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		<title>By: tuckels</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647181</link>
		<dc:creator>tuckels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally would rank more than half the people (men and women) i see around town as attractive.</description>
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		<title>By: wch</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647196</link>
		<dc:creator>wch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the interpretation of the graphs is a bit misleading. Based on the data, women are NOT biased toward ugly men. The reason they send more messages to unattractive guys is because there are more unattractive guys -- that is, looks don&#039;t really matter (unless they&#039;re very unattractive, in which case they get fewer messages). 

What would be interesting is the ratio of the two curves -- that is, if I&#039;m an ugly/average/attractive person, how many messages will I receive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the interpretation of the graphs is a bit misleading. Based on the data, women are NOT biased toward ugly men. The reason they send more messages to unattractive guys is because there are more unattractive guys &#8212; that is, looks don&#8217;t really matter (unless they&#8217;re very unattractive, in which case they get fewer messages). </p>
<p>What would be interesting is the ratio of the two curves &#8212; that is, if I&#8217;m an ugly/average/attractive person, how many messages will I receive?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-646951</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well thats my problem then... I&#039;m just to sexy for this Matching site! (don&#039;t correct me, I need this ego boost)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well thats my problem then&#8230; I&#8217;m just to sexy for this Matching site! (don&#8217;t correct me, I need this ego boost)</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-646959</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males arenâ€™t good enough for her&quot; 

Interesting piece to read, but can&#039;t say I agree with this particular sentence. That a woman ranked a man as &quot;worse-looking than medium&quot; doesn&#039;t *necessarily* mean she thinks that he isn&#039;t &quot;good enough&quot; for her. It merely means ... hmm ... that he&#039;s worse-than-medium looking. It&#039;s possible that some women can objectively assess a man&#039;s looks relative to other men she&#039;s seen/known, but still consider him desirable in other ways. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males arenâ€™t good enough for her&#8221; </p>
<p>Interesting piece to read, but can&#8217;t say I agree with this particular sentence. That a woman ranked a man as &#8220;worse-looking than medium&#8221; doesn&#8217;t *necessarily* mean she thinks that he isn&#8217;t &#8220;good enough&#8221; for her. It merely means &#8230; hmm &#8230; that he&#8217;s worse-than-medium looking. It&#8217;s possible that some women can objectively assess a man&#8217;s looks relative to other men she&#8217;s seen/known, but still consider him desirable in other ways. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-646980</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an ugly, I find these results offensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an ugly, I find these results offensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-646983</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...like maybe they have money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;like maybe they have money.</p>
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		<title>By: jfrancis</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-646985</link>
		<dc:creator>jfrancis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see how the unattractive women rate the world, and how they message the world.

Same for the attractive women.

Same for the attractive and unattractive men.

Just to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see how the unattractive women rate the world, and how they message the world.</p>
<p>Same for the attractive women.</p>
<p>Same for the attractive and unattractive men.</p>
<p>Just to see.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottTFrazer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-646986</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottTFrazer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So there&#039;s a few problems I have with this:

1) the 5 point rating thing they mention is Quick Match, and users are asked to rate the match based on the first 4 pictures of their profile and some of the text blurbs they write.  It&#039;s not supposed to be &quot;Hot or Not&quot; The blurbs can be a reason for not ranking someone highly as well.

2) a rating of 4 or 5 on this scale causes a message to be sent to the person that they were ranked highly, showing them 9 profile pictures (1 is the person who ranked them, the other 8 are random) and then they are invited to start ranking people as well. If you rank the person who ranked you as a 4 or 5 a message is sent to both parties informing them of this, presumably as an ice breaker.

3) there&#039;s a &quot;Can&#039;t Tell&quot; button that effective functions as a no rating. I couldn&#039;t tell from the article what they did with profiles in that data set that were ranked &quot;can&#039;t tell&quot;

I personally never click a ranking less than 4 stars. I&#039;ll click Can&#039;t Tell instead. There&#039;s no upside to me to be ranking a woman as unattractive/uninteresting.

I&#039;ve several times gotten the message that someone has ranked me as a 4 or 5. The names of the profiles behind the random additional pictures are available in the source of the email. You can open the quick match side by side with these pictures and pick out in the first 3-5 profiles which was the one who selected you. To date, I&#039;ve only found 1 or 2 of those people interesting enough to select back.

