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		<title>By: omnivore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692737</link>
		<dc:creator>omnivore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the lesson that you shouldn&#039;t impoverish your neighbours, impose economy destroying embargos, force them into asymmetric trade agreements, perpetuate anti-competitive agricultural policies, support slavery in their borders whether in cane field or sweatshop, lure them into destructive debt-cycles, impose Structural Readjustments that serve your wealthiest and end up destroying your own employment, depose their leaders, support their violent and anti-democratic dictators, arm their tyrants&#039; armies and train their torture squads?

No? Didn&#039;t think so. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the lesson that you shouldn&#8217;t impoverish your neighbours, impose economy destroying embargos, force them into asymmetric trade agreements, perpetuate anti-competitive agricultural policies, support slavery in their borders whether in cane field or sweatshop, lure them into destructive debt-cycles, impose Structural Readjustments that serve your wealthiest and end up destroying your own employment, depose their leaders, support their violent and anti-democratic dictators, arm their tyrants&#8217; armies and train their torture squads?</p>
<p>No? Didn&#8217;t think so. </p>
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		<title>By: Daemon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692747</link>
		<dc:creator>Daemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What really gets me is the number of people who live in places that are prone to natural disasters, and choose to keep living there. There are regions that flood almost every bloody year (eg. the red river) and the people keep coming right back, and getting tons of government money to rebuild each and every time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really gets me is the number of people who live in places that are prone to natural disasters, and choose to keep living there. There are regions that flood almost every bloody year (eg. the red river) and the people keep coming right back, and getting tons of government money to rebuild each and every time.</p>
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		<title>By: The Opoponax</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692752</link>
		<dc:creator>The Opoponax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really see how this is necessarily a good lesson to take from Haiti.  I mean, the issue isn&#039;t that Haitians are just a bunch of ill-prepared jerks who lacked the foresight to stock up on flashlight batteries and luna bars.  Haiti is such a disaster in the aftermath of the earthquake because it was a disaster BEFORE the earthquake. It&#039;s one of the poorest countries in the world - many Haitians barely have enough to get by every day, let alone the ability to stock up on non-perishables and emergency supplies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really see how this is necessarily a good lesson to take from Haiti.  I mean, the issue isn&#8217;t that Haitians are just a bunch of ill-prepared jerks who lacked the foresight to stock up on flashlight batteries and luna bars.  Haiti is such a disaster in the aftermath of the earthquake because it was a disaster BEFORE the earthquake. It&#8217;s one of the poorest countries in the world &#8211; many Haitians barely have enough to get by every day, let alone the ability to stock up on non-perishables and emergency supplies.</p>
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		<title>By: Xeni Jardin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692754</link>
		<dc:creator>Xeni Jardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@the opoponax, I don&#039;t think that was Glenn&#039;s intent here. But the fact that aid never gets there fast enough, wherever &quot;There&quot; is -- that&#039;s something to remember even when you live in a privileged, wealthy country like the US. Disasters happen here, too.

The (mostly) extremely poor citizens of Haiti have phenomenally fewer economic options. The idea of  disaster preparedness in such a place is incongruous when you&#039;re talking about a population that suffers from malnutrition and lack of many first-world basics. Nobody&#039;s chastising them for not stocking up on MREs and 9-volt batteries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@the opoponax, I don&#8217;t think that was Glenn&#8217;s intent here. But the fact that aid never gets there fast enough, wherever &#8220;There&#8221; is &#8212; that&#8217;s something to remember even when you live in a privileged, wealthy country like the US. Disasters happen here, too.</p>
<p>The (mostly) extremely poor citizens of Haiti have phenomenally fewer economic options. The idea of  disaster preparedness in such a place is incongruous when you&#8217;re talking about a population that suffers from malnutrition and lack of many first-world basics. Nobody&#8217;s chastising them for not stocking up on MREs and 9-volt batteries.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692771</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What really gets me is the number of people who live in places that are prone to natural disasters, and choose to keep living there.&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;d be fascinated to see a map of those fabled regions that don&#039;t have earthquakes or hurricanes or tornadoes or tsunamis or grass fires or blizzards or floods or mudslides or plagues of locusts. Even if there are such places, I&#039;m pretty sure that they don&#039;t have any available water. 

