Comments on: Creepy "naked scanners" violate child porn laws in UK http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Fri, 24 May 2013 03:21:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679424 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679424 Full-Body Scanners are so "old technology." See: http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2010/01/05/full-body-scanners-old-technology/ Full-Body Scanners are so “old technology.”

See:

http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2010/01/05/full-body-scanners-old-technology/

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679685 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679685 Not sure of the reasoning, but I read the other day that these machines are illegal here in NZ - for airports here to install them would require Parliament to change the law... Not sure of the reasoning, but I read the other day that these machines are illegal here in NZ – for airports here to install them would require Parliament to change the law…

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678684 Brainspore Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678684 It was only a matter of time before anti-terrorism hysteria had to face off against anti-child-porn hysteria. It was only a matter of time before anti-terrorism hysteria had to face off against anti-child-porn hysteria.

]]> By: cymk http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678685 cymk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678685 In other news, Al-Qaeda begins recruiting youthful looking midgets. In other news, Al-Qaeda begins recruiting youthful looking midgets.

]]> By: brerrabbit23 http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678688 brerrabbit23 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678688 Let's not single out the Brits in this stupidity.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raklPo9vnmg Let’s not single out the Brits in this stupidity….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raklPo9vnmg

]]> By: davide405 http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678696 davide405 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678696 No terroris organization "worthy" of the name would bat an eye at recruiting *actual* children for any purpose they consider eligible for self-martyrdom. No terroris organization “worthy” of the name would bat an eye at recruiting *actual* children for any purpose they consider eligible for self-martyrdom.

]]> By: strumpet windsock http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678702 strumpet windsock Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678702 Whether or not one agrees with the policy making this exception is just ridiculous. Do they plan on outlawing x-rays, MRIs, and other medical imaging of children too? Whether or not one agrees with the policy making this exception is just ridiculous. Do they plan on outlawing x-rays, MRIs, and other medical imaging of children too?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679471 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679471 I'm actually really surprised that so many readers are bashing England about this! The only successful terrorist attack on a plane that I know of didn't use bombs, and hence these scanners would have been totally useless for preventing that. Plus, these scanners can't find anything hidden inside the body anyway. I really don't think the supposed risk of terrorism warrants taking photos of the genitalia of everyone attempting to board a flight! Considering there's been less than one attack a year worldwide since sept 11, most of which weren't on planes, it seems pretty darn obvious that people simply don't want to kill each other that often, and the money would be better spent on *anything* else (say..health care? Education?) I’m actually really surprised that so many readers are bashing England about this! The only successful terrorist attack on a plane that I know of didn’t use bombs, and hence these scanners would have been totally useless for preventing that. Plus, these scanners can’t find anything hidden inside the body anyway. I really don’t think the supposed risk of terrorism warrants taking photos of the genitalia of everyone attempting to board a flight!

Considering there’s been less than one attack a year worldwide since sept 11, most of which weren’t on planes, it seems pretty darn obvious that people simply don’t want to kill each other that often, and the money would be better spent on *anything* else (say..health care? Education?)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679729 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679729 Radiation enough for abortions and increased cancer and genetic mutation rates are in those scanners. Why is the commenting on them so continually superficial? I plan to use teleconferencing a lot. Radiation enough for abortions and increased cancer and genetic mutation rates are in those scanners. Why is the commenting on them so continually superficial?

I plan to use teleconferencing a lot.

]]> By: Ellavemia http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678710 Ellavemia Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678710 Wow, the work-around is just too obvious. I sense an influx of drug mules with kids, kids packed with plastic explosive, etc. Now instead of just endangering their own grown selves, criminals will have the kids involved too. Brilliant. Wow, the work-around is just too obvious. I sense an influx of drug mules with kids, kids packed with plastic explosive, etc. Now instead of just endangering their own grown selves, criminals will have the kids involved too. Brilliant.

]]> By: Halloween Jack http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678717 Halloween Jack Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678717 <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bombers_in_the_Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict">Yeah, that'll work</a>. Well-played, England! Yeah, that’ll work. Well-played, England!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679485 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679485 *flies plane into these comments* *flies plane into these comments*

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679233 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679233 Will some photoshop guru please make up some sexy photos that look like cellphone captures of TSA scanner images? Then publish as "from TSA agent". Think of it as a social experiment. For extra points, have some of those photos be post-pubescent tweens. Will some photoshop guru please make up some
sexy photos that look like cellphone captures
of TSA scanner images? Then publish as
“from TSA agent”.

