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	<title>Comments on: London Olympics: police powers to force spectators to remove non-sponsor items, enter houses, take&#160;posters</title>
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		<title>By: mcfarland</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-733952</link>
		<dc:creator>mcfarland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit early for this sort of story I&#039;d think, but anyway: we had exactly the same story in Vancouver. Arguably because of the efforts of some civil liberties factions, the bylaws were ameliorated, but City Hall maintained it wasn&#039;t intended to be as all 1984 as all that. I haven&#039;t heard of anyone&#039;s home being invaded during the winter Olympics to remove signs, despite the fearmongering. People affiliated with protest organizations being visited by the police as a friendly inquisition as to their lack of fealty to VANOC, well, that&#039;s another thing.

My tangentially related question is, why are the currently-running Paralympics in Vancouver being ignored by the protesters? Surely the same issues that were being demonstrated about during the Olympics still apply? No Paralympics on stolen Native land? Homes for the homeless before Paralympics? Come on guys. You don&#039;t want to look like hypocrites, surely. It&#039;s almost like the Paralympians don&#039;t deserve the same treatment from the activists as the Olympians. I like to think they&#039;d actually like being protested a little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit early for this sort of story I&#8217;d think, but anyway: we had exactly the same story in Vancouver. Arguably because of the efforts of some civil liberties factions, the bylaws were ameliorated, but City Hall maintained it wasn&#8217;t intended to be as all 1984 as all that. I haven&#8217;t heard of anyone&#8217;s home being invaded during the winter Olympics to remove signs, despite the fearmongering. People affiliated with protest organizations being visited by the police as a friendly inquisition as to their lack of fealty to VANOC, well, that&#8217;s another thing.</p>
<p>My tangentially related question is, why are the currently-running Paralympics in Vancouver being ignored by the protesters? Surely the same issues that were being demonstrated about during the Olympics still apply? No Paralympics on stolen Native land? Homes for the homeless before Paralympics? Come on guys. You don&#8217;t want to look like hypocrites, surely. It&#8217;s almost like the Paralympians don&#8217;t deserve the same treatment from the activists as the Olympians. I like to think they&#8217;d actually like being protested a little.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734723</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also, don&#039;t complain about big corporations sponsoring the games unless you are prepared to pay for all of it with tax dollars.&lt;/i&gt;

Personally, I could live just fine in a world without luge. You want to be an athlete, go right ahead. I don&#039;t want to pay for it with my tax dollars and I certainly don&#039;t want to see local businesses ground under so that some curler gets to pursue his dream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also, don&#8217;t complain about big corporations sponsoring the games unless you are prepared to pay for all of it with tax dollars.</i></p>
<p>Personally, I could live just fine in a world without luge. You want to be an athlete, go right ahead. I don&#8217;t want to pay for it with my tax dollars and I certainly don&#8217;t want to see local businesses ground under so that some curler gets to pursue his dream.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-733958</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much for the Olympics NOT being a corporate elitist event. BTW, I live in BC and am disabled. Any extra benefits we may have been able to get in the past will no longer be available to help cover the cost of this years Olympics. That I was directly told by a Ministry worker here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for the Olympics NOT being a corporate elitist event. BTW, I live in BC and am disabled. Any extra benefits we may have been able to get in the past will no longer be available to help cover the cost of this years Olympics. That I was directly told by a Ministry worker here.</p>
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		<title>By: gollux</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-733960</link>
		<dc:creator>gollux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Olympics is about Professional Athletes slumming as amateurs with outlandish corporate sponsorship, political posturing and major waste of resources. The economic bondage required to host them is a ruinous endeavor for any city vying for the dubious honor. The whole thing lost its lustre for me long ago. This is just another example of why the Olympics have outlived their original intent and are just another corporate greedfest. 

And that makes it a good reason to find something more useful to do with your time. Why have to worry about whether you are properly shilling for THE MAN?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Olympics is about Professional Athletes slumming as amateurs with outlandish corporate sponsorship, political posturing and major waste of resources. The economic bondage required to host them is a ruinous endeavor for any city vying for the dubious honor. The whole thing lost its lustre for me long ago. This is just another example of why the Olympics have outlived their original intent and are just another corporate greedfest. </p>
<p>And that makes it a good reason to find something more useful to do with your time. Why have to worry about whether you are properly shilling for THE MAN?</p>
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		<title>By: littlerunninggag</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734222</link>
		<dc:creator>littlerunninggag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This one seems appropriate.