Where exactly do you expect people to live? Narnia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What really gets me is the number of people who live in places that are prone to natural disasters, and choose to keep living there.</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;d be fascinated to see a map of those fabled regions that don&#8217;t have earthquakes or hurricanes or tornadoes or tsunamis or grass fires or blizzards or floods or mudslides or plagues of locusts. Even if there are such places, I&#8217;m pretty sure that they don&#8217;t have any available water. </p>
<p>Where exactly do you expect people to live? Narnia?</p>
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		<title>By: nomad13</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692774</link>
		<dc:creator>nomad13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with everything that Ted8305 said and would only add this: there are some pretty gruesome photos coming out of Haiti showing what happens to looters. Something involving crowds armed with metal pipes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with everything that Ted8305 said and would only add this: there are some pretty gruesome photos coming out of Haiti showing what happens to looters. Something involving crowds armed with metal pipes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peterbruells</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-694055</link>
		<dc:creator>peterbruells</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I a ship with relief supplies from Japan arrived first, then it was already near there and not  outfitted for the task.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I a ship with relief supplies from Japan arrived first, then it was already near there and not  outfitted for the task.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692788</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I learned that we are WAY faster to help strangers than we are to help our own. And more generously too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned that we are WAY faster to help strangers than we are to help our own. And more generously too.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-694333</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reminded of a Y2k planning meeting where I was asked if I was stocking up on supplies.  I replied that as a resident of South Florida, I&#039;ve had to stock up anyway for hurricane season. So nothing special besides the usual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reminded of a Y2k planning meeting where I was asked if I was stocking up on supplies.  I replied that as a resident of South Florida, I&#8217;ve had to stock up anyway for hurricane season. So nothing special besides the usual.</p>
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		<title>By: 'berto</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-695620</link>
		<dc:creator>'berto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;bcsizemo&quot; wrote: &quot;Well I&#039;d point out that in the US we only have ourselves to rely on... Really. Did any other country seriously step up and help us with Katrina, or any other major disaster? But I guess since we are the best nation in the world and all we have to help everyone else... (Seems like to me it&#039;s along the same lines as a billionaire helping you out if your house burned down.)&quot;

etc. etc. etc.

Well, &quot;bcsizemo&quot;, I&#039;d like to point out that a whole lot of CANADIANS turned out to give N&#039;awlins residents a hand -- indeed, a Vancouver firefighting/rescue team and some RCMP personnel from Ontario got there long BEFORE anybody from FEMA ever did -- that fact made CNN national news!

So, as far as &quot;what lessons should Americans take away from the 2010 Haiti disaster?&quot;, I&#039;d have to say: DON&#039;T let George W. Bush be in charge of your disaster response team, as Obama appointed him in Haiti, and as he ultimately was during Hurricane Katrina. The man obviously couldn&#039;t get a freaking cat out of a tree, let alone handle something of this magnitude.

Oh, and as far as &quot;...or any other major disaster?&quot; goes, you might not be aware, but we Canadians send firefighting teams to help out almost *every year* when you have your big annual conflagrations in California. Nice to see that our help is appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;bcsizemo&#8221; wrote: &#8220;Well I&#8217;d point out that in the US we only have ourselves to rely on&#8230; Really. Did any other country seriously step up and help us with Katrina, or any other major disaster? But I guess since we are the best nation in the world and all we have to help everyone else&#8230; (Seems like to me it&#8217;s along the same lines as a billionaire helping you out if your house burned down.)&#8221;</p>
<p>etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>Well, &#8220;bcsizemo&#8221;, I&#8217;d like to point out that a whole lot of CANADIANS turned out to give N&#8217;awlins residents a hand &#8212; indeed, a Vancouver firefighting/rescue team and some RCMP personnel from Ontario got there long BEFORE anybody from FEMA ever did &#8212; that fact made CNN national news!</p>
<p>So, as far as &#8220;what lessons should Americans take away from the 2010 Haiti disaster?&#8221;, I&#8217;d have to say: DON&#8217;T let George W. Bush be in charge of your disaster response team, as Obama appointed him in Haiti, and as he ultimately was during Hurricane Katrina. The man obviously couldn&#8217;t get a freaking cat out of a tree, let alone handle something of this magnitude.</p>
<p>Oh, and as far as &#8220;&#8230;or any other major disaster?&#8221; goes, you might not be aware, but we Canadians send firefighting teams to help out almost *every year* when you have your big annual conflagrations in California. Nice to see that our help is appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-693065</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fending for oneself is an option, but building community probably works better in the wake of disaster. This is a case study from the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina:
http://sfsocialists.livejournal.com/3687.html
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fending for oneself is an option, but building community probably works better in the wake of disaster. This is a case study from the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina:<br />
<a href="http://sfsocialists.livejournal.com/3687.html" rel="nofollow">http://sfsocialists.livejournal.com/3687.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kid Geezer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692816</link>
		<dc:creator>Kid Geezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I find it more than a little disturbing that you are citing the odious Glenn Reynolds. Omnivore nailed it pretty clearly. All points that I would expect Reynolds to deny in his patented smarmy,passive aggressive style.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I find it more than a little disturbing that you are citing the odious Glenn Reynolds. Omnivore nailed it pretty clearly. All points that I would expect Reynolds to deny in his patented smarmy,passive aggressive style.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Jones</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692828</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something I would love to see:

A cheap newsprint booklet, available in many languages, printed up by FEMA and local agencies and sent to EVERYBODY.