I agree it&#039;s interesting information, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s necessarily being analyzed correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So there&#8217;s a few problems I have with this:</p>
<p>1) the 5 point rating thing they mention is Quick Match, and users are asked to rate the match based on the first 4 pictures of their profile and some of the text blurbs they write.  It&#8217;s not supposed to be &#8220;Hot or Not&#8221; The blurbs can be a reason for not ranking someone highly as well.</p>
<p>2) a rating of 4 or 5 on this scale causes a message to be sent to the person that they were ranked highly, showing them 9 profile pictures (1 is the person who ranked them, the other 8 are random) and then they are invited to start ranking people as well. If you rank the person who ranked you as a 4 or 5 a message is sent to both parties informing them of this, presumably as an ice breaker.</p>
<p>3) there&#8217;s a &#8220;Can&#8217;t Tell&#8221; button that effective functions as a no rating. I couldn&#8217;t tell from the article what they did with profiles in that data set that were ranked &#8220;can&#8217;t tell&#8221;</p>
<p>I personally never click a ranking less than 4 stars. I&#8217;ll click Can&#8217;t Tell instead. There&#8217;s no upside to me to be ranking a woman as unattractive/uninteresting.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve several times gotten the message that someone has ranked me as a 4 or 5. The names of the profiles behind the random additional pictures are available in the source of the email. You can open the quick match side by side with these pictures and pick out in the first 3-5 profiles which was the one who selected you. To date, I&#8217;ve only found 1 or 2 of those people interesting enough to select back.</p>
<p>I agree it&#8217;s interesting information, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s necessarily being analyzed correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Lookforthewoman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-646993</link>
		<dc:creator>Lookforthewoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males arenâ€™t good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway&quot;

This is bad logic. Just because we deem their photos unattractive doesn&#039;t mean we won&#039;t date them or message them. I just means we don&#039;t like their photo.

And frankly, the guys who appear &quot;attractive&quot; on photos are often NOT in real life, and the ones who are &quot;unattractive&quot; in photos often are in real life. An attractive photograph does not an attractive person make.

(I met my bf on Lava, and his picture was not an &quot;attractive&quot; one, but looking at it, I thought &quot;He looks like a jerk, but he looks he&#039;d be fun&quot;. I wasn&#039;t wrong.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;average-looking woman has convinced herself that the vast majority of males arenâ€™t good enough for her, but she then goes right out and messages them anyway&#8221;</p>
<p>This is bad logic. Just because we deem their photos unattractive doesn&#8217;t mean we won&#8217;t date them or message them. I just means we don&#8217;t like their photo.</p>
<p>And frankly, the guys who appear &#8220;attractive&#8221; on photos are often NOT in real life, and the ones who are &#8220;unattractive&#8221; in photos often are in real life. An attractive photograph does not an attractive person make.</p>
<p>(I met my bf on Lava, and his picture was not an &#8220;attractive&#8221; one, but looking at it, I thought &#8220;He looks like a jerk, but he looks he&#8217;d be fun&#8221;. I wasn&#8217;t wrong.)</p>
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		<title>By: Random_Tangent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-646994</link>
		<dc:creator>Random_Tangent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott:
This data may have been collected before the Attractiveness and Personality ratings were merged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott:<br />
This data may have been collected before the Attractiveness and Personality ratings were merged.</p>
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		<title>By: jaruzek</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647000</link>
		<dc:creator>jaruzek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I call bullshit. I never get messaged! I barely even get replies from the uglies.</description>
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		<title>By: keighvin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647009</link>
		<dc:creator>keighvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I find most interesting from the provided graphs is that the distribution is inverted: the message probability of women to men is similar to the men&#039;s attractiveness rating of women, while the message probability from men to women matches a reversal of the women&#039;s assessment of male attractiveness.

It makes me wonder who is providing the ratings and in which context: are the more attractive women (those receiving the highest volume of messages), as a part of the message transaction, also providing rating information on the attractiveness of the senders?  If so you have a disproportionate distribution in that the more attractive women will be providing more of the ratings, and will also be experiencing a higher influx of messages and will therefore be less likely to feel any social consequences from providing that rating.  Additionally, they may be annoyed at receiving many &quot;ur hawt&quot; message and thus further dissociated from a probable positive rating (as previously discussed on BoingBoing from OKCupid: http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/charts-to-help-you-s.html).

