The elephant in the testing room

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73 Responses to “The elephant in the testing room”

  1. codeman38 says:

    Reminds me of this quiz from a Georgia Tech calculus class, which I’ve seen floating around the net:

    http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~mfuqua3/calc_quiz.jpg

    • Anonymous says:

      I strongly doubt that this one it real. Both pens are written in identical handwriting. There’s only a first name (and it doesn’t appear that the last name has been blotted out). The scoring system for the exam as written makes no sense either.

    • Anonymous says:

      Looks like the same person, different ink colour. Look at the f’s and the e’s. Very similar…

  2. Anonymous says:

    2 / (x+1)

  3. Zadaz says:

    I feel like everyone doing the math is getting an A+ at missing the point. Bonus points for not knowing fun when it stares at them from an elephant drawing.

  4. Nelson.C says:

    That elephant has a tail, look, it’s tucked in underneath its body.

  5. Anonymous says:

    I repeated my year for this equation: x^5+x+1

    After in my university my teacher can´t do this too…

  6. Anonymous says:

    X^2 +8x +7 factorises to (x+7)(x+1) so we times the right side top and bottom by x+1, giving ((5x+17)-3(x+1))/(x^2+8x+7). this simplifies to 2x+14/(x^2+8x+7). we know the bottom and top both have a factor of (x+7) so we cancel, giving 2/(x+1)

    I think.

  7. Anonymous says:

    Haha. Excellent excuse. Theres a website of these I think, can’t remember it.

    @joeposts: x^2 + 8x + 7 factorises to (x+1)(x+7). You then convert it to partial fractions.

  8. hibob42 says:

    Without an ” = 0″ at the end of the equation, I think an elephant is about the best I could do as well.

    • sabik says:

      Well, you could simplify it — put it on a common denominator then add up the top. That gives 2(x+7)/(x+1)(x+7), whereupon the (x+7) cancels out, unless x is -7, giving 2/(x+1). After that, it depends on what the beginning of the question said.

      Of course, the other question is whether a student might not be expected to have somewhat better drawing skill and hand-writing at that level.

  9. Anonymous says:

    2x-4 / x^2+8x+7

    Did I get it right? Because I’m mostly twisty on frosty Stellas.

  10. Anonymous says:

    It’s not an equation. There’s no = sign present.

  11. Anonymous says:

    I believe the answer is 2…

    (5x + 17 – 3x – 3) \ (x – 1)(x + 7)

    (2x + 14) \ (x + 7) = 2

  12. davide405 says:

    The problem presented to the student is to simplify the expression, not to “solve” it. The instructor is hoping that the student will recognize that the trinomial that is the denominator of the first algebraic fraction has, as one of its factors, the binomial that is the denominator of the second algebraic fraction. The task of finding a common denominator hinges upon that recognition.

  13. Eva says:

    I hope nobody gets in trouble!!! besides the name is not visible on the test.
    Writing the name of the school in the comments is not that discreet though.
    At any rate, a big elephant would have fit in my test yesterday better than one answer I made up!
    Ciao Eva

  14. Xenu says:

    There’s an entire website of these:
    http://funnyexam.com/

  15. joeposts says:

    I’m stuck at 2x^2 + 41x + 163. I think I’m way off base.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Elephants do have tails. Do google an image of an elephant.

  17. Anonymous says:

    the question may not need “=0″ at the end. We don’t know what the question is. It may have been a “simplify this” type of question. in that case, the answer is
    2/(x+1)

  18. Anonymous says:

    And the expression shown simplifies to:

    2/(x+1)

    Fun problem!

  19. shrocket says:

    Anonymous #26: I would pay you $5 for a copy of that paper!

  20. Anonymous says:

    The answer is 2/(x+1) I think.

  21. Anonymous says:

    Don’t worry about solving for x, just simplify. If I remember what I’m doing it should reduce to (x+7)^2.

  22. hhype says:

    I think the idea is to simplify the expression.

