Comments on: Die Antwoord, S. African zef-rap, and Progeria survivor Leon Botha http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sat, 18 May 2013 14:51:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704769 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704769 Waddy Jones is the mastermind behind the press. It's definitely all manipulated... He has been doing it for all his bands. There were 2 phases of Max Normal, comprised of slightly different line-ups. In between those 2 phases Waddy led a Hip-Hop/Graphc Novel/Anime/Figurine Project called Constructus Corporation, which was absolutley brilliant Waddy Jones is the mastermind behind the press. It’s definitely all manipulated… He has been doing it for all his bands. There were 2 phases of Max Normal, comprised of slightly different line-ups. In between those 2 phases Waddy led a Hip-Hop/Graphc Novel/Anime/Figurine Project called Constructus Corporation, which was absolutley brilliant

]]> By: Derek C. F. Pegritz http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704514 Derek C. F. Pegritz Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704514 I kept expecting a bunch of prawns to show up in one of their videos. Now THAT would be epic! I kept expecting a bunch of prawns to show up in one of their videos. Now THAT would be epic!

]]> By: elNico http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704771 elNico Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704771 I've been quite mesmerized by this since the initial post as well, and it's been fun discovering all these little bits and pieces around the web. It certainly has invoked a new interest in contemporary South Africa for me - and there's lots of stuff to discover just around these guys, as all the videos in this post prove. To some extend this reminds me a bit of the initial Beastie Boys' frat boy image, recording crude phone pranks and all that... Those 2 play well together...it's, uhm....almost adorable. She really is cute in a very weird sense...can't put my finger on it, but she could be a Gorillaz character without much redrawing. Best of luck to them... I’ve been quite mesmerized by this since the initial post as well, and it’s been fun discovering all these little bits and pieces around the web.

It certainly has invoked a new interest in contemporary South Africa for me – and there’s lots of stuff to discover just around these guys, as all the videos in this post prove.

To some extend this reminds me a bit of the initial Beastie Boys’ frat boy image, recording crude phone pranks and all that…

Those 2 play well together…it’s, uhm….almost adorable. She really is cute in a very weird sense…can’t put my finger on it, but she could be a Gorillaz character without much redrawing.

Best of luck to them…

]]> By: Drinking the well http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-705032 Drinking the well Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-705032 How nice to see that the Dutch and Afrikaner hip-hop and rapscenes are producing similar music. If you like this you should check out the following Dutch stuff: Opgezwolle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI30RBF4HT4&feature=channel Duvel duvel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4MVVPbEBTg De jeugd van tegenwoordig: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjER3EX948w Fakkelbrigade: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzWj0FjEasg&feature=channel Flinke namen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0D7f7KHdRs&feature=channel How nice to see that the Dutch and Afrikaner hip-hop and rapscenes are producing similar music.

If you like this you should check out the following Dutch stuff:

Opgezwolle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI30RBF4HT4&feature=channel

Duvel duvel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4MVVPbEBTg

De jeugd van tegenwoordig:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjER3EX948w

Fakkelbrigade:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzWj0FjEasg&feature=channel

Flinke namen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0D7f7KHdRs&feature=channel

]]> By: lietsjie http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-706313 lietsjie Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-706313 "And, finally, the South African media are waking up to the phenomenon. http://www.thedailymaverick.co.za/article/2010-02-05-die-antwoord-how-an-afrikaans-zef-rap-trio-electrified-the-planet" Surprisingly this article was published in the Rapport (Afrikaans sunday paper) in January and it invokes Russian critic Bakhtin to explore what Die Antwoord is up to. http://www.rapport.co.za/Content/Weekliks/Nuus/2317/849e1035093e4081b998ab752347a025/09-01-2010-03-45/Die_Antwoord_op_Bakhtin “And, finally, the South African media are waking up to the phenomenon. http://www.thedailymaverick.co.za/article/2010-02-05-die-antwoord-how-an-afrikaans-zef-rap-trio-electrified-the-planet”

Surprisingly this article was published in the Rapport (Afrikaans sunday paper) in January and it invokes Russian critic Bakhtin to explore what Die Antwoord is up to.
http://www.rapport.co.za/Content/Weekliks/Nuus/2317/849e1035093e4081b998ab752347a025/09-01-2010-03-45/Die_Antwoord_op_Bakhtin

]]> By: Pantograph http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704778 Pantograph Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704778 OK I was not prepared for that o_O. OK I was not prepared for that o_O.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704523 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704523 http://www.watkykjy.co.za/2010/01/die-antwoord-beat-boy-met-lyrics/ Here you can listen to the full version of zef-side, but be carefull the lyrics are a lot more explicit than they are in the youtube video. http://www.watkykjy.co.za/2010/01/die-antwoord-beat-boy-met-lyrics/

Here you can listen to the full version of zef-side, but be carefull the lyrics are a lot more explicit than they are in the youtube video.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-706573 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-706573 One word: Jägermeister. One word: Jägermeister.

