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23 Responses to “Elizabeth Pschorr: A Privileged Marriage (Boing Boing Video)”

  1. strangefriend says:

    I think the reverse of this was the German women who had married Jews & the Rosenstrasse demonstrations
    http://www.aforcemorepowerful.org/book/excerpts/denmark.php
    The Nazis had to release their husbands.

  2. strangefriend says:

    Happy Hanukkah, Elizabeth Pschorr.
    Merry Christmas, Boing Boing.
    Have a cool Kwanzaa & a swinging Saturnalia.
    Feliz Navidad & un Prospero Ano Nuevo.
    Happy New Year.

  3. mgfarrelly says:

    Thank you Mrs. Pschorr, Xeni and everyone at BBTV for this wonderful story. It put me in mind of my parents own love story. I’m going to pull out some old albums and remember their story this evening with friends.

    Thank you again and Merry Christmas.

  4. lewis stoole says:

    that was most appreciated. thanks.

  5. Anonymous says:

    My Tante Anna, who died in the eighties close to her hundredth birthday, also survived the war as the jewish spouse of ein Ärischer Mann.

  6. Anonymous says:

    (sniff)

  7. Anonymous says:

    Thank you for this touching story.

  8. Jan says:

    Many years ago, when the SF Press Club was still alive, Elizabeth Pschorr came to speak to us about her experience and discuss her book, A Privlieged Marriage. It was an interesting afternoon – we also met her daughter – a wonderful artist. I still have some of her cards.
    Since that time I have had occasion to read more holcaust novels/non-fiction and also visited Germany. The era never ceases to both terrify and facsinate me. I still don’t know what I personally would have been able to sacrifice for my principles…I hope I never am tested. Good to know that E. Pschorr is doing well.

  9. glory bee says:

    Funny, but I just watched a wonderfully complex and emotional film with Kate Winslett and Ralph Fiennes ( and I can’t remember its name !!!) but it details the era after the dust eas settling and Germany was trying to come to terms with what, as a people, they had done. It is a joy to watch and for the first time I understood the confusion in the minds of young Germans whose parents and grandparents knew of Auschwitz etc. but stood by and did mothing. German guilt will never go away I fear./ I always ask myself if any other nation but Germany could and would do what was done, against any moral stance whatever. This lady was indeed privileged!

    • Mitchell says:

      It was “The Reader” and I found it, in the eagerness to forget what ordinary Germans had done during the war, understandably or not, obscene. It was just so rightwing: It’s not what the Germans as a nation did but, in this case, what a single person. Under the circumstances, it was of course understandable she’d join the Nazis, but to kill 300-odd innocents and with *no* acknowledgement of anything morally, you questionable? Please. And of course the story is loaded by having her cop the cherry of the character who’s the story’s POV. Please. An ugly, obnoxious story. But right for our era where taking responsibility for anything is, you know, passe. And make that a hateful story.

  10. Chuckers says:

    When the Nazis came to power they terrorized the German people. Any political dissent meant a trip to a concentration camp (not a death camp but still prison with no trial). The Brown Shirts and later the Black Shirts (para-military Nazi Party thugs) were allowed to march in the streets. The German people were terrorized into submission by their very government which gradually began to operate outside the countries’ own laws. I doubt many Americans (or Westerners) would have the courage to confront their government if the same thing were to happen today.

  11. gwynsen says:

    Is Ms Pschorr a relative to the Munich based Brewery Hacker-Pschorr?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker-Pschorr_Brewery

    • Anonymous says:

      gwynsen – On the eve of Hitler’s Third Reich, a girl from a German-Jewish family of wealth and privilege is married to the scion of a prominent “Aryan” brewing family…

  12. Anonymous says:

    Really remarkable story with a dramatic backround .The heart wants what it wants. Ms. Pschorr’s face is a beautiful map of her life.

  13. Irene Belknap says:

    I am Elizabeth’s daughter, Irene. There are many unanswered questions as regards her story but I can say that my father’s family was one of the 7 Munich brewery families and eventually the breweries merged to become Hacker-Pschorr. My father said he didn’t drink beer as he knew how it was made.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Interesting, but the video leaves out things that seem really important to understanding the story. How did she and her husband survive in 1943-1945? When did they immigrate to America? It sounds like she made it through the war as the wife of a protected German industrialist (small scale), and perhaps he had his affair in that period, (did they divorce during the war or after) and perhaps she met the other man in 1945 or 1946 and somehow they both moved to America in the post 1945 period? And did his second wife come to America? And why was he working for her parents (did I get that?)? It’s really hard to discern who was doing what when… and any time we consider a personal history in this time frame it is really important to know this in order to make historical sense of the story. Just a few dates and mapping onto history would be helpful. Enjoyed the story!

  15. glory bee says:

    I wanted to say that that old saying ‘the heart wants what it wants’ to me is beautiful. And also, that yesterday I watched a film called ‘The Reader’ with Ralph Fiennes and Kate Winslet about the guilt that Germany even today carries because of the holocaust… but the main point the film makes is that it was quite ‘ordinary’ people who knew and watched it all happen. So I ask myself, would it happen anywhere else but Germany…was there something in the German love of order that contributed?

  16. Anonymous says:

    Hacker-Pschorr?

    Prost!

  17. Anonymous says:

    what a great story-thak you for sharing

  18. Anonymous says:

    please amend the article to say “aryan” with quotes, as without the quotes it falls deeper into problematic usage. really it an obsolete term that belongs to 19th-century physical anthropology, or, more weakly, to different moments in political history, but has no real basis for racial usage other than to refer to ancient Iran and should not be recognized as associated with a caucasian subset even if nazism employed it in such a manner.

    cheers,

    cazabache

  19. Anonymous says:

    @#5: it’s “arischer Mann”, not “ärischer Mann”. the latter is unknown in german language.
    @#8: yes, she is.

  20. Anonymous says:

    It’s good to know that love can triumph in the end.

  21. slideguy says:

    Thank you for that, Xeni.

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