It would be 1/3 &quot;how to prepare,&quot; 1/3 &quot;what to do in case of disaster&quot; (first aid, how to shut down utilities, how to purify water), and 1/3 &quot;where to find shelters, hospitals, and clinics in your area.&quot;

AND an invitation to the local armory or whatever for training classes.

This could be a Stimulus thing. Employ writers, artists, local researchers (for part 3), down-on-their-luck printers, and so on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I would love to see:</p>
<p>A cheap newsprint booklet, available in many languages, printed up by FEMA and local agencies and sent to EVERYBODY.</p>
<p>It would be 1/3 &#8220;how to prepare,&#8221; 1/3 &#8220;what to do in case of disaster&#8221; (first aid, how to shut down utilities, how to purify water), and 1/3 &#8220;where to find shelters, hospitals, and clinics in your area.&#8221;</p>
<p>AND an invitation to the local armory or whatever for training classes.</p>
<p>This could be a Stimulus thing. Employ writers, artists, local researchers (for part 3), down-on-their-luck printers, and so on.</p>
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		<title>By: nanuq</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692587</link>
		<dc:creator>nanuq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s why aid organizations such as the Red Cross recommend that everyone have emergency supplies to cover &lt;i&gt;at least&lt;/i&gt; the first 72 hours following a disaster.  It typically takes that long at minimum before relief efforts can get underway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s why aid organizations such as the Red Cross recommend that everyone have emergency supplies to cover <i>at least</i> the first 72 hours following a disaster.  It typically takes that long at minimum before relief efforts can get underway.</p>
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		<title>By: Xopher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692592</link>
		<dc:creator>Xopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shouldn&#039;t we all be storing two years&#039; worth of food anyway?  You know, for the Last Days? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t we all be storing two years&#8217; worth of food anyway?  You know, for the Last Days? :-)</p>
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		<title>By: a random John</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692848</link>
		<dc:creator>a random John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wasn&#039;t it only 9 days ago that we were mocking Mormons for their food storage?

http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/11/passport-to-survival.html

BTW, Mormon self-sufficiency and food storage these days is always talked about in terms of natural disasters and unemployment, not the last days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wasn&#8217;t it only 9 days ago that we were mocking Mormons for their food storage?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/11/passport-to-survival.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2010/01/11/passport-to-survival.html</a></p>
<p>BTW, Mormon self-sufficiency and food storage these days is always talked about in terms of natural disasters and unemployment, not the last days.</p>
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		<title>By: Xeni Jardin</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692593</link>
		<dc:creator>Xeni Jardin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is an excellent point nanuq.</description>
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		<title>By: Hawley</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692595</link>
		<dc:creator>Hawley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or just buy a gun, that way you can procure all kinds of emergency supplies from the community at no expense.

gotta think with your wallet in this economy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or just buy a gun, that way you can procure all kinds of emergency supplies from the community at no expense.</p>
<p>gotta think with your wallet in this economy!</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-694643</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deidzoeb,

That link is to a nutjob conspiracy website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deidzoeb,</p>
<p>That link is to a nutjob conspiracy website.</p>
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		<title>By: WalterSear</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692599</link>
		<dc:creator>WalterSear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same one we should have taken from New Orleans, Indonesia, Turkey, or every other disaster: that help will be slow in coming, and even faster in leaving, and once the media has moved on to the next crisis of the century of the week, you&#039;re back on your own, and being forgotten again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same one we should have taken from New Orleans, Indonesia, Turkey, or every other disaster: that help will be slow in coming, and even faster in leaving, and once the media has moved on to the next crisis of the century of the week, you&#8217;re back on your own, and being forgotten again.</p>
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		<title>By: gmoke</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-693117</link>
		<dc:creator>gmoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one reason why I&#039;ve been saying Solar IS Civil Defense for the last five or six years or so.

http://solarray.blogspot.com/2008/05/solar-is-civil-defense-illustrated.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one reason why I&#8217;ve been saying Solar IS Civil Defense for the last five or six years or so.</p>
<p><a href="http://solarray.blogspot.com/2008/05/solar-is-civil-defense-illustrated.html" rel="nofollow">http://solarray.blogspot.com/2008/05/solar-is-civil-defense-illustrated.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Jones</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692606</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can&#039;t dig your way out of a collapsed burning building with three broken limbs you don&#039;t deserve to live.

