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	<title>Comments on: Peter Watts may serve two years for failing to promptly obey a customs&#160;officer</title>
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		<title>By: OrcOnTheEndOfMyFork</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740096</link>
		<dc:creator>OrcOnTheEndOfMyFork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering why, if Jury Nullification was an option, that the defense attorney didn&#039;t offer this as an option.

After reading the nice Wikipedia article on the subject, apparently defense attorneys [i]can&#039;t[/i] point out to a jury that nullification is an option as of a 1972 court decision.

It seems the cards were miserably stacked against Dr. Watts. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering why, if Jury Nullification was an option, that the defense attorney didn&#8217;t offer this as an option.</p>
<p>After reading the nice Wikipedia article on the subject, apparently defense attorneys [i]can&#8217;t[/i] point out to a jury that nullification is an option as of a 1972 court decision.</p>
<p>It seems the cards were miserably stacked against Dr. Watts. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740608</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, hate to break it to you, but the Canadian BP isn&#039;t exactly a bunch of nice old ladies passing out candy.

Google it. You&#039;ll see exactly what i am talking about. Their border agents are notorious, especially in border states like the one I live in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, hate to break it to you, but the Canadian BP isn&#8217;t exactly a bunch of nice old ladies passing out candy.</p>
<p>Google it. You&#8217;ll see exactly what i am talking about. Their border agents are notorious, especially in border states like the one I live in.</p>
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		<title>By: PapayaSF</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740106</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, my comment gets quoted by a moderator, but also deleted...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, my comment gets quoted by a moderator, but also deleted&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740108</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If by &quot;bigger police state than China or Saudi Arabia&quot; Albatross means that we have higher documented incarceration rates then I have to agree with Albatross. According to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States&quot;&gt;the Wikipedia page on the subject&lt;/a&gt; (which has plenty of links to credible sources) the United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If by &#8220;bigger police state than China or Saudi Arabia&#8221; Albatross means that we have higher documented incarceration rates then I have to agree with Albatross. According to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States">the Wikipedia page on the subject</a> (which has plenty of links to credible sources) the United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: rebdav</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740109</link>
		<dc:creator>rebdav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I remember juries may use nullification but they must be willing to sit in jail for contempt, yes the judge can do that to them for not following his instructions.  Few people have a strong enough moral compass to sit in a cell for doing the right thing, and even fewer know that this is even an option.  I would rather see 20 criminals go free than see an innocent person punished for the crimes of the state.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I remember juries may use nullification but they must be willing to sit in jail for contempt, yes the judge can do that to them for not following his instructions.  Few people have a strong enough moral compass to sit in a cell for doing the right thing, and even fewer know that this is even an option.  I would rather see 20 criminals go free than see an innocent person punished for the crimes of the state.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740110</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think about how many people are disappeared or executed in some of the other countries mentioned. And whether you believe that China is telling the truth when they provide incarceration statistics. How many US bloggers are in prison for disagreeing with the government? How many private detention centers do we have in the US for &#039;internet addicts&#039;? Compare the admittedly unfortunate police response to various political convention protests in the US with the Chinese response to Tibetan protesters. These incidents are news when they happen in the US. They&#039;re daily life for the masses in China or Saudi Arabia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about how many people are disappeared or executed in some of the other countries mentioned. And whether you believe that China is telling the truth when they provide incarceration statistics. How many US bloggers are in prison for disagreeing with the government? How many private detention centers do we have in the US for &#8216;internet addicts&#8217;? Compare the admittedly unfortunate police response to various political convention protests in the US with the Chinese response to Tibetan protesters. These incidents are news when they happen in the US. They&#8217;re daily life for the masses in China or Saudi Arabia.</p>
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		<title>By: spanish pantalones</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740367</link>
		<dc:creator>spanish pantalones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My heart goes out to Mr. Watts and his family. Legal or illegal, his alleged behavior certainly does not sound like a problem that needs jail time (or the stigma attached to &quot;felon&quot; status) to correct. 