]]> By: elNico http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704782 elNico Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704782 Oh, and their site just re-confirmed that I DO want Flash on my internets. It's so simple to do and would be a complete pain with any other current format that I know of... Oh, and their site just re-confirmed that I DO want Flash on my internets. It’s so simple to do and would be a complete pain with any other current format that I know of…

]]> By: catcubed http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-711950 catcubed Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-711950 Ah of course, Die Antwood is Watkin Tudor Jones—don't knwo how I missed that. Check out Watkin's earlier album The Fantastic Kill, it's excellent! http://www.discogs.com/Watkin-Tudor-Jones-The-Fantastic-Kill/release/1283679 Ah of course, Die Antwood is Watkin Tudor Jones—don’t knwo how I missed that. Check out Watkin’s earlier album The Fantastic Kill, it’s excellent!

http://www.discogs.com/Watkin-Tudor-Jones-The-Fantastic-Kill/release/1283679

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704527 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704527 Wow this is WIN! Wow this is WIN!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-705815 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-705815 And, finally, the South African media are waking up to the phenomenon. http://www.thedailymaverick.co.za/article/2010-02-05-die-antwoord-how-an-afrikaans-zef-rap-trio-electrified-the-planet And, finally, the South African media are waking up to the phenomenon. http://www.thedailymaverick.co.za/article/2010-02-05-die-antwoord-how-an-afrikaans-zef-rap-trio-electrified-the-planet

]]> By: GoodBlood http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704538 GoodBlood Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704538 I love this. I love this.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-705818 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-705818 http://videogum.com/archives/backlashes/die_antwoord_is_fake_and_so_wh_112671.html Just checked out videogum. Apparently Die Antwoord's just some arts kids doing there thing, not a legit band. Sorry. Enter the Ninja is an AWSOME song though. -eric http://videogum.com/archives/backlashes/die_antwoord_is_fake_and_so_wh_112671.html

Just checked out videogum. Apparently Die Antwoord’s just some arts kids doing there thing, not a legit band. Sorry. Enter the Ninja is an AWSOME song though.

-eric

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-793883 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-793883 Leon's also been the subject of an art project,showed in cape town and next in Amsterdam: http://www.torchgallery.com/exhibitions/who-am-i.html Leon’s also been the subject of an art project,showed in cape town and next in Amsterdam: http://www.torchgallery.com/exhibitions/who-am-i.html

]]> By: Cruxx http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704539 Cruxx Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704539 I have a crush on that girl now.. man I love these guys I have a crush on that girl now.. man I love these guys

]]> By: lewis stoole http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704542 lewis stoole Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704542 what does the thumb-n-fist hand gesture mean in south africa? what does the thumb-n-fist hand gesture mean in south africa?

]]> By: wrybread http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-705566 wrybread Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-705566 Personally, I think the phrase "meme-burst" is the most amazing and enduring element to come out of this meme-burst... <a href = "http://friskypriests.com/knnk">friskypriests.com/knnk</a> Personally, I think the phrase “meme-burst” is the most amazing and enduring element to come out of this meme-burst…

friskypriests.com/knnk

]]> By: 13strong http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704804 13strong Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704804 Doesn't surprise me at all that VICE Magazine love these guys - this must be a wet dream for them. Obscure cultural references? Redneck image? Obscene but empty lyrics? People pretending to get drunk and f'd up? Pretty girl? Anyway, I find it weird that this is all an act, rather than a genuine working-class Afrikaans music group. I'm trying to think of the UK or US equivalent; of three people appropriating and parodying a marginalised people and culture to make music... I'm still figuring this out, I think. The music itself, though, is pretty boring. And it's depressing how many commenters inevitably start talking about how "weirdly" attractive the female member is, like that's a worthwhile contribution. Doesn’t surprise me at all that VICE Magazine love these guys – this must be a wet dream for them. Obscure cultural references? Redneck image? Obscene but empty lyrics? People pretending to get drunk and f’d up? Pretty girl?

Anyway, I find it weird that this is all an act, rather than a genuine working-class Afrikaans music group. I’m trying to think of the UK or US equivalent; of three people appropriating and parodying a marginalised people and culture to make music…

I’m still figuring this out, I think.

The music itself, though, is pretty boring. And it’s depressing how many commenters inevitably start talking about how “weirdly” attractive the female member is, like that’s a worthwhile contribution.

]]> By: Nylund http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704809 Nylund Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704809 After the first post, I was sort of "meh," slightly intrigued by the alien girl, but thought the guy was too much an idiot to hold my attention. But, looking at the background, I'm very certain that is all entirely contrived and artificial, but I love it more for that. I'm certain this is just one giant piece of performance art. The jokes and aesthetics of Max Normal simply do not jive with this group otherwise. After the first post, I was sort of “meh,” slightly intrigued by the alien girl, but thought the guy was too much an idiot to hold my attention. But, looking at the background, I’m very certain that is all entirely contrived and artificial, but I love it more for that. I’m certain this is just one giant piece of performance art. The jokes and aesthetics of Max Normal simply do not jive with this group otherwise.