(A Bit of Fry &amp; Laurie)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6CkltzGAxY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This one seems appropriate.</p>
<p>(A Bit of Fry &#038; Laurie)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6CkltzGAxY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6CkltzGAxY</a></p>
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		<title>By: LS</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734735</link>
		<dc:creator>LS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@abstract_reg said: &quot;Don&#039;t begrudge them their sponsorship money, it&#039;s what allows them to pursue their dreams.&quot;

You can&#039;t shake hands with the devil and say your only kidding.  The &quot;sponsorship&quot; helps drive a free market economy that is ruining our planet.  

Athletes may be just &quot;following their dreams&quot;, but there is a real cost for that dream that everyone else (and the environment) has to pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@abstract_reg said: &#8220;Don&#8217;t begrudge them their sponsorship money, it&#8217;s what allows them to pursue their dreams.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t shake hands with the devil and say your only kidding.  The &#8220;sponsorship&#8221; helps drive a free market economy that is ruining our planet.  </p>
<p>Athletes may be just &#8220;following their dreams&#8221;, but there is a real cost for that dream that everyone else (and the environment) has to pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubert Figuiere</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-733968</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubert Figuiere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Guardian writer should just swallow their pens now. They were tremendously bashing the Vancouver 2010(tm) Olympics(R) - likely with a good reason, I tend to think - but they forgot that unlike Canada, the UK as already some inside civil liberties violating law, like treating photographers as criminal/terrorists/whatnot, etc.

When I read about that bill in the UK ; and yes, Vancouver and the Federal Government passed similar stupidities, not their last time we might thing, I thought about that. It is getting worse.

Good luck to you fellow Britons.

Now if the sponsors where given the status of shareholder in the Olympics and be financially responsible of the debts incured...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Guardian writer should just swallow their pens now. They were tremendously bashing the Vancouver 2010(tm) Olympics(R) &#8211; likely with a good reason, I tend to think &#8211; but they forgot that unlike Canada, the UK as already some inside civil liberties violating law, like treating photographers as criminal/terrorists/whatnot, etc.</p>
<p>When I read about that bill in the UK ; and yes, Vancouver and the Federal Government passed similar stupidities, not their last time we might thing, I thought about that. It is getting worse.</p>
<p>Good luck to you fellow Britons.</p>
<p>Now if the sponsors where given the status of shareholder in the Olympics and be financially responsible of the debts incured&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mgfarrelly</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-733974</link>
		<dc:creator>mgfarrelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never supported Chicago&#039;s bid and I&#039;m all the more glad that we didn&#039;t get the 2016 games now. I can only imagine the thuggery in the name of &quot;Olympic Spirit&quot; that my city would have sponsored. As it was the &quot;No Games&quot; movement was harassed constantly by the city and Chicago 2016 Committee. Seeing them go down in flames was a bit of schadenfreude. 

