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		<title>By: BoydWaters</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719104</link>
		<dc:creator>BoydWaters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhh.. NOW I understand.

This situation created an untenable situation for the school: they are legally required to intervene if they observe life-threatening behavior. At least during school hours, on school property. And you get into this good-faith habit of looking after your students. So if you have an (illegal?) computer-observation program set up, and you see your kids in trouble, do you do something? Do you NOT do something?

In California, at least, as a school-district employee I was held PERSONALLY responsible for student welfare: if I suspected a kid was a victim of child abuse, and didn&#039;t report it, I could be held accountable if it later turned out that the child was being abused.

This situation sucks. Clandestine webcam observation of students is stupid, stupid, stupid. But *given* that the observation program was in place, the vice principal did *exactly* what I would have done in that situation. Or maybe I would have called the cops right away -- now THAT would have been an awesome fsck-up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhh.. NOW I understand.</p>
<p>This situation created an untenable situation for the school: they are legally required to intervene if they observe life-threatening behavior. At least during school hours, on school property. And you get into this good-faith habit of looking after your students. So if you have an (illegal?) computer-observation program set up, and you see your kids in trouble, do you do something? Do you NOT do something?</p>
<p>In California, at least, as a school-district employee I was held PERSONALLY responsible for student welfare: if I suspected a kid was a victim of child abuse, and didn&#8217;t report it, I could be held accountable if it later turned out that the child was being abused.</p>
<p>This situation sucks. Clandestine webcam observation of students is stupid, stupid, stupid. But *given* that the observation program was in place, the vice principal did *exactly* what I would have done in that situation. Or maybe I would have called the cops right away &#8212; now THAT would have been an awesome fsck-up!</p>
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		<title>By: Phikus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719108</link>
		<dc:creator>Phikus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair, candy is the gateway drug...</description>
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		<title>By: Stooge</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719113</link>
		<dc:creator>Stooge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tizroc, you&#039;re distorting his meaning. He means the policy is to only active webcams for the purpose of recovering lost or stolen laptops, and he claims this policy has not been violated.

If that&#039;s true then it means the lawsuit&#039;s just a smokescreen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tizroc, you&#8217;re distorting his meaning. He means the policy is to only active webcams for the purpose of recovering lost or stolen laptops, and he claims this policy has not been violated.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s true then it means the lawsuit&#8217;s just a smokescreen.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719117</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knew there was a good reason why i stick a rizzla over my web cam when ever I get ready for a good smoking section. Here&#039;s a hint for you all, install a program that tells you when your camera&#039;s being activated, then when they switch it on while your looking at porn, get em done for creating child porn. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knew there was a good reason why i stick a rizzla over my web cam when ever I get ready for a good smoking section. Here&#8217;s a hint for you all, install a program that tells you when your camera&#8217;s being activated, then when they switch it on while your looking at porn, get em done for creating child porn. </p>
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		<title>By: tizroc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719119</link>
		<dc:creator>tizroc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw where they said that they use it for that use, but didn&#039;t specifically say that was what the student did. It would clear up their position greatly, so I call B.S. If that had been the reason for the use of the security camera then we would have seen them state that, or the student would have been punished for that instead of &quot;inappropriate behavior at home&quot;.

No, what we have gotten from the school district thus far is.. We use it only for lost and stolen laptops. Although IF we were to have used to for other means it wouldn&#039;t have violated policy.

We also have a regrettable situation where a student and his parents have misunderstood the good intentions of a teacher to give assistance to the student. Which I am sure was what the administrator was doing, but had gotten that (possibly wrong) information through horribly duplicitous means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw where they said that they use it for that use, but didn&#8217;t specifically say that was what the student did. It would clear up their position greatly, so I call B.S. If that had been the reason for the use of the security camera then we would have seen them state that, or the student would have been punished for that instead of &#8220;inappropriate behavior at home&#8221;.</p>
<p>No, what we have gotten from the school district thus far is.. We use it only for lost and stolen laptops. Although IF we were to have used to for other means it wouldn&#8217;t have violated policy.</p>
<p>We also have a regrettable situation where a student and his parents have misunderstood the good intentions of a teacher to give assistance to the student. Which I am sure was what the administrator was doing, but had gotten that (possibly wrong) information through horribly duplicitous means.</p>
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		<title>By: cmza</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719120</link>
		<dc:creator>cmza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, if you think about, if they&#039;re trying the &quot;mandated reporters&quot; defense, they&#039;re still screwed - if they&#039;re saying the laptop was stolen, they&#039;re supposed to report it to the police, not take vigilante action on their own.  

