Comments on: Earliest known Led Zeppelin recording http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html Brain candy for Happy Mutants Sun, 19 May 2013 18:41:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: IWood http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755972 IWood Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755972 Related: I just got the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Led_Zeppelin_%28DVD%29">Led Zeppelin 2-DVD set</a> that was released in 2003, and have had it playing almost nonstop for two days (while I'm actually at home, of course). If you're a fan and haven't seen it--go forth, get it, it's fantastic. Five hours of live concert sets, from the Royal Albert Hall in 1970 to the Knebworth Festival in 1979. Skillfully remastered: sounds great, looks even better. Plus some assorted extra goodies, which is what this post's clip reminds me of. The best thing about it, conceptually, is that when you put the first DVD in, it just starts: backstage, then out onstage into the first chords of We're Gonna Groove. No menu, no title, nothing. Feels very You Are There, 'specially if you've got a big TV. Anyway, that's my LedZep plug. Related: I just got the Led Zeppelin 2-DVD set that was released in 2003, and have had it playing almost nonstop for two days (while I’m actually at home, of course).

If you’re a fan and haven’t seen it–go forth, get it, it’s fantastic. Five hours of live concert sets, from the Royal Albert Hall in 1970 to the Knebworth Festival in 1979. Skillfully remastered: sounds great, looks even better. Plus some assorted extra goodies, which is what this post’s clip reminds me of.

The best thing about it, conceptually, is that when you put the first DVD in, it just starts: backstage, then out onstage into the first chords of We’re Gonna Groove. No menu, no title, nothing. Feels very You Are There, ‘specially if you’ve got a big TV.

Anyway, that’s my LedZep plug.

]]> By: HighVis http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755717 HighVis Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755717 Err, no. Read the paragraph again. The concert was recorded three weeks before the album came out. Err, no. Read the paragraph again. The concert was recorded three weeks before the album came out.

]]> By: jaytkay http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755485 jaytkay Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755485 Orly? The band's <i>Led Zeppelin</i> album was recorded <b>less than three weeks</b> before its release?! Orly? The band’s Led Zeppelin album was recorded less than three weeks before its release?!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-756521 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-756521 They may have been well known at the time because of Jimmy Page, but they were known by many as the New Yardbirds. The name Led Zeppelin didn't catch on right away which makes sense of why their name was spelled funny. They may have been well known at the time because of Jimmy Page, but they were known by many as the New Yardbirds. The name Led Zeppelin didn’t catch on right away which makes sense of why their name was spelled funny.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-759339 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-759339 saw the group in memphis, Tenn I believe in 1969 after I and II....anybody there? saw the group in memphis, Tenn I believe in 1969 after I and II….anybody there?

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-756525 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-756525 The reason there are no drum mikes in the picture is simply because John Bonham didn't need them. He played so loud the sound filled the whole venue. It wasn't until they started playing in stadiums that he used mikes. He didn't think he needed them but their manager Peter Grant assured him he needed them to fill a whole stadium. The reason there are no drum mikes in the picture is simply because John Bonham didn’t need them. He played so loud the sound filled the whole venue. It wasn’t until they started playing in stadiums that he used mikes. He didn’t think he needed them but their manager Peter Grant assured him he needed them to fill a whole stadium.

]]> By: littlebone http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755502 littlebone Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755502 I actually have Jake Holmes vinyl album with his original version, presented here for your enjoyment. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsvs-pAGDc I actually have Jake Holmes vinyl album with his original version, presented here for your enjoyment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTsvs-pAGDc

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755761 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755761 Live recording? I don't buy it. The sound is too good, no bum notes, extraordinarily well mixed and it's in stereo with really good separation. Couldn't be done live in '68 (hard enough even today) Listen to Bonham's drums at the opening, you can't get that sound out of a live show even today and taking it direct from the desk. And if you look at the photos from the show (pointed out by igpago #15) you'll see there are no drum mikes - even Page isn't that good an engineer to get this sound out of the sort of thing that must have been on the tape. Quite a bit of "post production work" in this one I think. Live recording? I don’t buy it. The sound is too good, no bum notes, extraordinarily well mixed and it’s in stereo with really good separation. Couldn’t be done live in ’68 (hard enough even today)

Listen to Bonham’s drums at the opening, you can’t get that sound out of a live show even today and taking it direct from the desk.