Think of it as a social experiment.

For extra points, have some of those photos be
post-pubescent tweens.

]]> By: arkizzle / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678723 arkizzle / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678723 This is clearly the gaping hole in this approach to security. As long as social-sexual taboos exist (pat-downs avoiding genital areas, under 18s not being scanned, etc) it will be nothing more than theatre. Axe the taboos, or axe the security? They appear to be mutually exclusive and are making a mockery of each other. This is clearly the gaping hole in this approach to security. As long as social-sexual taboos exist (pat-downs avoiding genital areas, under 18s not being scanned, etc) it will be nothing more than theatre.

Axe the taboos, or axe the security? They appear to be mutually exclusive and are making a mockery of each other.

]]> By: cymk http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679749 cymk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679749 Fair enough. From my understanding the main reasons for terrorism were ideological and religious; that America's foreign policy is what got us in trouble with middle eastern terrorists (ie: meddling in their country/region or affairs of said country/region) and serving as the world's police force because the UN has no back bone. I can see it would be easy to get teens and young adults to believe that we (americans) are wrong and worth killing for the previous mentioned reasons, but kids roughly 10 and younger i dont see as buying the ideology (at least not at that age). Fair enough. From my understanding the main reasons for terrorism were ideological and religious; that America’s foreign policy is what got us in trouble with middle eastern terrorists (ie: meddling in their country/region or affairs of said country/region) and serving as the world’s police force because the UN has no back bone. I can see it would be easy to get teens and young adults to believe that we (americans) are wrong and worth killing for the previous mentioned reasons, but kids roughly 10 and younger i dont see as buying the ideology (at least not at that age).

]]> By: demidan http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678726 demidan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678726 So the scanners produce porn? Can you add religious reasons for avoiding the scanners? So the scanners produce porn? Can you add religious reasons for avoiding the scanners?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678731 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678731 Finally, the UK has a solution for the growing American child abuse problem - make all the convicted pedophiles go to work for the TSA. Soon we will see airport screening machines manned by Catholic priests and local politicians, with the occasional female high school teacher thrown in for good measure. Nice to know that the TSA is watching out for your children... Finally, the UK has a solution for the growing American child abuse problem – make all the convicted pedophiles go to work for the TSA.

Soon we will see airport screening machines manned by Catholic priests and local politicians, with the occasional female high school teacher thrown in for good measure.

Nice to know that the TSA is watching out for your children…

]]> By: cymk http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678732 cymk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678732 While I'm not sure how its worked in the past, but I find it hard to believe that the usual "kill yourself, get 72 virgins" works well on kids. Or is it a simple as putting a bomb on the kid and telling them to go to a specific place? While I’m not sure how its worked in the past, but I find it hard to believe that the usual “kill yourself, get 72 virgins” works well on kids. Or is it a simple as putting a bomb on the kid and telling them to go to a specific place?

]]> By: Xopher http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678733 Xopher Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678733 Stupid beyond belief. Like <a href="http://chattahbox.com/images/2009/12/bombing-suspect-abdulmutallab.jpg">Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab</a> couldn't pass for 17. How stupid ARE the British authorities, anyway? Honestly, Britain, get your act together. Decide which paranoid fear concerns you more; you can't have it both ways. What are you trying to do, become the US? Stupid beyond belief. Like Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab couldn’t pass for 17. How stupid ARE the British authorities, anyway?

Honestly, Britain, get your act together. Decide which paranoid fear concerns you more; you can’t have it both ways. What are you trying to do, become the US?

]]> By: efergus3 http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678737 efergus3 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678737 And what about the thousands of shoe fetish porn lovers who joined the TSA to sniff shoes? And what about the thousands of shoe fetish porn lovers who joined the TSA to sniff shoes?