However, I can see the difficulty if they thought the kid was taking drugs - you don&#039;t necessarily want to involve the cops.  I&#039;m not sure what the rules are there.  

But - wow, they just really shouldn&#039;t have been LOOKING in the first place!

Did no-one there see the potential for this situation to arise? No-one? I mean, if they take their mandated reporting responsibilities seriously, it must have occurred to them.  

At the very least, they&#039;re incredibly stupid.  Throw in the potential for &#039;involuntary&#039; (at best) child porn creation and distribution, and they&#039;re just criminal nitwits.  


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, if you think about, if they&#8217;re trying the &#8220;mandated reporters&#8221; defense, they&#8217;re still screwed &#8211; if they&#8217;re saying the laptop was stolen, they&#8217;re supposed to report it to the police, not take vigilante action on their own.  </p>
<p>However, I can see the difficulty if they thought the kid was taking drugs &#8211; you don&#8217;t necessarily want to involve the cops.  I&#8217;m not sure what the rules are there.  </p>
<p>But &#8211; wow, they just really shouldn&#8217;t have been LOOKING in the first place!</p>
<p>Did no-one there see the potential for this situation to arise? No-one? I mean, if they take their mandated reporting responsibilities seriously, it must have occurred to them.  </p>
<p>At the very least, they&#8217;re incredibly stupid.  Throw in the potential for &#8216;involuntary&#8217; (at best) child porn creation and distribution, and they&#8217;re just criminal nitwits.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719121</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, quick rewind. The name of the School District is Lower (PERV)ian? and they used webcams to spy on kids? Had to do a quick google to double check the story, thought it might of been one of the onion news reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, quick rewind. The name of the School District is Lower (PERV)ian? and they used webcams to spy on kids? Had to do a quick google to double check the story, thought it might of been one of the onion news reports.</p>
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		<title>By: cmza</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719128</link>
		<dc:creator>cmza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, they&#039;ve been extremely coy about why it was activated, to the point where I suspect their lawyer has told them NOT to say why it was activated, in case their reason isn&#039;t good enough - they don&#039;t want to commit themselves on the public record this early.  From what I&#039;ve seen on their site, they&#039;ve already slid sideways from the &#039;stolen&#039; position to the &#039;unauthorised removal&#039; position.

It&#039;s pretty immaterial - NO reason is good enough for what they did.  By taking the picture they&#039;re committing an invasion of privacy which -- even if they have overwhelming evidence that a laptop was stolen -- requires a warrant. Which would be issued by a judge to police, not to school officials, who are not empowered to carry out law-enforcement functions - certainly not off school premises.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, they&#8217;ve been extremely coy about why it was activated, to the point where I suspect their lawyer has told them NOT to say why it was activated, in case their reason isn&#8217;t good enough &#8211; they don&#8217;t want to commit themselves on the public record this early.  From what I&#8217;ve seen on their site, they&#8217;ve already slid sideways from the &#8216;stolen&#8217; position to the &#8216;unauthorised removal&#8217; position.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty immaterial &#8211; NO reason is good enough for what they did.  By taking the picture they&#8217;re committing an invasion of privacy which &#8212; even if they have overwhelming evidence that a laptop was stolen &#8212; requires a warrant. Which would be issued by a judge to police, not to school officials, who are not empowered to carry out law-enforcement functions &#8211; certainly not off school premises.</p>
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		<title>By: tizroc</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719130</link>
		<dc:creator>tizroc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uh, I see your clarification and agree it reads that way with the clip there and in the article. However the press release from the district spokesman didn&#039;t sit right when I read the whole thing. It read as if there may have been other times when it was appropriate to use that, and those means didn&#039;t fall outside policy. 