Looking ahead, if the evidence is as one sided as I am led to believe by the discussion here (i.e.,Mr. Watts simply and nonthreateningly refused to obey a lawful order to remain in his car, and nothing more)then his case may have a chance on appeal based on the sufficiency of the evidence. And if the law under which he was convicted makes it a crime simply to &quot;refuse to follow lawful commands&quot; he may have a challenge to the agents&#039; actions on constitutional grounds,under the authority of cases like Brown v. Texas, 443 U.S. 47 (1979), and Kolender v. Lawson, 461 U.S. 352, 362 (1983), as an unlawful seizure of person. I forsee, as a general matter, that the problem with an appeal on fourth amendment grounds will be: 1). that law enforcment has an important interest (security) in demanding that people remain in their automobiles during border searches, and 2). the Supreme Court has sometimes limited due process protections in border cases under the so-called â€œplenary power doctrineâ€ that governs much of immigration law, see Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678, 693 (2001);Wong Wing v. United States, 163 U.S. 228 (1896).

But please, enough of this nonsense about the United Police States. The comparison to China, Myanmar, Saudi Arabia, Oceania, Nazi Germany, and whatever the hell else, are insulting and poorly informed. Mr. Watts has access to an attorney, a neutral judicial decisionmaker, the right to trial by jury, appeal, habeas corpus review, proportionate sentencing. Those are only the procedural protections that we afford criminal defendants. We in the United States have devoted more time and effort than any country on the planet to resolving the issue of an individual&#039;s right say &quot;no&quot; to the police, and the underlying questions of liberty vs. security. 

  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart goes out to Mr. Watts and his family. Legal or illegal, his alleged behavior certainly does not sound like a problem that needs jail time (or the stigma attached to &#8220;felon&#8221; status) to correct. </p>
<p>Looking ahead, if the evidence is as one sided as I am led to believe by the discussion here (i.e.,Mr. Watts simply and nonthreateningly refused to obey a lawful order to remain in his car, and nothing more)then his case may have a chance on appeal based on the sufficiency of the evidence. And if the law under which he was convicted makes it a crime simply to &#8220;refuse to follow lawful commands&#8221; he may have a challenge to the agents&#8217; actions on constitutional grounds,under the authority of cases like Brown v. Texas, 443 U.S. 47 (1979), and Kolender v. Lawson, 461 U.S. 352, 362 (1983), as an unlawful seizure of person. I forsee, as a general matter, that the problem with an appeal on fourth amendment grounds will be: 1). that law enforcment has an important interest (security) in demanding that people remain in their automobiles during border searches, and 2). the Supreme Court has sometimes limited due process protections in border cases under the so-called â€œplenary power doctrineâ€ that governs much of immigration law, see Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678, 693 (2001);Wong Wing v. United States, 163 U.S. 228 (1896).</p>
<p>But please, enough of this nonsense about the United Police States. The comparison to China, Myanmar, Saudi Arabia, Oceania, Nazi Germany, and whatever the hell else, are insulting and poorly informed. Mr. Watts has access to an attorney, a neutral judicial decisionmaker, the right to trial by jury, appeal, habeas corpus review, proportionate sentencing. Those are only the procedural protections that we afford criminal defendants. We in the United States have devoted more time and effort than any country on the planet to resolving the issue of an individual&#8217;s right say &#8220;no&#8221; to the police, and the underlying questions of liberty vs. security. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740881</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may be wrong, but isn&#039;t this a direct reference to China, or what the Chinese govt would like everyone to believe.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People in official positions of authority like those border guards need to be trained in non-aggressive methods of conflict resolution.  These are not easy skills to learn but it is extremely important.  Using aggression (or really, force - force can be applied without aggression) should be a last resort.  These people obviously need better training. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People in official positions of authority like those border guards need to be trained in non-aggressive methods of conflict resolution.  These are not easy skills to learn but it is extremely important.  Using aggression (or really, force &#8211; force can be applied without aggression) should be a last resort.  These people obviously need better training. </p>
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		<title>By: PixelFish</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740117</link>
		<dc:creator>PixelFish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mgfarrelly@29 sez: And how much safer, we as Americans, are tonight because a noted author and man with no history of violent or criminal behavior was falsely accused of ridiculous offenses while simply trying to cross into our great nation.
....