The Olympics is a scam, pure and simple. Look at how they&#039;ve locked down the IP, tighter than the Super Bowl (do I have to send the NFL money now?) and profiting obscenely off the attention the big draw pro-sports get. It&#039;s not about the joy of sport, it&#039;s about cash on the barrel. And under the barrel, and in neatly sealed envelopes that arrive in the dead of night filled with non-sequential Euros, and bearer bonds...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never supported Chicago&#8217;s bid and I&#8217;m all the more glad that we didn&#8217;t get the 2016 games now. I can only imagine the thuggery in the name of &#8220;Olympic Spirit&#8221; that my city would have sponsored. As it was the &#8220;No Games&#8221; movement was harassed constantly by the city and Chicago 2016 Committee. Seeing them go down in flames was a bit of schadenfreude. </p>
<p>The Olympics is a scam, pure and simple. Look at how they&#8217;ve locked down the IP, tighter than the Super Bowl (do I have to send the NFL money now?) and profiting obscenely off the attention the big draw pro-sports get. It&#8217;s not about the joy of sport, it&#8217;s about cash on the barrel. And under the barrel, and in neatly sealed envelopes that arrive in the dead of night filled with non-sequential Euros, and bearer bonds&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: imipak</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734244</link>
		<dc:creator>imipak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@andygates, Camp Freddie -- actually the laws already exist; the Home Secretary gets the power to grant the police additional arbitrary powers in particular defined areas and for limited times buy statutory instrument (that is, by saying &quot;make it so&quot;). See the Criminal Justice Act (as amended, etc) and various other supporting legislation including the Civil Contingencies Act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@andygates, Camp Freddie &#8212; actually the laws already exist; the Home Secretary gets the power to grant the police additional arbitrary powers in particular defined areas and for limited times buy statutory instrument (that is, by saying &#8220;make it so&#8221;). See the Criminal Justice Act (as amended, etc) and various other supporting legislation including the Civil Contingencies Act.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadreck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734002</link>
		<dc:creator>Nadreck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget about the treatment of the competing slaves from various dictatorships.  One of the most sickening things I ever saw in my life were the feet of one of Saddam Hussein&#039;s Shiite slaves who had the temerity to do poorly in an Olympic race that one of the Supreme One&#039;s kids had a bet on.  Afterwards the guy woke up in the dungeons of the Iraqi Olympic Headquarters  where they made sure he&#039;d never run again.  He was comparatively lucky when compared against most people who came to Saddam&#039;s personal attention though: he lived to get out (long story) and live out in Mississauga, Canada as a refugee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget about the treatment of the competing slaves from various dictatorships.  One of the most sickening things I ever saw in my life were the feet of one of Saddam Hussein&#8217;s Shiite slaves who had the temerity to do poorly in an Olympic race that one of the Supreme One&#8217;s kids had a bet on.  Afterwards the guy woke up in the dungeons of the Iraqi Olympic Headquarters  where they made sure he&#8217;d never run again.  He was comparatively lucky when compared against most people who came to Saddam&#8217;s personal attention though: he lived to get out (long story) and live out in Mississauga, Canada as a refugee.</p>
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		<title>By: nic</title>
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		<dc:creator>nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amateurism was overrated, in that (at least in the pre-war period) it was a tool of elitism. Some of the biggest &#039;Olympic&#039; sports, such as track cycling had a global for-pay competition circuit at the time of the revival, but these athletes were excluded.

Why? - because the Olympics was about the purity of athleticism, and the &#039;purest&#039; athletes were those found in elitist university athletics programs and the officer class of the military. Who else has the horse riding, pistol shooting, sword fighting, swimming and running skills needed to compete in the modern pentathlon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amateurism was overrated, in that (at least in the pre-war period) it was a tool of elitism. Some of the biggest &#8216;Olympic&#8217; sports, such as track cycling had a global for-pay competition circuit at the time of the revival, but these athletes were excluded.</p>
<p>Why? &#8211; because the Olympics was about the purity of athleticism, and the &#8216;purest&#8217; athletes were those found in elitist university athletics programs and the officer class of the military. Who else has the horse riding, pistol shooting, sword fighting, swimming and running skills needed to compete in the modern pentathlon?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey don&#039;t forget the rampant nationalism that comes with the Olympics. Rather than individuals being recognised for their sporting achievement we are fed constant reminders of which nations have the most medals. It is not even possible to enter as an independent athlete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey don&#8217;t forget the rampant nationalism that comes with the Olympics. Rather than individuals being recognised for their sporting achievement we are fed constant reminders of which nations have the most medals. It is not even possible to enter as an independent athlete.</p>
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		<title>By: Crispy Critter</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734270</link>
		<dc:creator>Crispy Critter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not the only one who&#039;s glad to see that Chicago didn&#039;t get the Olympics. The sheer disruption of having the whole city in lockdown would be unbearable.

I like watching the competitions, but I hate the corporate douchebaggery that has invaded the Olympics. The only way I could stand to watch the NBC Vancouver coverage was to watch it using a DVR.

