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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-731178</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s first keep our own government from &quot;fixing&quot; the &quot;problems&quot; with the awesome internet. While advocating freedom throughout the world is commendable, we don&#039;t need the &quot;genius&quot; politicians involved in regulating the internet in any way or we will begin to find our own freedoms reduced. 

Right now companies on the internet can lose their customers overnight and some of the big ones would be more than happy to get in bed with politicians and create a more regulated controlled operating environment with more hurdles for upstarts.  

Lets not give our own rulers the opportunity of introducing coercion, regulations, corporate welfare etc. to exert more political control over the internet even if they claim noble intent.
 
&quot;The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.&quot;

~H. L. Mencken

 JG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s first keep our own government from &#8220;fixing&#8221; the &#8220;problems&#8221; with the awesome internet. While advocating freedom throughout the world is commendable, we don&#8217;t need the &#8220;genius&#8221; politicians involved in regulating the internet in any way or we will begin to find our own freedoms reduced. </p>
<p>Right now companies on the internet can lose their customers overnight and some of the big ones would be more than happy to get in bed with politicians and create a more regulated controlled operating environment with more hurdles for upstarts.  </p>
<p>Lets not give our own rulers the opportunity of introducing coercion, regulations, corporate welfare etc. to exert more political control over the internet even if they claim noble intent.</p>
<p>&#8220;The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.&#8221;</p>
<p>~H. L. Mencken</p>
<p> JG</p>
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		<title>By: zgz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-730740</link>
		<dc:creator>zgz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have firewalled the Great Firewall of China test tool (shown in pic)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have firewalled the Great Firewall of China test tool (shown in pic)</p>
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		<title>By: MadRat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-730743</link>
		<dc:creator>MadRat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder, how does Australia feel about this and is Secretary Clinton in favor of canceling ACTA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder, how does Australia feel about this and is Secretary Clinton in favor of canceling ACTA?</p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-730746</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an Australian citizen staring down the barrel of our governments net filtering plan, I wholeheartedly agree.  

However if you make the network open, then society has to take responsibility for who uses it and how.  Freedom comes at a price.  One that many parents for instance, aren&#039;t willing to pay (i.e. supervising children&#039;s Internet usage and teaching them how to stay safe).  

This is nothing new of course.  Pick almost any area of life and you will find society favouring legislation to &quot;solve&quot; problems, rather than just stepping up to their responsibilities, so the issue of Internet filtering is hardly unique.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an Australian citizen staring down the barrel of our governments net filtering plan, I wholeheartedly agree.  </p>
<p>However if you make the network open, then society has to take responsibility for who uses it and how.  Freedom comes at a price.  One that many parents for instance, aren&#8217;t willing to pay (i.e. supervising children&#8217;s Internet usage and teaching them how to stay safe).  </p>
<p>This is nothing new of course.  Pick almost any area of life and you will find society favouring legislation to &#8220;solve&#8221; problems, rather than just stepping up to their responsibilities, so the issue of Internet filtering is hardly unique.</p>
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		<title>By: thequickbrownfox</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-730770</link>
		<dc:creator>thequickbrownfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Consortium of Comcast, Time Warner Cable  and Cox Communications funds a group known as PolyCipher.

http://www.polycipher.com/about.html

Their research appears to be exclusively tasked to tracking BitTorrent users, and they can do it very effectively. PDF link-

http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~dlmccoy/papers/bauer-wifs09.pdf
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consortium of Comcast, Time Warner Cable  and Cox Communications funds a group known as PolyCipher.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.polycipher.com/about.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.polycipher.com/about.html</a></p>
<p>Their research appears to be exclusively tasked to tracking BitTorrent users, and they can do it very effectively. PDF link-</p>
<p><a href="http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~dlmccoy/papers/bauer-wifs09.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~dlmccoy/papers/bauer-wifs09.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-730771</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got tired of NBC blocking all SNL videos and Youtube blocking many music videos because I&#039;m in Germany.