Actually, if I have this right, Peter was on his way out of the country. Not IN. OUT. The border had instituted new searches on the way out, a fact they hadn&#039;t widely publicised, and his car was waved over. He states in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=1193&quot;&gt;his most recent blog post&lt;/a&gt; under the Motive section (5) that this was the case, and that further more the officers DID NOT speak to him before beginning the search. Which was unusual in and of itself. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mgfarrelly@29 sez: And how much safer, we as Americans, are tonight because a noted author and man with no history of violent or criminal behavior was falsely accused of ridiculous offenses while simply trying to cross into our great nation.<br />
&#8230;.</p>
<p>Actually, if I have this right, Peter was on his way out of the country. Not IN. OUT. The border had instituted new searches on the way out, a fact they hadn&#8217;t widely publicised, and his car was waved over. He states in <a href="http://www.rifters.com/crawl/?p=1193">his most recent blog post</a> under the Motive section (5) that this was the case, and that further more the officers DID NOT speak to him before beginning the search. Which was unusual in and of itself. </p>
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		<title>By: Shirley</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740119</link>
		<dc:creator>Shirley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate to say it but this all sounds very Kafka-esk, and as a writer he was reflecting his world.  Such a cheerful lead up to Nazism it was...

I really don&#039;t think I want to risk ever going back into the United States ever again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to say it but this all sounds very Kafka-esk, and as a writer he was reflecting his world.  Such a cheerful lead up to Nazism it was&#8230;</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think I want to risk ever going back into the United States ever again.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740376</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If Peter thinks that he has the right to emotionally hold the rest of the people in line behind him hostage&lt;/i&gt;

I hate it when I&#039;m mildly inconvenienced by someone being assaulted in front of me. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If Peter thinks that he has the right to emotionally hold the rest of the people in line behind him hostage</i></p>
<p>I hate it when I&#8217;m mildly inconvenienced by someone being assaulted in front of me. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no good reason for them not to be not only relieved of their position but imprisoned.  Lying in court is obstruction of justice.  (funny huh).  Now, were I this unfortunate gentlemen I would seek legal council in a counter suit against the officers.  IF they beat him he may be able to try them criminally.  And, since it appears to me that he is seeking justice and not blind revenge or just raging he might be able to accomplish something.  

Yes the justice system failed him in this instant, but, it&#039;s the best we have right now and we have to try to make it work.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no good reason for them not to be not only relieved of their position but imprisoned.  Lying in court is obstruction of justice.  (funny huh).  Now, were I this unfortunate gentlemen I would seek legal council in a counter suit against the officers.  IF they beat him he may be able to try them criminally.  And, since it appears to me that he is seeking justice and not blind revenge or just raging he might be able to accomplish something.  </p>
<p>Yes the justice system failed him in this instant, but, it&#8217;s the best we have right now and we have to try to make it work.  </p>
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		<title>By: adamnvillani</title>
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		<dc:creator>adamnvillani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We&#039;re a bigger police state than CHINA. We&#039;re a bigger police state than MYANMAR. We&#039;re a bigger police state than SAUDI ARABIA.&lt;/i&gt;

Try having this same conversation with China, Myanmar, or Saudi Arabia taking the role of &quot;biggest police state&quot; in a public forum in those countries, and then report back to us with your findings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We&#8217;re a bigger police state than CHINA. We&#8217;re a bigger police state than MYANMAR. We&#8217;re a bigger police state than SAUDI ARABIA.</i></p>
<p>Try having this same conversation with China, Myanmar, or Saudi Arabia taking the role of &#8220;biggest police state&#8221; in a public forum in those countries, and then report back to us with your findings.</p>
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		<title>By: JoeCrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeCrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think about how many people are disappeared in the US for being insufficiently documented. How would we know if they start picking up bloggers? These things are barely news here in the US, and they&#039;re getting less &quot;newsworthy&quot; by the year. 

Remember, legally, if the president says that you&#039;re a terrorist, you can be disappeared for the duration of the current unpleasantness. All of those laws still apply. Beloved and Respected Comrade Leader hasn&#039;t changed a damn one of those laws, and he&#039;s not gonna. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think about how many people are disappeared in the US for being insufficiently documented. How would we know if they start picking up bloggers? These things are barely news here in the US, and they&#8217;re getting less &#8220;newsworthy&#8221; by the year. </p>
<p>Remember, legally, if the president says that you&#8217;re a terrorist, you can be disappeared for the duration of the current unpleasantness. All of those laws still apply. Beloved and Respected Comrade Leader hasn&#8217;t changed a damn one of those laws, and he&#8217;s not gonna. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am confused by all this talk about the principles of the Founding Fathers and the beacon of freedom in the Cold War: did it really look that way  from ALL sections of society?

