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		<title>By: LILemming</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-749315</link>
		<dc:creator>LILemming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As gastly as the impact of coal power is on the US (note that you can measure the deaths in Chernobyls/year) it sure beats the old way.

Energy plants need to be efficient, it&#039;s how they make profit.  They also contain at least some effort at reducing emissions.  Typical home stove were inefficient.  Kerosene (paraffin in the UK) lamps?  They _needed_ to be inefficient to make visible light (Aladdins and Colemans being a pricy exception)

How much energy went into distributing coal to houses and picking up the ash?

How dirty was urban life like in the coal furnace era?  How many houses burned when a kerosene lantern was knocked over or a gas lamp blew out?  

Ever used a Coleman clothes iron?

Nope, even for non-renewable distributed energy production is a big win economically and environmentally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As gastly as the impact of coal power is on the US (note that you can measure the deaths in Chernobyls/year) it sure beats the old way.</p>
<p>Energy plants need to be efficient, it&#8217;s how they make profit.  They also contain at least some effort at reducing emissions.  Typical home stove were inefficient.  Kerosene (paraffin in the UK) lamps?  They _needed_ to be inefficient to make visible light (Aladdins and Colemans being a pricy exception)</p>
<p>How much energy went into distributing coal to houses and picking up the ash?</p>
<p>How dirty was urban life like in the coal furnace era?  How many houses burned when a kerosene lantern was knocked over or a gas lamp blew out?  </p>
<p>Ever used a Coleman clothes iron?</p>
<p>Nope, even for non-renewable distributed energy production is a big win economically and environmentally.</p>
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		<title>By: arbitraryaardvark</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-749076</link>
		<dc:creator>arbitraryaardvark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tdawwg is right, Robert Caro&#039;s &quot;the sad irons&quot; tells this story really well. There&#039;s video on youtube of Caro talking about it. This link is to part one of his talk, the sad irons might be in part 5. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahlybc9HgiE&amp;feature=youtube_gdata
another caro link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPgGIm3XEHk&amp;feature=related.
maybe tomorrow i&#039;ll track down the right link for part 5.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tdawwg is right, Robert Caro&#8217;s &#8220;the sad irons&#8221; tells this story really well. There&#8217;s video on youtube of Caro talking about it. This link is to part one of his talk, the sad irons might be in part 5. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahlybc9HgiE&#038;feature=youtube_gdata" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahlybc9HgiE&#038;feature=youtube_gdata</a><br />
another caro link is <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPgGIm3XEHk&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPgGIm3XEHk&#038;feature=related</a>.<br />
maybe tomorrow i&#8217;ll track down the right link for part 5.</p>
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		<title>By: robulus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-749078</link>
		<dc:creator>robulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aside, the document is lovely. I particularly like the use of white ink, it provides a real lift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aside, the document is lovely. I particularly like the use of white ink, it provides a real lift.</p>
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		<title>By: jeligula</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748823</link>
		<dc:creator>jeligula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the house where meth is sold
The residents are young but seem so old
But lights here you will never see
As they didn&#039;t pay for their electricity
In the electrical house that Jack built</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the house where meth is sold<br />
The residents are young but seem so old<br />
But lights here you will never see<br />
As they didn&#8217;t pay for their electricity<br />
In the electrical house that Jack built</p>
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		<title>By: robulus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748830</link>
		<dc:creator>robulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny, I&#039;m looking around at semi-rural properties at the moment, and because of my work broadband internet connection is a necessity.

But much like the days in which they had to promote electricity, the country folk just don&#039;t seem to have realised how important it is! Many of them are persisting without it!

This is the house with fast internet,
That I really wish you&#039;d rush out and get.
I know you prefer outside to go,
But there&#039;s tons of porn, and no one need know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny, I&#8217;m looking around at semi-rural properties at the moment, and because of my work broadband internet connection is a necessity.</p>
<p>But much like the days in which they had to promote electricity, the country folk just don&#8217;t seem to have realised how important it is! Many of them are persisting without it!</p>
<p>This is the house with fast internet,<br />
That I really wish you&#8217;d rush out and get.<br />
I know you prefer outside to go,<br />
But there&#8217;s tons of porn, and no one need know.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the conservation bug went out in the 50s. You can see all kinds of ads touting the disposability of items as a great thing. Ads with dreams of the future were full of wear once and discard clothes and the like. Disposable everything was some sort of goal in the 50s, it seemed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the conservation bug went out in the 50s. You can see all kinds of ads touting the disposability of items as a great thing. Ads with dreams of the future were full of wear once and discard clothes and the like. Disposable everything was some sort of goal in the 50s, it seemed.</p>
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		<title>By: func</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748835</link>
		<dc:creator>func</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Electrical distribution was a good thing.  Still is, really.

