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	<title>Comments on: Google highlights fair use defense to YouTube&#160;takedowns</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-771584</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your Veggietales &quot;parody&quot; really doesn&#039;t sound like a legal parody at all, as it doesn&#039;t sound like your work really comments on the Veggietales series at all. The originality of the production is irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your Veggietales &#8220;parody&#8221; really doesn&#8217;t sound like a legal parody at all, as it doesn&#8217;t sound like your work really comments on the Veggietales series at all. The originality of the production is irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Ari B.</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768276</link>
		<dc:creator>Ari B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s... surprisingly fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s&#8230; surprisingly fair.</p>
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		<title>By: sloverlord</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768282</link>
		<dc:creator>sloverlord</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, Google! This is the way it should be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Google! This is the way it should be.</p>
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		<title>By: bja009</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768542</link>
		<dc:creator>bja009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s terrible advice. DMCA notices are often complete crap, like threats of SLAPP lawsuits. If you have a basic understanding of what constitutes fair use, and you&#039;re not an idiot, you&#039;re pretty safe.
For that, look here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#Fair_use_under_United_States_law
I know, Wiki isn&#039;t a source, but as a law student I can tell you that this is pretty reliable.
But also, as a law student, IANAL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s terrible advice. DMCA notices are often complete crap, like threats of SLAPP lawsuits. If you have a basic understanding of what constitutes fair use, and you&#8217;re not an idiot, you&#8217;re pretty safe.<br />
For that, look here: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#Fair_use_under_United_States_law" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#Fair_use_under_United_States_law</a><br />
I know, Wiki isn&#8217;t a source, but as a law student I can tell you that this is pretty reliable.<br />
But also, as a law student, IANAL.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768799</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fair use defence goes beyond parody, but that doesn&#039;t mean you can just shout &quot;fair use&quot; and be free; if not a parody, what other fair use defence would you assert?

The Hitler meme is just that: a meme, and not a parody. It doesn&#039;t really comment on the film or even that scene in the film in any meaningful way. The extremely wide application of the meme and the variety different viewpoints expressed in the meme are rather suggestive that most of these videos are not commenting on the actual movie or scene itself. I&#039;d also suggest that many more people have seen (and created) these videos than have actually seen the movie itself... and it&#039;s understandably difficult to parodize (in the legal sense of offering commentary on that specific thing) something which you haven&#039;t even seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fair use defence goes beyond parody, but that doesn&#8217;t mean you can just shout &#8220;fair use&#8221; and be free; if not a parody, what other fair use defence would you assert?</p>
<p>The Hitler meme is just that: a meme, and not a parody. It doesn&#8217;t really comment on the film or even that scene in the film in any meaningful way. The extremely wide application of the meme and the variety different viewpoints expressed in the meme are rather suggestive that most of these videos are not commenting on the actual movie or scene itself. I&#8217;d also suggest that many more people have seen (and created) these videos than have actually seen the movie itself&#8230; and it&#8217;s understandably difficult to parodize (in the legal sense of offering commentary on that specific thing) something which you haven&#8217;t even seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle Bell</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-769568</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My Hitler video (of Hitler finding out Cory hates the iPad) was taken down shortly after I put it up when they started taking down all of them.  But I went in and protested (after reading this blog) and it&#039;s back up!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlNOMaz7P64

So maybe there is still hope for this artform.  We&#039;ll see how long it lasts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Hitler video (of Hitler finding out Cory hates the iPad) was taken down shortly after I put it up when they started taking down all of them.  But I went in and protested (after reading this blog) and it&#8217;s back up!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlNOMaz7P64" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlNOMaz7P64</a></p>
<p>So maybe there is still hope for this artform.  We&#8217;ll see how long it lasts.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768291</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*This* is what &quot;Don&#039;t Be Evil&quot; looks like.  (Assuming it&#039;s as it seems, that is...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*This* is what &#8220;Don&#8217;t Be Evil&#8221; looks like.  (Assuming it&#8217;s as it seems, that is&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Ted8305</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768292</link>
		<dc:creator>Ted8305</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice.</description>
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		<title>By: amused</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768294</link>
		<dc:creator>amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect the Hitler/Downfall filmmakers are doing the takedowns because they will assert that the &#039;parodies&#039; aren&#039;t really legal parodies because they are using the original video images. Weird Al Yankovich does legal parodies of music videos because he creates new audio and video imagery. If people re-did the Hitler/Downfall scene with new actors, then it would be a legal parody. IMO, but I am not a lawyer. Don&#039;t sue me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect the Hitler/Downfall filmmakers are doing the takedowns because they will assert that the &#8216;parodies&#8217; aren&#8217;t really legal parodies because they are using the original video images. Weird Al Yankovich does legal parodies of music videos because he creates new audio and video imagery. If people re-did the Hitler/Downfall scene with new actors, then it would be a legal parody. IMO, but I am not a lawyer. Don&#8217;t sue me!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768552</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see what you&#039;re saying, but I disagree that it&#039;s terrible advice.  The reality is that if you contest a DMCA takedown, you are saying &quot;I believe I am allowed to use this material&quot;. If the copyright holder disagrees, the only thing left to do is sue you. So, effectively, by counter-notifying you are telling them that you&#039;re willing to defend your point of view in court.

