Comments on: SFPD won't investigate hit-and-run car-v-bike accident http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Mon, 20 May 2013 06:23:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: n8zilla http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666378 n8zilla Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666378 maybe "critical mass rides" are different in SF; but here in LA, they generate little sympathy amongst the 4 wheel set. of course i'm aware i need to share the road with bikes... i ride one myself, and i like it when people don't try and run me down; but i'm not quite sure how blocking intersections, running lights and snarling traffic on purpose is supposed to make anything better... maybe “critical mass rides” are different in SF; but here in LA, they generate little sympathy amongst the 4 wheel set. of course i’m aware i need to share the road with bikes… i ride one myself, and i like it when people don’t try and run me down; but i’m not quite sure how blocking intersections, running lights and snarling traffic on purpose is supposed to make anything better…

]]> By: solitaire http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666380 solitaire Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666380 <blockquote>This is 'merica.</blockquote> Daaaaamn right. <blockquote>Everyone has a car</blockquote> No, and not everyone needs a car. <blockquote>...and the bicyclists are a bunch of hipsters.</blockquote> This is also untrue. Hipsters on candy colored fixed gears (and neon lycra clad roadies for that matter) might be the loudest cyclists on the road but there are also a lot of people using their bikes to get places and do things because that's what bikes are for. This is perfectly normal behavior. Drivers shouldn't be able to get a free pass on running into a someone on a bike simply by leaving the scene of the crime. It is not open season on cyclists (not even the hipsters). <blockquote>JWZ has plenty of cash</blockquote> This does not make him invulnerable.

This is ‘merica.

Daaaaamn right.

Everyone has a car

No, and not everyone needs a car.

…and the bicyclists are a bunch of hipsters.

This is also untrue. Hipsters on candy colored fixed gears (and neon lycra clad roadies for that matter) might be the loudest cyclists on the road but there are also a lot of people using their bikes to get places and do things because that’s what bikes are for. This is perfectly normal behavior. Drivers shouldn’t be able to get a free pass on running into a someone on a bike simply by leaving the scene of the crime. It is not open season on cyclists (not even the hipsters).

JWZ has plenty of cash

This does not make him invulnerable.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-673804 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-673804 this is tremendously sad in every level. if i ever get hit and dont live to tell, this is NOT how i wanna be rememebr, by the case that just *mehg* ignored because I was on a bicycle and I was just such much a less citizen. this beyond enrages me. this is tremendously sad in every level. if i ever get hit and dont live to tell, this is NOT how i wanna be rememebr, by the case that just *mehg* ignored because I was on a bicycle and I was just such much a less citizen.

this beyond enrages me.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666382 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666382 SFPD doesn't prosecute hit and run on cyclists, but does confiscate laptops of DJs. Super lame, and what a shame! SFPD doesn’t prosecute hit and run on cyclists, but does confiscate laptops of DJs. Super lame, and what a shame!

]]> By: wood29 http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666386 wood29 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666386 Is it specifically because this is a car versus a bike, or because nobody was seriously injured ? Maybe the SFPD (or the DA) have a policy of only investigating road accidents where people were injured or killed ? I'm not saying that's okay, I'm just saying it's a possibility. Is it specifically because this is a car versus a bike, or because nobody was seriously injured ?

Maybe the SFPD (or the DA) have a policy of only investigating road accidents where people were injured or killed ?

I’m not saying that’s okay, I’m just saying it’s a possibility.

]]> By: mgfarrelly http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666387 mgfarrelly Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666387 A few things I've found from dealing with cops in regards car/bike altercations -If there's not a traumatic injury (broken bones, cracked skull) it's hard to get taken seriously without a cop seeing the incident. The assumption by many cops being that bruises and welts are just part and parcel of urban cycling. Note the cop in the blog post who says they assume cyclists are at fault. -Pictures of everything: They got a paramedics report, which is good. Pictures of injuries are vital in any assault. A good friend of mine was able to get a case prosecuted and get an out of court settlement largely because of the photos of her injuries taken right on the scene. -Don't assume malice when laziness will do: Hit and run is a stat-bumping crime. It's a violent crime, it's a "quality of life" crime and it's the sort of thing that can hurt a "safe city" image. Cops are trained to talk down or avoid these sorts of cases whenever possible. Especially in "nice" neighborhoods where an increase in violent crime would be noticed. Better to let a case fall by the wayside as "he said/she said" than risk upsetting the apple cart. Sad but true. -Bike cops: It might be worth the victims time to track down a bike cop. They might lend a more sympathetic ear. I know that here in Chicago they're much easier to deal with than the cruisers or station cops. A few things I’ve found from dealing with cops in regards car/bike altercations

