giants whenever they snap their fingers and try to wave their magic wand of intimidation, no matter how unjustified? This might not be the blog for you.

]]> By: Doug Nelson http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607533 Doug Nelson Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607533 Sure you did, "Anonymous". I guess they also criticized the distortion of the corporate logo, to no avail. Big companies never have cared for little things like that, even companies that live and die by their public's opinion of their taste and design sense, like Ralph Lauren. Seriously, has anyone even bothered to examine this image in Photoshop with Grid on? Sure you did, “Anonymous”. I guess they also criticized the distortion of the corporate logo, to no avail. Big companies never have cared for little things like that, even companies that live and die by their public’s opinion of their taste and design sense, like Ralph Lauren.

Seriously, has anyone even bothered to examine this image in Photoshop with Grid on?

]]> By: arkizzle / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607534 arkizzle / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607534 Doug, I imagine "unauthorized derivative use" would have been more accurate, if that's what they thought. Secondly, I don't think Cory or Xeni are claiming parody, rather, fair-use for the purposes or commentary or review. Doug, I imagine “unauthorized derivative use” would have been more accurate, if that’s what they thought. Secondly, I don’t think Cory or Xeni are claiming parody, rather, fair-use for the purposes or commentary or review.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-608558 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-608558 Doug why don't you link to a real version so that this argument can be over now? I couldn't find it, and it seems others haven't either. Some objective evidence on your side would not go amiss. Doug why don’t you link to a real version so that this argument can be over now? I couldn’t find it, and it seems others haven’t either. Some objective evidence on your side would not go amiss.

]]> By: Phikus http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607535 Phikus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607535 Doug: Why should we do all the work for you? You're making the big RL astroturfing bucks... Doug: Why should we do all the work for you? You’re making the big RL astroturfing bucks…

]]> By: arkizzle / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607536 arkizzle / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607536 Anonymous, Got proof? Anonymous,

Got proof?

]]> By: lyd http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607026 lyd Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607026 The post was removed, but by the host not PSD. http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2009/10/ralph-lauren-how-to-turn-photoshop.html "I didn't take the post down - Blogspot automatically takes down posts in a DMCA. (In their defence, most ISPs do the same thing.)" The post was removed, but by the host not PSD.

http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2009/10/ralph-lauren-how-to-turn-photoshop.html

“I didn’t take the post down – Blogspot automatically takes down posts in a DMCA. (In their defence, most ISPs do the same thing.)”

]]> By: tzaraat http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607283 tzaraat Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607283 Here's my crappy entry: <a href="http://www.imagebam.com/image/c5a90751465939" target="_blank">http://www.imagebam.com/image/c5a90751465939</a><font size="-2">^</font> Here’s my crappy entry:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/c5a90751465939^

]]> By: Doug Nelson http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607539 Doug Nelson Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607539 What precisely did RL do that was stupid? Your assumption is that they released an ad that any 5th grader with Elements could do better. If that was true, that would be stupid. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt for two reasons: that they didn't get to be a billion-dollar design firm by having the advertising QC of a corner garage, and that anyone that has spent even a little time with Photoshop will recognize the results of 30 seconds worth of Liquify. I may grant you that turning loose the lawyers rather than the publicists to control this might qualify as stupid, but seeing how little effect PR damage control has over anything that goes viral I can't say that I'd have done any differently in their shoes. What precisely did RL do that was stupid? Your assumption is that they released an ad that any 5th grader with Elements could do better. If that was true, that would be stupid. I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt for two reasons: that they didn’t get to be a billion-dollar design firm by having the advertising QC of a corner garage, and that anyone that has spent even a little time with Photoshop will recognize the results of 30 seconds worth of Liquify.

I may grant you that turning loose the lawyers rather than the publicists to control this might qualify as stupid, but seeing how little effect PR damage control has over anything that goes viral I can’t say that I’d have done any differently in their shoes.

]]> By: Dave Barak http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607032 Dave Barak Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607032 "I'm Gumby, dammit!" Actually, her head looks a little too small now. “I’m Gumby, dammit!”

Actually, her head looks a little too small now.

]]> By: arkizzle / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607546 arkizzle / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607546 "<i>Seriously, has anyone even bothered to examine this image in Photoshop with Grid on?</i>" It looks quite a lot like someone has photographed a point-of-sale poster (perhaps on a vertically-curved surface). That immediately explains the perspective and the distortion-of-the-logo, as mentioned by <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/06/the-criticism-that-r.html#comment-606317">Alison Scott</a>. Look at the top left side, it looks like something in the background, a dado rail maybe. I really looks like a photo. “Seriously, has anyone even bothered to examine this image in Photoshop with Grid on?”

It looks quite a lot like someone has photographed a point-of-sale poster (perhaps on a vertically-curved surface). That immediately explains the perspective and the distortion-of-the-logo, as mentioned by Alison Scott.

Look at the top left side, it looks like something in the background, a dado rail maybe. I really looks like a photo.

]]> By: Hirsty http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607035 Hirsty Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607035 Oh my Mcdonalds. How absurd this whole thing is becoming. I love it. Oh my Mcdonalds. How absurd this whole thing is becoming. I love it.

]]> By: pAULbOWEN http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607552 pAULbOWEN Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607552 WHAAAAT the friggin flip is THAT meant to look like! WHAAAAT the friggin flip is THAT meant to look like!

]]> By: Felix Mitchell http://boingboing.net/2009/10/07/re-touching-the-loll.html#comment-607043 Felix Mitchell Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-607043 @ ZoopyFunk <i>"Boing Boing and Ralph Lauren are profiting from this on some level. I thinks that a tad sad."</i> Journalists shouldn't report on bad things? :S @ ZoopyFunk “Boing Boing and Ralph Lauren are profiting from this on some level. I thinks that a tad sad.”

Journalists shouldn’t report on bad things? :S

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