@ acb #19: It&#039;s already happening - we&#039;ve already had Beijing &#039;08, and Sochi &#039;14 is coming up. The UK is already well down the authoritarian path, so it isn&#039;t a bad fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re not the only one who&#8217;s glad to see that Chicago didn&#8217;t get the Olympics. The sheer disruption of having the whole city in lockdown would be unbearable.</p>
<p>I like watching the competitions, but I hate the corporate douchebaggery that has invaded the Olympics. The only way I could stand to watch the NBC Vancouver coverage was to watch it using a DVR.</p>
<p>@ acb #19: It&#8217;s already happening &#8211; we&#8217;ve already had Beijing &#8217;08, and Sochi &#8217;14 is coming up. The UK is already well down the authoritarian path, so it isn&#8217;t a bad fit.</p>
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		<title>By: gollux</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-735044</link>
		<dc:creator>gollux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And we&#039;d be required to pay with it with our tax dollars how?

Economic realities are striking home. Schools paying for busing to away games is falling by the wayside. Fuel to run busses for basic education is getting so expensive that schools are eliminating it.

And you&#039;d expect the general population to pay even more for the Olympics through taxes?  Sorry, but the economic hits and public money already taken for the goofy remakes and disruption that create the post-Olympics hangover are starting to hit home.

Just another political beast wanting to feed from the public money trough, come get your earmarks, subsidies and special interest funding here. Line up for the free money, tax revenues are endless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we&#8217;d be required to pay with it with our tax dollars how?</p>
<p>Economic realities are striking home. Schools paying for busing to away games is falling by the wayside. Fuel to run busses for basic education is getting so expensive that schools are eliminating it.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;d expect the general population to pay even more for the Olympics through taxes?  Sorry, but the economic hits and public money already taken for the goofy remakes and disruption that create the post-Olympics hangover are starting to hit home.</p>
<p>Just another political beast wanting to feed from the public money trough, come get your earmarks, subsidies and special interest funding here. Line up for the free money, tax revenues are endless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dewi Morgan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734022</link>
		<dc:creator>Dewi Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Police will have powers to enter private homes and seize posters, &quot; &lt;- Really, REALLY want more information on this. Including how they got this power, and who I should be yelling to. My MP?

Is ORG on this case yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Police will have powers to enter private homes and seize posters, &#8221; <- Really, REALLY want more information on this. Including how they got this power, and who I should be yelling to. My MP?</p>
<p>Is ORG on this case yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Do big sponsors have too much influence over the Games?&quot; is the wrong question.

We should be asking, why have commercial interests been allowed to have influence over the police?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Do big sponsors have too much influence over the Games?&#8221; is the wrong question.</p>
<p>We should be asking, why have commercial interests been allowed to have influence over the police?</p>
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		<title>By: Pantograph</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pantograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This deadly beating was brought to you by Coca Cola, official sponsor of the 2012 olympics&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This deadly beating was brought to you by Coca Cola, official sponsor of the 2012 olympics&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: arikol</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734039</link>
		<dc:creator>arikol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have ignored the last two Olympics, and will continue to do so while this malarkey continues.
Make it about sports instead of sponsorship. The sponsorship that would still be there, please have that beneficial to people, healthy and just generally in the spirit of sports, health and the improvement of the human body and mind.

Coca Cola and McDonalds as main sponsors? Why not just go all the way and have sponsorships from pharmaceutical companies and steroid makers?
These sponsorships just violate everything that should be good about these events. The paranoia in IP bull clears the rest of the good things out. Rotten from the inside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have ignored the last two Olympics, and will continue to do so while this malarkey continues.<br />
Make it about sports instead of sponsorship. The sponsorship that would still be there, please have that beneficial to people, healthy and just generally in the spirit of sports, health and the improvement of the human body and mind.</p>
<p>Coca Cola and McDonalds as main sponsors? Why not just go all the way and have sponsorships from pharmaceutical companies and steroid makers?<br />
These sponsorships just violate everything that should be good about these events. The paranoia in IP bull clears the rest of the good things out. Rotten from the inside.</p>
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		<title>By: avraamov</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734046</link>
		<dc:creator>avraamov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Doctorow - since hi-viz is now short hand for state muscle, be it police or corporate, lets construct an eruv in london which describes an olympic/hi-viz-free zone for 2012.

the whole thing is tawdry. i was dismayed when we got the olympics, simply because of the changes in my home town i knew this would bring about. enforced land grabs (sorry, compulsory purchase orders), large scale re-landscaping of a large part of the east end, etc. cities need their dead zones, or its retail parks all the way. 

to my mind, those 120 year old allotments that got buldozed were inestimably more valuable than this whole 10 day steroids-lycra-fest.

wankers.