-If there’s not a traumatic injury (broken bones, cracked skull) it’s hard to get taken seriously without a cop seeing the incident. The assumption by many cops being that bruises and welts are just part and parcel of urban cycling. Note the cop in the blog post who says they assume cyclists are at fault.

-Pictures of everything: They got a paramedics report, which is good. Pictures of injuries are vital in any assault. A good friend of mine was able to get a case prosecuted and get an out of court settlement largely because of the photos of her injuries taken right on the scene.

-Don’t assume malice when laziness will do: Hit and run is a stat-bumping crime. It’s a violent crime, it’s a “quality of life” crime and it’s the sort of thing that can hurt a “safe city” image. Cops are trained to talk down or avoid these sorts of cases whenever possible. Especially in “nice” neighborhoods where an increase in violent crime would be noticed. Better to let a case fall by the wayside as “he said/she said” than risk upsetting the apple cart. Sad but true.

-Bike cops: It might be worth the victims time to track down a bike cop. They might lend a more sympathetic ear. I know that here in Chicago they’re much easier to deal with than the cruisers or station cops.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666904 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666904 <i>If, as coaxial says, "everyone has a car" in America, I'd sure like to know where mine is hiding</i> Check the garage at stately Wayne Manor. If, as coaxial says, “everyone has a car” in America, I’d sure like to know where mine is hiding

Check the garage at stately Wayne Manor.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666395 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666395 Grrrrrrrrr. I can't really talk about this. Can only emote right now... Grrrrrrrrr. I can’t really talk about this. Can only emote right now…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666653 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666653 It may not be the police's fault. Perhaps the prosecutors are the ones ignoring the case. I don't know if its at the state, county, or city level in CA but I would contact the appropriate prosecutor's office. I would also contact elected officials. Sooner or later you will run into someone with power who is interested in your problem. It may not be the police’s fault. Perhaps the prosecutors are the ones ignoring the case. I don’t know if its at the state, county, or city level in CA but I would contact the appropriate prosecutor’s office. I would also contact elected officials. Sooner or later you will run into someone with power who is interested in your problem.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-667423 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-667423 Nothing against bike riders - but I was involved with a hit-and-run (car vs. car) and the police did nothing. The guy blew through a stop sign and t-boned us, witness etc...and his license plate fell off!!! SF police contacted the owner of the vehicle (who said it had been stolen, just not reported...right) and proceeded to give him OUR information??? Heelllllooo, yeah I want the guy who tboned me and left me for dead to have my phone number and home address. Any way = long story long....police told us they don't do hit and runs (unless someone dies???) Nothing against bike riders – but I was involved with a hit-and-run (car vs. car) and the police did nothing. The guy blew through a stop sign and t-boned us, witness etc…and his license plate fell off!!!

SF police contacted the owner of the vehicle (who said it had been stolen, just not reported…right) and proceeded to give him OUR information??? Heelllllooo, yeah I want the guy who tboned me and left me for dead to have my phone number and home address.

Any way = long story long….police told us they don’t do hit and runs (unless someone dies???)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666660 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666660 What if it were a couple of kids who got hit an injured? Would it be ignored? Would people be bringing in this car vs. bike/hipster insanity? A car hit people on bikes and took off. A crime was committed. Just because you don't like the cyclists in your area it does not mean that our laws become null and void. What if it were a couple of kids who got hit an injured? Would it be ignored? Would people be bringing in this car vs. bike/hipster insanity?
A car hit people on bikes and took off. A crime was committed. Just because you don’t like the cyclists in your area it does not mean that our laws become null and void.

]]> By: xaxa http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666662 xaxa Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666662 Wow... I've just looked on StreetView (after not believing you could have a 7-lane street in the middle of a city). Looks like there's plenty of room for bike lanes, a tram line and a wider sidewalk, then it might actually be a nice place to be. Wow… I’ve just looked on StreetView (after not believing you could have a 7-lane street in the middle of a city).