Do they offer raw data?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I find most interesting from the provided graphs is that the distribution is inverted: the message probability of women to men is similar to the men&#8217;s attractiveness rating of women, while the message probability from men to women matches a reversal of the women&#8217;s assessment of male attractiveness.</p>
<p>It makes me wonder who is providing the ratings and in which context: are the more attractive women (those receiving the highest volume of messages), as a part of the message transaction, also providing rating information on the attractiveness of the senders?  If so you have a disproportionate distribution in that the more attractive women will be providing more of the ratings, and will also be experiencing a higher influx of messages and will therefore be less likely to feel any social consequences from providing that rating.  Additionally, they may be annoyed at receiving many &#8220;ur hawt&#8221; message and thus further dissociated from a probable positive rating (as previously discussed on BoingBoing from OKCupid: <a href="http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/charts-to-help-you-s.html" rel="nofollow">http://boingboing.net/2009/10/06/charts-to-help-you-s.html</a>).</p>
<p>Do they offer raw data?</p>
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		<title>By: tmdpny</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647268</link>
		<dc:creator>tmdpny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is so funny to me because I have gone on a lot of dates from online sources (I&#039;m a guy).  And talking with women I&#039;ve met online was almost the same story every time.  They want literally everything from a guy when they would talk about what they wanted.  And I would pretty much respond that there are two guys who fit that description - one of them is married and the other is gay...   good luck to you!  lol.  Nice to see numbers behind the stereotype - </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is so funny to me because I have gone on a lot of dates from online sources (I&#8217;m a guy).  And talking with women I&#8217;ve met online was almost the same story every time.  They want literally everything from a guy when they would talk about what they wanted.  And I would pretty much respond that there are two guys who fit that description &#8211; one of them is married and the other is gay&#8230;   good luck to you!  lol.  Nice to see numbers behind the stereotype &#8211; </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647525</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is exactly like the real world. Walk into any room and rate how many women are attractive as opposed to how many men are attractive.  There are almost always more attractive women than men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly like the real world. Walk into any room and rate how many women are attractive as opposed to how many men are attractive.  There are almost always more attractive women than men.</p>
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		<title>By: Azurain</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647014</link>
		<dc:creator>Azurain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;woman send are much more likely to send messages to men who are slightly less-than-average looking&quot;

I&#039;d say this is a little misleading.  The graph is listing the total percentage of men and messages sent.  There are a lot fewer men that are above average, so there will be correspondingly fewer messages sent to those men simply because they&#039;re harder to find.  To state that this means that women are more likely to send messages to less-than-average-looking men suggests that women, given a choice between attractive and below-average, are more likely to message the below-average man, which isn&#039;t what the data shows.

It does, however, show that women aren&#039;t far more likely to message attractive men--they&#039;re just somewhat more likely to do so.

