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	<title>Comments on: The White House switch to open source: Tim O&#039;Reilly&#039;s&#160;thoughts</title>
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		<title>By: zyodei</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/27/the-white-house-swit.html#comment-622087</link>
		<dc:creator>zyodei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, you are confusing the idiot Rush Republican government=bad corporate=good. 

However, many corporations got as big as they are and maintain their dominance not through market forces, but because they in effect hire the government to be their hired muscle. Many on the left see government and big business as being opposed, but I find this view unfathomable and unsupportable in the real world. They are best buddies, despite what the propaganda might have one believe.

Hell, even Microsoft has received loads of money from selling NT software to government firms. Their success is not purely the result of the free market (although it largely is). Of course, you can argue that monopolies violate the free market, but in the long term they don&#039;t generally last. It wasn&#039;t the government lawsuits that have broken up the Win/IE monopoly, but rather the strength of products such as Firefox, OSX, and Linux.

The definition of a free market is people having the full range of free choices, and no one being forced to do anything except not harm others, the most basic natural law. The problem with socialism etc. is that it removes choice, and it forces people to do things that they would not otherwise do.

When you see it in this light, open source is absolutely a product of freedom. It is people who see an opening in the market and set out on their own initiative to fill it. It is, in fact, spurred by the entrepreneurial drive - open source developers don&#039;t become billionaires, but many of them have been able to honest jobs for themselves. I can&#039;t think of any way that governments have spurred open source development (other than abstractly, like supporting the Internet), and I can&#039;t imagine any open source movement blooming in, say, the Soviet Union.

For the record, I dual boot my computer - between two version of Linux! I haven&#039;t run MS or Apple software in years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, you are confusing the idiot Rush Republican government=bad corporate=good. </p>
<p>However, many corporations got as big as they are and maintain their dominance not through market forces, but because they in effect hire the government to be their hired muscle. Many on the left see government and big business as being opposed, but I find this view unfathomable and unsupportable in the real world. They are best buddies, despite what the propaganda might have one believe.</p>
<p>Hell, even Microsoft has received loads of money from selling NT software to government firms. Their success is not purely the result of the free market (although it largely is). Of course, you can argue that monopolies violate the free market, but in the long term they don&#8217;t generally last. It wasn&#8217;t the government lawsuits that have broken up the Win/IE monopoly, but rather the strength of products such as Firefox, OSX, and Linux.</p>
<p>The definition of a free market is people having the full range of free choices, and no one being forced to do anything except not harm others, the most basic natural law. The problem with socialism etc. is that it removes choice, and it forces people to do things that they would not otherwise do.</p>
<p>When you see it in this light, open source is absolutely a product of freedom. It is people who see an opening in the market and set out on their own initiative to fill it. It is, in fact, spurred by the entrepreneurial drive &#8211; open source developers don&#8217;t become billionaires, but many of them have been able to honest jobs for themselves. I can&#8217;t think of any way that governments have spurred open source development (other than abstractly, like supporting the Internet), and I can&#8217;t imagine any open source movement blooming in, say, the Soviet Union.</p>
<p>For the record, I dual boot my computer &#8211; between two version of Linux! I haven&#8217;t run MS or Apple software in years.</p>
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		<title>By: franko</title>
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		<dc:creator>franko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[/...waiting to see how someone is going to spin this as a bad thing...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stefan Jones</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/27/the-white-house-swit.html#comment-621854</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@franco:

I&#039;ll give it a try:

&quot;Yet more proof that we are sliding toward marxist stalin-style socialism. All real Americans use Microsoft products, perfected by competition in a free marketplace!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@franco:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give it a try:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet more proof that we are sliding toward marxist stalin-style socialism. All real Americans use Microsoft products, perfected by competition in a free marketplace!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: drew3ooo</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew3ooo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool change I can beleive in, though a Wordpress fan and note that 10 Downing Street started using that cms some time back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool change I can beleive in, though a WordPress fan and note that 10 Downing Street started using that cms some time back.</p>
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		<title>By: Itsumishi</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/27/the-white-house-swit.html#comment-622200</link>
		<dc:creator>Itsumishi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you talking to anyone in particular?

I don&#039;t know any &#039;left-leaning&#039; intelligent person that thinks Big Business and the Government are opposing forces, I think it&#039;s pretty well generally understood that Governments all over the world bend over and take it from big business on a daily basis.

Also, if you can point me in the direction of one of these &#039;free markets&#039; that you speak of I&#039;d be interested in studying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you talking to anyone in particular?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know any &#8216;left-leaning&#8217; intelligent person that thinks Big Business and the Government are opposing forces, I think it&#8217;s pretty well generally understood that Governments all over the world bend over and take it from big business on a daily basis.</p>
<p>Also, if you can point me in the direction of one of these &#8216;free markets&#8217; that you speak of I&#8217;d be interested in studying it.</p>
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		<title>By: SleighBoy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/27/the-white-house-swit.html#comment-621954</link>
		<dc:creator>SleighBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a fail in my book, solely because they chose Drupal. Ugh. You can do a lot better than Drupal and PHP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a fail in my book, solely because they chose Drupal. Ugh. You can do a lot better than Drupal and PHP.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@SleighBoy Drupal and PHP, for all their warts, have been around for years, and they each have matured thru 5+ major versions.  Thus, their warts are well known, many already having known workarounds.

Besides that, choosing Drupal is indeed a calculated political maneuver appeal to populists and technologists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@SleighBoy Drupal and PHP, for all their warts, have been around for years, and they each have matured thru 5+ major versions.  Thus, their warts are well known, many already having known workarounds.</p>
<p>Besides that, choosing Drupal is indeed a calculated political maneuver appeal to populists and technologists.</p>
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		<title>By: Xenu</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/27/the-white-house-swit.html#comment-621756</link>
		<dc:creator>Xenu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wordpress has a great end user experience, BUT the documentation is terrible compared to Drupal&#039;s.  For a big project like this, documentation makes a huge difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WordPress has a great end user experience, BUT the documentation is terrible compared to Drupal&#8217;s.  For a big project like this, documentation makes a huge difference.</p>
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		<title>By: mypalmike</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/27/the-white-house-swit.html#comment-621784</link>
		<dc:creator>mypalmike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The huffpo bit reads like it was written by someone who has never seen a computer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The huffpo bit reads like it was written by someone who has never seen a computer.</p>
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		<title>By: funkendub</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/10/27/the-white-house-swit.html#comment-622067</link>
		<dc:creator>funkendub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know what the WH was running before Drupal? SharePoint, perhaps? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know what the WH was running before Drupal? SharePoint, perhaps? :)</p>
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