Face the truth: nobody who mattered gave a damn&#039; when black people were beaten up on the street: their rights, their dignity, and even their lives were of no account to the pale doughy masses of Middle America - not then, not now, and perhaps not ever: I have yet to be convinced that a belief in the equality of man has taken root outside a narrow intelligencia in the coastal cities.

When the spluttering has stopped and your blood pressure goes down a bit, go and ask a &#039;birther&#039; - they outnumber bloggers and the tiny, tiny minority of college-educated citizens with an interest in news outside the self-centred and self-censored mainstream media.

What we all failed to realise - bloggers and intelligentsia, suburbanites, trailer trash and all - was that white middle-Americans are closer to being colour-blind than we knew, and closer than they ever realised themselves. We&#039;ve learnt today that if the authorities stop a white man&#039;s car, swagger up and make a show of demanding his obedience, and beat the crap out of him for being uppity - or for no reason at all, because they can - it doesn&#039;t matter to other white people. 

How&#039;s that for colour-blindness?

If the goons in uniform enjoy the collaboration of the police and the courts in perjuring their way through a tissue of lies - so casual and inept that it is surely an expression of contempt for justice and an utterly convincing demonstration of their belief in privileged impunity - then why should anybody mind? 

If the press ignore it - and they have indeed, just try googling for the case and see how pitifully-few hits you get in the mass media - it seems self-evident that white men being beaten up is no more news than black men being beaten up has ever been. It does not matter to anyone who matters: not to anybody of substance, influence and power; and not to any body of citizens who might matter by sheer force of numbers.

And you can all consider this: however hard we all protest, and point to honourable exceptions to the &quot;whites don&#039;t care&quot; canard, there&#039;s no shortage of contemporary cases of brutality against the black man left uninvestigated and unpunished. Why should it be different for white men? 

Sit down and think it over, and realise that it was never about race, for all too many cops and goons and thugs; it was all about the opportunity to dominate, to swagger, and commit an act of violence without the fear of retribution. The Brave men of the TSA are little different to the billy-club wielding Bulls of the Deep South, or to the rabble of the Klan: it&#039;s just that the TSA have realised that real people are perfectly legal game, too, and that the Police and the courts and the jury  and the press are on-side.

Keep thinking: the latter-day TSA sound a lot like the mixture of swagger and cowardice that ruled the schoolyard in our formative years: bullies acting in the certainty that they will face no consequences - and bullies must stamp down, hard, on anyone who questions their authority. But if they were cowardly, what of their subjects? And what of those whom bullies left alone, unsure if they could really risk the fight? We&#039;ve all learned from an early age that evil offers three easy choices - gleeful participation, submission in suffering, or silent acquiescence; and we learn nothing truly new in studying the TSA.

What we didn&#039;t really need to learn is that cowardice and comfort in injustice turns out to be colour-blind, and it is demonstrably true that a selection of twelve just men, upright citizens and peers of the accused, will not only walk on by, or acquiesce, but will actively collaborate in beating, framing and convicting citizens of *any* race and colour and creed and background.

So why shouldn&#039;t the United States end up with a Security Apparatus of TSA (or Feds, or Police, or private security, or local militia) like the hated, violent and venal &#039;cops&#039; in Lagos? Sit down and list the reasons why you think it couldn&#039;t happen, then ask yourselves: do any of these reasons actually stack up as an effective defence of your freedoms when these &#039;reasons&#039; didn&#039;t protect Peter Watts? 

