Comments on: More on secret copyright treaty: your kids could go to jail for noncommercial music sharing http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 26 May 2013 06:15:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-629763 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-629763 fear. Don't let it consume you. fear. Don’t let it consume you.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-628743 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-628743 Couldn't we find someone from these people's families that are infringing on what they consider copyright. I'm sure someone can figure out a way to let them know their nephew will go to jail from the passing of this law Couldn’t we find someone from these people’s families that are infringing on what they consider copyright. I’m sure someone can figure out a way to let them know their nephew will go to jail from the passing of this law

]]> By: JoshuaTerrell http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-627720 JoshuaTerrell Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-627720 Find the officials responsible for this piece of vampirism. Vote out of office next cycle. Rinse and repeat. Find the officials responsible for this piece of vampirism. Vote out of office next cycle. Rinse and repeat.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-628235 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-628235 Since the MAFIAA are like dogs with bones and never seem to give up on their blind stupidity, I like to see them take this as far as they like. Please, imprison a few tween girls for Hannah Montana songs. Only then will society see the lunacy in their position. As long as everything is grey, they will keep at it, with their settlements and cutoffs and takedowns and youtube random muting. Only by letting them have their way for a brief period can we cleanse ourselves of them. <8) - Wyeth's in captcha! Since the MAFIAA are like dogs with bones and never seem to give up on their blind stupidity, I like to see them take this as far as they like. Please, imprison a few tween girls for Hannah Montana songs. Only then will society see the lunacy in their position.

As long as everything is grey, they will keep at it, with their settlements and cutoffs and takedowns and youtube random muting. Only by letting them have their way for a brief period can we cleanse ourselves of them.

<8) – Wyeth’s in captcha!

]]> By: Jake Medford http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-628747 Jake Medford Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-628747 I have a great idea... stop buying crap from the mult-national corporations that fund the lobbyists who drive these insane agendas. Shop local only. Take away the power with your wallet. I have a great idea… stop buying crap from the mult-national corporations that fund the lobbyists who drive these insane agendas. Shop local only. Take away the power with your wallet.

]]> By: John Hudgens http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-627728 John Hudgens Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-627728 "Jail time...even for fake DVD and CD packaging"? You gotta be kidding me - jail time for fun stuff like, say, Ric Easton's free alternate cover art? (http://www.rixgrafix.com) “Jail time…even for fake DVD and CD packaging”? You gotta be kidding me – jail time for fun stuff like, say, Ric Easton’s free alternate cover art? (http://www.rixgrafix.com)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-629266 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-629266 I urge all artists.. Print, audio, video, sculpture, spoken word, comedians, and others to support an "open source art" initiative. Open source your work and put the mega-conglomerates out of business. I urge all artists.. Print, audio, video, sculpture, spoken word, comedians, and others to support an “open source art” initiative. Open source your work and put the mega-conglomerates out of business.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-628755 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-628755 Why not just go back to the good old days before file sharing online and let your friends "borrow" your cd? They can't control that! Who want's to borow my old Def Leppard tape? Why not just go back to the good old days before file sharing online and let your friends “borrow” your cd? They can’t control that! Who want’s to borow my old Def Leppard tape?

]]> By: Taniwha http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-627733 Taniwha Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-627733 What ever happened to the US's position of "Open covenants openly arrived at ...." What ever happened to the US’s position of “Open covenants openly arrived at ….”

]]> By: HMLEGALPROJECT http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-629781 HMLEGALPROJECT Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-629781 To fight this, consider supporting the work of the Electronic Frontier Foundation at EFF.com, and taking the time to contact your Senators and Representatives in Congress. To fight this, consider supporting the work of the Electronic Frontier Foundation at EFF.com, and taking the time to contact your Senators and Representatives in Congress.

]]> By: VK-member http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-628249 VK-member Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-628249 It's very interesting how they think they could control Internet-access to P2P nets, where one can find a dozens of music and video. Or what they will do with such social networks like facebook or russian VK? I think they just need more donations to "cope" with the ptoblem, but they won't do anything. As always. It’s very interesting how they think they could control Internet-access to P2P nets, where one can find a dozens of music and video. Or what they will do with such social networks like facebook or russian VK? I think they just need more donations to “cope” with the ptoblem, but they won’t do anything. As always.

]]> By: Thac0 http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-627744 Thac0 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-627744 The internet is dangerous because people share information and ideas! They need to kill it and make people fearful of prosecution if they use it so we don't become illuminated to all the crap like this that is going on. The internet is dangerous because people share information and ideas! They need to kill it and make people fearful of prosecution if they use it so we don’t become illuminated to all the crap like this that is going on.

]]> By: AirPillo http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-628000 AirPillo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-628000 This is outraging enough on its own without the out-of-thin-air "your kids" part, you know... This is outraging enough on its own without the out-of-thin-air “your kids” part, you know…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-629798 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-629798 The prisons aren't big enough. And in other news, the publishing industry is at that same threshold the media industry was at when napster popped on the scene. Let's see if they make the same mistake. The prisons aren’t big enough.

