Comments on: Augmented reality idea to make transparent walls http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:48:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702211 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702211 You'd have to put up cameras everywhere. Perfect technology for the UK then. You’d have to put up cameras everywhere. Perfect technology for the UK then.

]]> By: Xenu http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702212 Xenu Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702212 All fences, walls, and other impediments will soon be obsolete anyway. For more information: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9024682@N06/3398538826 All fences, walls, and other impediments will soon be obsolete anyway.

For more information: http://www.flickr.com/photos/9024682@N06/3398538826

]]> By: shorty433 http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-703749 shorty433 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-703749 Just like Counterstrike hax! :P Just like Counterstrike hax! :P

]]> By: Gutierrez http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702215 Gutierrez Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702215 Finally a use for all those pointlessly placed cameras that keep sprouting up! To think, ubiquitous observation could work for you! ... Right? Finally a use for all those pointlessly placed cameras that keep sprouting up! To think, ubiquitous observation could work for you!

… Right?

]]> By: se7a7n7 http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702219 se7a7n7 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702219 Knowing how dumb some drivers are, it would be a short time until someone attempts to drive straight through the wall. Knowing how dumb some drivers are, it would be a short time until someone attempts to drive straight through the wall.

]]> By: Church http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702220 Church Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702220 Lag is a killer. Lag is a killer.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702479 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702479 Driving around dividing my attention between what I can see through the windscreen and a display on a screen that shows a psychedelicised version of what I can see through the windscreen. Nice. Driving around dividing my attention between what I can see through the windscreen and a display on a screen that shows a psychedelicised version of what I can see through the windscreen. Nice.

]]> By: Cunning http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702226 Cunning Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702226 I think Wiley Coyote developed something similar. I'm not sure it's going to have the desired effect. I think Wiley Coyote developed something similar. I’m not sure it’s going to have the desired effect.

]]> By: Axx http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702231 Axx Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702231 Someone should invent a sort of "'round-the-corner-seeing-engine". You know, something that would augment man's ability to see only in straight line paths to the ability to see AROUND corners where his straight line vision would be otherwise obstructed by a wall or other opaque object! I don't know...some device for projecting the scene on the other side of said opaque object in the direction of the viewer. Such a "seeing-engine" could be placed at corners to facilitate motorist's negotiation of the corner. But, GODS! that we had such a contrivance! Someone should invent a sort of “’round-the-corner-seeing-engine”. You know, something that would augment man’s ability to see only in straight line paths to the ability to see AROUND corners where his straight line vision would be otherwise obstructed by a wall or other opaque object! I don’t know…some device for projecting the scene on the other side of said opaque object in the direction of the viewer. Such a “seeing-engine” could be placed at corners to facilitate motorist’s negotiation of the corner. But, GODS! that we had such a contrivance!

]]> By: Felton http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702232 Felton Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702232 Heh! Speaking of birdstrike... Heh! Speaking of birdstrike…

]]> By: JoeKickass http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702234 JoeKickass Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702234 For better or for worse, at least this is a practical application of AR. So far all we have a seen is a (vaguely) interactive magazine cover from Esquire. This technology has soooo much potential that 20 years from now we'll look back on "pre Augmented reality days" the same we we now think of "pre Internet days." ---ie: how did we ever live that way? ---conversely, oh how I long for pre AR days :) For better or for worse, at least this is a practical application of AR. So far all we have a seen is a (vaguely) interactive magazine cover from Esquire.

This technology has soooo much potential that 20 years from now we’ll look back on “pre Augmented reality days” the same we we now think of “pre Internet days.”

—ie: how did we ever live that way?
—conversely, oh how I long for pre AR days :)

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702237 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702237 I'd prefer to see the wall, so as to, er, steer around it. I’d prefer to see the wall, so as to, er, steer around it.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702243 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702243 This seems like it would could be easily enough done with a wireless mesh network between cars. Put a camera on each and let the network identify objects and do AR stuff like this. Once it reached a certain saturation point it might even make automated driving practical. OTOH, this specific AR might cause an accident if it made an obstacle transparent. This seems like it would could be easily enough done with a wireless mesh network between cars. Put a camera on each and let the network identify objects and do AR stuff like this. Once it reached a certain saturation point it might even make automated driving practical.