 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Doctorow &#8211; since hi-viz is now short hand for state muscle, be it police or corporate, lets construct an eruv in london which describes an olympic/hi-viz-free zone for 2012.</p>
<p>the whole thing is tawdry. i was dismayed when we got the olympics, simply because of the changes in my home town i knew this would bring about. enforced land grabs (sorry, compulsory purchase orders), large scale re-landscaping of a large part of the east end, etc. cities need their dead zones, or its retail parks all the way. </p>
<p>to my mind, those 120 year old allotments that got buldozed were inestimably more valuable than this whole 10 day steroids-lycra-fest.</p>
<p>wankers.</p>
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		<title>By: RuthlessRuben</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734052</link>
		<dc:creator>RuthlessRuben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with arikol here, mostly. The Olympics are, and have been for a time, nothing but a corporate advertisement playground that happens to be in the same place as some minor sporting event.

At least its starting to seem that way.

When the Olympics were revived in the late 19th century, I bet everybody still had good sportsmanship and national pride in mind. Today, its just another money machine. There&#039;s enough evidence for that, starting with the 2000 Olympic games in Sydney, which were alright by their own standards, but bought off of the IOC because of the prestige and the money.

I cannot say when that whole olympic spirit and sportsmanship got lost, but I can say that I don&#039;t think it&#039;ll ever come back, so really, all I can do here is pity the poor people whose towns are hosting the Olympics, and hope mine never does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with arikol here, mostly. The Olympics are, and have been for a time, nothing but a corporate advertisement playground that happens to be in the same place as some minor sporting event.</p>
<p>At least its starting to seem that way.</p>
<p>When the Olympics were revived in the late 19th century, I bet everybody still had good sportsmanship and national pride in mind. Today, its just another money machine. There&#8217;s enough evidence for that, starting with the 2000 Olympic games in Sydney, which were alright by their own standards, but bought off of the IOC because of the prestige and the money.</p>
<p>I cannot say when that whole olympic spirit and sportsmanship got lost, but I can say that I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;ll ever come back, so really, all I can do here is pity the poor people whose towns are hosting the Olympics, and hope mine never does.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a recent victim of the IOC and its shenanigans in Vancouver, along with the local government&#039;s thrill in selling our state out for corporate gain at the taxpayers expense, let me tell you this:  You have been played, London.

The sooner this wealth-shift charade masquerading as a &#039;good&#039; gets stopped, the better for all.  

$6 billion and counting from a province with a population of 4 million -- all to watch grown people play games and to instill a false pride that comes with unknown countrymen winning a hockey game.

But at least it gives the government something to work with, namely a bunch of softened-up brains willing to completely disengage their own thinking in favour of the state propaganda.  

I regret to make known to others what is abundantly clear here, and that is that the collective wisdom among Canadians is now almost zero.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a recent victim of the IOC and its shenanigans in Vancouver, along with the local government&#8217;s thrill in selling our state out for corporate gain at the taxpayers expense, let me tell you this:  You have been played, London.</p>
<p>The sooner this wealth-shift charade masquerading as a &#8216;good&#8217; gets stopped, the better for all.  </p>
<p>$6 billion and counting from a province with a population of 4 million &#8212; all to watch grown people play games and to instill a false pride that comes with unknown countrymen winning a hockey game.</p>
<p>But at least it gives the government something to work with, namely a bunch of softened-up brains willing to completely disengage their own thinking in favour of the state propaganda.  </p>
<p>I regret to make known to others what is abundantly clear here, and that is that the collective wisdom among Canadians is now almost zero.  </p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734059</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s time to let the Olympics die if it can&#039;t reform into something less corporatist.  Maybe if people just refused to participate in it anymore until it does.  I know that I&#039;ll not contribute one more dollar in any shape or form to this organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s time to let the Olympics die if it can&#8217;t reform into something less corporatist.  Maybe if people just refused to participate in it anymore until it does.  I know that I&#8217;ll not contribute one more dollar in any shape or form to this organization.</p>
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		<title>By: acb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734060</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will the laws against non-sponsored products and political speech apply only within stadia, or within an &quot;Olympic Zone&quot; of London, as similar laws did in Sydney in 2000?  (The laws there remained on the books, and were used some years later for suppressing protests against the Catholic Church&#039;s &quot;World Youth Day&quot;.)

