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	<title>Comments on: O&#039;Reilly drops ebook DRM, sees 104% increase in&#160;sales</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-697090</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PDF is a first class foundation level technology in MAC OS X.

Simply put, by the time you want to print or make a pdf the majority of the processing has already been done. And they get away with all that ordinarily resource hogging processing by spreading it out over the execution of the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PDF is a first class foundation level technology in MAC OS X.</p>
<p>Simply put, by the time you want to print or make a pdf the majority of the processing has already been done. And they get away with all that ordinarily resource hogging processing by spreading it out over the execution of the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695302</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the control group in this little equation? Do we have comparison to the increasing number of people with eBook readers? 18 months and 104% doesn&#039;t sound like anything but the fallout from ebook readers taking off. To say that removing DRM was a direct cause of this is unfounded.
Sales of all book types are up, I&#039;m sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the control group in this little equation? Do we have comparison to the increasing number of people with eBook readers? 18 months and 104% doesn&#8217;t sound like anything but the fallout from ebook readers taking off. To say that removing DRM was a direct cause of this is unfounded.<br />
Sales of all book types are up, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695558</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure where you got the bit about O&#039;Reilly dropping DRM 18 months ago. To my knowledge they&#039;ve never used DRM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure where you got the bit about O&#8217;Reilly dropping DRM 18 months ago. To my knowledge they&#8217;ve never used DRM.</p>
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		<title>By: holtt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695317</link>
		<dc:creator>holtt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three data points on a graph.  Tufte would roll over in his grave, if he were dead.</description>
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		<title>By: É¥Í»á´‰á´š</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-697624</link>
		<dc:creator>É¥Í»á´‰á´š</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The other side of the coin: removing DRM __must have caused__ the increase in sales of eBook readers ;-)</description>
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		<title>By: Sharkhunt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695321</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharkhunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gah! Did BoingBoing seriously just post this graph without the context of overall eBook sales for the same period? I&#039;m not sure if I should feel insulted or ashamed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gah! Did BoingBoing seriously just post this graph without the context of overall eBook sales for the same period? I&#8217;m not sure if I should feel insulted or ashamed.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Anderson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695325</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear people arguing that DRM for books is essential. Remind me, how well did that work out for the music business? 

The only thing stopping the books and movie businesses going the way of the music industry is the technology. When bandwidth is ubiquitous, movies will be shared as widely as MP3s. When decent readers come along, books will be shared just like MP3s. As music has shown, if you offer a legitimate, non-DRMed version of your product, people will buy it.

If those industries want to save themselves from completely missing out on the opportunity to open up a new market - digital - they need to look at what happened to music and point their ship o&#039; strategy in exactly the opposite direction. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear people arguing that DRM for books is essential. Remind me, how well did that work out for the music business? </p>
<p>The only thing stopping the books and movie businesses going the way of the music industry is the technology. When bandwidth is ubiquitous, movies will be shared as widely as MP3s. When decent readers come along, books will be shared just like MP3s. As music has shown, if you offer a legitimate, non-DRMed version of your product, people will buy it.</p>
<p>If those industries want to save themselves from completely missing out on the opportunity to open up a new market &#8211; digital &#8211; they need to look at what happened to music and point their ship o&#8217; strategy in exactly the opposite direction. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-698399</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points. Copying something you don&#039;t have a right to copy is indeed nothing more or less than copyright infringement. Personally, I tend to stop listening any time someone calls it &quot;piracy&quot;. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points. Copying something you don&#8217;t have a right to copy is indeed nothing more or less than copyright infringement. Personally, I tend to stop listening any time someone calls it &#8220;piracy&#8221;. </p>
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		<title>By: holtt</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695328</link>
		<dc:creator>holtt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think people are arguing DRM is essential Graham.  More like it&#039;s not such a big deal for some people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think people are arguing DRM is essential Graham.  More like it&#8217;s not such a big deal for some people.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-698145</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@anonymous #40

You said: The correct term is &quot;IP theft&quot;.

Wrong.  The correct term is &quot;copyright infringement&quot;.