A final question: is there any way of knowing just how many people have been beaten by the TSA? You don&#039;t know, I don&#039;t know, and no-one has the means of finding out: would anybody care to bet a Dollar that the TSA could spend all day beating up a line of blameless joes - just like you and me and Peter Watts - outside the offices of CNN, Fox News and every paper published in Washington and New York, and the only place &#039;reporting&#039; it would be a tiny corner of the blogosphere. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am confused by all this talk about the principles of the Founding Fathers and the beacon of freedom in the Cold War: did it really look that way  from ALL sections of society?</p>
<p>Face the truth: nobody who mattered gave a damn&#8217; when black people were beaten up on the street: their rights, their dignity, and even their lives were of no account to the pale doughy masses of Middle America &#8211; not then, not now, and perhaps not ever: I have yet to be convinced that a belief in the equality of man has taken root outside a narrow intelligencia in the coastal cities.</p>
<p>When the spluttering has stopped and your blood pressure goes down a bit, go and ask a &#8216;birther&#8217; &#8211; they outnumber bloggers and the tiny, tiny minority of college-educated citizens with an interest in news outside the self-centred and self-censored mainstream media.</p>
<p>What we all failed to realise &#8211; bloggers and intelligentsia, suburbanites, trailer trash and all &#8211; was that white middle-Americans are closer to being colour-blind than we knew, and closer than they ever realised themselves. We&#8217;ve learnt today that if the authorities stop a white man&#8217;s car, swagger up and make a show of demanding his obedience, and beat the crap out of him for being uppity &#8211; or for no reason at all, because they can &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t matter to other white people. </p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for colour-blindness?</p>
<p>If the goons in uniform enjoy the collaboration of the police and the courts in perjuring their way through a tissue of lies &#8211; so casual and inept that it is surely an expression of contempt for justice and an utterly convincing demonstration of their belief in privileged impunity &#8211; then why should anybody mind? </p>
<p>If the press ignore it &#8211; and they have indeed, just try googling for the case and see how pitifully-few hits you get in the mass media &#8211; it seems self-evident that white men being beaten up is no more news than black men being beaten up has ever been. It does not matter to anyone who matters: not to anybody of substance, influence and power; and not to any body of citizens who might matter by sheer force of numbers.</p>
<p>And you can all consider this: however hard we all protest, and point to honourable exceptions to the &#8220;whites don&#8217;t care&#8221; canard, there&#8217;s no shortage of contemporary cases of brutality against the black man left uninvestigated and unpunished. Why should it be different for white men? </p>
<p>Sit down and think it over, and realise that it was never about race, for all too many cops and goons and thugs; it was all about the opportunity to dominate, to swagger, and commit an act of violence without the fear of retribution. The Brave men of the TSA are little different to the billy-club wielding Bulls of the Deep South, or to the rabble of the Klan: it&#8217;s just that the TSA have realised that real people are perfectly legal game, too, and that the Police and the courts and the jury  and the press are on-side.</p>
<p>Keep thinking: the latter-day TSA sound a lot like the mixture of swagger and cowardice that ruled the schoolyard in our formative years: bullies acting in the certainty that they will face no consequences &#8211; and bullies must stamp down, hard, on anyone who questions their authority. But if they were cowardly, what of their subjects? And what of those whom bullies left alone, unsure if they could really risk the fight? We&#8217;ve all learned from an early age that evil offers three easy choices &#8211; gleeful participation, submission in suffering, or silent acquiescence; and we learn nothing truly new in studying the TSA.</p>
<p>What we didn&#8217;t really need to learn is that cowardice and comfort in injustice turns out to be colour-blind, and it is demonstrably true that a selection of twelve just men, upright citizens and peers of the accused, will not only walk on by, or acquiesce, but will actively collaborate in beating, framing and convicting citizens of *any* race and colour and creed and background.</p>
<p>So why shouldn&#8217;t the United States end up with a Security Apparatus of TSA (or Feds, or Police, or private security, or local militia) like the hated, violent and venal &#8216;cops&#8217; in Lagos? Sit down and list the reasons why you think it couldn&#8217;t happen, then ask yourselves: do any of these reasons actually stack up as an effective defence of your freedoms when these &#8216;reasons&#8217; didn&#8217;t protect Peter Watts? </p>
<p>A final question: is there any way of knowing just how many people have been beaten by the TSA? You don&#8217;t know, I don&#8217;t know, and no-one has the means of finding out: would anybody care to bet a Dollar that the TSA could spend all day beating up a line of blameless joes &#8211; just like you and me and Peter Watts &#8211; outside the offices of CNN, Fox News and every paper published in Washington and New York, and the only place &#8216;reporting&#8217; it would be a tiny corner of the blogosphere. </p>
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		<title>By: TEKNA2007</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740128</link>
		<dc:creator>TEKNA2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where&#039;s the video? Is that FOIA request on-going?</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>Was the video ever made public?</description>
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		<title>By: TheCrawNotTheCraw</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-763429</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;so we had to follow the instructions as set forth to us by the judge.&quot;

Two words: &quot;Jury nullification&quot;

If I think a law is unjust, I don&#039;t care if the plaintiff violated it.  I won&#039;t vote to convict.