It is entirely possibly that I am pissed because of what the manufacture of the software and the finds from the above listed site have indicated. The software took pictures when first opened and periodically during use, as well as when they requested.

However, if the school was in the right then there wouldn&#039;t be a &quot;misunderstand&quot; from a benevolent school employee who was misaligned by the media. It is obvious there is something behind the drug issues, because the school has basically said that the assistant principal was dealing with the kid and then parents... but is being misrepresented.

Great point though, and thanks for taking my temper down a notch. Now I have to go re-find and re-read the whole school district (Mr. Young&#039;s) release. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uh, I see your clarification and agree it reads that way with the clip there and in the article. However the press release from the district spokesman didn&#8217;t sit right when I read the whole thing. It read as if there may have been other times when it was appropriate to use that, and those means didn&#8217;t fall outside policy. </p>
<p>It is entirely possibly that I am pissed because of what the manufacture of the software and the finds from the above listed site have indicated. The software took pictures when first opened and periodically during use, as well as when they requested.</p>
<p>However, if the school was in the right then there wouldn&#8217;t be a &#8220;misunderstand&#8221; from a benevolent school employee who was misaligned by the media. It is obvious there is something behind the drug issues, because the school has basically said that the assistant principal was dealing with the kid and then parents&#8230; but is being misrepresented.</p>
<p>Great point though, and thanks for taking my temper down a notch. Now I have to go re-find and re-read the whole school district (Mr. Young&#8217;s) release. </p>
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		<title>By: Chris Tucker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719136</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Tucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would it be so very wrong for me to hope that a SHARED folder FULL of QuickTime clips of under 18yo girls in various states of undress will be found on the school server(s)?

And that a list of who has access to that shared folder will surface?

The Hilarity that would Ensue would define &#039;EPIC&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would it be so very wrong for me to hope that a SHARED folder FULL of QuickTime clips of under 18yo girls in various states of undress will be found on the school server(s)?</p>
<p>And that a list of who has access to that shared folder will surface?</p>
<p>The Hilarity that would Ensue would define &#8216;EPIC&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Uniquack</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719140</link>
		<dc:creator>Uniquack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still don&#039;t get how these school administrators have still not actually been arrested.  If a neighbor was found to have installed a camera in that boy&#039;s room, he would already be in prison with a very hefty bail set and an angry mob outside his house should he try to return.  Why are people with far more power and access treated so much more lightly, as if this crime is just an issue that  should first be subject to debate?  I just don&#039;t get why the local police didn&#039;t go immediately to the homes of the vice-principal and any computer/network administrators involved and drag them out in handcuffs.

On a related note, I just can&#039;t conceive of the mindset of such a person who would do this.  I&#039;d like, just for a minute (because that&#039;s all I really think I could stand) to be inside their heads.  What emotional responses do they have to these issues?  What senses of entitlement and responsibility do they think they hold?  How do they justify to themselves what they are doing and how do they really feel about what they&#039;ve done?  Was there ever a moment of cognitive dissonance that they suppressed?  How do people like this become like this?  