There are parts of the USA now where it is now cheaper (and maybe more efficient) to generate your own power on your own property, but only if you keep your system tied into the power grid in order to take advantage of the fluctuations in power supply and demand.

Completely separating your house&#039;s power system from the grid is generally inefficient, and a waste of money and energy.

How that energy is generated in the first place is another question, but I&#039;ll bet however it&#039;s done now, it&#039;s cleaner than running a wood stove in your kitchen.  :)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Electrical distribution was a good thing.  Still is, really.</p>
<p>There are parts of the USA now where it is now cheaper (and maybe more efficient) to generate your own power on your own property, but only if you keep your system tied into the power grid in order to take advantage of the fluctuations in power supply and demand.</p>
<p>Completely separating your house&#8217;s power system from the grid is generally inefficient, and a waste of money and energy.</p>
<p>How that energy is generated in the first place is another question, but I&#8217;ll bet however it&#8217;s done now, it&#8217;s cleaner than running a wood stove in your kitchen.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Tdawwg</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748836</link>
		<dc:creator>Tdawwg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert A. Caro&#039;s chapter &quot;The Sad Irons&quot;--describing the electrification of rural Texas--in &lt;i&gt;The Path to Power&lt;/i&gt; (the first volume in his LBJ biography) is great on this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert A. Caro&#8217;s chapter &#8220;The Sad Irons&#8221;&#8211;describing the electrification of rural Texas&#8211;in <i>The Path to Power</i> (the first volume in his LBJ biography) is great on this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The really interesting thing to me is the cost. At the end of the pamphlet it says the average cost was 2.4 cents per kWh.  An online historical inflation calculator suggests that is about 47 cents in todays money. Yet, I&#039;m paying only about 11 cents per kWh today.. so electricity is actually much much cheaper now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The really interesting thing to me is the cost. At the end of the pamphlet it says the average cost was 2.4 cents per kWh.  An online historical inflation calculator suggests that is about 47 cents in todays money. Yet, I&#8217;m paying only about 11 cents per kWh today.. so electricity is actually much much cheaper now.</p>
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		<title>By: AuntBarb</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748844</link>
		<dc:creator>AuntBarb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can kind of imagine how people felt back in the day when electricity came.  I once spent several months with no electricity, central heat, or running water, and I haven&#039;t snapped a light on since then without thinking how wonderful it is.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can kind of imagine how people felt back in the day when electricity came.  I once spent several months with no electricity, central heat, or running water, and I haven&#8217;t snapped a light on since then without thinking how wonderful it is.  </p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Room Is Equipped With
&lt;b&gt;Edison Electric Light&lt;/b&gt;
Do not attempt to light with 
match.  Simply turn the key
on the wall by the door.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sennir/454608924/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Room Is Equipped With<br />
<b>Edison Electric Light</b><br />
Do not attempt to light with<br />
match.  Simply turn the key<br />
on the wall by the door.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/sennir/454608924/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/sennir/454608924/</a></p>
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		<title>By: NicoNicoNico</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748847</link>
		<dc:creator>NicoNicoNico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is sad how many people don&#039;t understand the benefits. I once had a 30-comment argument on Facebook with a guy who thought that the internet consisted entirely of Facebook, cute cat pictures, and porn (to be fair, he&#039;s also an anarchist, so he was against the FCC&#039;s broadband initiative because it is government control). People don&#039;t see the connection between the electrification of rural America and the spread of internet access to these same areas. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is sad how many people don&#8217;t understand the benefits. I once had a 30-comment argument on Facebook with a guy who thought that the internet consisted entirely of Facebook, cute cat pictures, and porn (to be fair, he&#8217;s also an anarchist, so he was against the FCC&#8217;s broadband initiative because it is government control). People don&#8217;t see the connection between the electrification of rural America and the spread of internet access to these same areas. </p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Koerth-Baker </title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748848</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Koerth-Baker </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely separating does waste money and energy, yes. But there&#039;s a lot to be said for distributed generation, when you&#039;re talking about renewables. 