]]> By: strangefriend http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678739 strangefriend Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678739 The same reasoning (that child nudity would violate some law)is why Hippie Hollow near Austin Texas, a county park where nude swimming occurs, doesn't admit anyone under 18. No, seriously. http://www.hippiehollow.com/pages/2257.htm The same reasoning (that child nudity would violate some law)is why Hippie Hollow near Austin Texas, a county park where nude swimming occurs, doesn’t admit anyone under 18. No, seriously.
http://www.hippiehollow.com/pages/2257.htm

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679775 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679775 "As long as social-sexual taboos exist (pat-downs avoiding genital areas" Yeah all these repressed westerners hung up on strangers not patting their genitals! “As long as social-sexual taboos exist (pat-downs avoiding genital areas”

Yeah all these repressed westerners hung up on strangers not patting their genitals!

]]> By: dm10003 http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679777 dm10003 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679777 the problem imams are often british. re: child peeping, let me operate the machine, i can't think of anything more tiresome then naked children, so i'm not likely to care about babyjunk. the problem imams are often british.

re: child peeping, let me operate the machine, i can’t think of anything more tiresome then naked children, so i’m not likely to care about babyjunk.

]]> By: Avram / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678754 Avram / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678754 Cymk, "kid" in this context means anyone under 18. Do you think 14-17 year old boys aren't horny? Also, I suspect that we westerners exaggerate the importance of the "72 virgins" story. Suicide terrorists are actually motivated by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dying_to_Win">a combination of political and religious/cultural concerns</a>. Cymk, “kid” in this context means anyone under 18. Do you think 14-17 year old boys aren’t horny?

Also, I suspect that we westerners exaggerate the importance of the “72 virgins” story. Suicide terrorists are actually motivated by a combination of political and religious/cultural concerns.

]]> By: Daemon http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679312 Daemon Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679312 I'm not an expert, but I'd be rather surprised if they didn't turn out to violate Canadian child porn and privacy laws. I’m not an expert, but I’d be rather surprised if they didn’t turn out to violate Canadian child porn and privacy laws.

]]> By: Revan343 http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679828 Revan343 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679828 emo hex++ emo hex++

]]> By: demidan http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678805 demidan Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678805 72 virgins?, just tell the kid,"wear this,press that and when you get to Amerika you get a PS3". It's not like honesty is much of a problem here. 72 virgins?, just tell the kid,”wear this,press that and when you get to Amerika you get a PS3″. It’s not like honesty is much of a problem here.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-679840 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-679840 tsa: we fuzz out the vital bits terrorists: hide explosives in the vital bits tsa: due to security, we need to see your vital bits terrorists: hide the explosives in an orifice tsa: we *need* to see your orifices... the cat-and-mouse scenario gets unpleasant faster and faster. tsa: we fuzz out the vital bits
terrorists: hide explosives in the vital bits

tsa: due to security, we need to see your vital bits
terrorists: hide the explosives in an orifice

tsa: we *need* to see your orifices…

the cat-and-mouse scenario gets unpleasant faster and faster.

]]> By: matt_maslanka http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-683682 matt_maslanka Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-683682 Well put. Thank you. Dealing with the symptoms of a problem is exponentially more difficult than addressing the root causes. Put the stupendous piles of cash from the useless TSA into proven education and self-sufficiency programs. Simplistic to say, but I think going down that path will see far fewer people who feel like being terrorists. Well put. Thank you. Dealing with the symptoms of a problem is exponentially more difficult than addressing the root causes. Put the stupendous piles of cash from the useless TSA into proven education and self-sufficiency programs. Simplistic to say, but I think going down that path will see far fewer people who feel like being terrorists.

]]> By: dimockn http://boingboing.net/2010/01/05/creepy-naked-scanner.html#comment-678819 dimockn Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-678819 Pravda's Top Story... http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/05-01-2010/111547-obama_helpers-0 "... In its efforts to institute the ultimate totalitarian state, the US has taken yet another step. For some time now, the US government has been looking for a justification to subject airline passengers to even more humiliating security checks, forcing everyone to undergo full body scanning. The Detroit charade was designed specifically for this purpose..." Pravda’s Top Story…
http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/05-01-2010/111547-obama_helpers-0
“… In its efforts to institute the ultimate totalitarian state, the US has taken yet another step. For some time now, the US government has been looking for a justification to subject airline passengers to even more humiliating security checks, forcing everyone to undergo full body scanning. The Detroit charade was designed specifically for this purpose…”

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