* * * 

Um. Seriously. Duh?

Stewart Brand wrote a great article about preparedness and rescue training in 1990, in the &lt;I&gt;Whole Earth Review&lt;/I&gt;:

http://www.wholeearth.com/issue-electronic-edition.php?iss=2068</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t dig your way out of a collapsed burning building with three broken limbs you don&#8217;t deserve to live.</p>
<p>* * * </p>
<p>Um. Seriously. Duh?</p>
<p>Stewart Brand wrote a great article about preparedness and rescue training in 1990, in the <i>Whole Earth Review</i>:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wholeearth.com/issue-electronic-edition.php?iss=2068" rel="nofollow">http://www.wholeearth.com/issue-electronic-edition.php?iss=2068</a></p>
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		<title>By: endymion</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692609</link>
		<dc:creator>endymion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off-topic, but I really hate this use of &quot;well&quot;:

&quot;And nobody cares more about helping you and your family in time of disaster than, well, you.&quot;

I wish that cutesy faux-stumble would go *away*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off-topic, but I really hate this use of &#8220;well&#8221;:</p>
<p>&#8220;And nobody cares more about helping you and your family in time of disaster than, well, you.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wish that cutesy faux-stumble would go *away*.</p>
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		<title>By: Deidzoeb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-695428</link>
		<dc:creator>Deidzoeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, globalresearch.ca was not a site I had read before, just the first thing that gave details about when Chinese search and rescue had arrived. Let me try again from more credible sources:

&quot;The Chinese rescue team has searched some 30 buildings and retrieved 15 bodies of quake victims after they arrived at Port-Au-Prince two days after the quake.&quot;
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2010-01/22/c_13146025.htm
Official press agency of the People&#039;s Republic of China

CNN.com repeats similar claims from Xinhua, for what that&#039;s worth:
Jan 15. &quot;6:42 a.m. -- A 60-member rescue team with three sniffer dogs arrived from China on Thursday, the official news agency Xinhua reported. Taiwan also sent a team of 23 rescuers and two dogs late Wednesday, according to its Ministry of Foreign Affairs.&quot;
http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/15/haiti.updates.thursday/index.html?iref=allsearch

From Americas Program, Center for International Policy:
&quot;In countries all over the world, search and rescue teams were ready to leave for Haiti within 12 hours of the disaster. Only a few were able to arrive without fatal delays, mainly teams â€” like those from Venezuela, Iceland, and China â€” that managed to land while Haitian staff still retained control of their airport.&quot;
http://americas.irc-online.org/am/6665</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, globalresearch.ca was not a site I had read before, just the first thing that gave details about when Chinese search and rescue had arrived. Let me try again from more credible sources:</p>
<p>&#8220;The Chinese rescue team has searched some 30 buildings and retrieved 15 bodies of quake victims after they arrived at Port-Au-Prince two days after the quake.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2010-01/22/c_13146025.htm" rel="nofollow">http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2010-01/22/c_13146025.htm</a><br />
Official press agency of the People&#8217;s Republic of China</p>
<p>CNN.com repeats similar claims from Xinhua, for what that&#8217;s worth:<br />
Jan 15. &#8220;6:42 a.m. &#8212; A 60-member rescue team with three sniffer dogs arrived from China on Thursday, the official news agency Xinhua reported. Taiwan also sent a team of 23 rescuers and two dogs late Wednesday, according to its Ministry of Foreign Affairs.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/15/haiti.updates.thursday/index.html?iref=allsearch" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/15/haiti.updates.thursday/index.html?iref=allsearch</a></p>
<p>From Americas Program, Center for International Policy:<br />
&#8220;In countries all over the world, search and rescue teams were ready to leave for Haiti within 12 hours of the disaster. Only a few were able to arrive without fatal delays, mainly teams â€” like those from Venezuela, Iceland, and China â€” that managed to land while Haitian staff still retained control of their airport.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://americas.irc-online.org/am/6665" rel="nofollow">http://americas.irc-online.org/am/6665</a></p>
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		<title>By: mister-o</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692618</link>
		<dc:creator>mister-o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>get off of my lawn!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>get off of my lawn!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Hale</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692625</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Hale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After taking first aid classes, and caching first aid supplies,I think that one of the best things you can do to prepare for a disaster of this scale is to know your neighbors and what you can expect from them for support or if you should expect to go it on your own - as someone mentioned above, you will be without any outside help for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After taking first aid classes, and caching first aid supplies,I think that one of the best things you can do to prepare for a disaster of this scale is to know your neighbors and what you can expect from them for support or if you should expect to go it on your own &#8211; as someone mentioned above, you will be without any outside help for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Deidzoeb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-693651</link>
		<dc:creator>Deidzoeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hell yes, omnivore. Another lesson to take from this is that the governments and societies *as they are now organized* in Haiti, or in the US during Katrina, generally leave people to pull themselves up by their own compound-fractured bootstraps. It is not a foregone conclusion that our govt or society needs to stay this way.

