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	<title>Comments on: &quot;Keep Pot Illegal!&quot;  say Humboldt County dope&#160;farmers</title>
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		<title>By: Borderhacker</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-758272</link>
		<dc:creator>Borderhacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are numerous specialty varieties of pot that bring premium prices to small growers because of their unique quality.  Large corporate farms would churn out tons of generic pot that would range in quality from adequate to mediocre.  I think there would always be a market for high quality boutique labels to produce the coveted varieties that demand higher prices even now.  To put it in concrete terms, yes, Tenneco would flood the market with tons of Humboldt Headband at dirt cheap prices, but connoisseurs would still pay gourmet prices for organic Purple Haze sustainably grown by a small tribe of hippies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are numerous specialty varieties of pot that bring premium prices to small growers because of their unique quality.  Large corporate farms would churn out tons of generic pot that would range in quality from adequate to mediocre.  I think there would always be a market for high quality boutique labels to produce the coveted varieties that demand higher prices even now.  To put it in concrete terms, yes, Tenneco would flood the market with tons of Humboldt Headband at dirt cheap prices, but connoisseurs would still pay gourmet prices for organic Purple Haze sustainably grown by a small tribe of hippies.</p>
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		<title>By: SamSam</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757506</link>
		<dc:creator>SamSam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;i would encourage all pot smokers to continue doing business with whoever you do it with now if that indeed turns out to be the case. keep it clandestine. keep it tax free.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...keep doing business as it&#039;s being done now, no matter where it&#039;s coming from or how it got there? Call me straight-laced, but I&#039;d me much happier knowing that my pot was coming from some legal local farm than somewhere in Afghanistan or Columbia (two of the top-producing countries), and then smuggled into the country by god-knows-what means.

If you live and California and live next-door to your semi-legal growers, then maybe it&#039;s different. Then again, if you live in California you&#039;ve ruined you state&#039;s finances so completely totally that I think you should be happy to pay some extra taxes to your state.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>i would encourage all pot smokers to continue doing business with whoever you do it with now if that indeed turns out to be the case. keep it clandestine. keep it tax free.</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;keep doing business as it&#8217;s being done now, no matter where it&#8217;s coming from or how it got there? Call me straight-laced, but I&#8217;d me much happier knowing that my pot was coming from some legal local farm than somewhere in Afghanistan or Columbia (two of the top-producing countries), and then smuggled into the country by god-knows-what means.</p>
<p>If you live and California and live next-door to your semi-legal growers, then maybe it&#8217;s different. Then again, if you live in California you&#8217;ve ruined you state&#8217;s finances so completely totally that I think you should be happy to pay some extra taxes to your state.</p>
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		<title>By: Jebediah</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-758018</link>
		<dc:creator>Jebediah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a story on the general topic:
http://www.miller-mccune.com/business-economics/marijuana-dark-horse-savior-of-california-agriculture-11863/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a story on the general topic:<br />
<a href="http://www.miller-mccune.com/business-economics/marijuana-dark-horse-savior-of-california-agriculture-11863/" rel="nofollow">http://www.miller-mccune.com/business-economics/marijuana-dark-horse-savior-of-california-agriculture-11863/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-758019</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good dope is grown from clones.  Seeds are useless.</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-759308</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the jail system, keeping it in a black market will put pot users with real criminals. I think it should be legal and taxed. Pot farmers in NorCal will just have to be legal also, they will still make money in dispensaries due to various illness&#039;s and wants from the patient. They might loose $500-$1000 on each pound and if thats the case its just comes down to greedy farmers. Yeah the pot farmers now are making more money without it legal, but the risk factor involved such as middle of the night runs to Chico to avoid the authorities entails a lot risk, plus the crime rate has grown around the area, maybe due to tweek and the overly popularized area due to movies and TV shows could be a factor, who knows. I enjoy going to a clinic to choose my medication, I dont have to deal with sketchy street peddlers trying to make a buck. Out here there is a cap for eights to be sold no higher than $55 for their top grade medication. I am all for that. No more parking lots, random houses and janky characters to deal with.