And if you look at the photos from the show (pointed out by igpago #15) you’ll see there are no drum mikes – even Page isn’t that good an engineer to get this sound out of the sort of thing that must have been on the tape.

Quite a bit of “post production work” in this one I think.

]]> By: kaffeen http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755508 kaffeen Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755508 Fantastic...good stuff...just reminds me what a special time in music those years were. Fantastic…good stuff…just reminds me what a special time in music those years were.

]]> By: Phikus http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755517 Phikus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755517 Great garage band. Maybe they'll make something of themselves some day... Great garage band. Maybe they’ll make something of themselves some day…

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755778 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755778 Isn't the album a recording? The album had to be recorded more than 3 weeks before this show so the album would then be the earliest recording known. I think what is meant is that this is the earliest known LIVE recording. Isn’t the album a recording? The album had to be recorded more than 3 weeks before this show so the album would then be the earliest recording known. I think what is meant is that this is the earliest known LIVE recording.

]]> By: jimh http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755529 jimh Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755529 Too bad it cuts out before we get to hear the crowd reaction. Too bad it cuts out before we get to hear the crowd reaction.

]]> By: ill lich http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755541 ill lich Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755541 I knew someone would chime in with the Jake Holmes track (Page apparently lifted it from Holmes after the Yardbirds shared a gig with him)-- it's kind of annoying how many of Led Zeppelin's tunes were lifted outright from other performers: "Black Mountain Side" from Bert Jansch, "Bring it On Home" from Sonny Boy Wiliamson, several songs from Willie Dixon (3 of which they were sued over), at least one song from Blind Willie Johnson, "Babe I'm Gonna Leave You" and several others were traditional songs they decided to take credit for. . . . I'm not complaining-- I love their versions of these tunes, and "Dazed and Confused" might be the best of the bunch. I knew someone would chime in with the Jake Holmes track (Page apparently lifted it from Holmes after the Yardbirds shared a gig with him)– it’s kind of annoying how many of Led Zeppelin’s tunes were lifted outright from other performers: “Black Mountain Side” from Bert Jansch, “Bring it On Home” from Sonny Boy Wiliamson, several songs from Willie Dixon (3 of which they were sued over), at least one song from Blind Willie Johnson, “Babe I’m Gonna Leave You” and several others were traditional songs they decided to take credit for. . . .

I’m not complaining– I love their versions of these tunes, and “Dazed and Confused” might be the best of the bunch.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755562 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755562 This is 3 weeks before the album was released. This is a live show, NOT a recording of said album. This is 3 weeks before the album was released. This is a live show, NOT a recording of said album.

]]> By: xzzy http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755837 xzzy Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755837 The distortion is pretty terrible, I hate when people record concerts with their cell phones. The distortion is pretty terrible, I hate when people record concerts with their cell phones.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755585 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755585 Amazing - begged, stolen or borrowed - Still amazing Amazing – begged, stolen or borrowed – Still amazing

]]> By: Phikus http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755591 Phikus Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755591 It's Nobody's Fault But Theirs (Don't forget the Staple Singers) It’s Nobody’s Fault But Theirs

(Don’t forget the Staple Singers)

]]> By: ToddBradley http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755597 ToddBradley Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755597 The headline is misleading (or flat out wrong, depending on how you look at it). It should read "Earliest known live Led Zeppelin recording." With the album coming out in 3 weeks, the tracks must have been already recorded and mixed by this time. The headline is misleading (or flat out wrong, depending on how you look at it). It should read “Earliest known live Led Zeppelin recording.” With the album coming out in 3 weeks, the tracks must have been already recorded and mixed by this time.

