Comments on: Mexico: 'net advocates protest internet tax with #internetnecesario http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 16:44:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-617472 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-617472 I live in Mexico, and can say that Mexican politicians are as responsive as American ones- I doubt they read their legislation either. I live in Mexico, and can say that Mexican politicians are as responsive as American ones- I doubt they read their legislation either.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-617490 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-617490 In Mexico, the "traditional media" are scared about the Twitter phenomenom: They just found out that they do not represent the public opinion no more... Now mexican society has a better way to express they needs and opinions without the filters of mexican media corporations... (sorry for my rusty English) In Mexico, the “traditional media” are scared about the Twitter phenomenom: They just found out that they do not represent the public opinion no more… Now mexican society has a better way to express they needs and opinions without the filters of mexican media corporations… (sorry for my rusty English)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-617284 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-617284 Or was it because in previous days Jack Dorsey (the guy who invented Twitter) was in Mexico and Carlos Slim was there too? Carlos Slim is good controlling communications. Or was it because in previous days Jack Dorsey (the guy who invented Twitter) was in Mexico and Carlos Slim was there too? Carlos Slim is good controlling communications.

]]> By: issa http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-617294 issa Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-617294 the taxes were approved early today: http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/634706.html they will affect internet, cable, beer and tobacco, among other products. the taxes were approved early today:
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/634706.html

they will affect internet, cable, beer and tobacco, among other products.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-616830 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-616830 Apply tax on Internet usage in a country like Mexico would slow their development, culture and freedom of expression #internetnecesario <a href="http://www.pateandopiedras.com/?p=17233">Mexicans protests again tax to internet</a> Apply tax on Internet usage in a country like Mexico would slow their development, culture and freedom of expression #internetnecesario

Mexicans protests again tax to internet

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-618368 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-618368 Resident of Mexico here. This new tax will represent a 20 pesos increase in the monthly bill for most users in the country. For people with broadband at home this will barely be felt and with the hundreds of users an internet cafe has a month... I don't think the 20 extra pesos a month will even show up on the costs kids pay. I was a starving college student less than a year ago and I understand how hard it can get but this protest is just reactionary and overblown. Resident of Mexico here. This new tax will represent a 20 pesos increase in the monthly bill for most users in the country. For people with broadband at home this will barely be felt and with the hundreds of users an internet cafe has a month… I don’t think the 20 extra pesos a month will even show up on the costs kids pay.

I was a starving college student less than a year ago and I understand how hard it can get but this protest is just reactionary and overblown.

]]> By: Germanico http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-617097 Germanico Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-617097 Funny thing, even though thousands upon thousands of tweets where sent with #internetnecesario as a hashtag, it didnt became a trending topic on Twitter. Anglocentrism anyone? Funny thing, even though thousands upon thousands of tweets where sent with #internetnecesario as a hashtag, it didnt became a trending topic on Twitter. Anglocentrism anyone?

]]> By: glenn http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-616847 glenn Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-616847 Nice graphic. Where did you get it? Nice graphic. Where did you get it?

]]> By: monosylabik http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-619154 monosylabik Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-619154 How can you say it's overblown when Mexico already has some of the highest internet prices in the world. For the monthly cost of a 4Mbps up DSL connection in Mexico, you could get a 15Mbps connection in the US and still have some money to spare. And consider the US isn't one of the cheapest places to get internet access either. Also, it's not just the 3% increase in cost, don't forget the 1% increase to IVA (the European VAT equivalent) and the 2% increase to the ISR, which means workers will get much less money and everything, not just internet access, will go up. It's not just about the extra 20 pesos in our phone bills, what this tax means is yet another hurdle in the way of getting this invaluable tool to the majority of the population. In the long run, it will just put Mexico even further behind technology wise compared to the world. How can you say it’s overblown when Mexico already has some of the highest internet prices in the world. For the monthly cost of a 4Mbps up DSL connection in Mexico, you could get a 15Mbps connection in the US and still have some money to spare. And consider the US isn’t one of the cheapest places to get internet access either.

Also, it’s not just the 3% increase in cost, don’t forget the 1% increase to IVA (the European VAT equivalent) and the 2% increase to the ISR, which means workers will get much less money and everything, not just internet access, will go up.

It’s not just about the extra 20 pesos in our phone bills, what this tax means is yet another hurdle in the way of getting this invaluable tool to the majority of the population. In the long run, it will just put Mexico even further behind technology wise compared to the world.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-617116 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-617116 The graphic is from http://www.trendsmap.com — real-time local twitter trends :D The graphic is from http://www.trendsmap.com — real-time local twitter trends :D

]]> By: dhchongcuy http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-619177 dhchongcuy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-619177 Hola from México! It's good to see it's finally getting attention not only in mexican sites :) We started a project at http://www.internetnecesario.info/ where we talk about about the cultural/educative, political, rights-related and economic consequences passing the tax bill will have in a country like ours. The debate on the tax issue has originated a "metadebate" (the twitter #internetnecesario phenomenon, for example) that's getting more attention than the problem itself. And that's the thing in Mexico, that's probably why the legislators didn't pay attention to the real consequences themselves. So well, check out the site. @dhchongcuy @_rec @aliviane @demomilton @reginapuma Hola from México! It’s good to see it’s finally getting attention not only in mexican sites :)

We started a project at

http://www.internetnecesario.info/

where we talk about about the cultural/educative, political, rights-related and economic consequences passing the tax bill will have in a country like ours. The debate on the tax issue has originated a “metadebate” (the twitter #internetnecesario phenomenon, for example) that’s getting more attention than the problem itself. And that’s the thing in Mexico, that’s probably why the legislators didn’t pay attention to the real consequences themselves.

So well, check out the site.

@dhchongcuy @_rec @aliviane @demomilton @reginapuma

]]> By: tinoj3 http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-617399 tinoj3 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-617399 This tax is really very bad! I am retired living in Mexico, and I have a 16 yr going to school, and 90% of her homework is done on a computer! Most children here don't have a computer, so they have to go to cyber cafes that charge minimum $10.00 pesos an hour, not counting paper, printing cost, and this tax will be passed on to them! This is a real hardship for most people in this country!!! This tax is really very bad! I am retired living in Mexico, and I have a 16 yr going to school, and 90% of her homework is done on a computer! Most children here don’t have a computer, so they have to go to cyber cafes that charge minimum $10.00 pesos an hour, not counting paper, printing cost, and this tax will be passed on to them! This is a real hardship for most people in this country!!!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/10/20/mexico-net-advocates.html#comment-616902 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-616902 q poca madre impuesto al internet en mexico dios!!!!!!!!! q poca madre impuesto al internet en mexico dios!!!!!!!!!

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