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	<title>Comments on: Beware of FYE&#039;s VIP Backstage Pass&#160;program</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771585</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just call your credit card company and dispute the charges...the merchant has to be able to prove you signed up  and since you didn&#039;t you will be refunded every charge...I think you can contest anything up to a year old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just call your credit card company and dispute the charges&#8230;the merchant has to be able to prove you signed up  and since you didn&#8217;t you will be refunded every charge&#8230;I think you can contest anything up to a year old.</p>
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		<title>By: 0xdeadbeef</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771590</link>
		<dc:creator>0xdeadbeef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not simply tell your credit card company the charges are fraudulent and/or have them issue a chargeback?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not simply tell your credit card company the charges are fraudulent and/or have them issue a chargeback?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-772103</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped buying from FYE when I noticed they sold DVDs and CDs for 130% markups, I stopped setting foot in an FYE after they only hired busty and dumb high school girls to flirt their way to sales in things they know nothing about. That was almost ten years ago, and I&#039;m glad to see they continue to keep it classy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped buying from FYE when I noticed they sold DVDs and CDs for 130% markups, I stopped setting foot in an FYE after they only hired busty and dumb high school girls to flirt their way to sales in things they know nothing about. That was almost ten years ago, and I&#8217;m glad to see they continue to keep it classy.</p>
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		<title>By: dainel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771593</link>
		<dc:creator>dainel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t you just dispute the charge with your credit card company? Why is it necessary to cancel the card to stop the charges? What happens to FYE when thousands of customers are disputing their charges. If we tried to do that, our merchant account would be closed within the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t you just dispute the charge with your credit card company? Why is it necessary to cancel the card to stop the charges? What happens to FYE when thousands of customers are disputing their charges. If we tried to do that, our merchant account would be closed within the week.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771595</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this even legal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this even legal?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-1091853</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> Cancelled mine online,  two days later they tried to charge my card but I blocked them from being able to because of this issue. I saved the cancellation page and the rep told me it says I needed to call a number WHILE I WAS LOOKING AT THE PAGE I SAVED!!!  It doesn&#039;t even give a number to call.  I would advise anyone who has a problem like this to CANCEL their card.  It is much less of a headache!  And file complaints with the Better Business Bureau!  Free trials are always scams!  Read everything!  Buyer Beware!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Cancelled mine online,  two days later they tried to charge my card but I blocked them from being able to because of this issue. I saved the cancellation page and the rep told me it says I needed to call a number WHILE I WAS LOOKING AT THE PAGE I SAVED!!!  It doesn&#8217;t even give a number to call.  I would advise anyone who has a problem like this to CANCEL their card.  It is much less of a headache!  And file complaints with the Better Business Bureau!  Free trials are always scams!  Read everything!  Buyer Beware!!!</p>
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		<title>By: dolo54</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771609</link>
		<dc:creator>dolo54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Disputing the charges is easy and just takes a phone call. I&#039;ve had to do it numerous times. If it&#039;s on a debit card you can dispute the charges with your bank. I&#039;ve had to do that as well, a little more of a pain, but not too bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Disputing the charges is easy and just takes a phone call. I&#8217;ve had to do it numerous times. If it&#8217;s on a debit card you can dispute the charges with your bank. I&#8217;ve had to do that as well, a little more of a pain, but not too bad.</p>
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		<title>By: Citryphus</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-772121</link>
		<dc:creator>Citryphus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just dispute the charges. Go through your statements and dispute every single bogus charge. In 20 years Amex has never given me a lick of trouble disputing charges. They&#039;re great about it. You can even do it online.

I wouldn&#039;t worry about your credit report either. In the highly unlikely event FYE attempts to tarnish your credit, you have the right to insert your own letter into your report. If you pay your bills on time no lender going to care about some $10 dispute.



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just dispute the charges. Go through your statements and dispute every single bogus charge. In 20 years Amex has never given me a lick of trouble disputing charges. They&#8217;re great about it. You can even do it online.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t worry about your credit report either. In the highly unlikely event FYE attempts to tarnish your credit, you have the right to insert your own letter into your report. If you pay your bills on time no lender going to care about some $10 dispute.</p>
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		<title>By: ranomatic</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771613</link>
		<dc:creator>ranomatic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the threat of going to the credit card company (esp. AmEx)is enough to get companies like this to shut down the account and reverse all charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the threat of going to the credit card company (esp. AmEx)is enough to get companies like this to shut down the account and reverse all charges.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771614</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Next time pay in cash. Talk to your bank--tell them you are being scammed---same for the credit card. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Next time pay in cash. Talk to your bank&#8211;tell them you are being scammed&#8212;same for the credit card. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771870</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really amazed everytime at how easy it is to pull off something like this with a credit card.