The recently made-up term &quot;IP&quot; promotes sloppy thinking, as people apply it to patents, copyrights, trademarks, and other things, each of which have different properties.

And infringement is not theft, despite a depressingly successful effort by RIAA and MPAA to mislead the public and the politicians.</description>
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<p>You said: The correct term is &#8220;IP theft&#8221;.</p>
<p>Wrong.  The correct term is &#8220;copyright infringement&#8221;.</p>
<p>The recently made-up term &#8220;IP&#8221; promotes sloppy thinking, as people apply it to patents, copyrights, trademarks, and other things, each of which have different properties.</p>
<p>And infringement is not theft, despite a depressingly successful effort by RIAA and MPAA to mislead the public and the politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-843045</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If my business model depended on DRM, I would comment over and over under different identities in different wording, rehashing the same tired memes about how we can&#039;t be sure that O&#039;Reilly has benefited from their decision.

Oh, wait, that&#039;s already been done!

And, yes, I can testify that O&#039;Reilly got more business from me after that decision ... and because of it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If my business model depended on DRM, I would comment over and over under different identities in different wording, rehashing the same tired memes about how we can&#8217;t be sure that O&#8217;Reilly has benefited from their decision.</p>
<p>Oh, wait, that&#8217;s already been done!</p>
<p>And, yes, I can testify that O&#8217;Reilly got more business from me after that decision &#8230; and because of it!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-696136</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s only one DRM that really winds me up and that Adobe&#039;s Digital Editions.  The reason is that you cannot read them on Windows Mobile.  So many European book retailers insist on using it.  I&#039;m not sure if they don&#039;t care about Win Mobile users or if it is all a dark conspiracy to make you pay for those stupid kindle and Sony devices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s only one DRM that really winds me up and that Adobe&#8217;s Digital Editions.  The reason is that you cannot read them on Windows Mobile.  So many European book retailers insist on using it.  I&#8217;m not sure if they don&#8217;t care about Win Mobile users or if it is all a dark conspiracy to make you pay for those stupid kindle and Sony devices.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-696139</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not PDF, but Display Postscript.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-696412</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the incentive?

For those on the side of &quot;remove DRM&quot; there is no financial reward to say &quot;DRM is not helping, get rid of it&quot;.

For those on the &quot;DRM is good&quot; side, if they did do a study and it showed DRM was bad, they would lose out. The only thing they stand to do is gain, but that&#039;s predicate on DRM being good, and why test something out when you can just claim it&#039;s true and people will believe you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s the incentive?</p>
<p>For those on the side of &#8220;remove DRM&#8221; there is no financial reward to say &#8220;DRM is not helping, get rid of it&#8221;.</p>
<p>For those on the &#8220;DRM is good&#8221; side, if they did do a study and it showed DRM was bad, they would lose out. The only thing they stand to do is gain, but that&#8217;s predicate on DRM being good, and why test something out when you can just claim it&#8217;s true and people will believe you?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-696162</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baen Books started up the Webscriptions service several years ago.  They have never put DRM in their offerings.  And now other publishers are beginning to make use of the service.  And I have bought quite a few books through the service.  

It seems to keep growing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baen Books started up the Webscriptions service several years ago.  They have never put DRM in their offerings.  And now other publishers are beginning to make use of the service.  And I have bought quite a few books through the service.  </p>
<p>It seems to keep growing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-696421</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, granted that there is little to prove a causal relationship between removing the DRM and the increase in sales.  What is more interesting is that the removal of the DRM did not apparently lead to a decrease in the number of sales due to an increase in piracy. 

So if the removal of DRM did not have an effect in book sales, it also seems to be logically consistent that the previous inclusion of DRM did not increase book sales by preventing piracy. 