The benefits of easy energy and our screwed-up relationship with it are kind of a paradox. Obviously, electricity is a good thing. Don&#039;t mean to imply that it isn&#039;t. But, at the same time, it&#039;s so easy that we forgot to pay attention to the downsides of the technology. The tech isn&#039;t bad, you just can&#039;t run around pretending that it&#039;s perfect. Does that make sense?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely separating does waste money and energy, yes. But there&#8217;s a lot to be said for distributed generation, when you&#8217;re talking about renewables. </p>
<p>The benefits of easy energy and our screwed-up relationship with it are kind of a paradox. Obviously, electricity is a good thing. Don&#8217;t mean to imply that it isn&#8217;t. But, at the same time, it&#8217;s so easy that we forgot to pay attention to the downsides of the technology. The tech isn&#8217;t bad, you just can&#8217;t run around pretending that it&#8217;s perfect. Does that make sense?  </p>
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		<title>By: ASIFA-Hollywood Animation Archive</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748849</link>
		<dc:creator>ASIFA-Hollywood Animation Archive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really is amazing how differently people think today. In the past, technology was thought of being in service to mankind. The future was a place where things were better. The fact is, comparing 1900 to 1950, even with a great depression and two World Wars inbetween, the world really *was* a better place for most people in America. Since the negativism of Nixon and the hippies, we have gone in the exact opposite direction... we *expect* things to continually get worse and worse. With that kind of bad attitude, it might end up being a dream come true for us too.

I&#039;m optimistic about optimism. I wish more people would join me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really is amazing how differently people think today. In the past, technology was thought of being in service to mankind. The future was a place where things were better. The fact is, comparing 1900 to 1950, even with a great depression and two World Wars inbetween, the world really *was* a better place for most people in America. Since the negativism of Nixon and the hippies, we have gone in the exact opposite direction&#8230; we *expect* things to continually get worse and worse. With that kind of bad attitude, it might end up being a dream come true for us too.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m optimistic about optimism. I wish more people would join me.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Koerth-Baker </title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748853</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie Koerth-Baker </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt: 

DO NOT TAUNT EDISON ELECTRIC HAPPY FUN LIGHT 
What a great reminder of when today&#039;s intuitive technology wasn&#039;t. :) 

ASIFA Animation Archive: 

I, too, am optimistic about optimism. So much so, that I may turn this into a T-shirt. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt: </p>
<p>DO NOT TAUNT EDISON ELECTRIC HAPPY FUN LIGHT<br />
What a great reminder of when today&#8217;s intuitive technology wasn&#8217;t. :) </p>
<p>ASIFA Animation Archive: </p>
<p>I, too, am optimistic about optimism. So much so, that I may turn this into a T-shirt. </p>
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		<title>By: zoink</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-749366</link>
		<dc:creator>zoink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great find.

Interestingly, even the Wisconsin Historical Society (who really should know better) asserts copyright on this 1916 document. (No permalink possible due to *shudder* frames, but click &quot;go&quot; next to &quot;document description.&quot;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great find.</p>
<p>Interestingly, even the Wisconsin Historical Society (who really should know better) asserts copyright on this 1916 document. (No permalink possible due to *shudder* frames, but click &#8220;go&#8221; next to &#8220;document description.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748861</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed: http://twitpic.com/1c9w1z</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed: <a href="http://twitpic.com/1c9w1z" rel="nofollow">http://twitpic.com/1c9w1z</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748871</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, humans have always been bonkers.  It just comes out more whenever we get a new toy to play with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, humans have always been bonkers.  It just comes out more whenever we get a new toy to play with.</p>
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		<title>By: folkclarinet</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748874</link>
		<dc:creator>folkclarinet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else craving the perfectly-decorated Arts &amp; Crafts Bungalow now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else craving the perfectly-decorated Arts &#038; Crafts Bungalow now?</p>
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		<title>By: jackie31337</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-749136</link>
		<dc:creator>jackie31337</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That, and a wood-burning cook stove. I actually looked at a house (built in the 1950s) for sale in my town in Finland where there was still only a wood-burning stove in the kitchen. I&#039;m not sure I could have lived with it on an every-day basis, but I do like the idea. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://lovelylisting.com/2009/06/01/youre-so-sadly-neglected-and-often-ignored/&quot;&gt;noose&lt;/a&gt; in the garage kind of put me off the idea of buying the place, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That, and a wood-burning cook stove. I actually looked at a house (built in the 1950s) for sale in my town in Finland where there was still only a wood-burning stove in the kitchen. I&#8217;m not sure I could have lived with it on an every-day basis, but I do like the idea. The <a href="http://lovelylisting.com/2009/06/01/youre-so-sadly-neglected-and-often-ignored/">noose</a> in the garage kind of put me off the idea of buying the place, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Beelzebuddy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748891</link>
		<dc:creator>Beelzebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Finally, I love the last couple pages that allude to the real conflict between man and nature.&lt;/i&gt;