If a monopoly happens, and it will. I like to use the Major breweries to Microbreweries. Stone IPA is a perfect example, I love that IPA due to its quality. If major breweries kept up with quality and not quantity, I would buy it from them, but they dont, so i wont. The majority might support Buttwiper, I never will.

Bottom-line NorCal farmers are getting greedy if they dont support this. The dispensaries will buy their product. This allows their product to be out there for more people to try, unlike a taco truck that comes around only to certain areas. I see NorCal medication in SoCal all the time. 

Its now widespread.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the jail system, keeping it in a black market will put pot users with real criminals. I think it should be legal and taxed. Pot farmers in NorCal will just have to be legal also, they will still make money in dispensaries due to various illness&#8217;s and wants from the patient. They might loose $500-$1000 on each pound and if thats the case its just comes down to greedy farmers. Yeah the pot farmers now are making more money without it legal, but the risk factor involved such as middle of the night runs to Chico to avoid the authorities entails a lot risk, plus the crime rate has grown around the area, maybe due to tweek and the overly popularized area due to movies and TV shows could be a factor, who knows. I enjoy going to a clinic to choose my medication, I dont have to deal with sketchy street peddlers trying to make a buck. Out here there is a cap for eights to be sold no higher than $55 for their top grade medication. I am all for that. No more parking lots, random houses and janky characters to deal with.</p>
<p>If a monopoly happens, and it will. I like to use the Major breweries to Microbreweries. Stone IPA is a perfect example, I love that IPA due to its quality. If major breweries kept up with quality and not quantity, I would buy it from them, but they dont, so i wont. The majority might support Buttwiper, I never will.</p>
<p>Bottom-line NorCal farmers are getting greedy if they dont support this. The dispensaries will buy their product. This allows their product to be out there for more people to try, unlike a taco truck that comes around only to certain areas. I see NorCal medication in SoCal all the time. </p>
<p>Its now widespread.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-758033</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reverse psychology?</description>
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		<title>By: gATO</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757523</link>
		<dc:creator>gATO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it will be similar to the wine market, where you have the mass producers and the niche and small winemakers, both taxed.</description>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-759315</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s drop the abstract here for the moment- I just gave two &lt;em&gt;extremely&lt;/em&gt; relevant real-world examples of how legalization of a previously contraband product led to more consumer choices than what had been available on the black market alone. Do you have any real-world examples of the opposite?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s drop the abstract here for the moment- I just gave two <em>extremely</em> relevant real-world examples of how legalization of a previously contraband product led to more consumer choices than what had been available on the black market alone. Do you have any real-world examples of the opposite?</p>
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		<title>By: robulus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-759317</link>
		<dc:creator>robulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You MUST be trolling.</description>
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		<title>By: nutbastard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757526</link>
		<dc:creator>nutbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Call me straight-laced, but I&#039;d me much happier knowing that my pot was coming from some legal local farm than somewhere in Afghanistan or Columbia&quot;

IIRC only something like 10% of all marijuana in the US is imported. The reason is that importing large amounts is difficult, and the quality you get from, say, South America is much lower than what&#039;s made right here at home.

&quot;Then again, if you live in California you&#039;ve ruined you state&#039;s finances so completely totally that I think you should be happy to pay some extra taxes to your state.&quot;