So,O&#039;Reilly saves themselves the cost of implementing and maintaining the DRM system, I don&#039;t have to worry about DRM in the books I buy, and hopefully the books become cheaper or the authors get paid more. Everybody but the DRM makers are happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, granted that there is little to prove a causal relationship between removing the DRM and the increase in sales.  What is more interesting is that the removal of the DRM did not apparently lead to a decrease in the number of sales due to an increase in piracy. </p>
<p>So if the removal of DRM did not have an effect in book sales, it also seems to be logically consistent that the previous inclusion of DRM did not increase book sales by preventing piracy. </p>
<p>So,O&#8217;Reilly saves themselves the cost of implementing and maintaining the DRM system, I don&#8217;t have to worry about DRM in the books I buy, and hopefully the books become cheaper or the authors get paid more. Everybody but the DRM makers are happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695660</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go O&#039;Really, keep up the good work.</description>
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		<title>By: Aranfell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-696940</link>
		<dc:creator>Aranfell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, being against DRM is NOT the same as being against copyright. When I buy a paper book, I don&#039;t have the right to copy it, but nobody has the right to in effect break into my house and take it back, as DRM allows, or control how I am allowed to read it.

Second, doesn&#039;t anyone think that ebooks could be more popular precisely because there is more non-DRM content available? Correlation isn&#039;t causation, but correlation is certainly a reason to consider causes. Look at emusic, for example -- there is a lot less sales resistance when one doesn&#039;t need to depend on a DRM server to keep one&#039;s music, or deal with some idiot&#039;s restrictions on how one can play it.

And then there&#039;s the notion that each &quot;pirated&quot; copy represents a lost full price sale. Nonsense. Most wouldn&#039;t have been purchased, and in fact in the music world copying has been shown to increase sales. While I think that everyone should pay for what they read or listen to, the situation is a lot more complicated than calling it &quot;piracy&quot; makes it appear. The correct term is &quot;IP theft&quot;. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, being against DRM is NOT the same as being against copyright. When I buy a paper book, I don&#8217;t have the right to copy it, but nobody has the right to in effect break into my house and take it back, as DRM allows, or control how I am allowed to read it.</p>
<p>Second, doesn&#8217;t anyone think that ebooks could be more popular precisely because there is more non-DRM content available? Correlation isn&#8217;t causation, but correlation is certainly a reason to consider causes. Look at emusic, for example &#8212; there is a lot less sales resistance when one doesn&#8217;t need to depend on a DRM server to keep one&#8217;s music, or deal with some idiot&#8217;s restrictions on how one can play it.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the notion that each &#8220;pirated&#8221; copy represents a lost full price sale. Nonsense. Most wouldn&#8217;t have been purchased, and in fact in the music world copying has been shown to increase sales. While I think that everyone should pay for what they read or listen to, the situation is a lot more complicated than calling it &#8220;piracy&#8221; makes it appear. The correct term is &#8220;IP theft&#8221;. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695149</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you know that this is due to the removal of DRM?
Wouldn&#039;t you expect exponential growth in e-books right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know that this is due to the removal of DRM?<br />
Wouldn&#8217;t you expect exponential growth in e-books right now?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offense, but this is not necessarily cause and effect.  Sales of e-book readers have also gone up in popularity, exposure and sales, which would tend to increase sales of e-books with or without the removal of DRM.

