Comments on: A 2.5 Year-Old Has A First Encounter with An iPad http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Thu, 23 May 2013 09:08:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754181 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754181 everyone is drooling over the magical revolutionary device that will shape the future of computing and entertainment for the non computer litterate but the only ones I see buying iPads are the complete opposite: tech savvy gadgeteers with smartphones, desktops, laptops already in house. When all laptops get a detachable, self reliant screen (like Lenovo's U1 or Always Innovating's TouchBook) these tablets will go the way of mp3 players and slowly disappear. everyone is drooling over the magical revolutionary device that will shape the future of computing and entertainment for the non computer litterate but the only ones I see buying iPads are the complete opposite: tech savvy gadgeteers with smartphones, desktops, laptops already in house.

When all laptops get a detachable, self reliant screen (like Lenovo’s U1 or Always Innovating’s TouchBook) these tablets will go the way of mp3 players and slowly disappear.

]]> By: robulus http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754696 robulus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754696 Ahh. Good thing you checked. You were quite unclear about the argument here. My argument is that my home is full of computers, my kid is naturally curious about them, and that prohibiting a little supervised access to them, because of some quite abstract notions of harm they might cause, is pointless and counter-productive. <blockquote>What is your fascination with my forbidden closet of mystery!</blockquote> Ahh. Good thing you checked. You were quite unclear about the argument here.

My argument is that my home is full of computers, my kid is naturally curious about them, and that prohibiting a little supervised access to them, because of some quite abstract notions of harm they might cause, is pointless and counter-productive.

What is your fascination with my forbidden closet of mystery!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754185 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754185 Commentor #29 and 50 gets it. I have a child and she will not get one of these since a blank sheet of paper and the people around her give enough to work with. Commentor #29 and 50 gets it.

I have a child and she will not get one of these since a blank sheet of paper and the people around her give enough to work with.

]]> By: memcf http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754704 memcf Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754704 @robulus, @Terry: Anon here has it right: it's not the tech, per se, it's what we do with it -- or, with children, what we teach them to do with it. You both seem to be involved parents, which is the important thing, and I'm sure your kids will turn out fine despite your well-meant disagreement over when they ought to be introduced to tech. @robulus, @Terry:

Anon here has it right: it’s not the tech, per se, it’s what we do with it — or, with children, what we teach them to do with it. You both seem to be involved parents, which is the important thing, and I’m sure your kids will turn out fine despite your well-meant disagreement over when they ought to be introduced to tech.

]]> By: Gilbert Wham http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754193 Gilbert Wham Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754193 <i>Oiled the cat</i>? Full story please. Immediately. Oiled the cat? Full story please. Immediately.

]]> By: AllisonWunderland http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-758289 AllisonWunderland Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-758289 Or you could watch a 99 yr old and her first encounter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndkIP7ec3O8 Or you could watch a 99 yr old and her first encounter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndkIP7ec3O8

]]> By: Terry http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-753938 Terry Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-753938 "The perfect rorschach test for liking or hating the iPad -- a UI so perfect and natural even a kid can use it / a UI so dumbed-down that even a kid can use it." I'd be much happier if my kid stepped over an iPad on his way to play in a puddle. “The perfect rorschach test for liking or hating the iPad — a UI so perfect and natural even a kid can use it / a UI so dumbed-down that even a kid can use it.”

I’d be much happier if my kid stepped over an iPad on his way to play in a puddle.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754195 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754195 This child is two. Not two point five, not two and a half, not 30 months. Two. She will continue to be two until she is three. That is all. This child is two. Not two point five, not two and a half, not 30 months. Two. She will continue to be two until she is three.

That is all.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-753940 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-753940 Might be worth it for Apple to actually watch this video and have toddlers test their products. You can see the very few but simple flaws. She couldn't open apps if her thumb was on the edge, had problems swiping between pages. This, I guess, also brings up the point that it might not be extremely natural given that she has used the iPhone. I'd be more interested in seeing how a child reacts to the interface for the first time. Might be worth it for Apple to actually watch this video and have toddlers test their products. You can see the very few but simple flaws. She couldn’t open apps if her thumb was on the edge, had problems swiping between pages. This, I guess, also brings up the point that it might not be extremely natural given that she has used the iPhone. I’d be more interested in seeing how a child reacts to the interface for the first time.

]]> By: Terry http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754452 Terry Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754452 I wonder if that little girl knew that a kitten was killed when that iPad was purchased. I wonder if that little girl knew that a kitten was killed when that iPad was purchased.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754453 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754453 What a lovely little girl. So clever and polite too. Well done, Todd Lappin. What a lovely little girl. So clever and polite too. Well done, Todd Lappin.

