Watch America's public domain video treasures, rescue the public domain from paywalls

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13 Responses to “Watch America's public domain video treasures, rescue the public domain from paywalls”

  1. pixleshifter says:

    i love this old, dry footage.
    the archive.org link appears not to be working though. possibly an archive.org error

  2. Eric Smith says:

    The video “The Pueblo Incident” seems very relevant to the Wikipedia article about the Pueblo, so I’ve added a link from the article to the video. I’d never have found this if it was only available for purchase from a commercial vendor. Even if I’d known that the video was available commercially and added that information to the Wikipedia article, I doubt that most readers of the article would have been willing and able to purchase the video.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pueblo_(AGER-2)

  3. Anonymous says:

    Archives search seems to be down right now

  4. TJJohn12 says:

    When I was doing some research in College Park, I liberated some video footage of the 100th Anniversary of the Gettysburg Address, as well as a nice chunk of newsreel:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIg61F4vY5U

    NARA has some really great film footage, and they are in the process of dubbing much of it from SuperVHS to DVD for easy access by researchers (and thereby easy copying by researchers). I copied this over from SuperVHS to DVD myself using a rig they have onsite, then ripped it to the PC later on.

    Anyone can go into the archives at College Park, MD, so if you’re in the area and want to have a day worth of historic video watching fun, drop by. I’m hopeful that NARA can get most of this online, but I’m beginning to see how long these things take in the government.

  5. Magister says:

    Unless I’m missing something…

    Amazon has a non-exclusive right to reproduce the footage onto disks. Their rights to the material is non-exclusive because it’s public domain and anyone could do the same with equal footing.

    The actual disks have a cost. The government isn’t going to underwrite the cost of producing, reproducing and distributing disks. Now, technology has advanced to the point that the material could be archived and streamed, but someone would have to prepare the material for streaming which would come at a cost and in this instance, Mr. Malamud has provided that service.

    Perhaps Congress could be persuaded to finance the transference of the remaining material, but that would also come at a cost and would have to be budgeted.

    As a taxpayer, I would object to any one company (Google/YouTube) having exclusive streaming rights, so if the electronic encoding were to occur on the government dime, it would need to be prepared in a format that could stream via any service (current and future), or it would need to exist on a government server.

    Way back in the early days of the internet, myself and hundreds of others took government-prepared, public domain documents and had them typed into an electronic format, so they could be served on our websites. We underwrote this effort with the promise of advertising and there were no limits on who was doing it, we just had to obtain the material and pay for the encoding ourselves.

    IOW: I don’t see any kind of evil plot. Up until relatively recently, disks were the most efficient way to make this material available and Amazon seized an opportunity. Obviously the technology now exists to stream the material, but unless an army of volunteers were to appear, it’ll have to be paid for and if tax dollars will be used for this effort, Congress would have to provide for it and no one company could benefit.

    Though of course, if Google, Microsoft or somebody wanted provide this service, they’d just be doing the same as Amazon (on equal footing) and the project could be started tomorrow.

    • Magister says:

      BTW: I realize that Mr. Malamud hasn’t implied an “evil plot” and I fully support his efforts. Thus far, Amazon has been the only player because they have a way to pay for it. Hopefully, Mr. Malamud can convince Congress to go the rest of the way.

  6. CarlMalamud says:

    Together, we were able to sell out the public domain. All 153 videos have been purchased. Thanks to everybody for your support. We’ll start ripping these as they arrive and post them on the net.

  7. Kevin Kenny says:

    Is it inevitable that we are moving into an age where the Public Domain is government property, and may be sold to the highest bidder? It would not surprise me in the least if the next round of copyright law allows the government to reappropriate the public domain, giving the latecomers an even greater windfall as long as the government gets to share in the take.

    And similarly, I fully expect some court, someday, to rule that releasing under a Creative Commons or similar license is manifest intent to deed the work to the public domain – that is, the government. That will let Big Content simply buy out the free competition.

  8. Anonymous says:

    HAving been an employee of NARA, I don’t think any of you really understand what incredible tiny budgets the agency works with and the quality of the staff that they’re able to keep with those budgets. The day I left NARA in the 90s I almost tripled my salary from $19k to $55k per year.

    These public/private partnerships brought in needed equipment and staff to get the job done that couldn’t get done under the budgets.

    the concept that anyone has “rescued” footage from NARA, however, is uneducated, naive and insulting. Anyone suggesting that simply DOES NOT GET IT.

  9. Ian70 says:

    You can tell you’re Canadian (like me) cuz you bought a DVD and uploaded it to the net.. you communist. :)

    Fight the good fight, Mr Glasses.

  10. Johan Oomen says:

    if you like this, you’ll love: http://www.openimages.eu/.en

    “Open Images is an open media platform that offers online access to audiovisual archive material to stimulate creative reuse.”

  11. Anonymous says:

    ref.: #10

    Halas, last time i checked, all ina.fr videos were not free. For some, you can only view short crap abstracts and if you want the integral video you have to fork money to dwnload it.

  12. Anonymous says:

    I support your cause. In France they have à whole website with videos from all the history of television. It has been pretty succesful thus far.

    http://www.ina.fr/

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