That they have removed DRM means that people that can&#039;t afford to buy it, can &#039;borrow&#039; the current edition.  In the future, if they are making money and enjoy the author&#039;s books, they will buy it in order to support the author.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offense, but this is not necessarily cause and effect.  Sales of e-book readers have also gone up in popularity, exposure and sales, which would tend to increase sales of e-books with or without the removal of DRM.</p>
<p>That they have removed DRM means that people that can&#8217;t afford to buy it, can &#8216;borrow&#8217; the current edition.  In the future, if they are making money and enjoy the author&#8217;s books, they will buy it in order to support the author.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695407</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you guys are missing the point. It&#039;s not that the loss of DRM caused an increase in sales, it&#039;s that sales increased DESPITE the lack of DRM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you guys are missing the point. It&#8217;s not that the loss of DRM caused an increase in sales, it&#8217;s that sales increased DESPITE the lack of DRM.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695152</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The increase in sales is just as easily attributable to an increase in the popularity of e-book readers. It&#039;s nice they dropped the DRM, but there&#039;s not enough there to claim that it had much to do with the increase in sales.
If you compare this graph with a graph of e-book sales overall (http://www.idpf.org/doc_library/industrystats.htm), there&#039;s not much difference between them. This post, while encouraging, is a little dishonest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The increase in sales is just as easily attributable to an increase in the popularity of e-book readers. It&#8217;s nice they dropped the DRM, but there&#8217;s not enough there to claim that it had much to do with the increase in sales.<br />
If you compare this graph with a graph of e-book sales overall (<a href="http://www.idpf.org/doc_library/industrystats.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.idpf.org/doc_library/industrystats.htm</a>), there&#8217;s not much difference between them. This post, while encouraging, is a little dishonest.</p>
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		<title>By: Nylund</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695162</link>
		<dc:creator>Nylund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a firm believer in anti-DRM, but I&#039;m also a firm believer in stats/econometrics and I must point out that correlation does not imply causation.  One cannot necessarily imply that the lack of DRM is the cause of the increase in sales.  bOINGbOING is nerdy enough to know that one cannot draw such an inference...I&#039;d hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a firm believer in anti-DRM, but I&#8217;m also a firm believer in stats/econometrics and I must point out that correlation does not imply causation.  One cannot necessarily imply that the lack of DRM is the cause of the increase in sales.  bOINGbOING is nerdy enough to know that one cannot draw such an inference&#8230;I&#8217;d hope.</p>
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		<title>By: anselmlingnau</title>
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		<dc:creator>anselmlingnau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the author of the O&#039;Reilly book, Â»LaTeX HacksÂ« (which as of now is available only in German but that is another story). This is available on paper and as an e-book. The paper edition sells really well, I&#039;m happy to say (to the point of it having been the best-selling title in all of O&#039;Reilly&#039;s Â»HacksÂ« series here in Germany for some time), but it would be easy for O&#039;Reilly to dramatically increase relative e-book sales by actually selling any e-book copies at *all*. According to the statements I get from O&#039;Reilly, they have managed to dispose of 1 copy or so of the e-book version last year, so if they sold a humongous number of copies, like 3, this year that would be a 300% increase compared to last year and certainly worth a press release.

It&#039;s good to see that there is such amazing growth but in absolute terms this increase may not actually represent a very large number of books sold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the author of the O&#8217;Reilly book, Â»LaTeX HacksÂ« (which as of now is available only in German but that is another story). This is available on paper and as an e-book. The paper edition sells really well, I&#8217;m happy to say (to the point of it having been the best-selling title in all of O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s Â»HacksÂ« series here in Germany for some time), but it would be easy for O&#8217;Reilly to dramatically increase relative e-book sales by actually selling any e-book copies at *all*. According to the statements I get from O&#8217;Reilly, they have managed to dispose of 1 copy or so of the e-book version last year, so if they sold a humongous number of copies, like 3, this year that would be a 300% increase compared to last year and certainly worth a press release.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to see that there is such amazing growth but in absolute terms this increase may not actually represent a very large number of books sold.</p>
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		<title>By: tkdead</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695168</link>
		<dc:creator>tkdead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmhmm. And in the las 18 months, how many ebook readers have hit the market? I realize that O&#039;Reilly stuff isn&#039;t the pleasure reading that people most people have in mind when they pick up a kindle -- but ebook sales would of gone up in the last year and a half regardless of DRM. 

People can&#039;t be trusted to manage their own data, and EULAs and DRM are in place to make sure our purchases are protected. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmhmm. And in the las 18 months, how many ebook readers have hit the market? I realize that O&#8217;Reilly stuff isn&#8217;t the pleasure reading that people most people have in mind when they pick up a kindle &#8212; but ebook sales would of gone up in the last year and a half regardless of DRM. </p>
<p>People can&#8217;t be trusted to manage their own data, and EULAs and DRM are in place to make sure our purchases are protected. </p>
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		<title>By: msilver</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695176</link>
		<dc:creator>msilver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s interesting you mention RPG books. I would LOVE to buy an electronic version of the 3 &quot;core&quot; books for D&amp;D. I don&#039;t want a PDF. I want a searchable, scrollable reference document that can live on my phone so I don&#039;t have to carry a bag of books, a clip board, dice, etc to play. I would pay the cover price of the Player&#039;s Handbook if it was in an iphone app that navigated in the same way as say... the settings app on the iphone. Basically a bunch of HTML files embedded in a webkit. It&#039;s not like I could copy those files out. 