The historical ignorance here is nothing short of appalling.  Compared to the misery and filth of the early 20th century, every Edenic promise that pamphlet made has absolutely come true without requiring a trace of irony.  You are more than welcome to turn up your greenie snoot at any aspect of modern society if you wish, but as you do so please take the time to frankly consider how far we&#039;ve come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Finally, I love the last couple pages that allude to the real conflict between man and nature.</i></p>
<p>The historical ignorance here is nothing short of appalling.  Compared to the misery and filth of the early 20th century, every Edenic promise that pamphlet made has absolutely come true without requiring a trace of irony.  You are more than welcome to turn up your greenie snoot at any aspect of modern society if you wish, but as you do so please take the time to frankly consider how far we&#8217;ve come.</p>
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		<title>By: blueelm</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748894</link>
		<dc:creator>blueelm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know why the lady of the house is referred to as &quot;she&quot; when sewing. Is there something about &quot;mom&quot; that we need to know!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know why the lady of the house is referred to as &#8220;she&#8221; when sewing. Is there something about &#8220;mom&#8221; that we need to know!?</p>
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		<title>By: Chupacabara</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-749670</link>
		<dc:creator>Chupacabara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really find the little mantra at the bottom of each page a bit amusing... &quot;Twitch the Switch&quot;.

Remind anyone else of the campaign to get people to wear seatbelts?      &quot;Click it, or Ticket&quot;

Somethings really don&#039;t change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really find the little mantra at the bottom of each page a bit amusing&#8230; &#8220;Twitch the Switch&#8221;.</p>
<p>Remind anyone else of the campaign to get people to wear seatbelts?      &#8220;Click it, or Ticket&#8221;</p>
<p>Somethings really don&#8217;t change.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A quick web search will reveal what has been claimed in several fictionalized accounts to be what drove many home electrification requests  ...

Electromechanical vibrators were first used in medicine in 1878 and were available as a consumer product by 1900. The vibrator was the 5th home appliance to be electrified. It was preceded by the sewing machine, fan, teakettle, and the toaster. It would be another ten years before the electric vacuum, iron, and frying pan became available as consumer products.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A quick web search will reveal what has been claimed in several fictionalized accounts to be what drove many home electrification requests  &#8230;</p>
<p>Electromechanical vibrators were first used in medicine in 1878 and were available as a consumer product by 1900. The vibrator was the 5th home appliance to be electrified. It was preceded by the sewing machine, fan, teakettle, and the toaster. It would be another ten years before the electric vacuum, iron, and frying pan became available as consumer products.</p>
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		<title>By: JayByrd</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-748912</link>
		<dc:creator>JayByrd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up with Reddy Kilowatt, but my parents were Depression-era folks and they were always on my case for leaving lights on. For them, electricity (and lots of other stuff) was not to be wasted. The conservation ethic was lost sometime in the 1960s.
In 1969, a representative of PP&amp;L (Pennsylvania Power &amp; Light) came to our school as part of their PR campaign to start building nukes. The spokesman said in the future we&#039;d all have little reactor boxes in our basements. I only remember that because I asked him if that was feasible, and all my classmates gave me crap about using the word &quot;feasible.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up with Reddy Kilowatt, but my parents were Depression-era folks and they were always on my case for leaving lights on. For them, electricity (and lots of other stuff) was not to be wasted. The conservation ethic was lost sometime in the 1960s.<br />
In 1969, a representative of PP&#038;L (Pennsylvania Power &#038; Light) came to our school as part of their PR campaign to start building nukes. The spokesman said in the future we&#8217;d all have little reactor boxes in our basements. I only remember that because I asked him if that was feasible, and all my classmates gave me crap about using the word &#8220;feasible.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: arikol</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-749173</link>
		<dc:creator>arikol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last sentences about going bonkers was, IMO, a great analysis. 