Looks like there’s plenty of room for bike lanes, a tram line and a wider sidewalk, then it might actually be a nice place to be.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666667 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666667 Don't blame the police, they did their job. Prosecution is the DA's responsibility. Also prosecuting this case may not make sense depending on the facts. It may be unlikely that the state will meet its burden of proof and the state can't try every case, especially with the limited resources they have. The DA has a lot on her plate right now and might be waiting for a really good car-hitting-biker case (one she thinks she can win) before trying the issue. Sue the driver! The burden of proof you have to meet is lower and the victim will actually get something out of it. Don’t blame the police, they did their job. Prosecution is the DA’s responsibility. Also prosecuting this case may not make sense depending on the facts. It may be unlikely that the state will meet its burden of proof and the state can’t try every case, especially with the limited resources they have. The DA has a lot on her plate right now and might be waiting for a really good car-hitting-biker case (one she thinks she can win) before trying the issue.

Sue the driver! The burden of proof you have to meet is lower and the victim will actually get something out of it.

]]> By: Pasketti http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666415 Pasketti Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666415 This is news? Cars have always been able to get away with hitting cyclists with no consequences. Picture: http://media.mysanantonio.com/images/BIKE+MEMORIAL++100609+001.jpg The girl is Kylie Bruehler, age 7. It was taken at a memorial service for her parents who were killed while riding their tandem bike on a highway shoulder. A truck driver wasn't paying attention, veered off the road, and killed them. And now she's an orphan. No charges were filed. It was "just an accident". More info: http://current.com/items/91188164_bicyclists-on-the-road-treated-no-better-than-deer.htm And more: http://bicycling.com/blogs/roadrights/2009/11/18/traffic-injustice/ This is news? Cars have always been able to get away with hitting cyclists with no consequences.

Picture: http://media.mysanantonio.com/images/BIKE+MEMORIAL++100609+001.jpg

The girl is Kylie Bruehler, age 7. It was taken at a memorial service for her parents who were killed while riding their tandem bike on a highway shoulder. A truck driver wasn’t paying attention, veered off the road, and killed them. And now she’s an orphan. No charges were filed. It was “just an accident”.

More info: http://current.com/items/91188164_bicyclists-on-the-road-treated-no-better-than-deer.htm

And more: http://bicycling.com/blogs/roadrights/2009/11/18/traffic-injustice/

]]> By: jimh http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666674 jimh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666674 When I was hit by a car while riding my bicycle, (car turned left at a light, didn't see me in the oncoming lane, lotsa witnesses) the responding SFPD officers repeatedly attempted to get me to admit that I had been riding on the sidewalk, not in the street. They actively tried to create a report where I was at fault when the driver of the car, by all accounts including her own, was in the wrong. This aggressive questioning occurred while I was in the ambulance, on a back board, in shock, with a broken shoulder blade and severe muscle trauma. When I was hit by a car while riding my bicycle, (car turned left at a light, didn’t see me in the oncoming lane, lotsa witnesses) the responding SFPD officers repeatedly attempted to get me to admit that I had been riding on the sidewalk, not in the street. They actively tried to create a report where I was at fault when the driver of the car, by all accounts including her own, was in the wrong.

This aggressive questioning occurred while I was in the ambulance, on a back board, in shock, with a broken shoulder blade and severe muscle trauma.

]]> By: pyster http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666419 pyster Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666419 Thinking you should not only file a civil suit against the driver, but the police department for failing to to prosecute. Just like a pig... There to tazer you for spitting on the sidewalk, never there to protect. Thinking you should not only file a civil suit against the driver, but the police department for failing to to prosecute.

Just like a pig… There to tazer you for spitting on the sidewalk, never there to protect.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-667955 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-667955 @#42 I was also hit in SF a few months ago, and also had SFPD try to get me to admit fault. They asked very misleading questions as I laid in the ER suffering from a concussion, half-conscious. To all bikers out there - the bottom line is you simply cannot trust SFPD to look out for you. @#42
I was also hit in SF a few months ago, and also had SFPD try to get me to admit fault. They asked very misleading questions as I laid in the ER suffering from a concussion, half-conscious.