I&#039;VE ruined nothing - I vote no to every single initiative that will cost the state even one measly dollar. My neighbors and the effete assholes in charge bankrupted my state.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Call me straight-laced, but I&#8217;d me much happier knowing that my pot was coming from some legal local farm than somewhere in Afghanistan or Columbia&#8221;</p>
<p>IIRC only something like 10% of all marijuana in the US is imported. The reason is that importing large amounts is difficult, and the quality you get from, say, South America is much lower than what&#8217;s made right here at home.</p>
<p>&#8220;Then again, if you live in California you&#8217;ve ruined you state&#8217;s finances so completely totally that I think you should be happy to pay some extra taxes to your state.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;VE ruined nothing &#8211; I vote no to every single initiative that will cost the state even one measly dollar. My neighbors and the effete assholes in charge bankrupted my state.</p>
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		<title>By: Aloisius</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757782</link>
		<dc:creator>Aloisius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, but producing alcohol is hazardous (if distilling) and time consuming. It requires special equipment (a bottleneck that makes it relatively easy to control) and the initial investment is rather large. Furthermore, the ubiquity of legitimate alcohol vendors makes doing so rather unprofitable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Modern distilling is hardly hazardous if you take some basic precautions (you don&#039;t need open flames anymore and ventilation isn&#039;t a big deal), the equipment can be built easily and the initial investment in an unregulated market where you&#039;re producing the small volumes of liquor comparable to a small pot grower is relatively small.

Heck, you can distill using nothing more than a freezer and some homebrew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yes, but producing alcohol is hazardous (if distilling) and time consuming. It requires special equipment (a bottleneck that makes it relatively easy to control) and the initial investment is rather large. Furthermore, the ubiquity of legitimate alcohol vendors makes doing so rather unprofitable.</p></blockquote>
<p>Modern distilling is hardly hazardous if you take some basic precautions (you don&#8217;t need open flames anymore and ventilation isn&#8217;t a big deal), the equipment can be built easily and the initial investment in an unregulated market where you&#8217;re producing the small volumes of liquor comparable to a small pot grower is relatively small.</p>
<p>Heck, you can distill using nothing more than a freezer and some homebrew.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-758038</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œKeep Pot Illegalâ€ bumper stickers
that&#039;s not true...I live in Humboldt and work every day in Garberville the center of pot country...and I have never seen a bumper sticker with that on it....lets see a photo..I think this is made up..
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œKeep Pot Illegalâ€ bumper stickers<br />
that&#8217;s not true&#8230;I live in Humboldt and work every day in Garberville the center of pot country&#8230;and I have never seen a bumper sticker with that on it&#8230;.lets see a photo..I think this is made up..</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-758041</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen anyone in Humboldt County with those stickers. Maybe they just aren&#039;t in my area. But I think I should point out a few things.
In some areas in Humboldt, you can legally grow something like 99 plants in your house without worry about the police knocking at your door. That&#039;s why there is a big problem with the power grids around here. It all goes to pot growing. :)
Also I don&#039;t think wineries and restaurants would do very well where I am. Most of the people are students and we are far too poor for fancy food. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen anyone in Humboldt County with those stickers. Maybe they just aren&#8217;t in my area. But I think I should point out a few things.<br />
In some areas in Humboldt, you can legally grow something like 99 plants in your house without worry about the police knocking at your door. That&#8217;s why there is a big problem with the power grids around here. It all goes to pot growing. :)<br />
Also I don&#8217;t think wineries and restaurants would do very well where I am. Most of the people are students and we are far too poor for fancy food. :P</p>
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		<title>By: Yamara</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757790</link>
		<dc:creator>Yamara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;T E M P E R A N C E !&lt;/b&gt;

...

My trademark lawyer 20-odd years ago told me the tobacco industry has registered trademarks for pot brands all ready to go for the moment pot became legal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>T E M P E R A N C E !</b></p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>My trademark lawyer 20-odd years ago told me the tobacco industry has registered trademarks for pot brands all ready to go for the moment pot became legal.</p>
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		<title>By: mermaid</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-758046</link>
		<dc:creator>mermaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turns out pot is a gateway drug: these people have become addicted to money. </description>
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		<title>By: Nytespryte</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757536</link>
		<dc:creator>Nytespryte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well yes, and I&#039;ve only ever dealt with nice young college students supplementing their income in that area, but you can&#039;t really have it both ways.