Another interesting perspective to bear in mind is that women don&#039;t necessarily rate the *same* men as attractive/unattractive, whereas men tend to rate the same women the same way, overall.  So the data more likely suggests that women have specific tastes in men and prefer men who match those tastes, but that their tastes vary significantly so that many men would be considered overall below average but above average by a significant number of women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;woman send are much more likely to send messages to men who are slightly less-than-average looking&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say this is a little misleading.  The graph is listing the total percentage of men and messages sent.  There are a lot fewer men that are above average, so there will be correspondingly fewer messages sent to those men simply because they&#8217;re harder to find.  To state that this means that women are more likely to send messages to less-than-average-looking men suggests that women, given a choice between attractive and below-average, are more likely to message the below-average man, which isn&#8217;t what the data shows.</p>
<p>It does, however, show that women aren&#8217;t far more likely to message attractive men&#8211;they&#8217;re just somewhat more likely to do so.</p>
<p>Another interesting perspective to bear in mind is that women don&#8217;t necessarily rate the *same* men as attractive/unattractive, whereas men tend to rate the same women the same way, overall.  So the data more likely suggests that women have specific tastes in men and prefer men who match those tastes, but that their tastes vary significantly so that many men would be considered overall below average but above average by a significant number of women.</p>
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		<title>By: Moriarty</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647020</link>
		<dc:creator>Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This also seems to assume that the members of matchmaking sites are an accurate cross-section of the general population. Perhaps relatively unattractive men really are over-represented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This also seems to assume that the members of matchmaking sites are an accurate cross-section of the general population. Perhaps relatively unattractive men really are over-represented.</p>
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		<title>By: skeletoncityrepeater</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647021</link>
		<dc:creator>skeletoncityrepeater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to sound sexist, but given our societal norms, don&#039;t females tend to put a lot more thought into the pictures they post of themselves online? And conversely, don&#039;t males care less about their online pictures? (I have no survey to back this up.) Wouldn&#039;t this account for some of the skewed bell curve in regards to males?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to sound sexist, but given our societal norms, don&#8217;t females tend to put a lot more thought into the pictures they post of themselves online? And conversely, don&#8217;t males care less about their online pictures? (I have no survey to back this up.) Wouldn&#8217;t this account for some of the skewed bell curve in regards to males?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647022</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;s not that women are harsher in their ratings. Maybe it&#039;s because the men who create profiles in those websites *are* indeed generally worse-looking than the average. As for the distribution of the women, maybe women of all types do create profiles in the websites, or maybe men just think that pretty much whatever they can get is better than nothing (at least for short-term relationships), and thus rate women much more liberally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s not that women are harsher in their ratings. Maybe it&#8217;s because the men who create profiles in those websites *are* indeed generally worse-looking than the average. As for the distribution of the women, maybe women of all types do create profiles in the websites, or maybe men just think that pretty much whatever they can get is better than nothing (at least for short-term relationships), and thus rate women much more liberally.</p>
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		<title>By: ackpht</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647281</link>
		<dc:creator>ackpht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks matter to everyone. 

The difference between men and women is where &quot;looks&quot; are on their list.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks matter to everyone. </p>
<p>The difference between men and women is where &#8220;looks&#8221; are on their list.  </p>
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		<title>By: Piers W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647288</link>
		<dc:creator>Piers W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25

If the medium to most attractive section of the male population recieved proportionally more messages than another section of the population it follows that they&#039;ve been sent proportionally more messages. 

It doesn&#039;t follow that most of the messages sent were sent to them.

Women &quot;are much more likely to send messages to men who are slightly less-than-average looking.&quot; is correct, for this graph, because the majority of them did.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25</p>
<p>If the medium to most attractive section of the male population recieved proportionally more messages than another section of the population it follows that they&#8217;ve been sent proportionally more messages. </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t follow that most of the messages sent were sent to them.</p>
<p>Women &#8220;are much more likely to send messages to men who are slightly less-than-average looking.&#8221; is correct, for this graph, because the majority of them did.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647033</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the &quot;Female Messaging and Male Attractiveness&quot; graph implies that the women didn&#039;t base their messaging on visual attractiveness?  From the figure, we can see that about 30% of the men were rated as a 1 (unattractive), but almost 30% of the messages still went to those men.  

In other words, all of the men still had an equally likely chance of being messaged.  This isn&#039;t exactly the case here since the messaging distribution is shifted slightly to the right compared to the attractiveness distribution.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the &#8220;Female Messaging and Male Attractiveness&#8221; graph implies that the women didn&#8217;t base their messaging on visual attractiveness?  From the figure, we can see that about 30% of the men were rated as a 1 (unattractive), but almost 30% of the messages still went to those men.  </p>
<p>In other words, all of the men still had an equally likely chance of being messaged.  This isn&#8217;t exactly the case here since the messaging distribution is shifted slightly to the right compared to the attractiveness distribution.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647290</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankly, as a woman I can tell everyone this: 

Women pursue men who can fulfill their needs -- attractiveness falls below economic or sexual or emotional fulfillment. If you have all three of these, your face or body are (all but) irrelevant.

Women want relationships including marriage or potentially fatherhood, your commitment level being the primary entry point. 

