Comments on: Man learns that Charles Manson is his biodad http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:02:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Eamonn42 http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-646926 Eamonn42 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-646926 Son of Man. Neil Gaiman wrote a short story about this some time ago. It's in the Smoke and Mirrors collection. Son of Man.
Neil Gaiman wrote a short story about this some time ago. It’s in the Smoke and Mirrors collection.

]]> By: Osprey101 http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-646687 Osprey101 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-646687 The son's bongstache is a nice touch. The son’s bongstache is a nice touch.

]]> By: Sekonda http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-646688 Sekonda Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-646688 Source? Source?

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-646696 Brainspore Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-646696 Something wrong with your browser? Mark linked to a blog post that links to the original article in <em>The Sun.</em> Something wrong with your browser? Mark linked to a blog post that links to the original article in The Sun.

]]> By: pixleshifter http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-646747 pixleshifter Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-646747 any boingers listened to charlie's creative commons album 'one mind'? he does waffle on a bit, but there're a few pretty good grooves happening considering it sounds like he's making it up as he goes along. http://www.limewire.org/zlatin/digg.html i know he's as mad as a box of frogs, but it seems a little unbalanced that he's still inside, seeing as though he never actually killed anyone and was charged with conspiracy and association. there are people who've done far worse who got a lot less time any boingers listened to charlie’s creative commons album ‘one mind’?
he does waffle on a bit, but there’re a few pretty good grooves happening considering it sounds like he’s making it up as he goes along.
http://www.limewire.org/zlatin/digg.html
i know he’s as mad as a box of frogs, but it seems a little unbalanced that he’s still inside, seeing as though he never actually killed anyone and was charged with conspiracy and association.
there are people who’ve done far worse who got a lot less time

]]> By: dculberson http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-646767 dculberson Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-646767 I dunno, I think he's a lot more dangerous than many people that have actually killed someone. The ability - and willingness - to enthrall people and convince them to kill others is a lot more effective than just going around killing them yourself. I dunno, I think he’s a lot more dangerous than many people that have actually killed someone. The ability – and willingness – to enthrall people and convince them to kill others is a lot more effective than just going around killing them yourself.

]]> By: pixleshifter http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-646780 pixleshifter Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-646780 yeah, kinda like george bush? yeah, kinda like george bush?

]]> By: Patrick http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-647558 Patrick Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-647558 "He was convicted of conspiracy to commit the Tate/LaBianca murders, carried out by members of the group at his instruction. He was found guilty of the murders themselves through the joint-responsibility rule, which makes each member of a conspiracy guilty of crimes his fellow conspirators commit in furtherance of the conspiracy's object.[4][5]" wikipedia of course :) Yes freshacconci is correct. To suggest that Manson is in some fashion of diminished responsibility relative to those who actually physically committed the murders is naive in the extreme. The various leaders in the Balkan wars were responsible for the actions of their followers, as much as the leaders in the Rawanda massacre. Trolling becomes no one. “He was convicted of conspiracy to commit the Tate/LaBianca murders, carried out by members of the group at his instruction. He was found guilty of the murders themselves through the joint-responsibility rule, which makes each member of a conspiracy guilty of crimes his fellow conspirators commit in furtherance of the conspiracy’s object.[4][5]”

wikipedia of course :)

Yes freshacconci is correct. To suggest that Manson is in some fashion of diminished responsibility relative to those who actually physically committed the murders is naive in the extreme.

The various leaders in the Balkan wars were responsible for the actions of their followers, as much as the leaders in the Rawanda massacre.

Trolling becomes no one.

]]> By: Jerril http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-646800 Jerril Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-646800 I think George Bush should be in jail too. But one injustice does not excuse another, and Manson gets to sit his fool ass in custody where he at least is kept away from the public. I think George Bush should be in jail too. But one injustice does not excuse another, and Manson gets to sit his fool ass in custody where he at least is kept away from the public.

]]> By: pixleshifter http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-646821 pixleshifter Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-646821 and the crime is.....? and the maximum penalty for such crime is...? and the crime is…..?
and the maximum penalty for such crime is…?

]]> By: kleer001 http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-647089 kleer001 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-647089 Hmmm, I'm not too sure about this. Sounds a little fishy to me. In fact, I call shenanigans. Hmmm, I’m not too sure about this. Sounds a little fishy to me. In fact, I call shenanigans.

]]> By: EH http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-646836 EH Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-646836 you really think manson is capable of "enthralling" anybody anymore? "hummina hummina...whitey..um, you see...we're all just taking our time, you know? the police make pies while the people, and that includes me, and us, and whoever is out there, no matter who, unless they're the enemy, and the enemy is the enemy. you can't get around that. and so we have to do something, to make it so it doesn't happen again and so it doesn't happen in the future and it doesn't every happen in the now. because the now is where things happen and when the man comes down on you, he's going to come down on you now. not in the past, and not in the future. the now is when it happens, so you see..." you really think manson is capable of “enthralling” anybody anymore?

“hummina hummina…whitey..um, you see…we’re all just taking our time, you know? the police make pies while the people, and that includes me, and us, and whoever is out there, no matter who, unless they’re the enemy, and the enemy is the enemy. you can’t get around that. and so we have to do something, to make it so it doesn’t happen again and so it doesn’t happen in the future and it doesn’t every happen in the now. because the now is where things happen and when the man comes down on you, he’s going to come down on you now. not in the past, and not in the future. the now is when it happens, so you see…”

]]> By: freshacconci http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-647119 freshacconci Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-647119 The crime is first degree murder. It's still murder even if you don't do the physical killing: he set up the situation, the motive, in one case tied the victims up. Hitler didn't personally kill anyone either (as far as I know). Is he still responsible for the Holocaust? (And yes, Godwin's Law and all that, but in this case the comparison is somewhat apt, if not in scale). The crime is first degree murder. It’s still murder even if you don’t do the physical killing: he set up the situation, the motive, in one case tied the victims up. Hitler didn’t personally kill anyone either (as far as I know). Is he still responsible for the Holocaust? (And yes, Godwin’s Law and all that, but in this case the comparison is somewhat apt, if not in scale).

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-649170 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-649170 touche! touche!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-649172 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-649172 and the so called son had what to do with this? and the so called son had what to do with this?

]]> By: mikerbaker http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-647639 mikerbaker Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-647639 Darth Manson: *I* am your father. Matthew: No. No. That's not true. That's impossible! Darth Manson: Search your feelings, you *know* it to be true! Matthew: [anguished] No! No! I was willing to take this story at face value - it's certainly plausible - but hearing the skeptics, I'm leaning toward the attention whoring side. Let's see the proof. Darth Manson: *I* am your father.
Matthew: No. No. That’s not true. That’s impossible!
Darth Manson: Search your feelings, you *know* it to be true!
Matthew: [anguished] No! No!

I was willing to take this story at face value – it’s certainly plausible – but hearing the skeptics, I’m leaning toward the attention whoring side. Let’s see the proof.

]]> By: Gorgonzola http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/man-learns-that-char.html#comment-646909 Gorgonzola Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-646909 http://www.metafilter.com/86925/He-looks-just-like-him#2835785 http://www.metafilter.com/86925/He-looks-just-like-him#2835785

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