If you want it to be illegal you are asking your customer base to risk jail for you.

Decriminalization can be an in between but when I lived in Vancouver is still bother me on some level that the cops could start handing out fines again.  I could live with that though but the situation in the states in intolerable.

I also would not want to buy from Phillip Morris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well yes, and I&#8217;ve only ever dealt with nice young college students supplementing their income in that area, but you can&#8217;t really have it both ways.</p>
<p>If you want it to be illegal you are asking your customer base to risk jail for you.</p>
<p>Decriminalization can be an in between but when I lived in Vancouver is still bother me on some level that the cops could start handing out fines again.  I could live with that though but the situation in the states in intolerable.</p>
<p>I also would not want to buy from Phillip Morris.</p>
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		<title>By: dw_funk</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757795</link>
		<dc:creator>dw_funk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have these growers considered that, if and when pot is legalized, they will be a legitimate business with every reason to organize together in order to lobby the government to keep tobacco companies out of the weed business? It&#039;s just the wrong time entirely for growers to get worried about big business. As long as it&#039;s nationally illegal, as it will be for years to come, it will be impossible for national businesses to risk investing any serious money in growing weed. Local food has become huge, and I imagine there&#039;s encouraging hippie overlap in the demographics of marijuana users and local food types. There are tons of great business models, as many posters above have mentioned, like the wine industry and microbreweries. 

As for those consumers who are concerned about prices, taxes take place at the point of sale. Since there are so many legitimate uses for the equipment used to grow marijuana, it&#039;s unlikely they&#039;ll be able to start taxing potting soil. If I were an enterprising marijuana businessman, I&#039;d be looking into what will inevitably be a lucrative market in selling supplies and plants to home growers, with a knowledgeable staff there to help you figure out the best way to get a crop of Northern Lights in before 4/20/2011. 

Seriously, there are so many good reasons to legalize, and so few good reasons for it to remain illegal. These Humboldt County farmers are borrowing trouble from a probably-still-distant future in which national laws have changed. Their business model isn&#039;t in trouble; pot smokers will largely be too lazy to grow their own (it&#039;s easy to grow vegetables too, but most people prefer the grocery store) but informed enough to buy from their local farmers. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have these growers considered that, if and when pot is legalized, they will be a legitimate business with every reason to organize together in order to lobby the government to keep tobacco companies out of the weed business? It&#8217;s just the wrong time entirely for growers to get worried about big business. As long as it&#8217;s nationally illegal, as it will be for years to come, it will be impossible for national businesses to risk investing any serious money in growing weed. Local food has become huge, and I imagine there&#8217;s encouraging hippie overlap in the demographics of marijuana users and local food types. There are tons of great business models, as many posters above have mentioned, like the wine industry and microbreweries. </p>
<p>As for those consumers who are concerned about prices, taxes take place at the point of sale. Since there are so many legitimate uses for the equipment used to grow marijuana, it&#8217;s unlikely they&#8217;ll be able to start taxing potting soil. If I were an enterprising marijuana businessman, I&#8217;d be looking into what will inevitably be a lucrative market in selling supplies and plants to home growers, with a knowledgeable staff there to help you figure out the best way to get a crop of Northern Lights in before 4/20/2011. </p>
<p>Seriously, there are so many good reasons to legalize, and so few good reasons for it to remain illegal. These Humboldt County farmers are borrowing trouble from a probably-still-distant future in which national laws have changed. Their business model isn&#8217;t in trouble; pot smokers will largely be too lazy to grow their own (it&#8217;s easy to grow vegetables too, but most people prefer the grocery store) but informed enough to buy from their local farmers. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>daamnn!
&quot;drooling&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>daamnn!<br />
&#8220;drooling&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: billclonton</title>
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		<dc:creator>billclonton</dc:creator>
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		<description>The best growers are definitely small scale &quot;boutique farmers&quot; who learned horticulture because they wanted to stop paying for their own medicinal needs; aka &quot;stoners&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best growers are definitely small scale &#8220;boutique farmers&#8221; who learned horticulture because they wanted to stop paying for their own medicinal needs; aka &#8220;stoners&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Moriarty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moriarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why THEY want it to stay illegal is clear enough, but what argument do they have to make to someone who isn&#039;t currently selling it illegally?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why THEY want it to stay illegal is clear enough, but what argument do they have to make to someone who isn&#8217;t currently selling it illegally?</p>
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		<title>By: Ugly Canuck</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757804</link>
		<dc:creator>Ugly Canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man hat&#039;s a funny headline...have not laughed so hard since my weedy college daze...

