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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609792</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valid C != Valid C++.

This program is valid C++, but it doesn&#039;t always follow that valid C is valid C++. There&#039;s differences in the casting rules, and you can have variables in C that are named after C++ keywords.


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valid C != Valid C++.</p>
<p>This program is valid C++, but it doesn&#8217;t always follow that valid C is valid C++. There&#8217;s differences in the casting rules, and you can have variables in C that are named after C++ keywords.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609808</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an FYI, in C++ (at least) return 0; from main is assumed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an FYI, in C++ (at least) return 0; from main is assumed.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-610073</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fym has fym has fym...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fym has fym has fym&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-803374</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the day main was a void statement. Try out Borland Turbo C++</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the day main was a void statement. Try out Borland Turbo C++</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-634928</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609842</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Xopher, have you read the story of Mel?

http://www.cs.utah.edu/~elb/folklore/mel.html

I&#039;m off to the pub now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Xopher, have you read the story of Mel?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cs.utah.edu/~elb/folklore/mel.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cs.utah.edu/~elb/folklore/mel.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m off to the pub now.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-610354</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It means they forgot to escape &lt; and &gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It means they forgot to escape &lt; and &gt;</p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-610868</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved it when I stumbled across the story of Mel because I actually have programmed a drum using 8 toggle switches.  It was an old SEL though, not a bee, used to test solid fuel rocket motors for missiles and JATO systems.  The part about timing the drum rotation is true.  You had so little space you &lt;i&gt;had&lt;/i&gt; to do that kind of stuff!

Coding still required that level of thinking even as late as the 1980s.  I had to use DEC TKB to hand-optimize the compilation of core data aquisition code in the wake of the Westar/Palapa B incident... the aerodynamic heads of the RL02 disk drives needed to fly from the disk edge to the hub in one smooth movement, with zero &quot;seek wiggle&quot;, to avoid piling up I/O and crashing the operating system.  This was complicated by the lack of an unsigned integer data type in FORTRAN II, because the disk sector addresses would flip negative after incrementing sector 32767... so I had to eliminate compiler-based bounds checking... anyway, that had to be in the mid to late 80s.

Programming&#039;s different today.  You&#039;ll never see a heavy ferrite drum throw its main bearing, snap its shaft, and go careening destructively through a control bunker any more.  You can&#039;t set your monitor on fire by sending it the wrong frequency signals any more either.  You might as well wear a suit and tie to work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved it when I stumbled across the story of Mel because I actually have programmed a drum using 8 toggle switches.  It was an old SEL though, not a bee, used to test solid fuel rocket motors for missiles and JATO systems.  The part about timing the drum rotation is true.  You had so little space you <i>had</i> to do that kind of stuff!</p>
<p>Coding still required that level of thinking even as late as the 1980s.  I had to use DEC TKB to hand-optimize the compilation of core data aquisition code in the wake of the Westar/Palapa B incident&#8230; the aerodynamic heads of the RL02 disk drives needed to fly from the disk edge to the hub in one smooth movement, with zero &#8220;seek wiggle&#8221;, to avoid piling up I/O and crashing the operating system.  This was complicated by the lack of an unsigned integer data type in FORTRAN II, because the disk sector addresses would flip negative after incrementing sector 32767&#8230; so I had to eliminate compiler-based bounds checking&#8230; anyway, that had to be in the mid to late 80s.</p>
<p>Programming&#8217;s different today.  You&#8217;ll never see a heavy ferrite drum throw its main bearing, snap its shaft, and go careening destructively through a control bunker any more.  You can&#8217;t set your monitor on fire by sending it the wrong frequency signals any more either.  You might as well wear a suit and tie to work!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-614708</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok. am i the only n00b here that does not understand what the program does? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok. am i the only n00b here that does not understand what the program does? </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-615225</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I already wrote something like this in an hospital</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I already wrote something like this in an hospital</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Bell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609607</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your basic fork bomb.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your basic fork bomb.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-610119</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote the original comment about this being C and not C++. Someone wrote that this is valid C++. It is not: &quot;int main()&quot; will work in most C-compilers (they assume it is shorthand for &quot;int main(int)&quot;) with most compiler directives, but not in most C++-compilers (a few will assume it is shorthand for &quot;int main(void)&quot;) where you have to use &quot;int main(void)&quot; or &quot;int main(int argc, char *argv[])&quot;. 