The dawn of a disconnect 
between cause and effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last sentences about going bonkers was, IMO, a great analysis. </p>
<p>The dawn of a disconnect<br />
between cause and effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Notary Sojac</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-749685</link>
		<dc:creator>Notary Sojac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I attribute most of the insane accumulation of debt over the last ten years to the fact that most of the generation who knew the Depression as adults were no longer part of our normal family life by the recent turn of the century.

My grandparents were a big influence on my life.  They turned off lights like crazy, never bought a car that wasn&#039;t at least three years old, and the biggest party they ever had for my parents and siblings was not a wedding, not a graduation...but the day my mom and dad burned their mortgage.

This upbringing has stood me in good stead while many of my friends and neighbors spent hundreds of thousands they didn&#039;t have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I attribute most of the insane accumulation of debt over the last ten years to the fact that most of the generation who knew the Depression as adults were no longer part of our normal family life by the recent turn of the century.</p>
<p>My grandparents were a big influence on my life.  They turned off lights like crazy, never bought a car that wasn&#8217;t at least three years old, and the biggest party they ever had for my parents and siblings was not a wedding, not a graduation&#8230;but the day my mom and dad burned their mortgage.</p>
<p>This upbringing has stood me in good stead while many of my friends and neighbors spent hundreds of thousands they didn&#8217;t have.</p>
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		<title>By: klobouk</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/03/31/1916-electric-utilit.html#comment-749186</link>
		<dc:creator>klobouk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Page 8 is awfully awkward.
&quot;The Light that&#039;s Right / Is restful, without glare, and bright, / Nor does it vitiate the air,&#8212; / Its healthful qualities impair / In the Electrical House that Jack Built.&quot;
With the whole comma-dash bit after &quot;air&quot; and the lack of a comma after impair I thought at first that they were trying to use impair as a positive. As in, the Light that&#039;s Right impairs the air and it becomes more healthful! Yay!
Realized that couldn&#039;t be right and hashed out that they were just repeating the thought before, but it still seems forced and weird. Am I wrong? Is I just not know grammar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Page 8 is awfully awkward.<br />
&#8220;The Light that&#8217;s Right / Is restful, without glare, and bright, / Nor does it vitiate the air,&mdash; / Its healthful qualities impair / In the Electrical House that Jack Built.&#8221;<br />
With the whole comma-dash bit after &#8220;air&#8221; and the lack of a comma after impair I thought at first that they were trying to use impair as a positive. As in, the Light that&#8217;s Right impairs the air and it becomes more healthful! Yay!<br />
Realized that couldn&#8217;t be right and hashed out that they were just repeating the thought before, but it still seems forced and weird. Am I wrong? Is I just not know grammar?</p>
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		<title>By: apoxia</title>
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		<dc:creator>apoxia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It occurred to me while reading the pamphlet that it may have been designed in order for women to implore their husbands to hook up their house to the grid. It sure looks like women were the largest beneficiaries in terms of electricity in the home. All the men do is sit around drinking coffee and eating toast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It occurred to me while reading the pamphlet that it may have been designed in order for women to implore their husbands to hook up their house to the grid. It sure looks like women were the largest beneficiaries in terms of electricity in the home. All the men do is sit around drinking coffee and eating toast!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite piece of pro-electrification propaganda comes from a couple of decades after the material written about above, but has the benefit of having a catchy tune.

Woody Guthrie was commissioned by the Bonneville Power Authority to write songs about the electrification of the Northwest.  &quot;Grand Coulee Dam&quot; is my favorite:  

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vLZOKshJPs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite piece of pro-electrification propaganda comes from a couple of decades after the material written about above, but has the benefit of having a catchy tune.</p>
<p>Woody Guthrie was commissioned by the Bonneville Power Authority to write songs about the electrification of the Northwest.  &#8220;Grand Coulee Dam&#8221; is my favorite:  </p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vLZOKshJPs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vLZOKshJPs</a></p>
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