It seems they are part of a larger culture of domination that affects many people in law enforcement, politics, military, etc.  I&#039;m reminded of what Reich and Fromm and Arendt said about authoritarian and totalitarian personality disorders...  I think we can actually use this incident as a &quot;teaching moment&quot; to help people see the pattern as it exists in other realms that seem perhaps more removed-- such as the increasing surveillance state, militarization of policing, prisoner torture, and other forms of expanding totalitarianism  that continue to spread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t get how these school administrators have still not actually been arrested.  If a neighbor was found to have installed a camera in that boy&#8217;s room, he would already be in prison with a very hefty bail set and an angry mob outside his house should he try to return.  Why are people with far more power and access treated so much more lightly, as if this crime is just an issue that  should first be subject to debate?  I just don&#8217;t get why the local police didn&#8217;t go immediately to the homes of the vice-principal and any computer/network administrators involved and drag them out in handcuffs.</p>
<p>On a related note, I just can&#8217;t conceive of the mindset of such a person who would do this.  I&#8217;d like, just for a minute (because that&#8217;s all I really think I could stand) to be inside their heads.  What emotional responses do they have to these issues?  What senses of entitlement and responsibility do they think they hold?  How do they justify to themselves what they are doing and how do they really feel about what they&#8217;ve done?  Was there ever a moment of cognitive dissonance that they suppressed?  How do people like this become like this?  </p>
<p>It seems they are part of a larger culture of domination that affects many people in law enforcement, politics, military, etc.  I&#8217;m reminded of what Reich and Fromm and Arendt said about authoritarian and totalitarian personality disorders&#8230;  I think we can actually use this incident as a &#8220;teaching moment&#8221; to help people see the pattern as it exists in other realms that seem perhaps more removed&#8211; such as the increasing surveillance state, militarization of policing, prisoner torture, and other forms of expanding totalitarianism  that continue to spread.</p>
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		<title>By: docsavage</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-720166</link>
		<dc:creator>docsavage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>calm down everyone. each student place the black electrical tape over the &#039;eye.&#039; problem solved. the
adults have the ball back in their court; after all,
it&#039;s their problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>calm down everyone. each student place the black electrical tape over the &#8216;eye.&#8217; problem solved. the<br />
adults have the ball back in their court; after all,<br />
it&#8217;s their problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I am utterly disgusted by the idea of a high school giving itself the right to spy on any student at any time, and totally unannounced. These are kids we are talking about. Does anyone honestly think there won&#039;t be abuses? Is anyone naive enough to believe that none of the people watching are pedophiles? Firing and blacklisting would not be severe enough. The people responsible for this ought to be tried and sentenced to long-term imprisonment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I am utterly disgusted by the idea of a high school giving itself the right to spy on any student at any time, and totally unannounced. These are kids we are talking about. Does anyone honestly think there won&#8217;t be abuses? Is anyone naive enough to believe that none of the people watching are pedophiles? Firing and blacklisting would not be severe enough. The people responsible for this ought to be tried and sentenced to long-term imprisonment.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I still don&#039;t get how these school administrators have still not actually been arrested. If a neighbor was found to have installed a camera in that boy&#039;s room, he would already be in prison with a very hefty bail set and an angry mob outside his house... I just don&#039;t get why the local police didn&#039;t go immediately to the homes of the vice-principal and any computer/network administrators involved and drag them out in handcuffs.&quot;

Because it is by no means clear hat what &quot;these school administrators&quot; is actually analogous to a neighbor (gotta be a man, right? hmm) doing that. Local police immediately going to people&#039;s homes and dragging them out in handcuffs is almost never a good idea. Yeesh. At least you didn&#039;t wish for the angry mob, too. Outrage is appropriate, rushing to judgment is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I still don&#8217;t get how these school administrators have still not actually been arrested. If a neighbor was found to have installed a camera in that boy&#8217;s room, he would already be in prison with a very hefty bail set and an angry mob outside his house&#8230; I just don&#8217;t get why the local police didn&#8217;t go immediately to the homes of the vice-principal and any computer/network administrators involved and drag them out in handcuffs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because it is by no means clear hat what &#8220;these school administrators&#8221; is actually analogous to a neighbor (gotta be a man, right? hmm) doing that. Local police immediately going to people&#8217;s homes and dragging them out in handcuffs is almost never a good idea. Yeesh. At least you didn&#8217;t wish for the angry mob, too. Outrage is appropriate, rushing to judgment is not.</p>
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		<title>By: Stooge</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719183</link>
		<dc:creator>Stooge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tizroc, AFAIK the drug issue for the moment is just a claim made by the plaintiffs and their legal team, it doesn&#039;t have to be true. What if the subject under discussion had been something rather different like &#039;What were you doing sitting in front of a laptop six hours after it had been reported stolen?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tizroc, AFAIK the drug issue for the moment is just a claim made by the plaintiffs and their legal team, it doesn&#8217;t have to be true. What if the subject under discussion had been something rather different like &#8216;What were you doing sitting in front of a laptop six hours after it had been reported stolen?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-718933</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Substance D!</description>
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		<title>By: Gainclone</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-718941</link>
		<dc:creator>Gainclone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting development! Plus, I now crave Mike and Ikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting development! Plus, I now crave Mike and Ikes.</p>
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		<title>By: AnthonyC</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719709</link>
		<dc:creator>AnthonyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A woman was awarded almost $3 million for spilling McDonald&#039;s coffee on herself. $10k for taking a child&#039;s insulin pump doesn&#039;t begin to count as a fair resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A woman was awarded almost $3 million for spilling McDonald&#8217;s coffee on herself. $10k for taking a child&#8217;s insulin pump doesn&#8217;t begin to count as a fair resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719710</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, next time I have a migraine, I&#039;m dropping some Mike &amp; Ikes. 