OTOH, this specific AR might cause an accident if it made an obstacle transparent.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702502 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702502 I'm sure Vernor Vinge is thrilled to see that someone read "Rainbow's End". I’m sure Vernor Vinge is thrilled to see that someone read “Rainbow’s End”.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702250 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702250 How could that work and update the angle as you move by like that? Even if they had it rigged so that it moves as you move, it would only work for one person at a time. How could that work and update the angle as you move by like that? Even if they had it rigged so that it moves as you move, it would only work for one person at a time.

]]> By: simonbarsinister http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702254 simonbarsinister Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702254 The Americans will deploy this sophisticated augmented reality system for several million dollars that will project blended camera views on dangerous corners. The Russians will install a mirror at the corner. The Americans will deploy this sophisticated augmented reality system for several million dollars that will project blended camera views on dangerous corners.

The Russians will install a mirror at the corner.

]]> By: peterbruells http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702261 peterbruells Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702261 @JoelKickass Here's the vision from the future, a comic by the German artist "Jamiri" http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-50124.html I'll provide the translation. Page 1 "At first we couldn't imagine why we should be reachable at any time." "Soon we couldn't imagine not being reachable at any time" Page 2: "1999/2009 the same for mobile internet" "I supposed augmented reality will be the next big thing." Page 3: "In tens years we won't understand how we were ever able to understand reality without superimposed additional information".. ID: Beate (Wife) Mood: kinda bda Probability of choleric fit: 54% Options: - avoid eve-contact At imminent danger - don't talk back - accept guilt - seek out save place @JoelKickass Here’s the vision from the future, a comic by the German artist “Jamiri”

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-50124.html

I’ll provide the translation.

Page 1

“At first we couldn’t imagine why we should be reachable at any time.”

“Soon we couldn’t imagine not being reachable at any time”

Page 2:

“1999/2009 the same for mobile internet”

“I supposed augmented reality will be the next big thing.”

Page 3:

“In tens years we won’t understand how we were ever able to understand reality without superimposed additional information”..

ID: Beate (Wife)

Mood: kinda bda

Probability of choleric fit: 54%

Options:

- avoid eve-contact

At imminent danger

- don’t talk back
- accept guilt
- seek out save place

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702264 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702264 I understand as well as anyone the benefits of something like this. I was actually hit by a car just last week on my bicycle when the car went through a stop sign at a blind corner without stopping. (He slowed down somewhat because of car traffic going across, so I wasn't hurt too badly, thank God. My bike was totaled though.) I doubt this sort of thing would be applied at a large scale, though, because of aesthetic issues. Must building owners probably won't want their buildings to be semi-transparent. I understand as well as anyone the benefits of something like this. I was actually hit by a car just last week on my bicycle when the car went through a stop sign at a blind corner without stopping. (He slowed down somewhat because of car traffic going across, so I wasn’t hurt too badly, thank God. My bike was totaled though.)

I doubt this sort of thing would be applied at a large scale, though, because of aesthetic issues. Must building owners probably won’t want their buildings to be semi-transparent.

]]> By: ian71 http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702268 ian71 Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702268 This can't possibly work as well as is shown. The projector displaying the image on the side of the building would need to know exactly where the viewer was in order for the image to be shown. If you're 20 feet or 200 feet away from the corner you won't see the alley car in the same position on the wall. This can’t possibly work as well as is shown.

The projector displaying the image on the side of the building would need to know exactly where the viewer was in order for the image to be shown. If you’re 20 feet or 200 feet away from the corner you won’t see the alley car in the same position on the wall.

]]> By: Aleknevicus http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702276 Aleknevicus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702276 Further to this, such a system would be unable to handle multiple "viewers" at the same time. How would the system decide which image to project -- the one for the viewer at 20 feet or the one for the viewer at 200 feet? Further to this, such a system would be unable to handle multiple “viewers” at the same time. How would the system decide which image to project — the one for the viewer at 20 feet or the one for the viewer at 200 feet?