And in other news, the publishing industry is at that same threshold the media industry was at when napster popped on the scene. Let’s see if they make the same mistake.

]]> By: afs97209 http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-627755 afs97209 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-627755 #ACTA #copyright EFF.org Time to Act on ACTA! Easy Method to tell your Senator to Open the Secret IP Pact http://bit.ly/bceU4 #ACTA #copyright EFF.org Time to Act on ACTA! Easy Method to tell your Senator to Open the Secret IP Pact http://bit.ly/bceU4

]]> By: afs97209 http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-627758 afs97209 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-627758 #ACTA #copyright EFF.org Time to Act on ACTA! Easy Method to tell your Senator to Open the Secret IP Pact http://bit.ly/bceU4 #ACTA #copyright EFF.org Time to Act on ACTA! Easy Method to tell your Senator to Open the Secret IP Pact http://bit.ly/bceU4

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-628784 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-628784 Hear hear! But they will not go willingly into that good night of change and reform. Drastic things will have to happen first. I think never before in the history of man has there been a truly peaceful and amicable reform and change as you describe. Another word for reform and change is "revolution" which brings to mind a completely different means of achieving reform and change. Technically, it never needs to be that way, but you can expect there to be resistance from those who currently abuse power. Hear hear! But they will not go willingly into that good night of change and reform. Drastic things will have to happen first. I think never before in the history of man has there been a truly peaceful and amicable reform and change as you describe. Another word for reform and change is “revolution” which brings to mind a completely different means of achieving reform and change. Technically, it never needs to be that way, but you can expect there to be resistance from those who currently abuse power.

]]> By: Hybridan http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-627764 Hybridan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-627764 Josh, I think the problem is, at least in the US were I currently reside, is that very few people who would actually do something different then what is currently being done would even run, let alone have even a small chance of being elected. I wish this were not true, and the reasons behind the lack of change in elected offices in the US is a debate that is amazingly broad and varied. But unfortunately, I personally, and I believe many would agree with me, that regardless of who would be elected to at the Federal level would do nothing to change the current problems. H. Josh,
I think the problem is, at least in the US were I currently reside, is that very few people who would actually do something different then what is currently being done would even run, let alone have even a small chance of being elected.

I wish this were not true, and the reasons behind the lack of change in elected offices in the US is a debate that is amazingly broad and varied. But unfortunately, I personally, and I believe many would agree with me, that regardless of who would be elected to at the Federal level would do nothing to change the current problems.
H.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-627767 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-627767 OUTRAGED! Don't they realize that the leading demographic for media such as movies and music are the ones that are also downloading it? Downloading is a great way to sample things you wouldn't normally and THEN go out and buy what you like. Also, as far as movies go... I can either pay $10 to go to over crowded, noisy(little kids and such), less than comfortable theater. Or I can watch it at home lounging on my couch with the ability to pause if I need to grab food or use the restroom. When it comes out to DVD/Blueray, I could pay for disc which is easily scratched, lost, or otherwise rendered useless and is takes up physical space to boot. Or I can get the digital copy which I can archive what ever way I want on a Hard Drive that physical foot print is about equal to 1 DVD case, yet I can fit thousands of movies on. I would gladly pay $10 to watch a new release movie in the comfort of my own home I would gladly pay $20 for a digital copy of the movie once it is released. They just don't tailor to what the public wants... monopoly... blah blah blah... OUTRAGED!

Don’t they realize that the leading demographic for media such as movies and music are the ones that are also downloading it?

Downloading is a great way to sample things you wouldn’t normally and THEN go out and buy what you like.

Also, as far as movies go… I can either pay $10 to go to over crowded, noisy(little kids and such), less than comfortable theater. Or I can watch it at home lounging on my couch with the ability to pause if I need to grab food or use the restroom. When it comes out to DVD/Blueray, I could pay for disc which is easily scratched, lost, or otherwise rendered useless and is takes up physical space to boot. Or I can get the digital copy which I can archive what ever way I want on a Hard Drive that physical foot print is about equal to 1 DVD case, yet I can fit thousands of movies on.

I would gladly pay $10 to watch a new release movie in the comfort of my own home

I would gladly pay $20 for a digital copy of the movie once it is released.

They just don’t tailor to what the public wants… monopoly… blah blah blah…

]]> By: angusm http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-627771 angusm Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-627771 You know, I've been enjoying the War on Drugs and the War on Terror, but they just didn't turn enough of the population into criminals or justify the kind of intrusions into people's lives that I'd really like to see. If only there were something more we could do to criminalize still larger segments of the population, support a massive enforcement bureaucracy (and a lucrative private prison industry) and strip away still more of people's rights in the name of some vague principle or corporate special interest. Wait a minute, I think I have an idea ... You know, I’ve been enjoying the War on Drugs and the War on Terror, but they just didn’t turn enough of the population into criminals or justify the kind of intrusions into people’s lives that I’d really like to see. If only there were something more we could do to criminalize still larger segments of the population, support a massive enforcement bureaucracy (and a lucrative private prison industry) and strip away still more of people’s rights in the name of some vague principle or corporate special interest.