Sadly, there&#039;s still no really fast proxy to get rid of such restrictions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got tired of NBC blocking all SNL videos and Youtube blocking many music videos because I&#8217;m in Germany.</p>
<p>Sadly, there&#8217;s still no really fast proxy to get rid of such restrictions.</p>
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		<title>By: marco antonio</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-730777</link>
		<dc:creator>marco antonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it&#039;s about bringing &#039;Internet freedom&#039; to the rest of the world, my worry is the US Govt will take it too literally. 

Their track record (and methods) for bringing their &#039;freedom&#039; to the rest of the world suck. Invasions, destruction of local culture (people and infrastructures included), they appoint themselves as the Only Holders of Truth and never leave... unless they have installed their own puppet government in place. If that&#039;s their way of bringing freedom, I fear the moment they decide to do the same with the Internet.

I rather have a less US-centric body take charge. Nothing against Americans - just their Foreign Policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s about bringing &#8216;Internet freedom&#8217; to the rest of the world, my worry is the US Govt will take it too literally. </p>
<p>Their track record (and methods) for bringing their &#8216;freedom&#8217; to the rest of the world suck. Invasions, destruction of local culture (people and infrastructures included), they appoint themselves as the Only Holders of Truth and never leave&#8230; unless they have installed their own puppet government in place. If that&#8217;s their way of bringing freedom, I fear the moment they decide to do the same with the Internet.</p>
<p>I rather have a less US-centric body take charge. Nothing against Americans &#8211; just their Foreign Policy.</p>
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		<title>By: marco antonio</title>
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		<dc:creator>marco antonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely agree. A push to get society to take responsibility would be a welcome change, rather than the Nanny State taking control of your decisions. 

Educate and create legislation to deal with abuse or misuse of freedom as an exception - not as a rule. And hold individuals accountable, rather than take away choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely agree. A push to get society to take responsibility would be a welcome change, rather than the Nanny State taking control of your decisions. </p>
<p>Educate and create legislation to deal with abuse or misuse of freedom as an exception &#8211; not as a rule. And hold individuals accountable, rather than take away choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-899240</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t trust America.

Barry is working on a blacklist to protect us from terrorists and child predators and boogeymen and space aliens and the tooth fairy.  Some of these fears are less valid than others (I for one believe in the boogey man!).

&quot;We&#039;re the beacon of freedom and free speech&quot; my ass.

We&#039;re going to make a great firewall of america but say it&#039;s there to combat the War on Terra.

America has no credibility and never negotiates in good faith, don&#039;t believe a damned thing any party in power in america says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t trust America.</p>
<p>Barry is working on a blacklist to protect us from terrorists and child predators and boogeymen and space aliens and the tooth fairy.  Some of these fears are less valid than others (I for one believe in the boogey man!).</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re the beacon of freedom and free speech&#8221; my ass.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re going to make a great firewall of america but say it&#8217;s there to combat the War on Terra.</p>
<p>America has no credibility and never negotiates in good faith, don&#8217;t believe a damned thing any party in power in america says.</p>
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		<title>By: shadowfirebird</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a last resort, I suppose we could always go back to BBS?  Over, say, ham radio?   

I&#039;m being quite serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a last resort, I suppose we could always go back to BBS?  Over, say, ham radio?   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m being quite serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-732084</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The tool has been taken down...they say they are no longer confident in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The tool has been taken down&#8230;they say they are no longer confident in it.</p>
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		<title>By: sexy-wallpapers.</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-730838</link>
		<dc:creator>sexy-wallpapers.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each country will be on the Internet monitoring and management, and more stringent in China</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each country will be on the Internet monitoring and management, and more stringent in China</p>
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		<title>By: benher</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-730853</link>
		<dc:creator>benher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... I can finally enjoy BB posts with linked Hulu videos now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; I can finally enjoy BB posts with linked Hulu videos now?</p>
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		<title>By: dculberson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/08/beyond-breaking-fire.html#comment-730869</link>
		<dc:creator>dculberson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would work for text-only, but anything beyond that would be wayyyyy too slow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would work for text-only, but anything beyond that would be wayyyyy too slow.</p>
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