IANAL either, but our Large Website Lawyer was the one who told us to say these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see what you&#8217;re saying, but I disagree that it&#8217;s terrible advice.  The reality is that if you contest a DMCA takedown, you are saying &#8220;I believe I am allowed to use this material&#8221;. If the copyright holder disagrees, the only thing left to do is sue you. So, effectively, by counter-notifying you are telling them that you&#8217;re willing to defend your point of view in court.</p>
<p>IANAL either, but our Large Website Lawyer was the one who told us to say these things.</p>
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		<title>By: eain</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768308</link>
		<dc:creator>eain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AWESOME.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AWESOME.</p>
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		<title>By: ultranaut</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768564</link>
		<dc:creator>ultranaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;ve got enough money to keep a gang of lawyers on staff that&#039;s pretty much what it already is. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve got enough money to keep a gang of lawyers on staff that&#8217;s pretty much what it already is. </p>
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		<title>By: A Nonny Moose</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768311</link>
		<dc:creator>A Nonny Moose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Call me cynical, but a quick read seems to indicate that there has been an additional step added to the takedown process that allows posters to claim Fair Use, but  getting the material taken down would still just require a sworn affidavit, not a court order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Call me cynical, but a quick read seems to indicate that there has been an additional step added to the takedown process that allows posters to claim Fair Use, but  getting the material taken down would still just require a sworn affidavit, not a court order.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768568</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you have ever tried to have contact with google legal/you tube you will notice serious DMCA breaches that they do ZERO about. Okay, so you make a claim b/c some moron is using your bandname &amp; doing so in same genre and style for example. You contact you tube and they see through documantation that you are the rightful owner of that name. Then they begin taking down the offending videos tagged with YOUR BANDS name. All looks good until you realize that they have only taken down about two of the offending videos. You contact them and a DIFFERENT employee will not process the rest of your claims, stating they don&#039;t take issue with the videos. They say &quot;get a lawyer&quot;... i say but you ALREADY agreed that the videos used the band name contrary to international laws. They ignore you. GREAT JOB YOU TUBE!
Fair use will be just as arbitrary as the staff members objective opinion &amp; who is paying them - that&#039;s not proper OVERSIGHT. Thank you for hearing my rant.

They still have done nothing about the thief -way to support musician YOU TUBE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have ever tried to have contact with google legal/you tube you will notice serious DMCA breaches that they do ZERO about. Okay, so you make a claim b/c some moron is using your bandname &#038; doing so in same genre and style for example. You contact you tube and they see through documantation that you are the rightful owner of that name. Then they begin taking down the offending videos tagged with YOUR BANDS name. All looks good until you realize that they have only taken down about two of the offending videos. You contact them and a DIFFERENT employee will not process the rest of your claims, stating they don&#8217;t take issue with the videos. They say &#8220;get a lawyer&#8221;&#8230; i say but you ALREADY agreed that the videos used the band name contrary to international laws. They ignore you. GREAT JOB YOU TUBE!<br />
Fair use will be just as arbitrary as the staff members objective opinion &#038; who is paying them &#8211; that&#8217;s not proper OVERSIGHT. Thank you for hearing my rant.</p>
<p>They still have done nothing about the thief -way to support musician YOU TUBE!</p>
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		<title>By: Jerril</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768314</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerril</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That may be the case, but it&#039;s not up to them, or Google (or you or me ;), to decide that. It&#039;s up to the legal system.

DMCA takedowns are not a replacement for the courts, and it&#039;s high time more hosting services and ISPs realized this.

