Comments on: Hitler's pissed off about fair use

By: thebonobo

thebonobo — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

try this, Floyd/Downfall fans…

let the Dark Side of the Chiptune play for ten seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLdKW_Db1k

then start playing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBO5dh9qrIQ

By: Paulwh80

Paulwh80 — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Bruno Ganz is one of the world’s best actors…

By: Enochrewt

Enochrewt — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Oh yeah, the irony line was funny as hell, as was the “I thought we were free to make fun of Hitler on the internet. I thought the “I fucking hate cats” line at the end was the trumper though.

By: jphilby

jphilby — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I laughed until I cried!

Instant classic!

By: Thac0

Thac0 — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

WoooooooooooooooT! It had to be made… now lets see how long it is until it gets taken down.

By: Pantograph

Pantograph — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Oh boy. This one was actually funny! Good job.

By: Bankara

Bankara — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Aaaaaaaaannd, irony of ironies, it has already been yanked from youtube

By: teapot

teapot — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

As if “I thought we could have nice things on the internet” is not the best line, evah!

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

At first I thought it was a bit dry, particularly the middle, but the end nailed it for me. Excellent!

By: RyanMcFitz

RyanMcFitz — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

“…he’ll get the irony soon…” almost had me spit-take my coffee all over my keyboard.

By: thewinchester

thewinchester — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Streisand effect anyone?

Anyway, off to watch a cat video now.

By: escowles

escowles — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Unfortunately, the copyright exception for commentary and satire wouldn’t protect these. When you use a work to satirize it, it’s protected. When you use a work to satirize something else, it’s not (see Dr. Seuss Enterprises v. Penguin Books, about a satire of O.J. Simpson whose use of The Cat in the Hat was ruled infringing). So this video and the meta one where Hitler wanted to make his own Downfall video would be the only ones that would probably pass muster.

Now, they would probably pass a regular fair use test. They are noncommercial, use only a small portion, and there really isn’t a market for them. So that would go a long way to making a case for fair use.

By: Sarah Neptune

Sarah Neptune — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Just watched this and laughed so hard that I had to pause it to wipe the tears from my eyes, and needed a shot of the asthma inhaler when it was over. Especially great line about “the irony”. I’m sure 300 of my closest neighbors heard me dying of laughter.
(Saw the non-parody real movie in the theater and wanted to die of non-laughter afterwards, goes w/o saying.)

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Ok of all of them that was the funniest and best use of the clip. Oh and I had the corporate bullies go after me once due to my art and parodies of WB. Told them f#$k off and they never bothered me again.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

That was brilliant, he’s right I only hired out the film after I saw all the parodies on youtube.

By: Van Diemen

Van Diemen — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Ha ha ‘I thought that we could have nice things on the internet’.

By: orn310

orn310 — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

…Hmm, this takedown notice thing is getting a tad bit ridiculous… Maybe… Just maybe…we could start up a donation drive to get these videos back onto youtube, one way or another…

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Godwins law, dude.

By: agerblic

agerblic — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Not to worry, it’s on Vimeo!

http://vimeo.com/11096415

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Many other Downfall videos were only sort-of-kind-of parody and sort-of-kind-of funny. This video IS parody at its finest and was %^&$ great!

By: pencilbox

pencilbox — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

So great.

Also, @escowles, thanks. I didn’t know that- it definitely puts copyright law into clearer context for me.

By: humanresource

humanresource — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Wow. I never, ever, thought I’d say this, but Hitler was spot on. Screw those Nazis.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

It was funny, but after video I felt really sad about it :|.

By: thebelgianpanda

thebelgianpanda — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

Unfortunately according to this ArsTechnica it has nothing to do with Fair Use. YouTube gives some companies the ability to pull down arbitrary content without a DMCA notice, so it's really just Google allowing third parties to censor their content. Illegal? Unlikely, I'm sure their EULA covers this. Unethical? Not really, Youtube get's to decide it's own rules. Dick Move? Absolutely.

By: ciacontra

ciacontra — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I like this one, where it’s Hitler sending out the takedowns, better: http://vimeo.com/11086952

By: thehappyengineer

thehappyengineer — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

It’s true: Hitler hated cats.

By: Dv Revolutionary

Dv Revolutionary — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

#4 escowles is legally right.

These videos don’t make fun of the movie downfall, they use the framework of downfall to make fun of something else. Legally they don’t get fair use protection.

That said, should we have a world without downfall videos? Of course not. Beyond being a fun distraction they bring the high down and serve a useful purpose of undermining authoritarian traits that have grown too far in our culture. They are awesome.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

I just wrote a paper about Youtube and I mention the Hitler videos; luckily these takedowns occurred after I submitted the paper a few weeks ago, I would have been screwed for examples otherwise.

By: BastardNamban

BastardNamban — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

This is f**king hilarious!

You know what a real bad day for the USA is? It’s when we have to use something like this, using Nazis and Hitler themselves, to explain the abuse of fair use and copyright law. It is, as it were, only true when the enemy is screaming in our face how wrong it is amongst themselves.

Poignant on many levels, this is. Now only if the enormous assholes in Congress and the media industry, along with the BIGGEST ASSHOLE OF THEM ALL- Rupert Murdoch, would fucking listen, and stop harassing people’s freedom of speech away.

That’s all this is- like it or not, they are abusing copyright law openly to shut up individuals and their freedom of speech.

It’s pretty bad when we have to use Nazis themselves to speak to the Nazis- Murdoch, I’m fucking looking at you!

By: MichaelRN

MichaelRN — Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000

(aide): My FÃ¼hrer, we can probably reupload it to Vimeo or DailyMotion…

(Hitler) Nobody uses Vimeo and DailyMotion! YouTube is the de facto standard!

Internet gold.