Pursue what you want, and be honest about it -- the response will reflect, and you will never feel backed into a corner. If all you want is sex, you may not get it, but at least you won&#039;t be ambushed. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, as a woman I can tell everyone this: </p>
<p>Women pursue men who can fulfill their needs &#8212; attractiveness falls below economic or sexual or emotional fulfillment. If you have all three of these, your face or body are (all but) irrelevant.</p>
<p>Women want relationships including marriage or potentially fatherhood, your commitment level being the primary entry point. </p>
<p>Pursue what you want, and be honest about it &#8212; the response will reflect, and you will never feel backed into a corner. If all you want is sex, you may not get it, but at least you won&#8217;t be ambushed. </p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647042</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if it gives ugly chaps a second chance, I don&#039;t really see a huge problem. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if it gives ugly chaps a second chance, I don&#8217;t really see a huge problem. </p>
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		<title>By: Karl Jones</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647298</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Men view women as visual treats above all ...&quot;

I know what you&#039;re saying, and I like looking at women as much as the next guy likes looking at women.

But not as much as I like touching and tasting women. Visual stimulus is an appetizer. Touch and taste make up the main course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Men view women as visual treats above all &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I know what you&#8217;re saying, and I like looking at women as much as the next guy likes looking at women.</p>
<p>But not as much as I like touching and tasting women. Visual stimulus is an appetizer. Touch and taste make up the main course.</p>
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		<title>By: shutz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647043</link>
		<dc:creator>shutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first reaction, upon seeing the Male -&gt; Female message distribution was: &quot;reverse uncanny valley!&quot;  It&#039;s not quite right here, but if the ratings were of a more continuous nature, instead of being discrete, we might be able to analyze what occurs close to the very right edge of the graph, where girls that just seem too perfect become a major turn-off (or they frighten most guys away), but perhaps this reverses at the point where perfection is reached and more guys would contact the #1-rated girl, or something like that.

Interesting results, in any case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first reaction, upon seeing the Male -> Female message distribution was: &#8220;reverse uncanny valley!&#8221;  It&#8217;s not quite right here, but if the ratings were of a more continuous nature, instead of being discrete, we might be able to analyze what occurs close to the very right edge of the graph, where girls that just seem too perfect become a major turn-off (or they frighten most guys away), but perhaps this reverses at the point where perfection is reached and more guys would contact the #1-rated girl, or something like that.</p>
<p>Interesting results, in any case.</p>
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		<title>By: Captdrastic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647315</link>
		<dc:creator>Captdrastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an OKCupid member, I tend to be a pretty big champion of them.  But int his case, I don&#039;t think I can.

The way that looks ratings work on that site is that you rate the other person a 4 or higher (on a scale of 5), AND the other person does the same to you, it notifies both of you.

And I think it&#039;s that knowledge of notification that skews the data.

I rate almost anyone I&#039;d put my penis in as a 4.  Which I guess makes me a bigger slut, and a bit more sad than the average man on the site.  (Data is data, man.  It&#039;s not personal.)

But my guess is that women on OKCupid, knowing that a 4 leads to a notification, rate men lower unless they&#039;re really sure they do want said penises put into them.  No point in inciting the desperate bro-bags like myself.  (I just threw up in my mouth a little, coining the term bro-bag.  Sorry about that y&#039;all.)  So they only rate someone as a 4 or higher, if they are more than a little certain that with a couple of drinks (or prayer, if you&#039;re into the weird shit) that they want to get busy with them.

My evidence...  It&#039;s scant and circumstantial at best.  But I do know this.  I tend to get higher ratings and more open flirtations with people who live outside of 300 miles or so.  Less danger.  Or sample error.  Fair enough.