Short version, old style (will work in C++ with &quot;int main(void)&quot;, but then it won&#039;t work in a lot of C-compilers, &quot;int main(int argc, char *argv[])&quot; will work in C++ and with C-compilers that isn&#039;t really, really ancient), untested:

#include &lt;stdio.h&gt;
#include &lt;sys/types.h&gt;
#include &lt;unistd.h&gt;
main(){for(;;) if(fork()) for(;;) puts(&quot;FUCK YO MEMRY&quot;);}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote the original comment about this being C and not C++. Someone wrote that this is valid C++. It is not: &#8220;int main()&#8221; will work in most C-compilers (they assume it is shorthand for &#8220;int main(int)&#8221;) with most compiler directives, but not in most C++-compilers (a few will assume it is shorthand for &#8220;int main(void)&#8221;) where you have to use &#8220;int main(void)&#8221; or &#8220;int main(int argc, char *argv[])&#8221;. </p>
<p>Short version, old style (will work in C++ with &#8220;int main(void)&#8221;, but then it won&#8217;t work in a lot of C-compilers, &#8220;int main(int argc, char *argv[])&#8221; will work in C++ and with C-compilers that isn&#8217;t really, really ancient), untested:</p>
<p>#include <stdio .h><br />
#include <sys /types.h><br />
#include <unistd .h><br />
main(){for(;;) if(fork()) for(;;) puts(&#8220;FUCK YO MEMRY&#8221;);}</unistd></sys></stdio></p>
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		<title>By: Ito Kagehisa</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-611656</link>
		<dc:creator>Ito Kagehisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ab5tract, I recommend Karla Jennings&#039; &quot;The Devouring Fungus&quot;

http://www.amazon.com/Devouring-Fungus-Jennings-Karla/dp/0393307328</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ab5tract, I recommend Karla Jennings&#8217; &#8220;The Devouring Fungus&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Devouring-Fungus-Jennings-Karla/dp/0393307328" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Devouring-Fungus-Jennings-Karla/dp/0393307328</a></p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609867</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For this purpose, wouldn&#039;t recursion be preferable to an infinite loop?

int fym()
{
  fork();
  printf(&quot;har\n&quot;);
  return fym() + 1;
}

int main()
{
  fym();
  return 0;
}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For this purpose, wouldn&#8217;t recursion be preferable to an infinite loop?</p>
<p>int fym()<br />
{<br />
  fork();<br />
  printf(&#8220;har\n&#8221;);<br />
  return fym() + 1;<br />
}</p>
<p>int main()<br />
{<br />
  fym();<br />
  return 0;<br />
}</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609612</link>
		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is great, but totally invented at the Rochester Institute of Technology, where our stairways commonly feature code snippets.

I mean, we&#039;re the school that invented this website:

www.ritporn.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is great, but totally invented at the Rochester Institute of Technology, where our stairways commonly feature code snippets.</p>
<p>I mean, we&#8217;re the school that invented this website:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ritporn.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ritporn.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609615</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s C, not C++.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s C, not C++.</p>
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		<title>By: fishbane</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609616</link>
		<dc:creator>fishbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s perfectly valid C. Of course, that means it is valid C++, too, but... just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s perfectly valid C. Of course, that means it is valid C++, too, but&#8230; just saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Xopher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609872</link>
		<dc:creator>Xopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Ito, he programmed in a box in the middle of the road, and his boss killed him &lt;em&gt;every day.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Ito, he programmed in a box in the middle of the road, and his boss killed him <em>every day.</em></p>
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		<title>By: salvarsan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609617</link>
		<dc:creator>salvarsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quibble:  It&#039;s written in C, not C++.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quibble:  It&#8217;s written in C, not C++.</p>
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		<title>By: valdis</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-612178</link>
		<dc:creator>valdis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you guys trying to &quot;debug&quot; it and fix the infinite loops.  Geez.  Don&#039;t you know *anything*?