To all bikers out there – the bottom line is you simply cannot trust SFPD to look out for you.

]]> By: Tobi319 http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666933 Tobi319 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666933 I have contacted SFPD and have gotten all my friends who are cyclists to contact them as well. Not sure if it will help, but it will make our voices heard at the very least! I have contacted SFPD and have gotten all my friends who are cyclists to contact them as well. Not sure if it will help, but it will make our voices heard at the very least!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666682 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666682 Take this info to the ADA. The police cant pick and choose which laws to enforce randomly. More leg work, but you should get results. No harm dropping this to all levels of media as well. Take this info to the ADA. The police cant pick and choose which laws to enforce randomly. More leg work, but you should get results. No harm dropping this to all levels of media as well.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666430 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666430 I think the mistake you're making is in thinking that the cops are there to protect you. They're not. Their job is to protect society, not individuals. Cf. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html I think the mistake you’re making is in thinking that the cops are there to protect you. They’re not. Their job is to protect society, not individuals. Cf. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666951 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666951 Normally I wouldn't allow such a commercial comment, but it's so topical, I'm making an exception. Just don't complain if you get 10,000 e-mails from our readers. Normally I wouldn’t allow such a commercial comment, but it’s so topical, I’m making an exception. Just don’t complain if you get 10,000 e-mails from our readers.

]]> By: elNico http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666442 elNico Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666442 Too funny, this whole cyclist/hipster vs car driver dynamic is the same here in Australia. When I go home to Germany, cycling doesn't seem to be all that hip or sporty for that matter, it's just something that people of all walks of life do. It's the same in the Netherlands and Scandinavian countries. Very few "single gear plus retro helmet" sightings as well, it's just not that much of a statement, really. Cue to Oz or SF/US and there seems to be an epic war going on... Too funny, this whole cyclist/hipster vs car driver dynamic is the same here in Australia. When I go home to Germany, cycling doesn’t seem to be all that hip or sporty for that matter, it’s just something that people of all walks of life do. It’s the same in the Netherlands and Scandinavian countries.

Very few “single gear plus retro helmet” sightings as well, it’s just not that much of a statement, really.

Cue to Oz or SF/US and there seems to be an epic war going on…

]]> By: moebrook http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666443 moebrook Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666443 Monday afternoon, while walking home from jury duty, a driver on a handheld phone made an illegal turn on red two feet in front of me while I was in the crosswalk, that I think is three violations in this city. I of course yelled at the guy who stopped and asked what my problem was, I informed him of his crappy driving he then flashed his badge at me. It is hard to have faith in the system sometimes. Monday afternoon, while walking home from jury duty, a driver on a handheld phone made an illegal turn on red two feet in front of me while I was in the crosswalk, that I think is three violations in this city. I of course yelled at the guy who stopped and asked what my problem was, I informed him of his crappy driving he then flashed his badge at me. It is hard to have faith in the system sometimes.

]]> By: cinemajay http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666699 cinemajay Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666699 I would fight it too. Police are negligent if they have information to prosecute a crime like reckless driving and striking someone with a vehicle and do nothing about it. Most cases don't gave this much to go on! I would fight it too. Police are negligent if they have information to prosecute a crime like reckless driving and striking someone with a vehicle and do nothing about it. Most cases don’t gave this much to go on!

]]> By: Comedian http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666447 Comedian Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666447 From the department of cute timing coincidences, check out today's headline from SF Weekly: "The Worst-Run Big City in the U.S." http://www.sfweekly.com/2009-12-16/news/the-worst-run-big-city-in-the-u-s/ <blockquote>It's time to face facts: San Francisco is spectacularly mismanaged and arguably the worst-run big city in America. This year's city budget is an astonishing $6.6 billion — more than twice the budget for the entire state of Idaho — for roughly 800,000 residents. Yet despite that stratospheric amount, San Francisco can't point to progress on many of the social issues it spends liberally to tackle — and no one is made to answer when the city comes up short.</blockquote> From the department of cute timing coincidences, check out today’s headline from SF Weekly:

“The Worst-Run Big City in the U.S.”