Never mind that they don&#039;t apply to my country, and yet US agents keep trying it on providers here...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That may be the case, but it&#8217;s not up to them, or Google (or you or me ;), to decide that. It&#8217;s up to the legal system.</p>
<p>DMCA takedowns are not a replacement for the courts, and it&#8217;s high time more hosting services and ISPs realized this.</p>
<p>Never mind that they don&#8217;t apply to my country, and yet US agents keep trying it on providers here&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AirPillo</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768315</link>
		<dc:creator>AirPillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is awesome on toast. It&#039;s about time Youtube did something with regards to copyright that actually gives their uploaders some rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is awesome on toast. It&#8217;s about time Youtube did something with regards to copyright that actually gives their uploaders some rights.</p>
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		<title>By: ultranaut</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768318</link>
		<dc:creator>ultranaut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google really does bust out with the awesome a lot these days. This sounds like a &quot;sue me&quot; button in some ways though. I know that&#039;s how the law works, and that the law is completely fucked, but asserting your fair use rights instead of kowtowing means they either back down or take you to an actual court. I&#039;d find that pretty entertaining personally, but it would also be incredibly expensive and time consuming.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google really does bust out with the awesome a lot these days. This sounds like a &#8220;sue me&#8221; button in some ways though. I know that&#8217;s how the law works, and that the law is completely fucked, but asserting your fair use rights instead of kowtowing means they either back down or take you to an actual court. I&#8217;d find that pretty entertaining personally, but it would also be incredibly expensive and time consuming.  </p>
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		<title>By: Space Toast</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-769855</link>
		<dc:creator>Space Toast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in the crosshairs on YouTube right now. A company called Entertainment Rights, which owns the Veggietales series, sent a DMCA takedown notice over a parody of the Catholic church&#039;s child molestation scandal I produced called &quot;Veggietrials: Our Little Secret.&quot; This is a real DMCA takedown, not a Content ID block, as I didn&#039;t sample any content. The piece is an original parody, and I still have the 3D, audio, and edit files to prove it&#039;s my own work.

It isn&#039;t my best work. It&#039;ll never get me business. There are people it will upset, though I think it was something that needed to be said. A sane person would have let this go. Today is the 10th business day since I did what the law tells me I&#039;m supposed to do in these cases and filed a counternotice. We&#039;ll see if it gets Biblical.

This is why the DMCA system needs to be fixed. The belligerent party risks nothing by asserting a false claim. I risk everything by contesting it. Even a $50 automatic damage for an uncontested claim would be SOMETHING to economically disincentivize a company from lying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in the crosshairs on YouTube right now. A company called Entertainment Rights, which owns the Veggietales series, sent a DMCA takedown notice over a parody of the Catholic church&#8217;s child molestation scandal I produced called &#8220;Veggietrials: Our Little Secret.&#8221; This is a real DMCA takedown, not a Content ID block, as I didn&#8217;t sample any content. The piece is an original parody, and I still have the 3D, audio, and edit files to prove it&#8217;s my own work.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t my best work. It&#8217;ll never get me business. There are people it will upset, though I think it was something that needed to be said. A sane person would have let this go. Today is the 10th business day since I did what the law tells me I&#8217;m supposed to do in these cases and filed a counternotice. We&#8217;ll see if it gets Biblical.</p>
<p>This is why the DMCA system needs to be fixed. The belligerent party risks nothing by asserting a false claim. I risk everything by contesting it. Even a $50 automatic damage for an uncontested claim would be SOMETHING to economically disincentivize a company from lying.</p>
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		<title>By: Daedalus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768320</link>
		<dc:creator>Daedalus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hahahahahahah, &lt;b&gt;beautiful&lt;/b&gt;. Perfect response to notice-and-takedown is click-and-put-back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hahahahahahah, <b>beautiful</b>. Perfect response to notice-and-takedown is click-and-put-back.</p>
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		<title>By: cory</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768324</link>
		<dc:creator>cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time to write my counterclaim bot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time to write my counterclaim bot.</p>
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		<title>By: richardault</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-769093</link>
		<dc:creator>richardault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the first time in a very long time I applaud Google or whomever in that org had the foresight to add this feature.  For too long the corporates that own copyright have not had to concern themselves with the legitimacy of their DMCA notices.  Now they have to act with the same amount of care as their customers.  Wewt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the first time in a very long time I applaud Google or whomever in that org had the foresight to add this feature.  For too long the corporates that own copyright have not had to concern themselves with the legitimacy of their DMCA notices.  Now they have to act with the same amount of care as their customers.  Wewt!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768326</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google does seem to be putting points in the &quot;win&quot; column lately.  Good for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google does seem to be putting points in the &#8220;win&#8221; column lately.  Good for them.</p>
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		<title>By: CLAVDIVS</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768327</link>
		<dc:creator>CLAVDIVS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I want to know is, can I get in trouble for making a false or mistaken fair use claim?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I want to know is, can I get in trouble for making a false or mistaken fair use claim?</p>
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		<title>By: misterfricative</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768839</link>
		<dc:creator>misterfricative</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goddammit, the level of spin and factual disinformation in this ongoing story is just getting ridiculous. Cory, this is your &#039;beat&#039;.  In all conscience, how can you continue to be so sloppy about this?