It&#039;s quite possible the unknown graffiti artist made the program intentionally buggy - for many years, it was standard practice when posting code that was potentially dangerous to include a subtle bug, so that clueless newbies couldn&#039;t use the exploit as-is.  You had to have enough clue to spot the bug and fix it yourself, which kept the knuckle-walking trolls from using the code to break things without understanding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you guys trying to &#8220;debug&#8221; it and fix the infinite loops.  Geez.  Don&#8217;t you know *anything*?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s quite possible the unknown graffiti artist made the program intentionally buggy &#8211; for many years, it was standard practice when posting code that was potentially dangerous to include a subtle bug, so that clueless newbies couldn&#8217;t use the exploit as-is.  You had to have enough clue to spot the bug and fix it yourself, which kept the knuckle-walking trolls from using the code to break things without understanding.</p>
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		<title>By: mrfoo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609620</link>
		<dc:creator>mrfoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s yer classic fork bomb, though the taunting is an added extra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s yer classic fork bomb, though the taunting is an added extra.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609621</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it&#039;ll compile with warnings... Main function doesn&#039;t return any value xD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;ll compile with warnings&#8230; Main function doesn&#8217;t return any value xD</p>
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		<title>By: aml</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609623</link>
		<dc:creator>aml</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesn&#039;t look C++ specific to me, it looks like Standard C in a unix environment. ( unistd.h and fork() things needing a unix or unix-like environment.)

It also doesn&#039;t look like it would do what the author intended as both the parent and child after the work will go into the infinite for/printf loop and never reiterate in  the infinite while/fork loop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t look C++ specific to me, it looks like Standard C in a unix environment. ( unistd.h and fork() things needing a unix or unix-like environment.)</p>
<p>It also doesn&#8217;t look like it would do what the author intended as both the parent and child after the work will go into the infinite for/printf loop and never reiterate in  the infinite while/fork loop.</p>
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		<title>By: jacob_ewing</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609624</link>
		<dc:creator>jacob_ewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#include&lt;stdio.h&gt;
int main(int argc, char *argv[]){
  printf(&quot;Awesome.\n&quot;);
  return 0;
}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#include<stdio .h><br />
int main(int argc, char *argv[]){<br />
  printf(&#8220;Awesome.\n&#8221;);<br />
  return 0;<br />
}</stdio></p>
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		<title>By: mrfoo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609625</link>
		<dc:creator>mrfoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, illiterate script kiddy graffiti. How appropriate. With this fork bomb, all you have to do to defuse it is to kill the latest created process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, illiterate script kiddy graffiti. How appropriate. With this fork bomb, all you have to do to defuse it is to kill the latest created process.</p>
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		<title>By: Xopher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609626</link>
		<dc:creator>Xopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been a while, but will it even do that?  The variable &#039;ii&#039; is uninitialized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a while, but will it even do that?  The variable &#8216;ii&#8217; is uninitialized.</p>
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		<title>By: glib909</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-610650</link>
		<dc:creator>glib909</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s hilarious :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s hilarious :)</p>
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		<title>By: teapot</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-610139</link>
		<dc:creator>teapot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only on BB could a post about code graf turn into a long discussion about the effectiveness of the code. And only on BB would I enjoy reading it.

The discussion ended up funnier than the post!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only on BB could a post about code graf turn into a long discussion about the effectiveness of the code. And only on BB would I enjoy reading it.</p>
<p>The discussion ended up funnier than the post!</p>
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		<title>By: jacob_ewing</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609630</link>
		<dc:creator>jacob_ewing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s &#039;;;&#039; ie. infinite for loop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s &#8216;;;&#8217; ie. infinite for loop.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/09/c-graffiti.html#comment-609635</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those are semi colons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those are semi colons.</p>
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