When I have been questioned in court concerning being a prospective juror, I tell them, truthfully, that I have great difficulty sitting in judgment of another person.  Either the prosecution or the defense challenges my selection, and I am excused.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;so we had to follow the instructions as set forth to us by the judge.&#8221;</p>
<p>Two words: &#8220;Jury nullification&#8221;</p>
<p>If I think a law is unjust, I don&#8217;t care if the plaintiff violated it.  I won&#8217;t vote to convict.</p>
<p>When I have been questioned in court concerning being a prospective juror, I tell them, truthfully, that I have great difficulty sitting in judgment of another person.  Either the prosecution or the defense challenges my selection, and I am excused.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what they say - one man&#039;s mild inconvenience is another man&#039;s emotional hostage situation.

But really - &quot;emotionally hold the rest of the people in line behind him hostage&quot;?  This happens every time I stop at a store.  Should the authorities start assaulting every one who wastes my time while they buy scratch tickets? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what they say &#8211; one man&#8217;s mild inconvenience is another man&#8217;s emotional hostage situation.</p>
<p>But really &#8211; &#8220;emotionally hold the rest of the people in line behind him hostage&#8221;?  This happens every time I stop at a store.  Should the authorities start assaulting every one who wastes my time while they buy scratch tickets? </p>
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		<title>By: thehappyengineer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/20/peter-watts-may-serv.html#comment-740140</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory --

I share your feelings of funkitude.  This whole incident has made me sick.  Before Friday I took one consolation: that this would all get sorted out and someone in a position of authority would apologize to Peter for what happened.  Well, so much for that.

I feel so ashamed of my country right now.  I&#039;m up at 4:30 AM and can&#039;t sleep.  I know America has done much worse in the name of keeping me safe, it&#039;s just that this time, we did it to a friend of mine.

If Peter has the grounds and stomach for an appeal, he definitely has my financial support.  I have a request for Boing Boing: please, to the extent that you can, keep updating us on this.  I assume the court transcripts will available at some point, and the bridge video.  It sounds to me that this Officer Beaudry lied in his written report concerning the incident.  As an American, I should at least be able to complain to his chain of command over that.

I don&#039;t want to go to G-Point this summer.  I don&#039;t want to subject myself to the uncertainties of an international border -- any border -- but more importantly, I don&#039;t know how to face David and Laurie -- and Peter, if he&#039;s not sitting in a US prison.  (Just writing that sentence made me gag.)

Where do I go to get my country back?

Steve
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory &#8211;</p>
<p>I share your feelings of funkitude.  This whole incident has made me sick.  Before Friday I took one consolation: that this would all get sorted out and someone in a position of authority would apologize to Peter for what happened.  Well, so much for that.</p>
<p>I feel so ashamed of my country right now.  I&#8217;m up at 4:30 AM and can&#8217;t sleep.  I know America has done much worse in the name of keeping me safe, it&#8217;s just that this time, we did it to a friend of mine.</p>
<p>If Peter has the grounds and stomach for an appeal, he definitely has my financial support.  I have a request for Boing Boing: please, to the extent that you can, keep updating us on this.  I assume the court transcripts will available at some point, and the bridge video.  It sounds to me that this Officer Beaudry lied in his written report concerning the incident.  As an American, I should at least be able to complain to his chain of command over that.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to go to G-Point this summer.  I don&#8217;t want to subject myself to the uncertainties of an international border &#8212; any border &#8212; but more importantly, I don&#8217;t know how to face David and Laurie &#8212; and Peter, if he&#8217;s not sitting in a US prison.  (Just writing that sentence made me gag.)</p>
<p>Where do I go to get my country back?</p>
<p>Steve<br />
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		<title>By: Scott Bieser</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only do trial judges fail to tell jurors they have a right to nullify law, they LIE to jurors and tell them that they MUST follow the law as the judge gives it to them. Many will specifically demand that prospective jurors declare under oath that they will follow the law rather than their own conscience.

There is an organization called the Fully Informed Juries Association which has been fighting to get this information out for close to a quarter-century now. Judges like their power and won&#039;t change their ways voluntarily. Legislators are afraid of being seen as &quot;soft on crime&quot; and won&#039;t back up our common-law rights with statutory requirements.