On another note, if these had been disabled in the BIOS, they could not have been &quot;activated&quot; by the school.  Just sayin&#039; to anyone who has a laptop supplied by a school, disable the camera in the BIOS and you&#039;re good. If the software can&#039;t see it, it can&#039;t use it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, next time I have a migraine, I&#8217;m dropping some Mike &#038; Ikes. </p>
<p>On another note, if these had been disabled in the BIOS, they could not have been &#8220;activated&#8221; by the school.  Just sayin&#8217; to anyone who has a laptop supplied by a school, disable the camera in the BIOS and you&#8217;re good. If the software can&#8217;t see it, it can&#8217;t use it. </p>
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		<title>By: Xopher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-718944</link>
		<dc:creator>Xopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, this has crossed the line from ridiculous to surreal, or maybe just acquired the Kafkaesque quality that distinguishes the nightmarish from the merely horrific.

I hope everyone involved in perpetrating this outrage gets fired and blacklisted from ever working in education again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, this has crossed the line from ridiculous to surreal, or maybe just acquired the Kafkaesque quality that distinguishes the nightmarish from the merely horrific.</p>
<p>I hope everyone involved in perpetrating this outrage gets fired and blacklisted from ever working in education again.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-718952</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time for all those kids (and all kids everywhere, of course) to take tip from &lt;I&gt;Johnny Mnemonic&lt;I&gt; and seek a Lo-Tech solution. Might I suggest a dot of electrical tape over the camera? Works wonders, does no damage to school property, and easy to remove. Then you can eat your Mike &amp; Ike&#039;s in blissful glee, safe from the Candy Police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for all those kids (and all kids everywhere, of course) to take tip from <i>Johnny Mnemonic</i><i> and seek a Lo-Tech solution. Might I suggest a dot of electrical tape over the camera? Works wonders, does no damage to school property, and easy to remove. Then you can eat your Mike &#038; Ike&#8217;s in blissful glee, safe from the Candy Police.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-718955</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha this is just sad. That poor school is going to lose all its funding and the kids will end up suffering for it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha this is just sad. That poor school is going to lose all its funding and the kids will end up suffering for it</p>
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		<title>By: UncaScrooge</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-718957</link>
		<dc:creator>UncaScrooge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story is the gift that keeps on giving.  Now I&#039;m starting to have trouble believing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story is the gift that keeps on giving.  Now I&#8217;m starting to have trouble believing it.</p>
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		<title>By: angusm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-718958</link>
		<dc:creator>angusm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, kids, now you know how to tell if your school district is spying on you: just sit in front of your school-issued, camera-equipped laptop and mime doing something flagrantly illegal. If they call you in to the principal&#039;s office, you&#039;ll know they were watching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, kids, now you know how to tell if your school district is spying on you: just sit in front of your school-issued, camera-equipped laptop and mime doing something flagrantly illegal. If they call you in to the principal&#8217;s office, you&#8217;ll know they were watching.</p>
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		<title>By: Markbrant</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719214</link>
		<dc:creator>Markbrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>April 26 2002, San Diego Ca. assistant principal Rita Wilson thought she had the athourity to check girl&#039;s underwear at their senior prom to make sure the girls were not wearing thong underwear. I thought The education system might have considered being more  aware of people within their own system who create blunders like this but it seems that ignorance is the word of the day when it comes to education administrators</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>April 26 2002, San Diego Ca. assistant principal Rita Wilson thought she had the athourity to check girl&#8217;s underwear at their senior prom to make sure the girls were not wearing thong underwear. I thought The education system might have considered being more  aware of people within their own system who create blunders like this but it seems that ignorance is the word of the day when it comes to education administrators</p>
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		<title>By: blueelm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-718959</link>
		<dc:creator>blueelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could this story possibly get more ridiculous?