]]> By: RyanMcFitz http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702293 RyanMcFitz Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702293 Solving the technological challenges in camera-placement has tremendous utility in ushering in a new, safer age where motorists approach blind corners while staring at a monitor while driving. As a side-effect, this might finally catalyze the long-overdue personal jetpack era so the rest of us can hover in relative safety above motorists who are essentially watching TV while driving. Solving the technological challenges in camera-placement has tremendous utility in ushering in a new, safer age where motorists approach blind corners while staring at a monitor while driving.

As a side-effect, this might finally catalyze the long-overdue personal jetpack era so the rest of us can hover in relative safety above motorists who are essentially watching TV while driving.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-718431 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-718431 OMG! wall hax0r! OMG! wall hax0r!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-704103 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704103 hmmmmmmm.... cool but stupid at the same time!...i can see ppl driving right into the wall thinking its not there! @_@ hmmmmmmm…. cool but stupid at the same time!…i can see ppl driving right into the wall thinking its not there! @_@

]]> By: wobblesthegoose http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702313 wobblesthegoose Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702313 Vernor Vinge wants his royalty check. Vernor Vinge wants his royalty check.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702323 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702323 @12, 13: I assumed that it would be a video feed transmitted to special AR-capable car windscreens or something, not actually projected onto the wall. @12, 13: I assumed that it would be a video feed transmitted to special AR-capable car windscreens or something, not actually projected onto the wall.

]]> By: SamSam http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702352 SamSam Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702352 The "drivers" use of this is silly, I think, for all the reasons listed above. However, I can see much more use for this for the military, cops, and I'm sure dozens of others. If you're the commander of a squad moving through an urban landscape, you could (1) rely on people's reports of what's ahead, (2) equip men with video cameras and view multiple feeds on a bunch of screens, or (3) equip men with video cameras and see through walls via your own video camera. The third seems like it could be very useful. Even more useful, indeed, if everyone is feeding everyone else information. That way every squad member could have see-through-walls capabilities in their flip-down heads-up display. Of course you wouldn't be able to see any further than the furthers individual could see, but it's a start. Add a few small mobile robots with cameras and you're seeing much further. The “drivers” use of this is silly, I think, for all the reasons listed above.

However, I can see much more use for this for the military, cops, and I’m sure dozens of others.

If you’re the commander of a squad moving through an urban landscape, you could (1) rely on people’s reports of what’s ahead, (2) equip men with video cameras and view multiple feeds on a bunch of screens, or (3) equip men with video cameras and see through walls via your own video camera. The third seems like it could be very useful.

Even more useful, indeed, if everyone is feeding everyone else information. That way every squad member could have see-through-walls capabilities in their flip-down heads-up display. Of course you wouldn’t be able to see any further than the furthers individual could see, but it’s a start. Add a few small mobile robots with cameras and you’re seeing much further.

]]> By: misterfricative http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702616 misterfricative Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702616 Ah, progress, eh? Gotta love it! Old way: Blind corner; proceed with caution. New way: Blind corner; drive around it while watching TV. Oh, and look out for that invisible wall! Ah, progress, eh? Gotta love it!

Old way: Blind corner; proceed with caution.

New way: Blind corner; drive around it while watching TV. Oh, and look out for that invisible wall!

]]> By: A Dot in the cosmos http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-703643 A Dot in the cosmos Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-703643 This would probably be more useful for the military than anybody else. Although, that's the way most of the technology today was formed This would probably be more useful for the military than anybody else. Although, that’s the way most of the technology today was formed

]]> By: gollux http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702621 gollux Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702621 Heh heh, wonder how many gigawatts of power generation the US will have to add if this becomes commonplace? Heh heh, wonder how many gigawatts of power generation the US will have to add if this becomes commonplace?

]]> By: gollux http://boingboing.net/2010/02/01/augmented-reality-id.html#comment-702622 gollux Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-702622 Augmented reality for guys, tells you your wife is ticked and about to clock you... Augmented reality for guys, tells you your wife is ticked and about to clock you…

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