First, Google/Youtube have &#039;changed&#039; or &#039;highlighted&#039; absolutely nothing.  All they&#039;ve done is point out that it&#039;s not their problem.  If you get taken down by the content ID system it&#039;s because of the default actions set by the content owner.  Nothing about any of this has changed.

As for the options/actions available to a person whose video has been flagged (and either blocked, monetized or left alone), again, these are exactly the same as they were before. (I speak from personal experience.  The &#039;fair use button&#039; -- it&#039;s not actually a button at all, AND it requires you to &#039;explain briefly&#039;  -- don&#039;t forget to run that past your attorney first, kids -- is three screens deep in the dispute process.)

Meanwhile, most, if not all, of the &#039;Downfall parodies&#039; are NOT in fact parodies.  This has enormous bearing on whether they&#039;re fair use or not. (And of course, if it gets to a DMCA dispute and push comes to shove, you could still end up getting screwed big time by a court decision even if you were in fact perfectly in the right.  Who do you think is going to be hiring the more expensive legal team, you or Constantin Film?)

Cory says: &lt;blockquote&gt;the people who sent the original takedown have to go to court to get it taken offline again&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As others have already pointed out:  no, they don&#039;t. The next step, if the rightsholders so choose, is simply to file a DMCA takedown notice, and your video gets taken down again.  You can also dispute this takedown, but at this point you are exposing yourself to some serious liability.  (IANAL, but again, I speak from personal experience. Last year, I disputed a DMCA takedown on a parody -- an actual parody -- that I made.  The original rights holder then came back and told Youtube that they had filed suit, but this turned out to be untrue and they eventually backed down.  In the end it took 3 months and some help from the EFF to get my video reinstated.  To be fair, I should also mention that rightsholders are also technically liable if they file &#039;frivolous&#039; DMCA takedowns, but this would be costly and difficult to pursue, and AFAIK it hasn&#039;t yet been tested in the courts.  In practice, my impression is that a corporation can still fire off DMCAs with very little risk of any blowback whatever.)

To be fair to Google/Youtube, they&#039;re in a difficult position: they have to keep their corporate clients happy while also not pissing off their millions of users.  Also, of course they have legal obligations, eg under the Safe Harbor provisions.  Consequently, from time to time they fire off PR flack as per the OP. But that&#039;s all it is, folks, just PR.  


tl;dr version:

Google/Youtube is to Content ID like Pontius Pilate is to Jesus. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goddammit, the level of spin and factual disinformation in this ongoing story is just getting ridiculous. Cory, this is your &#8216;beat&#8217;.  In all conscience, how can you continue to be so sloppy about this?</p>
<p>First, Google/Youtube have &#8216;changed&#8217; or &#8216;highlighted&#8217; absolutely nothing.  All they&#8217;ve done is point out that it&#8217;s not their problem.  If you get taken down by the content ID system it&#8217;s because of the default actions set by the content owner.  Nothing about any of this has changed.</p>
<p>As for the options/actions available to a person whose video has been flagged (and either blocked, monetized or left alone), again, these are exactly the same as they were before. (I speak from personal experience.  The &#8216;fair use button&#8217; &#8212; it&#8217;s not actually a button at all, AND it requires you to &#8216;explain briefly&#8217;  &#8212; don&#8217;t forget to run that past your attorney first, kids &#8212; is three screens deep in the dispute process.)</p>
<p>Meanwhile, most, if not all, of the &#8216;Downfall parodies&#8217; are NOT in fact parodies.  This has enormous bearing on whether they&#8217;re fair use or not. (And of course, if it gets to a DMCA dispute and push comes to shove, you could still end up getting screwed big time by a court decision even if you were in fact perfectly in the right.  Who do you think is going to be hiring the more expensive legal team, you or Constantin Film?)</p>
<p>Cory says:<br />
<blockquote>the people who sent the original takedown have to go to court to get it taken offline again</p></blockquote>
<p>As others have already pointed out:  no, they don&#8217;t. The next step, if the rightsholders so choose, is simply to file a DMCA takedown notice, and your video gets taken down again.  You can also dispute this takedown, but at this point you are exposing yourself to some serious liability.  (IANAL, but again, I speak from personal experience. Last year, I disputed a DMCA takedown on a parody &#8212; an actual parody &#8212; that I made.  The original rights holder then came back and told Youtube that they had filed suit, but this turned out to be untrue and they eventually backed down.  In the end it took 3 months and some help from the EFF to get my video reinstated.  To be fair, I should also mention that rightsholders are also technically liable if they file &#8216;frivolous&#8217; DMCA takedowns, but this would be costly and difficult to pursue, and AFAIK it hasn&#8217;t yet been tested in the courts.  In practice, my impression is that a corporation can still fire off DMCAs with very little risk of any blowback whatever.)</p>
<p>To be fair to Google/Youtube, they&#8217;re in a difficult position: they have to keep their corporate clients happy while also not pissing off their millions of users.  Also, of course they have legal obligations, eg under the Safe Harbor provisions.  Consequently, from time to time they fire off PR flack as per the OP. But that&#8217;s all it is, folks, just PR.  </p>
<p>tl;dr version:</p>
<p>Google/Youtube is to Content ID like Pontius Pilate is to Jesus. </p>
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		<title>By: Cactaur</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768331</link>
		<dc:creator>Cactaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird Al also covers his bases by asking for permission from the artists. He backed off an Eminem song because Eminem said it had personal meaning for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird Al also covers his bases by asking for permission from the artists. He backed off an Eminem song because Eminem said it had personal meaning for him.</p>
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		<title>By: HerkyDerky</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768587</link>
		<dc:creator>HerkyDerky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your original video is illegal, you&#039;ll get in trouble for that. Are you asking about getting in additional trouble?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your original video is illegal, you&#8217;ll get in trouble for that. Are you asking about getting in additional trouble?</p>
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		<title>By: andygates</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768333</link>
		<dc:creator>andygates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if it does go to court, you&#039;d be at the mercy of the judge - they could take your bukkit.

Awesome move by Google.  Hilarity shall now ensue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if it does go to court, you&#8217;d be at the mercy of the judge &#8211; they could take your bukkit.</p>
<p>Awesome move by Google.  Hilarity shall now ensue.</p>
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		<title>By: HerkyDerky</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768590</link>
		<dc:creator>HerkyDerky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; Because they won&#039;t have taken it down in the first place if the lawyers weren&#039;t ready for a fight.&lt;&lt;

I think that&#039;s going to be tested now. 

Up until this point, it seems (judging entirely by reading BB posts over the years) that they would do it to anything mildly irritating to them. Now we&#039;ll see who they really sue. Because they really don&#039;t want to lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>> Because they won&#8217;t have taken it down in the first place if the lawyers weren&#8217;t ready for a fight.<<</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s going to be tested now. </p>
<p>Up until this point, it seems (judging entirely by reading BB posts over the years) that they would do it to anything mildly irritating to them. Now we&#8217;ll see who they really sue. Because they really don&#8217;t want to lose.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768347</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Fair use is a defense in court. If they take you to court and it fails, you hit with the full copyright infringement claim (IANAL, YMMV)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Fair use is a defense in court. If they take you to court and it fails, you hit with the full copyright infringement claim (IANAL, YMMV)</p>
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		<title>By: amused</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/23/google-adds-fair-use.html#comment-768605</link>
		<dc:creator>amused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#Fair_use_under_United_States_law&quot;&gt;Wikipedia&lt;/a&gt; article on fair use:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Producers or creators of parodies of a copyrighted work have been sued for infringement by the targets of their ridicule, even though such use may be protected as fair use. These fair use cases distinguish between parodies (using a work in order to poke fun at or comment on the work itself) and satires (using a work to poke fun at or comment on something else). Courts have been more willing to grant fair use protections to parodies than to satires, but the ultimate outcome in either circumstance will turn on the application of the four fair use factors.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That seems to imply that the Hitler/Downfall videos are really satires, and not likely to be protected under fair use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#Fair_use_under_United_States_law">Wikipedia</a> article on fair use:</p>
<blockquote><p>Producers or creators of parodies of a copyrighted work have been sued for infringement by the targets of their ridicule, even though such use may be protected as fair use. These fair use cases distinguish between parodies (using a work in order to poke fun at or comment on the work itself) and satires (using a work to poke fun at or comment on something else). Courts have been more willing to grant fair use protections to parodies than to satires, but the ultimate outcome in either circumstance will turn on the application of the four fair use factors.</p></blockquote>
<p>That seems to imply that the Hitler/Downfall videos are really satires, and not likely to be protected under fair use.</p>
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