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		<title>By: Wingo </title>
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		<dc:creator>Wingo </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Cristobal Vila is going to be my new spy alias. </description>
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		<title>By: JonStewartMill</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonStewartMill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was the first thing occur to me too.  I saw &quot;Donald Duck in Mathemagic Land&quot; in fourth or fifth grade and it really made an impression on me.  I think of it every time I play pool.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was the first thing occur to me too.  I saw &#8220;Donald Duck in Mathemagic Land&#8221; in fourth or fifth grade and it really made an impression on me.  I think of it every time I play pool.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Beautiful video! Unfortunate linking the nautilus shell to the golden spiral -- they are not the same shape.

Golden ratio, and Fibonacci numbers, are *definitely* in sunflower spirals and many others. Here&#039;s an excellent paper by Naylor that&#039;s easy to follow about the mathematics involved:

http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~mnaylor/naylor-seeds.pdf

The golden ratio is the &quot;most irrational&quot; number, making it the best choice for organizing leaves and seeds and other things in plant. &quot;From chaos comes order&quot; -- mind-blowing ideas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beautiful video! Unfortunate linking the nautilus shell to the golden spiral &#8212; they are not the same shape.</p>
<p>Golden ratio, and Fibonacci numbers, are *definitely* in sunflower spirals and many others. Here&#8217;s an excellent paper by Naylor that&#8217;s easy to follow about the mathematics involved:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~mnaylor/naylor-seeds.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~mnaylor/naylor-seeds.pdf</a></p>
<p>The golden ratio is the &#8220;most irrational&#8221; number, making it the best choice for organizing leaves and seeds and other things in plant. &#8220;From chaos comes order&#8221; &#8212; mind-blowing ideas!</p>
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		<title>By: technogeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>technogeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Likewise; the Disney educational cartoon stayed with me as well. (Though I never remember the exact trick for the 3-cushion billiards shot.)

Re the &quot;math is sexy&quot; image -- Also nice. I could see that one as a poster, though I think there needs to be a beefcake equivalent to balance it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Likewise; the Disney educational cartoon stayed with me as well. (Though I never remember the exact trick for the 3-cushion billiards shot.)</p>
<p>Re the &#8220;math is sexy&#8221; image &#8212; Also nice. I could see that one as a poster, though I think there needs to be a beefcake equivalent to balance it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/22/dreamlike-animation.html#comment-742681</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>energy efficient = beautiful</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>energy efficient = beautiful</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/22/dreamlike-animation.html#comment-741915</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Wikipedia:

&quot;Some specific proportions in the bodies of many animals (including humans[69][70]) and parts of the shells of mollusks[4]  and cephalopods are often claimed to be in the golden ratio. There is actually a large variation in the real measures of these elements in specific individuals, and the proportion in question is often significantly different from the golden ratio.[69]  The ratio of successive phalangeal bones of the digits and the metacarpal bone has been said to approximate the golden ratio.[70]  The nautilus  shell, the construction of which proceeds in a logarithmic spiral, is often cited, usually with the idea that any logarithmic spiral is related to the golden ratio, but sometimes with the claim that each new chamber is proportioned by the golden ratio relative to the previous one;[71]  however, measurements of nautilus shells do not support this claim.[72]&quot;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio

So, while a nice animation, it is a common misconception that sunflowers, etc, have these ratios inside them. I suggest attempting to count the seeds in a spiral sometime, you will be surprisingly not close at all to these ratios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Wikipedia:</p>
<p>&#8220;Some specific proportions in the bodies of many animals (including humans[69][70]) and parts of the shells of mollusks[4]  and cephalopods are often claimed to be in the golden ratio. There is actually a large variation in the real measures of these elements in specific individuals, and the proportion in question is often significantly different from the golden ratio.[69]  The ratio of successive phalangeal bones of the digits and the metacarpal bone has been said to approximate the golden ratio.[70]  The nautilus  shell, the construction of which proceeds in a logarithmic spiral, is often cited, usually with the idea that any logarithmic spiral is related to the golden ratio, but sometimes with the claim that each new chamber is proportioned by the golden ratio relative to the previous one;[71]  however, measurements of nautilus shells do not support this claim.[72]&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio</a></p>
<p>So, while a nice animation, it is a common misconception that sunflowers, etc, have these ratios inside them. I suggest attempting to count the seeds in a spiral sometime, you will be surprisingly not close at all to these ratios.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course nautiluses, dragonflies, and sunflowers get on all right without math class.  This is visually stunning, but the stuff at http://www.ams.org/mathmoments/ are much more interesting as far as applications go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course nautiluses, dragonflies, and sunflowers get on all right without math class.  This is visually stunning, but the stuff at <a href="http://www.ams.org/mathmoments/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ams.org/mathmoments/</a> are much more interesting as far as applications go.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Dow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Dow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is some literature regarding how the human visual system geometry is related to patterns that occur spontaneously. For example this Plus article and the links within:

Uncoiling the spiral: Maths and hallucinations
http://plus.maths.org/issue53/features/hallucinations/index.html

It&#039;s not clear why the visual system is organized this way, but there is speculation why many things in nature, including the human visual system, might use similar organizing principles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is some literature regarding how the human visual system geometry is related to patterns that occur spontaneously. For example this Plus article and the links within:</p>
<p>Uncoiling the spiral: Maths and hallucinations<br />
<a href="http://plus.maths.org/issue53/features/hallucinations/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://plus.maths.org/issue53/features/hallucinations/index.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s not clear why the visual system is organized this way, but there is speculation why many things in nature, including the human visual system, might use similar organizing principles.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>should have been soundtracked to Lateralus by Tool</description>
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		<title>By: missamo80</title>
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		<dc:creator>missamo80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on the comments regarding Donald Duck in Mathemagic Land. I still remember that one from school. YouTube to the rescue:

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYia02Dk8Nc
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhEXPfFFS40
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbcD0RFUEfc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on the comments regarding Donald Duck in Mathemagic Land. I still remember that one from school. YouTube to the rescue:</p>
<p>Part 1: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYia02Dk8Nc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYia02Dk8Nc</a><br />
Part 2: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhEXPfFFS40" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhEXPfFFS40</a><br />
Part 3: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbcD0RFUEfc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbcD0RFUEfc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Nautilus shell is not the fibonacci sequence!

http://www.shallowsky.com/blog/science/fibonautilus.html

http://www.sonoma.edu/Math/faculty/falbo/cmj123-134

http://www.springerlink.com/content/f7j040k4332143n2/fulltext.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Nautilus shell is not the fibonacci sequence!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shallowsky.com/blog/science/fibonautilus.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.shallowsky.com/blog/science/fibonautilus.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sonoma.edu/Math/faculty/falbo/cmj123-134" rel="nofollow">http://www.sonoma.edu/Math/faculty/falbo/cmj123-134</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/f7j040k4332143n2/fulltext.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.springerlink.com/content/f7j040k4332143n2/fulltext.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: querent</title>
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		<dc:creator>querent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s my theory: some people love to debate whether math is the &quot;language of god&quot; or whether it&#039;s &quot;just in our heads.&quot;  But what&#039;s in our heads is our primary evolutionary adaptation.  If it didn&#039;t fit &quot;reality&quot; well (in some sense), we wouldn&#039;t still be here.

So I think the fact that we find math beautiful is because we&#039;re designed to seek fundamental patterns in the service of our own survival.  Of course, structures of behaviors that evolution designs for one purpose often get co-opted....  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my theory: some people love to debate whether math is the &#8220;language of god&#8221; or whether it&#8217;s &#8220;just in our heads.&#8221;  But what&#8217;s in our heads is our primary evolutionary adaptation.  If it didn&#8217;t fit &#8220;reality&#8221; well (in some sense), we wouldn&#8217;t still be here.</p>
<p>So I think the fact that we find math beautiful is because we&#8217;re designed to seek fundamental patterns in the service of our own survival.  Of course, structures of behaviors that evolution designs for one purpose often get co-opted&#8230;.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t particularly enjoy math class, but this was an incredible short film. I knew that some of these patterns were in nature in some examples, but i didn&#039;t think that there were this many. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t particularly enjoy math class, but this was an incredible short film. I knew that some of these patterns were in nature in some examples, but i didn&#8217;t think that there were this many. </p>
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		<title>By: querent</title>
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		<dc:creator>querent</dc:creator>
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		<description>&quot;structures OR behaviors&quot;