]]> By: mudpup http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704554 mudpup Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704554 I'm old and have many things come and go, it is the way the world works. But if mullets come back, I'm checking out now. I’m old and have many things come and go, it is the way the world works.
But if mullets come back,
I’m checking out now.

]]> By: dmitri_man http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704558 dmitri_man Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704558 same as giving someone the middle finger same as giving someone the middle finger

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-706095 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-706095 If you like dutch rap, check these out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhkwDAiQ938 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJrHtksao9Y&feature=channel and for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFzi-vwm58M If you like dutch rap, check these out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhkwDAiQ938

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJrHtksao9Y&feature=channel

and for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFzi-vwm58M

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704562 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704562 I liked the thought so much, I condensed it to a haiku for you. I'm old, have seen lots But if mullets do come back I'm checking out now. Although having said that, she is a real cutie. I liked the thought so much, I condensed it to a haiku for you.

I’m old, have seen lots
But if mullets do come back
I’m checking out now.

Although having said that, she is a real cutie.

]]> By: reech http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-705586 reech Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-705586 GENUINE. That's it. Marketing, promo bollocks en watookal notwithstanding - these guys have a message. GENUINE. That’s it. Marketing, promo bollocks en watookal notwithstanding – these guys have a message.

]]> By: Percy Sledge http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-706873 Percy Sledge Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-706873 Please don't start calling Die Antwoord DA. DA is a political party in South Africa. I don't think Die Antwoord want's any association. Try D Ant if you have to. Jack Parow is awesome, but he's not the first. Brasse Vannie Kaap came before him. Jack Parow doesn't really care. He collaborates with Die Antwoord on two songs. Check out the South African rock scene. Most of those bands that are singing in English are Afrikaans speakers. It's nice to sea the trend reversed for a change. Thanks Ninja. There has always been a lot of interaction between artists from South Africa, Belgium and Holland, mostly because of the Oppikoppi and Pukkelpop festivals exchange program. Ninja has performed in there often with previous groups. No doubt he made a few contacts. Hopefully De Jeugd Van Teenwoordig will perform at the Oppikoppi festival in SA this year. They sound interesting. Do the name mean 'The Youth of Now' or 'The Youth of Here'? I don't speak Dutch. Xhosa death metal might not be very far off. SA's had a thriving metal scene for many years. Check out Kobus if you want Afrikaans metal, or Architecture of Aggression if you want it really heavy. There are a few groups around with black members, soon one of the will start growling in Xhosa or Zulu. Check out Wrust, from Gabarone, Botswana, if you want metal from deeper, darker Africa. Please don’t start calling Die Antwoord DA. DA is a political party in South Africa. I don’t think Die Antwoord want’s any association. Try D Ant if you have to.

Jack Parow is awesome, but he’s not the first. Brasse Vannie Kaap came before him. Jack Parow doesn’t really care. He collaborates with Die Antwoord on two songs.

Check out the South African rock scene. Most of those bands that are singing in English are Afrikaans speakers. It’s nice to sea the trend reversed for a change. Thanks Ninja.

There has always been a lot of interaction between artists from South Africa, Belgium and Holland, mostly because of the Oppikoppi and Pukkelpop festivals exchange program. Ninja has performed in there often with previous groups. No doubt he made a few contacts. Hopefully De Jeugd Van Teenwoordig will perform at the Oppikoppi festival in SA this year. They sound interesting. Do the name mean ‘The Youth of Now’ or ‘The Youth of Here’? I don’t speak Dutch.

Xhosa death metal might not be very far off. SA’s had a thriving metal scene for many years. Check out Kobus if you want Afrikaans metal, or Architecture of Aggression if you want it really heavy. There are a few groups around with black members, soon one of the will start growling in Xhosa or Zulu. Check out Wrust, from Gabarone, Botswana, if you want metal from deeper, darker Africa.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704826 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704826 First part of the Jack Parow video, there is two girls in the back of the car. The one with the big glasses is my sister... Does that make her internet famous? :D First part of the Jack Parow video, there is two girls in the back of the car. The one with the big glasses is my sister…

Does that make her internet famous? :D

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-737856 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-737856 Yo, check this out: http://www.dieantwoordzeflings.com Great shit! Yo, check this out: http://www.dieantwoordzeflings.com

Great shit!

]]> By: jahknow http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-705092 jahknow Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-705092 That Yo-landi kid could definitely find some work with Billy Ray Cyrus' family! That Yo-landi kid could definitely find some work with Billy Ray Cyrus’ family!

]]> By: anechoic http://boingboing.net/2010/02/03/more-on-die-antwoord.html#comment-704581 anechoic Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-704581 wow! Leon Botha interview *blew - me - away*! what an amazing guy wow! Leon Botha interview *blew – me – away*!
what an amazing guy

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