http://www.sfweekly.com/2009-12-16/news/the-worst-run-big-city-in-the-u-s/

It’s time to face facts: San Francisco is spectacularly mismanaged and arguably the worst-run big city in America. This year’s city budget is an astonishing $6.6 billion — more than twice the budget for the entire state of Idaho — for roughly 800,000 residents. Yet despite that stratospheric amount, San Francisco can’t point to progress on many of the social issues it spends liberally to tackle — and no one is made to answer when the city comes up short.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-671056 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-671056 Thanks for letting me contribute. I am not trying to troll for cases. I just encounter this exact factual scenario so many times per year. For some reason, the SFPD is always trying to get cyclists to admit fault. I fight for injured cyclists every day. I just had to settle a case because my client, who had a concussion and was in an ambulance, supposedly told the reporting officer that he had run the stop sign and hit the side of a bus. When we reconstructed the accident, we saw this was not possible. Still, by making the injured cyclist give a statement at the scene, the officer ruined my client's chance to make the bus driver fully accountable. My advice is to wait to give the police a statement, unless you are absolutely clear headed, and never ever ever let the officer manipulate you into admitting fault. Thanks for letting me contribute. I am not trying to troll for cases. I just encounter this exact factual scenario so many times per year. For some reason, the SFPD is always trying to get cyclists to admit fault. I fight for injured cyclists every day. I just had to settle a case because my client, who had a concussion and was in an ambulance, supposedly told the reporting officer that he had run the stop sign and hit the side of a bus. When we reconstructed the accident, we saw this was not possible. Still, by making the injured cyclist give a statement at the scene, the officer ruined my client’s chance to make the bus driver fully accountable. My advice is to wait to give the police a statement, unless you are absolutely clear headed, and never ever ever let the officer manipulate you into admitting fault.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666462 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666462 setup a donation on paypal and post the information. Also, btw, here is the information for the hit and run dept. in san francisco: http://sf-police.org/index.aspx?page=54 Hit and Run Section 850 Bryant St, Rm. 415 San Francisco, CA 94013 Office hours 0600-1800 Monday through Friday <!-- Hit and Run (415) 553-1641 Environmental Crime (415) 553-1194 Arson (415) 920-2944 --> Everyone should feel free to call and have a few words with them. setup a donation on paypal and post the information.
Also, btw, here is the information for the hit and run dept. in san francisco: http://sf-police.org/index.aspx?page=54

Hit and Run Section
850 Bryant St, Rm. 415
San Francisco, CA 94013
Office hours 0600-1800
Monday through Friday

Everyone should feel free to call and have a few words with them.

]]> By: nemofazer http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666718 nemofazer Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666718 I was t-boned on my bicycle on my way home from work in Vancouver four years ago. I had my left leg broken in three places and lost a lot of cartilage. Now I walk with a limp and have some pain everyday which is set to get worse over time. I was hit by a car that had stopped at its stop sign but didn't see me going through the junction and put their foot down as I passed through (my right of way, not a four-way). The cops only wanted to confirm the driver had stopped before proceeding. Once they did they seemed ok with it and never prosecuted. I was so hopped up on morphine in the days that followed (I needed surgery) that I let it pass. I really regret that now. I was t-boned on my bicycle on my way home from work in Vancouver four years ago. I had my left leg broken in three places and lost a lot of cartilage. Now I walk with a limp and have some pain everyday which is set to get worse over time.

I was hit by a car that had stopped at its stop sign but didn’t see me going through the junction and put their foot down as I passed through (my right of way, not a four-way).

The cops only wanted to confirm the driver had stopped before proceeding. Once they did they seemed ok with it and never prosecuted. I was so hopped up on morphine in the days that followed (I needed surgery) that I let it pass. I really regret that now.

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666979 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666979 You can't just start letting hit and run drivers off the hook. There's a reason that it's a criminal rather than civil offense. People die. You can’t just start letting hit and run drivers off the hook. There’s a reason that it’s a criminal rather than civil offense. People die.

]]> By: agreenster http://boingboing.net/2009/12/15/sfpd-wont-investigat.html#comment-666741 agreenster Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-666741 Go vigilante. You have his license plate, you have his address, you know what he looks like. If the law wont protect you, YOU have to protect you. Aaah, Im just kidding. Sorta. Go vigilante. You have his license plate, you have his address, you know what he looks like. If the law wont protect you, YOU have to protect you.

Aaah, Im just kidding.

Sorta.

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