IMHO, given that the Olympics are a merchandising exercise which invariably involves notionally liberal states bending over to placate corporate sponsors by suspending civil liberties, perhaps it would be better if future Olympics were held only in totalitarian states, where the legal frameworks are already in place. Pyongyang 2016 perhaps? I hear the North Koreans put on a killer show...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will the laws against non-sponsored products and political speech apply only within stadia, or within an &#8220;Olympic Zone&#8221; of London, as similar laws did in Sydney in 2000?  (The laws there remained on the books, and were used some years later for suppressing protests against the Catholic Church&#8217;s &#8220;World Youth Day&#8221;.)</p>
<p>IMHO, given that the Olympics are a merchandising exercise which invariably involves notionally liberal states bending over to placate corporate sponsors by suspending civil liberties, perhaps it would be better if future Olympics were held only in totalitarian states, where the legal frameworks are already in place. Pyongyang 2016 perhaps? I hear the North Koreans put on a killer show&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: shadowfirebird</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734065</link>
		<dc:creator>shadowfirebird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes me glad I live at the other end of the country to London.  Chances of my door getting bust down by the police on the offchance I might have bootleg posters seems pretty slim (and I&#039;m not planning to get any, not that that is especially relevant).

Anything that attracts that much money is going to be corrupt.  End of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes me glad I live at the other end of the country to London.  Chances of my door getting bust down by the police on the offchance I might have bootleg posters seems pretty slim (and I&#8217;m not planning to get any, not that that is especially relevant).</p>
<p>Anything that attracts that much money is going to be corrupt.  End of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Teller</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734578</link>
		<dc:creator>Teller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just so we know. 

The Guardian:  
&quot;The government was accused tonight of giving itself draconian powers to clamp down on protests at the 2012 Olympics. Critics said the powers were so broad they would potentially give private contractors the right to forcibly enter people&#039;s homes and seize materials...&quot; 

Reuters: 
&quot;Police will have powers to enter private homes and seize posters...&quot;

Cory: 
&quot;Police powers to force spectators to remove non-sponsor items, enter houses, take posters.&quot;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just so we know. </p>
<p>The Guardian:<br />
&#8220;The government was accused tonight of giving itself draconian powers to clamp down on protests at the 2012 Olympics. Critics said the powers were so broad they would potentially give private contractors the right to forcibly enter people&#8217;s homes and seize materials&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>Reuters:<br />
&#8220;Police will have powers to enter private homes and seize posters&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Cory:<br />
&#8220;Police powers to force spectators to remove non-sponsor items, enter houses, take posters.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Buckets McGaughey</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734070</link>
		<dc:creator>Buckets McGaughey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do cities queue up to host the Olympics?  It just doesn&#039;t add up as a proposition.

So there&#039;s this guy you know, and you&#039;ve heard he throws a wicked party.  So you invite him to host one at your house.  &quot;Sure&quot;, he says, &quot;but the place will need a bit of work first.  Get an extension built.  And a conservatory.  And a swimming pool.  We&#039;re going to need lots of parking.  And a wider driveway.  Oh, and redecorate every room, please.&quot;

You agree, because after all, he throws a wicked party.

The people start to arrive.  The host charges them all a load of money to get in.  He brings in his friends to sell them drinks, to provide the music, everything.  Anybody else seeking a piece of the action is taken outside and beaten up.  You get a cut of the proceeds, but it&#039;s a drop in a bucket compared to what you had to spend on fixing up the house.

The party ends, the host and his friends leave with suitcases full of cash, and everybody talks about what a wicked party it was.  Word spreads, and sure enough other people are queueing up to have this guy throw a party at their place.

You&#039;re left with a hell of a hangover, a giant clean-up op, an expensively-upgraded house you&#039;ve no need for, and decades of crippling repayments.