]]> By: lizjones http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-797718 lizjones Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-797718 Miss Lappin may be the most famous two year old iPad user on the Internet, but she’s far from the only one. The app she is playing with is called First Words: Animals - and you can find over a dozen videos on YouTube made by proud parents showing their young children learning to spell using FirstWords: Animals on iPhones, iPod Touches, and now iPads. Visit http://www.youtube.com/learningtouchapps. Miss Lappin may be the most famous two year old iPad user on the Internet, but she’s far from the only one. The app she is playing with is called First Words: Animals – and you can find over a dozen videos on YouTube made by proud parents showing their young children learning to spell using FirstWords: Animals on iPhones, iPod Touches, and now iPads. Visit http://www.youtube.com/learningtouchapps.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-937494 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-937494 That's too funny!!! And probably true! That’s too funny!!! And probably true!

]]> By: robulus http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754710 robulus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754710 Terry started it! Terry started it!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754456 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754456 no actually-- .5 years @ age 2 and age 3 make a huge difference in development. no actually– .5 years @ age 2 and age 3 make a huge difference in development.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-753946 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-753946 "a UI so dumbed-down that even a kid can use it" So what's that say about the adult that sees it and says "oooh, I could use that"? “a UI so dumbed-down that even a kid can use it”

So what’s that say about the adult that sees it and says “oooh, I could use that”?

]]> By: holtt http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754717 holtt Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754717 The TED presentation is actually by a kid. The TED presentation is actually by a kid.

]]> By: AllisonWunderland http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-758301 AllisonWunderland Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-758301 نخ -- "A book has a pretty dumbed down interface" Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . maybe, if you happen to be literate in that language . . . The book doesn't read itself. البكم الحصول على قوتهم. ليس لدي أي مشكلة على الإطلاق مع تطلب الشركة باعتباره معادلا للكتاب القرن 21st. كتاب يحتوي على واجهة جميلة الى اسفل. حتى لا مطرقة. الجحيم ، حتى لا سيارة. أجهزة الكمبيوتر وقتا أطول لمعرفة من مجرد عن أي أداة أخرى نستخدمها. هذا هو الشوائب ، وليس ميزة. وأنا أفهم بعضا من الكراهية ، ولكن يبدو أن شركة آبل قد خلقت وطعنة أولى جيدة في جعل معظم المعلومات في العالم في متناول الأطفال الصغار وكبار السن أيضا لمعرفة أوبونتو. موازنة من الضرر الذي ألحقه تأمين عليه ، ما زلت اعتقد أن تطلب الشركة هو ملعون جميلة مدهشة. إذا هي قدراته محدودة جدا بقواعد أبل ، وأنا متأكد من أن شخصا ما سوف يأتي على طول وتقديم أفضل المنتجات. الناس لا تزال حرة في أن تفعل ذلك. تماما مثل الروبوت أنتج أخيرا الهاتف التي تملأ دور جهاز الاتصالات العالمية افضل من اي فون. نخ

– “A book has a pretty dumbed down interface”

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . maybe, if you happen to be literate in that language . . . The book doesn’t read itself.

البكم الحصول على قوتهم. ليس لدي أي مشكلة على الإطلاق مع تطلب الشركة باعتباره معادلا للكتاب القرن 21st.

كتاب يحتوي على واجهة جميلة الى اسفل. حتى لا مطرقة. الجحيم ، حتى لا سيارة. أجهزة الكمبيوتر وقتا أطول لمعرفة من مجرد عن أي أداة أخرى نستخدمها. هذا هو الشوائب ، وليس ميزة.

وأنا أفهم بعضا من الكراهية ، ولكن يبدو أن شركة آبل قد خلقت وطعنة أولى جيدة في جعل معظم المعلومات في العالم في متناول الأطفال الصغار وكبار السن أيضا لمعرفة أوبونتو. موازنة من الضرر الذي ألحقه تأمين عليه ، ما زلت اعتقد أن تطلب الشركة هو ملعون جميلة مدهشة.

إذا هي قدراته محدودة جدا بقواعد أبل ، وأنا متأكد من أن شخصا ما سوف يأتي على طول وتقديم أفضل المنتجات. الناس لا تزال حرة في أن تفعل ذلك. تماما مثل الروبوت أنتج أخيرا الهاتف التي تملأ دور جهاز الاتصالات العالمية افضل من اي فون.

]]> By: vert http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754463 vert Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754463 IDK… I kind of love that she both recognized and got so excited by seeing Sutro Tower more than any other part of this video. IDK… I kind of love that she both recognized and got so excited by seeing Sutro Tower more than any other part of this video.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754466 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754466 Dude, please spare that child from too many screen hours, it doesn't help eye development or anything else. I know a kid who played pong and later Pac-man, so many hours a day and now, he is living under Las Vegas in the drainage system. Be careful with screens! Cute Kid! Dude, please spare that child from too many screen hours, it doesn’t help eye development or anything else.
I know a kid who played pong and later Pac-man, so many hours a day and now, he is living under Las Vegas in the drainage system. Be careful with screens!
Cute Kid!