One of the reasons I try not to use the credit card too often.
Of course I&#039;m from germany and you actually still can use cash here.

Or your cash card.
You can still get scammed with those but usually its not too hard stopping monthly payments or even getting the money back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really amazed everytime at how easy it is to pull off something like this with a credit card.</p>
<p>One of the reasons I try not to use the credit card too often.<br />
Of course I&#8217;m from germany and you actually still can use cash here.</p>
<p>Or your cash card.<br />
You can still get scammed with those but usually its not too hard stopping monthly payments or even getting the money back.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-868899</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are two different cards, one is 10  bucks a month one is 25 for the year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are two different cards, one is 10  bucks a month one is 25 for the year.</p>
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		<title>By: Antinous / Moderator</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771622</link>
		<dc:creator>Antinous / Moderator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Disputing the charges is easy and just takes a phone call.&lt;/i&gt;

Lucky you. The last time that I disputed a charge (in a case of theft), I was required to write an essay and snail-mail it to my credit card company. Sidelining disputed charges is one of the myriad sleazy ways that credit card companies are trying to stay solvent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Disputing the charges is easy and just takes a phone call.</i></p>
<p>Lucky you. The last time that I disputed a charge (in a case of theft), I was required to write an essay and snail-mail it to my credit card company. Sidelining disputed charges is one of the myriad sleazy ways that credit card companies are trying to stay solvent.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Frauenfelder</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771626</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Frauenfelder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a similar instance, Wells Fargo told me I had to cancel my debit card and get a new number in order to prevent these kinds of charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a similar instance, Wells Fargo told me I had to cancel my debit card and get a new number in order to prevent these kinds of charges.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771884</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another vote for contacting the CC company rather than changing the card number.  If you cancel the card this way, they will keep trying to charge it until they hit some threshold amount, say 1 year, when you will &quot;owe&quot; $120.  You will never know this, since you are on a new card number now.  They will then sell the &quot;debt&quot; to a collection agency for some reduced amount, who will find you, haunt you for the $120, and besmirch your credit rating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another vote for contacting the CC company rather than changing the card number.  If you cancel the card this way, they will keep trying to charge it until they hit some threshold amount, say 1 year, when you will &#8220;owe&#8221; $120.  You will never know this, since you are on a new card number now.  They will then sell the &#8220;debt&#8221; to a collection agency for some reduced amount, who will find you, haunt you for the $120, and besmirch your credit rating.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771633</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FYE proves once again that it is the unwashed anus of electronics/entertainment retail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYE proves once again that it is the unwashed anus of electronics/entertainment retail.</p>
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		<title>By: proletariat</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771892</link>
		<dc:creator>proletariat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The FTC provides &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre16.shtm&quot;&gt;a helpful guide&lt;/a&gt; on disputing charges under the Fair Credit Billing Act.