Legalize this stuff top to bottom: it&#039;s harmless, and a waste of time to worry about.
And let the cops the preachers and the profit-driven hempsters wail: for wail they will.

Regulation drives up the price, and erects barriers to the entry of new participants in the Markets, and keeps prices higher than they would naturally be:
IMO Prohibition is like &quot;high-proof&quot; Regulation.
And as staggering to the body (politic).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man hat&#8217;s a funny headline&#8230;have not laughed so hard since my weedy college daze&#8230;</p>
<p>Legalize this stuff top to bottom: it&#8217;s harmless, and a waste of time to worry about.<br />
And let the cops the preachers and the profit-driven hempsters wail: for wail they will.</p>
<p>Regulation drives up the price, and erects barriers to the entry of new participants in the Markets, and keeps prices higher than they would naturally be:<br />
IMO Prohibition is like &#8220;high-proof&#8221; Regulation.<br />
And as staggering to the body (politic).</p>
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		<title>By: hobomike</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757550</link>
		<dc:creator>hobomike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>egads, this is stupid. First off, legalization doesn&#039;t mean market free-for-all. Just look at alcohol. The manufacture, sale, distribution AND consumption are all very tightly controlled. And taxed at every turn. This is really the point of legalization, no?

(I&#039;d add that freeing up our prisons/jails of soft-drug offenders is the other point.)

As for growers in Humboldt, Mendo, etc., they need to learn from the Wine and Cheese industries. There are industrial producers out there that make more daily that many countries do annually, yet we consumers still happily pay top-dollar for premium product. This is where they&#039;d need to go. If you&#039;ve had stuff from Humboldt, they&#039;re not far off. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>egads, this is stupid. First off, legalization doesn&#8217;t mean market free-for-all. Just look at alcohol. The manufacture, sale, distribution AND consumption are all very tightly controlled. And taxed at every turn. This is really the point of legalization, no?</p>
<p>(I&#8217;d add that freeing up our prisons/jails of soft-drug offenders is the other point.)</p>
<p>As for growers in Humboldt, Mendo, etc., they need to learn from the Wine and Cheese industries. There are industrial producers out there that make more daily that many countries do annually, yet we consumers still happily pay top-dollar for premium product. This is where they&#8217;d need to go. If you&#8217;ve had stuff from Humboldt, they&#8217;re not far off. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757806</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it was called bootleggers and baptist. both groups wanted prohibition </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it was called bootleggers and baptist. both groups wanted prohibition </p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-758581</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting that you chose two examples of companies &lt;em&gt;that did exactly what your logic says the tobacco companies wouldn&#039;t do&lt;/em&gt; if put in a similar situation. Sure Kmart got boycotted- but they didn&#039;t stop selling adult literature through Borders, did they? Same deal with Disney. What those companies had to lose from a few scattered boycotts was a pittance compared to what they had to gain.