Bet some one in the school has a cute collection of kids in their underwear though.

Mmmm... mike &amp; ike.  I always preferred Hot Tamales though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could this story possibly get more ridiculous?</p>
<p>Bet some one in the school has a cute collection of kids in their underwear though.</p>
<p>Mmmm&#8230; mike &#038; ike.  I always preferred Hot Tamales though.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-718961</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am neither an American nor a lawyer, but my understanding is that under current U.S. law, if you are caught with sexually-themed images of e.g. teenagers, you basically get to spend the rest of your life as a &quot;Registered Sex Offender&quot; (even if you *are* the teenager in question). I can&#039;t imagine they just magically happened to turn on the camera just in time to capture this one image, it&#039;s got to be larger-scale than that. Bets on whether this surveillance program has caught at least one teenager &quot;misbehaving&quot;? If it has - who is liable? Is it the computer admin guy? The principal? The school board? Could all of the above wind up on the Registry? In jail for possession and distribution of child pornography? Any lawyers out there feel like commenting on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am neither an American nor a lawyer, but my understanding is that under current U.S. law, if you are caught with sexually-themed images of e.g. teenagers, you basically get to spend the rest of your life as a &#8220;Registered Sex Offender&#8221; (even if you *are* the teenager in question). I can&#8217;t imagine they just magically happened to turn on the camera just in time to capture this one image, it&#8217;s got to be larger-scale than that. Bets on whether this surveillance program has caught at least one teenager &#8220;misbehaving&#8221;? If it has &#8211; who is liable? Is it the computer admin guy? The principal? The school board? Could all of the above wind up on the Registry? In jail for possession and distribution of child pornography? Any lawyers out there feel like commenting on this?</p>
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		<title>By: LILemming</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-719735</link>
		<dc:creator>LILemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me the most chilling thing in the Harry Potter books was when Harry was almost expelled for using magic when in his room when it was really Dobby.  It kind of summarized the entire issue with the MoM.  That they were watching students full time, yet were doing such a sloppy job of it that they couldn&#039;t tell when a real violation from something that was in fact innocent.  (This comes back to my feel that Voledemort was a minor enemy compared to MoM).

Then _this_ happens.  Truth is at least as strange and disturbing as fiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me the most chilling thing in the Harry Potter books was when Harry was almost expelled for using magic when in his room when it was really Dobby.  It kind of summarized the entire issue with the MoM.  That they were watching students full time, yet were doing such a sloppy job of it that they couldn&#8217;t tell when a real violation from something that was in fact innocent.  (This comes back to my feel that Voledemort was a minor enemy compared to MoM).</p>
<p>Then _this_ happens.  Truth is at least as strange and disturbing as fiction.</p>
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		<title>By: gman</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-718968</link>
		<dc:creator>gman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many questions.  So many questions.

1) What if that was his medication that you saw him taking?  &quot;Pills&quot; = drugs?  High school vice principals know better than doctors now?
2) High school vice principals now have warrantless wiretap and prosecutorial powers?  Since when?
3) Why hasn&#039;t the vice principal and the school&#039;s IT administrator (who should know better) been suspended yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many questions.  So many questions.</p>
<p>1) What if that was his medication that you saw him taking?  &#8220;Pills&#8221; = drugs?  High school vice principals know better than doctors now?<br />
2) High school vice principals now have warrantless wiretap and prosecutorial powers?  Since when?<br />
3) Why hasn&#8217;t the vice principal and the school&#8217;s IT administrator (who should know better) been suspended yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/02/22/laptop-surveillance.html#comment-776570</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This should go along with child molestation.Spying and filming minors when they are alone at home should be a serious crime.</description>
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