also: wow.  thanks so much for this.  I&#039;d actually never caught the connection between phi and the sunflower before, though I&#039;d heard there was one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;structures OR behaviors&#8221;</p>
<p>also: wow.  thanks so much for this.  I&#8217;d actually never caught the connection between phi and the sunflower before, though I&#8217;d heard there was one.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>It is because we are built with the same structures and therefore we see the world through a brain that is of like design.  It flows through our mind.  This is why the world seems to be such a beautiful place.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is because we are built with the same structures and therefore we see the world through a brain that is of like design.  It flows through our mind.  This is why the world seems to be such a beautiful place.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
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		<description>I am taken by the beauty of your imagination. And the depth of your creativity, leaves me still, swimming in a sea of visionary excellence...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am taken by the beauty of your imagination. And the depth of your creativity, leaves me still, swimming in a sea of visionary excellence&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Es fantÃ¡stico. Pero tiene un fallo. Las inflorescencias de la margarita que sale en el minuto 2,5 deberÃ­an estar dispuestas en espirales logarÃ­tmicas dextrÃ³giras y levÃ³giras y la cantidad de ambas tienen que ser dos nÃºmeros consecutivos de Fibonacci. Yo tambiÃ©n intentÃ© al principio hacer un dibujo similar con la misma estructura en sentido levÃ³giro y dextrÃ³giro y no comprendÃ­a por quÃ© me salian figuras diferentes a las de la naturaleza. Al final fue Martin Gardner quien me lo hizo ver en su libro &quot;Izquierda y derecha en el cosmos&quot;.
De todas formas, enhorabuena! y ... gracias.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Es fantÃ¡stico. Pero tiene un fallo. Las inflorescencias de la margarita que sale en el minuto 2,5 deberÃ­an estar dispuestas en espirales logarÃ­tmicas dextrÃ³giras y levÃ³giras y la cantidad de ambas tienen que ser dos nÃºmeros consecutivos de Fibonacci. Yo tambiÃ©n intentÃ© al principio hacer un dibujo similar con la misma estructura en sentido levÃ³giro y dextrÃ³giro y no comprendÃ­a por quÃ© me salian figuras diferentes a las de la naturaleza. Al final fue Martin Gardner quien me lo hizo ver en su libro &#8220;Izquierda y derecha en el cosmos&#8221;.<br />
De todas formas, enhorabuena! y &#8230; gracias.</p>
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		<title>By: VoxExMachina</title>
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		<dc:creator>VoxExMachina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, that&#039;s beautiful.

So, presumably, the reason that these shapes and sequences appear over and over again in nature is that they&#039;re energy efficient to construct/deploy (feel free to poke my logic there if I&#039;m missing something in the biology.)  My question is:  Are they aesthetically pleasing because they&#039;re cheap, or because they&#039;re plentiful?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, that&#8217;s beautiful.</p>
<p>So, presumably, the reason that these shapes and sequences appear over and over again in nature is that they&#8217;re energy efficient to construct/deploy (feel free to poke my logic there if I&#8217;m missing something in the biology.)  My question is:  Are they aesthetically pleasing because they&#8217;re cheap, or because they&#8217;re plentiful?</p>
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		<title>By: cymk</title>
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		<description>Watching that made me think of the movie&lt;em&gt;Pi&lt;/em&gt; and the hypothesis the main character recited: Math is the language of nature; everything around us can be understood through numbers; through graphing said numbers, patterns emerge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching that made me think of the movie<em>Pi</em> and the hypothesis the main character recited: Math is the language of nature; everything around us can be understood through numbers; through graphing said numbers, patterns emerge.</p>
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		<title>By: imag</title>
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		<description>That was really very especially nicely done.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was really very especially nicely done.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadreck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadreck</dc:creator>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s all right but it&#039;s no &lt;i&gt;Donald Duck in Mathemagics Land&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s all right but it&#8217;s no <i>Donald Duck in Mathemagics Land</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: chenille</title>
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		<dc:creator>chenille</dc:creator>
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		<description>This was nicely animated. The connection between the golden ratio and plant growth is a good one. It has to do with packing efficiency, although I haven&#039;t actually found the mathematical proof of why.

I think the nautilus might be a stretch, though. It definitely relates to logarithmic spirals, ones where the curve keeps a constant angle to its center. But the golden ratio relates to a specific angle, and I haven&#039;t seen anyone discuss how close this is to the one in the shell.

&lt;i&gt;Donald Duck in Mathemagic Land&lt;/i&gt; does this too, although in most respects it is brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was nicely animated. The connection between the golden ratio and plant growth is a good one. It has to do with packing efficiency, although I haven&#8217;t actually found the mathematical proof of why.</p>
<p>I think the nautilus might be a stretch, though. It definitely relates to logarithmic spirals, ones where the curve keeps a constant angle to its center. But the golden ratio relates to a specific angle, and I haven&#8217;t seen anyone discuss how close this is to the one in the shell.</p>
<p><i>Donald Duck in Mathemagic Land</i> does this too, although in most respects it is brilliant.</p>
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		<title>By: jfrancis</title>
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		<description>Voronoi via Photoshop blend modes

http://www.digitalartform.com/archives/2009/06/simulating_voro.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voronoi via Photoshop blend modes</p>
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		<title>By: msiegler</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/22/dreamlike-animation.html#comment-742810</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@cymk: And me as well, for a different reason:

&quot;If you want the number you can find it everywhere: steps from your street corner to your front door, seconds you spend in the elevator. When your mind becomes obsessed you filter everything else out and find that thing everywhere.&quot;

&gt; Watching that made me think of the moviePi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@cymk: And me as well, for a different reason:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you want the number you can find it everywhere: steps from your street corner to your front door, seconds you spend in the elevator. When your mind becomes obsessed you filter everything else out and find that thing everywhere.&#8221;</p>
<p>> Watching that made me think of the moviePi.</p>
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		<title>By: Cowicide</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/22/dreamlike-animation.html#comment-744351</link>
		<dc:creator>Cowicide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;should have been soundtracked to Lateralus by Tool&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here ya go.  Butchered together here, but it &quot;works&quot; in parts...  need much more video and/or loops, editing as Lateralus is a very long song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j87tX7vypTc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>should have been soundtracked to Lateralus by Tool</p></blockquote>
<p>Here ya go.  Butchered together here, but it &#8220;works&#8221; in parts&#8230;  need much more video and/or loops, editing as Lateralus is a very long song.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j87tX7vypTc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j87tX7vypTc</a></p>
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		<title>By: wylkyn</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was just teaching my daughter how to calculate the Fibonacci Sequence the other day. This will serve as a great illustration. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was just teaching my daughter how to calculate the Fibonacci Sequence the other day. This will serve as a great illustration. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Raywood</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/22/dreamlike-animation.html#comment-743086</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Raywood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely into the artfulness as well as the technical skill that went into this little production. Very cool visual experience and nice score as well.

As for the claims, the somewhat technical assertions that come in along the lines of &quot;Well actually, according to ...&quot;, (and don&#039;t we all have friend like that?), one might be mindful to exercise caution even with the cautious. No one proposes that there&#039;s any singular example in all of nature that adheres utterly precisely to the Fibonacci sequence. However, the extent to which that model is so often and so closely approximated (plus OR minus) leaves one comfortably confident that on balance, yes, the series is a fit. So no, it&#039;s not about scrutinizing over the seed patterns of a single sunflower (for example). It&#039;s about accepting the fact that any sample flower you inspect would, yes, approximates Fibonacci. This alone is a remarkable thing. Extrapolating by inference that phi (Fibonacci) is the fundamental underlying principle does not require anything other than acknowledging that singularly remarkable fact. What would truly be remarkable, alternately, is that it wasn&#039;t at issue and yet always loosely appeared to be. What says Occamâ€™s Razor? Go with the simpler explanation. Fibonacci is a fit.

For the empirically driven, however, it must be admitted that it would be interesting to see someone take individual snapshots of, say, a thousand sunflowers and then use 3D Studio Max and maybe Wolfram Mathematica to work up a definitive average. My bet&#039;s on the obvious relation to phi.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely into the artfulness as well as the technical skill that went into this little production. Very cool visual experience and nice score as well.</p>
<p>As for the claims, the somewhat technical assertions that come in along the lines of &#8220;Well actually, according to &#8230;&#8221;, (and don&#8217;t we all have friend like that?), one might be mindful to exercise caution even with the cautious. No one proposes that there&#8217;s any singular example in all of nature that adheres utterly precisely to the Fibonacci sequence. However, the extent to which that model is so often and so closely approximated (plus OR minus) leaves one comfortably confident that on balance, yes, the series is a fit. So no, it&#8217;s not about scrutinizing over the seed patterns of a single sunflower (for example). It&#8217;s about accepting the fact that any sample flower you inspect would, yes, approximates Fibonacci. This alone is a remarkable thing. Extrapolating by inference that phi (Fibonacci) is the fundamental underlying principle does not require anything other than acknowledging that singularly remarkable fact. What would truly be remarkable, alternately, is that it wasn&#8217;t at issue and yet always loosely appeared to be. What says Occamâ€™s Razor? Go with the simpler explanation. Fibonacci is a fit.</p>
<p>For the empirically driven, however, it must be admitted that it would be interesting to see someone take individual snapshots of, say, a thousand sunflowers and then use 3D Studio Max and maybe Wolfram Mathematica to work up a definitive average. My bet&#8217;s on the obvious relation to phi.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/22/dreamlike-animation.html#comment-742063</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because they&#039;re perfect</description>
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		<title>By: VagabondAstronomer</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/22/dreamlike-animation.html#comment-742832</link>
		<dc:creator>VagabondAstronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This works equally well with Vangelis&#039; &quot;Alpha&quot;...</description>
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		<title>By: misterfricative</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/22/dreamlike-animation.html#comment-741814</link>
		<dc:creator>misterfricative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb!</description>
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