The only way to preserve this last, thin reed of justice in our system is for word to spread far and wide that, despite what our dissembling judges may assert, jurors do have the right to judge the law and its application, as well as the facts, and refuse to convict if doing so creates and injustice.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only do trial judges fail to tell jurors they have a right to nullify law, they LIE to jurors and tell them that they MUST follow the law as the judge gives it to them. Many will specifically demand that prospective jurors declare under oath that they will follow the law rather than their own conscience.</p>
<p>There is an organization called the Fully Informed Juries Association which has been fighting to get this information out for close to a quarter-century now. Judges like their power and won&#8217;t change their ways voluntarily. Legislators are afraid of being seen as &#8220;soft on crime&#8221; and won&#8217;t back up our common-law rights with statutory requirements.</p>
<p>The only way to preserve this last, thin reed of justice in our system is for word to spread far and wide that, despite what our dissembling judges may assert, jurors do have the right to judge the law and its application, as well as the facts, and refuse to convict if doing so creates and injustice.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot; Two wrongs don&#039;t make a right, so we had to follow the instructions as set forth to us by the judge.&quot;

This is actually incorrect, juries are intentionally led to believe they are legally compelled to follow jury instructions, but they are actually not.  A jury may rule in any way it sees fit for any reasons it sees fit.  This is actually one of the reasons for a jury, as a jury can prevent the enforcement of a law it sees as unjust.  For more information look up &quot;jury nullification.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right, so we had to follow the instructions as set forth to us by the judge.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is actually incorrect, juries are intentionally led to believe they are legally compelled to follow jury instructions, but they are actually not.  A jury may rule in any way it sees fit for any reasons it sees fit.  This is actually one of the reasons for a jury, as a jury can prevent the enforcement of a law it sees as unjust.  For more information look up &#8220;jury nullification.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: bmcraec</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice piece, Kevin. That should get picked up and/or cross-linked. Very well put.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@proudinjun, honest curiosity, if you felt so strongly that Mr. Watts was not guilty, why did you return a guilty verdict?    </description>
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		<title>By: logicbox</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cory, you seem to confuse the law and justice. Justice is not a joke - it is one of the few things actually worth fighting for. The law however; well, &quot;the law is a [sic] ass&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cory, you seem to confuse the law and justice. Justice is not a joke &#8211; it is one of the few things actually worth fighting for. The law however; well, &#8220;the law is a [sic] ass&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: pinup57</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sort of stuff unfortunately happens in France as well. Being charged with &quot;disobedience&quot;, because you had an expression of unhappiness on your face because you got arrested, handcuffed, yelled at, and ultimately physically molested. Anyone can get arrested for anything. It&#039;s the same security-obsessed policy as in the US. This is however publicly, and heavily, discussed. Yesterday there was a long documentary on this subject on one of the national TV networks. We&#039;re not yet in a totalitarism-like situation, but getting close. Ordinary people like me, are getting afraid of meeting the police. 
The dogm is : &quot;if you&#039;ve got nothing to hide, there&#039;s no reason to be afraid of the police&quot;. The problem is: the police knows how to manoeuver you into such a situation, that you ARE guilty of something. And as Kevin said: the only way to protect yourself is to remain as stoic as possible, and that&#039;s exactly the advice of the lawyers interviewed in yesterdays&#039; documentary, but how is this possible if they START by attacking your physical integrity?? Is this really what we used to call the developed world? I start to doubt. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sort of stuff unfortunately happens in France as well. Being charged with &#8220;disobedience&#8221;, because you had an expression of unhappiness on your face because you got arrested, handcuffed, yelled at, and ultimately physically molested. Anyone can get arrested for anything. It&#8217;s the same security-obsessed policy as in the US. This is however publicly, and heavily, discussed. Yesterday there was a long documentary on this subject on one of the national TV networks. We&#8217;re not yet in a totalitarism-like situation, but getting close. Ordinary people like me, are getting afraid of meeting the police.<br />
The dogm is : &#8220;if you&#8217;ve got nothing to hide, there&#8217;s no reason to be afraid of the police&#8221;. The problem is: the police knows how to manoeuver you into such a situation, that you ARE guilty of something. And as Kevin said: the only way to protect yourself is to remain as stoic as possible, and that&#8217;s exactly the advice of the lawyers interviewed in yesterdays&#8217; documentary, but how is this possible if they START by attacking your physical integrity?? Is this really what we used to call the developed world? I start to doubt. </p>