    Notice that the denominator of the first term is

    x^2+8x+7 = (x+1)(x+7)

    (x+7) is the common factor, so multiply the term after the minus sign by (x+1)/(x+1) (by 1) so that it can all have the same denominator.

    nominator is now
    5x+17-3(x+1)
    5x+17-3x-3
    2x+14
    2(x+7)
    (suspicious how that x+7 appeared there)

    2(x+7)/((x+1)(x+7))

    canceling x+7 out of the nominator and denominator leaves

    2/(x+1)

    By the way this can’t ever equal zero, hibob42. The elephant is the big divide by zero error you would get if you tried it.

    Also try to avoid x=-1 in the above equation for the same reason.

    I miss algebra.

    • sabik says:

      try to avoid x=-1 in the above equation

      Also remember to avoid x=-7. You probably shouldn’t cancel out the (x+7) without saying that you have to avoid x=-7 (and possibly dealing with the x=-7 case separately, though in this case that just means noting that there’s a discontinuity).

    • Caroline says:

      Nicely done, hhype. Math is fun because through a logical process, you can take something complicated and make it into something much easier to deal with. Very satisfying.

      Its use in physics and engineering is even more fun to me, because you set up a problem that describes something in real life, apply some mathematical rules, and suddenly something pops out that tells you exactly what’s going on. Doing derivations was always the coolest part of physics lecture courses. (Of course labs were more fun.)

      Assume a spherical elephant…

      And sabik — depending on the school, kids can do algebra at relatively young ages. I took algebra at age 12, and I think it’s possible even younger. I’d buy the drawing and handwriting as that of a 12-year-old — and the sense of humor.

    • Anonymous says:

      Technically you are right, x =/= 0 but, if you take a limit of that equation, then as x approaches infinity, the equation approaches zero.

  23. Anonymous says:

    You’re probably required to reduce the expression to its simplest form, which I think is 2/(x+1).

  24. Anonymous says:

    Okay… this teacher teaches at my high school, Neuqua Valley High School in Naperville IL. It’s a small world after all.

  25. Talia says:

    This thread makes my head hurt.

    Unicorn chaser to fix too much math? :p

  26. Anonymous says:

    ABC + CNN/BBC = Fox*Disney/2

  27. Anonymous says:

    The answer is 2/(x+1) EXCEPT at x=-7, where it is undefined.

    Remember, when you start from

    2(x+7)/[(x+7)(x+1)]

    and cancel the (x+7) in the numerator and denominator, you’re possibly dividing the numerator and denominator by 0, effectively trying to cancel out a 0/0. This happens for the above expression when x+7=0, or x=-7.

  28. Anonymous says:

    … perspective. the elephant is curving its body, you can’t see the tail on the other side.

  29. Anonymous says:

    As much as I find this to be fairly funny, as a teacher I’m also a wee bit concerned. It is a pretty serious ethics breach to post a student’s work online without their permission. At any rate, each jurisdiction has its own rules, and I sincerely hope that Hemant Mehta isn’t violating her code of conduct. Some of you may laugh, but it is amazing what teachers can get in trouble for these days.

    • sabik says:

      It is a pretty serious ethics breach to post a student’s work online without their permission.

      Not to mention copyright infringement…

  30. Ignatz says:

    Ummmm…42?

    I’m in the same boat as Arborman, apparently.

  31. Anonymous says:

    You guys are making this math way too hard. It only took me a few seconds:

    http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=simplify+%285x%2B17%29%2F%28x^2%2B8x%2B7%29-3%2F%28x%2B7%29

  32. Anonymous says:

    How did they get a “before” copy of the test?

    Obvious fail is obvious!

  33. Anonymous says:

    I swear I had a physics teacher in Wisconsin who would give you +1 for any cutely drawn animal. I ended up with a d- both semesters and the ability to draw a variety of cute bunny rabbits.

  34. Anonymous says:

    The answer is 2/(x+1). Now to figure out how to show my work!