And for the record.  I&#039;m not ugly.  My profile is funny and clever.  Or so I&#039;ve been told.  Check out twenty3skidoo on OKCupid, and tell me what you&#039;d rate me.  Because I just may be a gross married uggo talking out of his ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an OKCupid member, I tend to be a pretty big champion of them.  But int his case, I don&#8217;t think I can.</p>
<p>The way that looks ratings work on that site is that you rate the other person a 4 or higher (on a scale of 5), AND the other person does the same to you, it notifies both of you.</p>
<p>And I think it&#8217;s that knowledge of notification that skews the data.</p>
<p>I rate almost anyone I&#8217;d put my penis in as a 4.  Which I guess makes me a bigger slut, and a bit more sad than the average man on the site.  (Data is data, man.  It&#8217;s not personal.)</p>
<p>But my guess is that women on OKCupid, knowing that a 4 leads to a notification, rate men lower unless they&#8217;re really sure they do want said penises put into them.  No point in inciting the desperate bro-bags like myself.  (I just threw up in my mouth a little, coining the term bro-bag.  Sorry about that y&#8217;all.)  So they only rate someone as a 4 or higher, if they are more than a little certain that with a couple of drinks (or prayer, if you&#8217;re into the weird shit) that they want to get busy with them.</p>
<p>My evidence&#8230;  It&#8217;s scant and circumstantial at best.  But I do know this.  I tend to get higher ratings and more open flirtations with people who live outside of 300 miles or so.  Less danger.  Or sample error.  Fair enough.</p>
<p>And for the record.  I&#8217;m not ugly.  My profile is funny and clever.  Or so I&#8217;ve been told.  Check out twenty3skidoo on OKCupid, and tell me what you&#8217;d rate me.  Because I just may be a gross married uggo talking out of his ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Architexas</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647073</link>
		<dc:creator>Architexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a member of OkCupid, and I&#039;ve got to say that, for my criteria anyways, more Quickmatches pop up that are &quot;undesirable&quot; in my opinion than are desirable.  Is it always because I find them physically unattractive?  No, definitely not.  Most often, it&#039;s because their personality blurbs are rife with misspellings and poor punctuation, or they present themselves as being on a fast-track to nowhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a member of OkCupid, and I&#8217;ve got to say that, for my criteria anyways, more Quickmatches pop up that are &#8220;undesirable&#8221; in my opinion than are desirable.  Is it always because I find them physically unattractive?  No, definitely not.  Most often, it&#8217;s because their personality blurbs are rife with misspellings and poor punctuation, or they present themselves as being on a fast-track to nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Nelson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647074</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see a study about whether someone will like music more if they think the singer/musician is attractive. This would seem to be impirically true, but is it actually? And if so, what about authors, programmers, etc.?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see a study about whether someone will like music more if they think the singer/musician is attractive. This would seem to be impirically true, but is it actually? And if so, what about authors, programmers, etc.?</p>
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		<title>By: anthropomorphictoast</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647591</link>
		<dc:creator>anthropomorphictoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have a OKC profile, and what you said about the rating system in Quickmatch is true (well, in my case, at least. I cannot speak for OKC sistahs.) If I think the guy seems alright, I&#039;ll give him a score high enough that he&#039;ll have a good score, but also not high enough that he&#039;ll be notified of my existence. Unless the guy&#039;s profile is made of complete win and awesome, I usually do not give out 4 stars. 
In addition to this, I have a very sharpened sense for recognizing an Asshole. No matter how good looking the guy is, if his profile suggests that he&#039;s a Jackass, I&#039;m going to give the sucker a low score out of sheer spite. That might seem judgmental, but I seriously doubt that any of those guys would choose a bookish lady like myself over some cute jock concubine with a boob job. 

So, as you can see, I, as a female, take into consideration more than just looks when rating guys, with the addition of other factors such as my mood, perception of personality, motive, current barometric pressure, etc..

All that said, twenty3skidoo is adorable. :3</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have a OKC profile, and what you said about the rating system in Quickmatch is true (well, in my case, at least. I cannot speak for OKC sistahs.) If I think the guy seems alright, I&#8217;ll give him a score high enough that he&#8217;ll have a good score, but also not high enough that he&#8217;ll be notified of my existence. Unless the guy&#8217;s profile is made of complete win and awesome, I usually do not give out 4 stars.<br />
In addition to this, I have a very sharpened sense for recognizing an Asshole. No matter how good looking the guy is, if his profile suggests that he&#8217;s a Jackass, I&#8217;m going to give the sucker a low score out of sheer spite. That might seem judgmental, but I seriously doubt that any of those guys would choose a bookish lady like myself over some cute jock concubine with a boob job. </p>
<p>So, as you can see, I, as a female, take into consideration more than just looks when rating guys, with the addition of other factors such as my mood, perception of personality, motive, current barometric pressure, etc..</p>
<p>All that said, twenty3skidoo is adorable. :3</p>
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		<title>By: Architexas</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2009/11/24/online-matchmaking-s.html#comment-647082</link>
		<dc:creator>Architexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should have mentioned - I&#039;m a gal, looking for a guy.  </description>
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