]]> By: royaltrux http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-753956 royaltrux Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-753956 I'm one of the haters but dang, what if I had had one of these when I was 2+? It is interesting to think of all the wasted brain potential of modern human hominids who lived many years ago including the stone ages. To think that a baby born 10,000 years ago would be fully capable of understanding rocket science or flying a plane but simply lacked the education and technology fascinates me. But this makes me contemplate my wasted developmental potential. If only I had had edutainment and wikipedia on a portable device (or any device) instead of Gilligan's Island reruns when I was growing up...who would I be today? I’m one of the haters but dang, what if I had had one of these when I was 2+? It is interesting to think of all the wasted brain potential of modern human hominids who lived many years ago including the stone ages. To think that a baby born 10,000 years ago would be fully capable of understanding rocket science or flying a plane but simply lacked the education and technology fascinates me. But this makes me contemplate my wasted developmental potential. If only I had had edutainment and wikipedia on a portable device (or any device) instead of Gilligan’s Island reruns when I was growing up…who would I be today?

]]> By: Antinous / Moderator http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754212 Antinous / Moderator Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754212 Piffle. I was going to request more decimal places. Piffle. I was going to request more decimal places.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-753958 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-753958 if we already know that the kid has experience with the iPhone, what's so impressive about her instant grasp of the iPad's UI? if anything, it's a triumph for the design of its predecessor if we already know that the kid has experience with the iPhone, what’s so impressive about her instant grasp of the iPad’s UI? if anything, it’s a triumph for the design of its predecessor

]]> By: AnthonyC http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-753959 AnthonyC Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-753959 I have no problems with an intuitive, well-formed high-level UI- I think that's great- but I *also* want to be able to peel that away if I choose to. To dissect and rearrange as needed. Heck, even just to troubleshoot on my own. I have no problems with an intuitive, well-formed high-level UI- I think that’s great- but I *also* want to be able to peel that away if I choose to. To dissect and rearrange as needed. Heck, even just to troubleshoot on my own.

]]> By: cymk http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-753960 cymk Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-753960 A kid taking an instant understanding of an iPad/iPhone interface is no surprise; kids point and touch, its natural to them. Hypothetically, if I had kids, and if I could afford an iPad, I wouldn't let them play with solely because I wouldn't want them doing exactly what the girl in the video did; jam their stubby digits straight into the screen until it reacted to the touch. Just imagine the pinwheel popping up and the touch screen not responding for a few minutes, and with each passing second your kid his the screen harder and harder trying to make it work. A kid taking an instant understanding of an iPad/iPhone interface is no surprise; kids point and touch, its natural to them. Hypothetically, if I had kids, and if I could afford an iPad, I wouldn’t let them play with solely because I wouldn’t want them doing exactly what the girl in the video did; jam their stubby digits straight into the screen until it reacted to the touch. Just imagine the pinwheel popping up and the touch screen not responding for a few minutes, and with each passing second your kid his the screen harder and harder trying to make it work.

]]> By: royaltrux http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-753961 royaltrux Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-753961 Has a nice parallel with Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age. Has a nice parallel with Neal Stephenson’s The Diamond Age.

]]> By: Brainspore http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-753964 Brainspore Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-753964 <em>"Hey, kid! Stop enjoying that thing!"</em> -Cory “Hey, kid! Stop enjoying that thing!” -Cory

]]> By: apoxia http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754220 apoxia Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754220 Anon, at this stage of a child's life a month or two can mean big developmental change - the best example I can think of would be in language development. Hence why the age of children this young are still often described as months. Also, for many children, the quarter or the half added to their age means a lot personally for them. Why so harsh on the age? I suspect you don't have kids?? Anon, at this stage of a child’s life a month or two can mean big developmental change – the best example I can think of would be in language development. Hence why the age of children this young are still often described as months. Also, for many children, the quarter or the half added to their age means a lot personally for them.

Why so harsh on the age? I suspect you don’t have kids??

]]> By: Terry http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-754732 Terry Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-754732 "Terry started it!" Actually, Terry made a simple statement about his personal preferences as a parent. “Terry started it!”

Actually, Terry made a simple statement about his personal preferences as a parent.

]]> By: KremlinLaptop http://boingboing.net/2010/04/06/a-25-year-old-has-a.html#comment-753965 KremlinLaptop Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-753965 Dear lord, that's amazing and somehow amazingly wonderful. I'm firmly in the camp of thinking the iPad is overpriced and useless; but I have absolutely nothing bad to say about this video. I'd really like to see where this kid is and what her opinions on technology are twenty years from now. God, I'll be even more of a crusty old curmudgeon by then. Dear lord, that’s amazing and somehow amazingly wonderful. I’m firmly in the camp of thinking the iPad is overpriced and useless; but I have absolutely nothing bad to say about this video.

I’d really like to see where this kid is and what her opinions on technology are twenty years from now. God, I’ll be even more of a crusty old curmudgeon by then.

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