But hey, it was a wicked party, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do cities queue up to host the Olympics?  It just doesn&#8217;t add up as a proposition.</p>
<p>So there&#8217;s this guy you know, and you&#8217;ve heard he throws a wicked party.  So you invite him to host one at your house.  &#8220;Sure&#8221;, he says, &#8220;but the place will need a bit of work first.  Get an extension built.  And a conservatory.  And a swimming pool.  We&#8217;re going to need lots of parking.  And a wider driveway.  Oh, and redecorate every room, please.&#8221;</p>
<p>You agree, because after all, he throws a wicked party.</p>
<p>The people start to arrive.  The host charges them all a load of money to get in.  He brings in his friends to sell them drinks, to provide the music, everything.  Anybody else seeking a piece of the action is taken outside and beaten up.  You get a cut of the proceeds, but it&#8217;s a drop in a bucket compared to what you had to spend on fixing up the house.</p>
<p>The party ends, the host and his friends leave with suitcases full of cash, and everybody talks about what a wicked party it was.  Word spreads, and sure enough other people are queueing up to have this guy throw a party at their place.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re left with a hell of a hangover, a giant clean-up op, an expensively-upgraded house you&#8217;ve no need for, and decades of crippling repayments.</p>
<p>But hey, it was a wicked party, right?</p>
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		<title>By: TEKNA2007</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734076</link>
		<dc:creator>TEKNA2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely skipped the Vancouver Olympics coverage this year.  Wasn&#039;t Salt Lake City just on, like, two months ago?  It feels like it.

I hear the London is going to have shark-jumping as an official event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely skipped the Vancouver Olympics coverage this year.  Wasn&#8217;t Salt Lake City just on, like, two months ago?  It feels like it.</p>
<p>I hear the London is going to have shark-jumping as an official event.</p>
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		<title>By: RevEng</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734333</link>
		<dc:creator>RevEng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, what?  Since when do corporations get to decide what I can display in my own home?  And since when can the police enter and confiscate things without a warrant?  And where is the law saying that displaying these things is a crime and giving the police the authority to remove them?

Seriously, Britain, it&#039;s time you stood up and made a stand.  Your police forces are beyond control.  They aren&#039;t upholding the law, they are making their own laws.  Without a trip through the legislature and a signed piece of paper, any so called &quot;law&quot; these police forces make up is meaningless and enforcing it is an abuse of powers.  From public photography, to the posters in your home, to the clothing you wear, the police are enforcing their own will without a law to back it up.  For God&#039;s sake, freedom, and everything else your country stands for, do something already!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, what?  Since when do corporations get to decide what I can display in my own home?  And since when can the police enter and confiscate things without a warrant?  And where is the law saying that displaying these things is a crime and giving the police the authority to remove them?</p>
<p>Seriously, Britain, it&#8217;s time you stood up and made a stand.  Your police forces are beyond control.  They aren&#8217;t upholding the law, they are making their own laws.  Without a trip through the legislature and a signed piece of paper, any so called &#8220;law&#8221; these police forces make up is meaningless and enforcing it is an abuse of powers.  From public photography, to the posters in your home, to the clothing you wear, the police are enforcing their own will without a law to back it up.  For God&#8217;s sake, freedom, and everything else your country stands for, do something already!</p>
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		<title>By: Bloodboiler</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734589</link>
		<dc:creator>Bloodboiler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely hate sports but love all things embodying Fail and/or WTF. I have a good feeling that the London Olympics will be spectacularly entertaining for me.

Trademark insane massive organization meets Orvellian power tripping surveillance state. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely hate sports but love all things embodying Fail and/or WTF. I have a good feeling that the London Olympics will be spectacularly entertaining for me.</p>
<p>Trademark insane massive organization meets Orvellian power tripping surveillance state. </p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/11/london-olympics-poli.html#comment-734594</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Corporations taking over the Olympics is one thing&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s not so much that the Olympics have been taken over by giant, soul-stealing corporations. The IOC &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; a giant, soul-stealing corporation. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Corporations taking over the Olympics is one thing</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so much that the Olympics have been taken over by giant, soul-stealing corporations. The IOC <i><b>is</b></i> a giant, soul-stealing corporation. </p>
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