Wait a minute, I think I have an idea …

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-627776 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-627776 Alternately, we can all say "screw it", keep doing it, get arrested, refuse to pay penalties, and further overload a prison system filled with marginal offenders. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Satyagraha#Mass_civil_disobedience The only power anyone has over you, is what you allow them to exercise. Alternately, we can all say “screw it”, keep doing it, get arrested, refuse to pay penalties, and further overload a prison system filled with marginal offenders.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Satyagraha#Mass_civil_disobedience
The only power anyone has over you, is what you allow them to exercise.

]]> By: Sean Hannity http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-627781 Sean Hannity Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-627781 This isn't a problem. I welcome even the most draconian laws against internet file sharing. It's way too crowded now, and what needs to happen is that networks of compromised machines (think Spambots) become repurposed for P2P file sharing. End of problem. This isn’t a problem. I welcome even the most draconian laws against internet file sharing. It’s way too crowded now, and what needs to happen is that networks of compromised machines (think Spambots) become repurposed for P2P file sharing. End of problem.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-629831 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-629831 1984. Just... 25 years too late. 1984.

Just… 25 years too late.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-628040 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-628040 Just when I thought Copyright was at a begrudging stalemate, an administration we thought was on our side turned the tables on us. The digital veins invigorated by technically illegal data sharing propped up a latent online power base that Obama exploited and is now hanging out to dry. The Copyright Industries have made a significant move. Let's make our own: http://brownbourne.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/righteous-theft/ Just when I thought Copyright was at a begrudging stalemate, an administration we thought was on our side turned the tables on us. The digital veins invigorated by technically illegal data sharing propped up a latent online power base that Obama exploited and is now hanging out to dry.

The Copyright Industries have made a significant move. Let’s make our own: http://brownbourne.wordpress.com/2009/11/04/righteous-theft/

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-628300 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-628300 > U.S. and Japan supplied the initial text More specifically, the initial text was supplied by Disney, Sony, Murdoch, GE, Redstone, Time Warner(HBO/WB/TBS/CNN/New Line), Vivendi SA, and Terra Firma Capital Partners. Credit where credit is due. > U.S. and Japan supplied the initial text

More specifically, the initial text was supplied by Disney, Sony, Murdoch, GE, Redstone, Time Warner(HBO/WB/TBS/CNN/New Line), Vivendi SA, and Terra Firma Capital Partners.

Credit where credit is due.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-630354 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-630354 ...And Pirate Party International membership increases ten-fold. …And Pirate Party International membership increases ten-fold.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-628829 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-628829 This sucks. I just reposted this article on my blog along with a few other awesome boingboing articles. This sucks. I just reposted this article on my blog along with a few other awesome boingboing articles.

]]> By: LX http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-628062 LX Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-628062 We are chasing the wrong criminals. I thought a crime was an act so wrongful that the state would have to intervene. Now I find that the worst crimes, like jeopardizing international legal systems in order to slaughter more cash cows, are hardly crimes at all, but lobbyism behind closed doors and international treaties. Greetings, LX We are chasing the wrong criminals. I thought a crime was an act so wrongful that the state would have to intervene. Now I find that the worst crimes, like jeopardizing international legal systems in order to slaughter more cash cows, are hardly crimes at all, but lobbyism behind closed doors and international treaties.

Greetings, LX

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-629343 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-629343 It is about money. Politicians are, at their very core, lobbyist. They are given contributions by different firms with different goals; those who contribute the most to getting the politician re-elected, those who give him the most gifts, well, he stands up for those firms interest as they have done for him. Our votes only count to see who is going to get the biggest paycheck in the end, NOT what is best for the general public. It saddens me to say, the American public has not had a true say in it's governing body in a very long time. It is about money. Politicians are, at their very core, lobbyist. They are given contributions by different firms with different goals; those who contribute the most to getting the politician re-elected, those who give him the most gifts, well, he stands up for those firms interest as they have done for him.

Our votes only count to see who is going to get the biggest paycheck in the end, NOT what is best for the general public.

It saddens me to say, the American public has not had a true say in it’s governing body in a very long time.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/04/more-on-secret-copyr.html#comment-629600 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-629600 There is only one way to stop this people, most of us live in a democratic society, VOTE OUT anyone who supports this. If you are unsure who supports it, write a letter or make a phone call to find out!! There is only one way to stop this people, most of us live in a democratic society, VOTE OUT anyone who supports this. If you are unsure who supports it, write a letter or make a phone call to find out!!

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