]]> By: littlebone http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755598 littlebone Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755598 "Chiming" in again. I had not intended to disparage the Zep version of "Dazed and Confused" which I really like, too. I just wanted to offer Jake Holmes original version. It's good in its own right. “Chiming” in again.

I had not intended to disparage the Zep version of “Dazed and Confused” which I really like, too. I just wanted to offer Jake Holmes original version. It’s good in its own right.

]]> By: ill lich http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-757402 ill lich Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-757402 Good to see the photos show Page playing his Telecaster-- most folks associate him with the Les Paul because that's what he used live all through the 70's, but most of the studio albums were recorded with a Telecaster. Count me among those who feel the Tele is the most ideal electric guitar ever made (although even I have a problem with the original 3-saddle bridges and their intonation problems.) Good to see the photos show Page playing his Telecaster– most folks associate him with the Les Paul because that’s what he used live all through the 70′s, but most of the studio albums were recorded with a Telecaster. Count me among those who feel the Tele is the most ideal electric guitar ever made (although even I have a problem with the original 3-saddle bridges and their intonation problems.)

]]> By: pinch http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755883 pinch Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755883 Wasn't Page Jeff Beck's successor? In fact, I believe Beck and Page were both in the Yardbirds at the same time for about five minutes. Wasn’t Page Jeff Beck’s successor? In fact, I believe Beck and Page were both in the Yardbirds at the same time for about five minutes.

]]> By: erindipity http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755628 erindipity Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755628 'Led Zefflin' Thank you! ‘Led Zefflin’
Thank you!

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755632 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755632 Led Zepplin was hardly an obscure band - Page, as Clapton's sucessor in the Yardbirds, was even then one of the better know quitar players in the world. He was famous enough that Keith Moon and John Entwhistle seriously considered forming a super-group with him. Led Zepplin was hardly an obscure band – Page, as Clapton’s sucessor in the Yardbirds, was even then one of the better know quitar players in the world. He was famous enough that Keith Moon and John Entwhistle seriously considered forming a super-group with him.

]]> By: Felton http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755633 Felton Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755633 I think they'll go over like a heavy metal airship. I think they’ll go over like a heavy metal airship.

]]> By: igpajo http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755644 igpajo Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755644 Check out the photo gallery at LedZeppelin.com for 4 photos from this show. http://www.ledzeppelin.com/image-galleries/led-zeppelin/1968-1969 Check out the photo gallery at LedZeppelin.com for 4 photos from this show.
http://www.ledzeppelin.com/image-galleries/led-zeppelin/1968-1969

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-756413 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-756413 <blockquote>They didn't have cell phones in 1968. </blockquote> Whoosh!

They didn’t have cell phones in 1968.

Whoosh!

]]> By: Boldt http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755647 Boldt Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755647 The first time Plant, Page, Bonzo, and John Paul Jones recorded together (as The New Yardbirds) was as the backing band for P.J. Proby on his song "Jim's Blues". I've heard the album featuring that song is to be reissued on LP soon. The first time Plant, Page, Bonzo, and John Paul Jones recorded together (as The New Yardbirds) was as the backing band for P.J. Proby on his song “Jim’s Blues”. I’ve heard the album featuring that song is to be reissued on LP soon.

]]> By: fyodordos http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-755906 fyodordos Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-755906 The live shows get much better after the Fillmore West shows in January 1969........8/31/69 at the Texas International Pop Festival is incredible. The live shows get much better after the Fillmore West shows in January 1969……..8/31/69 at the Texas International Pop Festival is incredible.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-756171 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-756171 They didn't have cell phones in 1968. They didn’t have cell phones in 1968.

]]> By: Anonymous http://boingboing.net/2010/04/07/earliest-known-led-z.html#comment-756181 Anonymous Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 #comment-756181 I was less than a year old. If only my parents had taken me as an infant to this show I could've seen Led Zeppelin live. I was less than a year old. If only my parents had taken me as an infant to this show I could’ve seen Led Zeppelin live.

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