The &quot;reputation&quot; argument is a joke. If a company with as family-friendly a reputation as Disney is willing to release films like &quot;Kill Bill&quot; under subsidiary Miramax then what makes you think that the people who sell &quot;cancer sticks&quot; are above dipping into the weed market once it becomes legal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that you chose two examples of companies <em>that did exactly what your logic says the tobacco companies wouldn&#8217;t do</em> if put in a similar situation. Sure Kmart got boycotted- but they didn&#8217;t stop selling adult literature through Borders, did they? Same deal with Disney. What those companies had to lose from a few scattered boycotts was a pittance compared to what they had to gain.</p>
<p>The &#8220;reputation&#8221; argument is a joke. If a company with as family-friendly a reputation as Disney is willing to release films like &#8220;Kill Bill&#8221; under subsidiary Miramax then what makes you think that the people who sell &#8220;cancer sticks&#8221; are above dipping into the weed market once it becomes legal?</p>
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		<title>By: hobomike</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757814</link>
		<dc:creator>hobomike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my (somewhat limited) understanding, the Proposition legalizes the use and possession of up to an ounce and provides some measure for growing for personal use only. It also provides guidelines for local governments to tax and regulate, if the so choose. It doesn&#039;t, AFAIK, advocate or suggest the legalization of commercial-scale production.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my (somewhat limited) understanding, the Proposition legalizes the use and possession of up to an ounce and provides some measure for growing for personal use only. It also provides guidelines for local governments to tax and regulate, if the so choose. It doesn&#8217;t, AFAIK, advocate or suggest the legalization of commercial-scale production.</p>
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		<title>By: Brainspore</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-758072</link>
		<dc:creator>Brainspore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;For the most part I support the legalization of pot but I&#039;m afraid of what the Tobacco companies will do to it like they do with cigarettes.&lt;/em&gt;

I wouldn&#039;t worry- if you can still go to farmers markets to buy organic heirloom tomatoes in the age of the Monsanto corporation then specialty pot growers should be able to survive Philip Morris.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>For the most part I support the legalization of pot but I&#8217;m afraid of what the Tobacco companies will do to it like they do with cigarettes.</em></p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t worry- if you can still go to farmers markets to buy organic heirloom tomatoes in the age of the Monsanto corporation then specialty pot growers should be able to survive Philip Morris.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-762427</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can get those cool &quot;Save Humboldt County&quot; stickers at http://savehumboldtcounty.com/ - Catchy eh? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can get those cool &#8220;Save Humboldt County&#8221; stickers at <a href="http://savehumboldtcounty.com/" rel="nofollow">http://savehumboldtcounty.com/</a> &#8211; Catchy eh? </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757564</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I see, keep pot illegal rather than obtain a business license and rights to distribute your own product like a smart person :O

Oh Like does everyone buy their beer from Coors and Miller now that we dont have a prohibition? I guess we forget that there are always local brewers booming in their business for those who prefer a better hand crafted beer :)

It&#039;s not bloody rocket science. When the times change, change your methods to seek your profit. Don&#039;t give up and ruin it for everyone sheesh XD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I see, keep pot illegal rather than obtain a business license and rights to distribute your own product like a smart person :O</p>
<p>Oh Like does everyone buy their beer from Coors and Miller now that we dont have a prohibition? I guess we forget that there are always local brewers booming in their business for those who prefer a better hand crafted beer :)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not bloody rocket science. When the times change, change your methods to seek your profit. Don&#8217;t give up and ruin it for everyone sheesh XD</p>
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		<title>By: SKR</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-757820</link>
		<dc:creator>SKR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is based on the Amiano Bill is does create a legal framework for cultivation, distribution, and retail sales.  As well as allowing for personal cultivation, (25sqft/person)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is based on the Amiano Bill is does create a legal framework for cultivation, distribution, and retail sales.  As well as allowing for personal cultivation, (25sqft/person)</p>
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		<title>By: 3P</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/09/keep-pot-illegal-say.html#comment-759363</link>
		<dc:creator>3P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because there&#039;s no such thing as organised crime cartels crushing smaller competitors?  WTF.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because there&#8217;s no such thing as organised crime cartels crushing smaller competitors?  WTF.  </p>
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