I just heard Juan Gonzalez on Democracy Now talking about the huge stockpiles of fresh water stored relatively close to Haiti in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where 9000 Marines are stationed. And yet they said the first ship to arrive with relief supplies was from Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell yes, omnivore. Another lesson to take from this is that the governments and societies *as they are now organized* in Haiti, or in the US during Katrina, generally leave people to pull themselves up by their own compound-fractured bootstraps. It is not a foregone conclusion that our govt or society needs to stay this way.</p>
<p>I just heard Juan Gonzalez on Democracy Now talking about the huge stockpiles of fresh water stored relatively close to Haiti in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where 9000 Marines are stationed. And yet they said the first ship to arrive with relief supplies was from Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: blevSF</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692891</link>
		<dc:creator>blevSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to be prepared and understand that government services will not be available, but we also need to be trained to help our neighbors and our neighborhoods. Those on-scene in a disaster should have skills, knowledge and tools. San Francisco&#039;s NERT (Neighborhood Emergency Response Team)training http://www.sf-fire.org/index.aspx?page=859 has prepared over 17,000 people to be prepared, to respond to personal emergencies, and to function as members of neighborhood response teams. NERT developed out of specific actions urged by citizens after the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake. CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) training is available, often for free, in many communities in the US. Check out https://www.citizencorps.gov/cert/ to find out if you have training where you live and how to start one if your don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to be prepared and understand that government services will not be available, but we also need to be trained to help our neighbors and our neighborhoods. Those on-scene in a disaster should have skills, knowledge and tools. San Francisco&#8217;s NERT (Neighborhood Emergency Response Team)training <a href="http://www.sf-fire.org/index.aspx?page=859" rel="nofollow">http://www.sf-fire.org/index.aspx?page=859</a> has prepared over 17,000 people to be prepared, to respond to personal emergencies, and to function as members of neighborhood response teams. NERT developed out of specific actions urged by citizens after the 1989 Loma Prieta earthquake. CERT (Community Emergency Response Team) training is available, often for free, in many communities in the US. Check out <a href="https://www.citizencorps.gov/cert/" rel="nofollow">https://www.citizencorps.gov/cert/</a> to find out if you have training where you live and how to start one if your don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: querent</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692894</link>
		<dc:creator>querent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>seconded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seconded.</p>
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		<title>By: bjacques</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/20/what-lessons-should.html#comment-692897</link>
		<dc:creator>bjacques</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s kind of obvious advice, and good as far as it goes. (Do schools still do anything like the Your Chance To Live series I watched in 8th grade (1976)?) Likewise the wisdome of self-reliance, also up to a point. But coming from the Ole Perfesser, both are disingenuous.

In Reynolds&#039; world, we are all Lazarus Long and Friday Jones, organizing our own aid and recovery. This would compensate for a government more to Reynolds&#039; liking, one in which aid never comes, except maybe in the form of subidies to mercenaries protecting uptown houses from downtown looters. 

Maybe the better lesson to draw from this is that overcoming a disaster and organizing recovery requires a government too big to be &quot;drowned in a bathtub.&quot; The government of Haiti is what the (g)libertarian ideal can lead to, and many of Reynolds&#039; ideological soulmates helped it on its way there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s kind of obvious advice, and good as far as it goes. (Do schools still do anything like the Your Chance To Live series I watched in 8th grade (1976)?) Likewise the wisdome of self-reliance, also up to a point. But coming from the Ole Perfesser, both are disingenuous.</p>
<p>In Reynolds&#8217; world, we are all Lazarus Long and Friday Jones, organizing our own aid and recovery. This would compensate for a government more to Reynolds&#8217; liking, one in which aid never comes, except maybe in the form of subidies to mercenaries protecting uptown houses from downtown looters. </p>
<p>Maybe the better lesson to draw from this is that overcoming a disaster and organizing recovery requires a government too big to be &#8220;drowned in a bathtub.&#8221; The government of Haiti is what the (g)libertarian ideal can lead to, and many of Reynolds&#8217; ideological soulmates helped it on its way there.</p>
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