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		<title>By: Tweeker</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voir dire exists to make sure jurors who might do other than obey the judges instructions to produce a guilty verdict dont make it into the trial. </description>
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		<title>By: theCanuck</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been stopped while crossing the border from Windsor into Detroit and had the car I was driving searched.  I and some friends were on our way to a Formula 1 Grand Prix in Indianapolis, the boarder guard at the booth said that there was a big race on that weekend in Michigan (Nascar, I think.), but we had no idea about that.  The booth guard continued by going through the laundry list of restricted items we&#039;re not allowed to bring into the United States, fruits and vegetables, alcohol, etcetera and quickly followed with the question, &quot;Have you ever been refused?&quot;  At first I wasn&#039;t quite sure what she meant, and before I could answer, my friend in the passenger seat beside me blurted out nervously, &quot;Refused what!?&quot;  She replied, &quot;Crossing the boarder, sir.&quot;  I said no, and she put a sticker on our windshield and asked us to pull into the station.  We were asked to exit the vehicle and step inside the office, leaving the keys on the front seat.  They took our identification and, I assume, proceeded to search our vehicle.  I was too busy watching the guards with our identification to see what was going on with the vehicle.  The boarder guards finished their job and we were sternly asked to continue on our way.  These people have no idea who you are or what your intent may be, other than what you tell them.  It&#039;s unfortunate what happened to Peter Watts.  They will exercise their powers if they are uncertain what you are telling them is the truth and the potential for them to overreact is very real.   If you&#039;re not guilty of anything, comply and you can be on your merry way.  If they find out the size of your underwear, so be it.   However, does being curious about the reason for being stopped warrant the response Peter Watts received?  I hardly think so.  Could the situation have been easily diffused by a reasonable, carefully worded response from one of the guards intent on searching his vehicle?  Quite possibly.  As much as boarder guards are trained to respond to physically threatening situations with a show of force, necessarily they should also be trained to identify less threatening situations and to respond appropriately.  This assumes of course, that the type of people employed as boarder guards are individuals capable of making these discriminations, Mr. Beaudry does not appear to be one of those.  I hope Peter Watts comes out ahead in this and boarder officials get the face slaps they deserve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been stopped while crossing the border from Windsor into Detroit and had the car I was driving searched.  I and some friends were on our way to a Formula 1 Grand Prix in Indianapolis, the boarder guard at the booth said that there was a big race on that weekend in Michigan (Nascar, I think.), but we had no idea about that.  The booth guard continued by going through the laundry list of restricted items we&#8217;re not allowed to bring into the United States, fruits and vegetables, alcohol, etcetera and quickly followed with the question, &#8220;Have you ever been refused?&#8221;  At first I wasn&#8217;t quite sure what she meant, and before I could answer, my friend in the passenger seat beside me blurted out nervously, &#8220;Refused what!?&#8221;  She replied, &#8220;Crossing the boarder, sir.&#8221;  I said no, and she put a sticker on our windshield and asked us to pull into the station.  We were asked to exit the vehicle and step inside the office, leaving the keys on the front seat.  They took our identification and, I assume, proceeded to search our vehicle.  I was too busy watching the guards with our identification to see what was going on with the vehicle.  The boarder guards finished their job and we were sternly asked to continue on our way.  These people have no idea who you are or what your intent may be, other than what you tell them.  It&#8217;s unfortunate what happened to Peter Watts.  They will exercise their powers if they are uncertain what you are telling them is the truth and the potential for them to overreact is very real.   If you&#8217;re not guilty of anything, comply and you can be on your merry way.  If they find out the size of your underwear, so be it.   However, does being curious about the reason for being stopped warrant the response Peter Watts received?  I hardly think so.  Could the situation have been easily diffused by a reasonable, carefully worded response from one of the guards intent on searching his vehicle?  Quite possibly.  As much as boarder guards are trained to respond to physically threatening situations with a show of force, necessarily they should also be trained to identify less threatening situations and to respond appropriately.  This assumes of course, that the type of people employed as boarder guards are individuals capable of making these discriminations, Mr. Beaudry does not appear to be one of those.  I hope Peter Watts comes out ahead in this and boarder officials get the face slaps they deserve.</p>
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		<title>By: Raj77</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Voir dire also exists to make sure that illegally-obtained evidence can&#039;t be admitted by the prosecution. </description>
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