And just a little more rambling on the formatting of RPG e-books. I don&#039;t want a PDF! I want to read it on my computer! If I print it out, I&#039;m going to be printing on my shitty home printer. I don&#039;t need a completely full color book. Give me a basic black and white PDF if you have a print version, but make another version that&#039;s in a more scalable format so I can read it on something digital like a laptop or my phone or whatever. &lt;/nerd rant&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s interesting you mention RPG books. I would LOVE to buy an electronic version of the 3 &#8220;core&#8221; books for D&#038;D. I don&#8217;t want a PDF. I want a searchable, scrollable reference document that can live on my phone so I don&#8217;t have to carry a bag of books, a clip board, dice, etc to play. I would pay the cover price of the Player&#8217;s Handbook if it was in an iphone app that navigated in the same way as say&#8230; the settings app on the iphone. Basically a bunch of HTML files embedded in a webkit. It&#8217;s not like I could copy those files out. </p>
<p>And just a little more rambling on the formatting of RPG e-books. I don&#8217;t want a PDF! I want to read it on my computer! If I print it out, I&#8217;m going to be printing on my shitty home printer. I don&#8217;t need a completely full color book. Give me a basic black and white PDF if you have a print version, but make another version that&#8217;s in a more scalable format so I can read it on something digital like a laptop or my phone or whatever. </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Scott</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695181</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stats for the full year aren&#039;t available yet, but overall US ebook revenues for Q1-Q3 2009 were &lt;i&gt;200%&lt;/i&gt; up on Q1-Q3 2008, so O&#039;Reilly are in fact lagging behind. The figures you quote could perfectly well be interpreted to suggest that dropping DRM has cost O&#039;Reilly 1/3 of their potential sales.

I think it&#039;s more likely that O&#039;Reilly&#039;s customers were well ahead of the curve on adopting ebooks, but my point is that this single statistic doesn&#039;t really show anything useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stats for the full year aren&#8217;t available yet, but overall US ebook revenues for Q1-Q3 2009 were <i>200%</i> up on Q1-Q3 2008, so O&#8217;Reilly are in fact lagging behind. The figures you quote could perfectly well be interpreted to suggest that dropping DRM has cost O&#8217;Reilly 1/3 of their potential sales.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s more likely that O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s customers were well ahead of the curve on adopting ebooks, but my point is that this single statistic doesn&#8217;t really show anything useful.</p>
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		<title>By: rrh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695438</link>
		<dc:creator>rrh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention an unlabeled y-axis, which with anselmlingnau&#039;s comment makes me wonder if they went from 25 books sold to 51.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention an unlabeled y-axis, which with anselmlingnau&#8217;s comment makes me wonder if they went from 25 books sold to 51.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-696220</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, in other words, I think we can safely say that the lack of DRM certainly doesn&#039;t seem to kill sales especially when you combine this with data from others who&#039;ve now worked with DRM-Freedom Files.

Can we dare say it doesn&#039;t seem to hurt sales to ditch DRM?  And.. there&#039;s less overhead when you ditch DRM so even more profit, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, in other words, I think we can safely say that the lack of DRM certainly doesn&#8217;t seem to kill sales especially when you combine this with data from others who&#8217;ve now worked with DRM-Freedom Files.</p>
<p>Can we dare say it doesn&#8217;t seem to hurt sales to ditch DRM?  And.. there&#8217;s less overhead when you ditch DRM so even more profit, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: Marchhare</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/01/22/oreilly-drops-ebook.html#comment-695453</link>
		<dc:creator>Marchhare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just no longer trust Cory&#039;s claims on these issues any more than I trust Fox News on its take on politics.  Not that I like DRM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just no longer trust Cory&#8217;s claims on these issues any more than I trust Fox News on its take on politics.  Not that I like DRM.</p>
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