    [(5x+7)/(x+1)(x+7)]-[3/(x+7)]
    [(5x+7)/(x+1)(x+7)]- {3(x+1)/[(x+1)(x+7)]}
    [(5x+7)/(x+1)(x+7)]- {(3x+3)/[(x+1)(x+7)]}
    [(5x+7 -3x-3)]/[(x+1)(x+7)]
    (2x+14)/[(x+1)(x+7)]
    2/(x+1)
    Never had to type out the answers when I had algebra 50yrs ago…oy!

  35. max says:

    HEY DUDES I FIGURED IT OUT: 2/(x+1). don’t worry everyone, all speculation can be put to rest, because i have solved the question, i am so smrt.

  36. randomcat says:

    Gah! I got as far as (2x + 14)/((x + 1)(x + 7)) but somehow didn’t see I could factor out the 2, though now it’s painfully obvious. Thanks for the fun guys, it’s been a while.

  37. Anonymous says:

    DUDE THAT IS SO HILARIOUS HAHAHAHA

  38. Anonymous says:

    I would have said “I’ll give you partial credit if you tell me where you get your acid.”

    I did actually write a paper in college on William Blake while on LSD (seemed logical at the time), and it was only slightly less ridiculous than this.

  39. Anonymous says:

    Whats hilarious is that this is obviously a JOKE and you guys either solve the math prolem or point out other errors in logic or credibility. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU ABOVE ME IS A BLATANTLY JOYLESS NERD!!!!!!!
    I thought it was cute. The truth never stands in the way of a good story.

  40. gilowyn says:

    Ahhhh… reminds me of my school days. I once got a single pity point (out of 15) for handing in an otherwise empty Turbo Pascal exam with a drawing of a croissant.

    Mind you, my art work was better.

  41. Anonymous says:

    @#55 but at x=-7 you are dividing 0 by 0, so why would it be undefined?
    Sure, x/0 is undefined (infinity), but x=0 in this case.
    Long time no algebra for me, but seems ok to divide 0 by any number, znd getting 0
    what is the rule?

  42. Anonymous says:

    I will never solve a problem like this. I’d pay people like you to do it for me then on sell the answer to others for an administration fee.

  43. Anonymous says:

    Huh? I don’t get it. Does this school happen to be near a certain Denver restaurant?

  44. Anonymous says:

    @#57: 0/0 is undefined — or more specifically, indeterminate. You mentioned the “rule” that zero divided by anything is zero; but we also know the rule that anything divided by zero is undefined. And don’t forget that anything divided by itself is one. So should 0/0 be undefined, zero, or one?

    To resolve this, we must have an explicit definition of division; usually, we take it to be the inverse of multiplication. “6/2 = ?” is essentially “? x 2 = 6″; the number in question is obviously 3. Now, 0/3 = 0 since 0 is the number we multiply by 3 to get 0, but 3/0 is undefined, since there’s no number that works here: any number times 0 is 0, not 3! But if we look at 0/0, we have the question of what number times 0 gives 0 — and that, clearly, could be anything. Unless we have proper context (see l’Hospital’s Rule), we cannot determine a value for 0/0.

    (My apologies if this has already been addressed; I don’t know how long the moderation lag may be.)

  45. tim says:

    I’m in the same boat as Arborman, apparently.

    Hmm, if you can’t at least make a reasonable pass at algebra I don’t think you an really claim to have achieved adulthood.

  46. arborman says:

    I’d say I have forgotten all my algebra, but I never really learned it in the first place.

    Somehow I have survived into middle adulthood.

  47. Anonymous says:

    x/(x+1)
    D.W.

  48. joeposts says:

    I can’t do that problem because I’ve apparently forgotten how to do algebra. I had a feeling this would happen.

  49. Anonymous says:

    if Hemant Mehta fails at teaching a student how to solve something so remarkably easy, tail less elephant or not, he should resign as math teacher. Maybe he’d do well as teacher of Natural Sciences…

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