Additionally, you can also file complaints with your local Better Business Bureau and State Attorney General&#039;s Office in order to try to prevent this happening to others in the future. In some cases, the Attorney General will pursue legal action on behalf of those affected in their state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FTC provides <a href="http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre16.shtm">a helpful guide</a> on disputing charges under the Fair Credit Billing Act.</p>
<p>Additionally, you can also file complaints with your local Better Business Bureau and State Attorney General&#8217;s Office in order to try to prevent this happening to others in the future. In some cases, the Attorney General will pursue legal action on behalf of those affected in their state.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Haeh</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771639</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Haeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a warning: Companies like this have been known to report you to a credit reporting agency for non-payment if you dispute the charges with your card company. I believe AOL used to do this before all the credit reporting agencies eventually stopped accepting their reports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a warning: Companies like this have been known to report you to a credit reporting agency for non-payment if you dispute the charges with your card company. I believe AOL used to do this before all the credit reporting agencies eventually stopped accepting their reports.</p>
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		<title>By: PrettyBoyTim</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-772412</link>
		<dc:creator>PrettyBoyTim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the UK, as well as disputing the charges, you would do well to contact the Office of Fair Trading. If you can find it out, it would also be worth contacting their credit card processing company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the UK, as well as disputing the charges, you would do well to contact the Office of Fair Trading. If you can find it out, it would also be worth contacting their credit card processing company.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771645</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is consumer fraud. If you&#039;re really interested in putting a stop to this type of petty theft, locate a good class action attorney. Even if you are cynical about class actions, suing the company is much more likely to (1) stop the practice and (2) making the company think twice about engaging in shady behavior in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is consumer fraud. If you&#8217;re really interested in putting a stop to this type of petty theft, locate a good class action attorney. Even if you are cynical about class actions, suing the company is much more likely to (1) stop the practice and (2) making the company think twice about engaging in shady behavior in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: ADavies</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771901</link>
		<dc:creator>ADavies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cash.  Cash is your friend. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash.  Cash is your friend. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-772157</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People from San Diego know that there are no Office Max stores in or around San Diego.  There are a small number of FYEs in San Diego, though.  Citryphus is right - Nate should take up the fraudulent charges with his credit card company because the vendor has refused to cooperate in working this out.  Credit card companies tend to be really aggressive and effective in working these sorts of disputes out.  He&#039;s also right that it shouldn&#039;t affect your credit.  What it does do is undermine peoples&#039; confidence in credit cards, which is why the credit card companies take these issues seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People from San Diego know that there are no Office Max stores in or around San Diego.  There are a small number of FYEs in San Diego, though.  Citryphus is right &#8211; Nate should take up the fraudulent charges with his credit card company because the vendor has refused to cooperate in working this out.  Credit card companies tend to be really aggressive and effective in working these sorts of disputes out.  He&#8217;s also right that it shouldn&#8217;t affect your credit.  What it does do is undermine peoples&#8217; confidence in credit cards, which is why the credit card companies take these issues seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771646</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if it would help, it wouldn&#039;t hurt to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if it would help, it wouldn&#8217;t hurt to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-1042754</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fye good for nothing!! the onlything they do take your money and run... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fye good for nothing!! the onlything they do take your money and run&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a sales associate at FYE, and there is no way that an associate could sign someone up who refused. We need to take the persons phone name, phone number, and address. Furthermore, in order for the customer to be charged they must sign a contract in addition to the credit card purchase approval. This contract is on a separate receipt than the credit card purchase approval. And, on this man&#039;s receipt, he would see the purchase of the cable and something that says .00 BSPVIP (or something to that effect.) The way that we sign people up is scan a new card, then take personal info, then complete the transaction. If he no longer has  his membership card (because there is no way that he was not handed one) all he has to do is go into the nearest FYE and ask them to look him up based on phone number or address and they will give him his account number. Of course the people on the phone try to convince you to keep it, but they do not refuse to cancel it. It&#039;s not like you call and say you want to cancel and they say &quot;no. sorry.&quot; Instead, they say &quot;these are the reasons you should keep it.&quot; I sign up, on average, 3 or 4 people a week for this program. Sometimes people do need to come back into the store to get their account number to cancel, and my boss and DM have never told us anything other than &quot;be polite and help them if they want to cancel.&quot; For someone to be signed up without their knowledge, they would have to not notice the associate scanning in the loyalty card info, be willing to give the associate their name, phone number, and address, AND sign an additional receipt all without asking any questions. More likely, this guy did sign up and didn&#039;t pay attention to what the associate was saying. And, for the record, if an associate DID manage to sign people up without their permission, they would be fired. This is absolutely not company policy and, as I said, it&#039;s pretty damn near impossible. 

And, just so you know, before I started working at FYE, I shopped their frequently. I have signed up for and cancelled the VIP without issue twice. My fiance has done it once. it really is just a  3 or 4 minute phone call. In fact, now you can cancel it online by clicking a button that says &quot;cancel.&quot; When people complain about the horrible ways in which they were scammed by FYE (it doesn&#039;t happen frequently, but we occasionally get them in our store) we help them as best as we can (get them their membership number and give them the cancellation phone number and website address) and then shake our heads when they leave. Because to  be signed up &quot;without their knowledge&quot; they would need to be willing to answer a lot of questions, ignore the loyalty card booklet handed to them, and sign a slip that says &quot;I understand that if I do not cancel within 30 days my card will be charged a monthly fee of ____&quot; (currently 11.99/ month.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a sales associate at FYE, and there is no way that an associate could sign someone up who refused. We need to take the persons phone name, phone number, and address. Furthermore, in order for the customer to be charged they must sign a contract in addition to the credit card purchase approval. This contract is on a separate receipt than the credit card purchase approval. And, on this man&#8217;s receipt, he would see the purchase of the cable and something that says .00 BSPVIP (or something to that effect.) The way that we sign people up is scan a new card, then take personal info, then complete the transaction. If he no longer has  his membership card (because there is no way that he was not handed one) all he has to do is go into the nearest FYE and ask them to look him up based on phone number or address and they will give him his account number. Of course the people on the phone try to convince you to keep it, but they do not refuse to cancel it. It&#8217;s not like you call and say you want to cancel and they say &#8220;no. sorry.&#8221; Instead, they say &#8220;these are the reasons you should keep it.&#8221; I sign up, on average, 3 or 4 people a week for this program. Sometimes people do need to come back into the store to get their account number to cancel, and my boss and DM have never told us anything other than &#8220;be polite and help them if they want to cancel.&#8221; For someone to be signed up without their knowledge, they would have to not notice the associate scanning in the loyalty card info, be willing to give the associate their name, phone number, and address, AND sign an additional receipt all without asking any questions. More likely, this guy did sign up and didn&#8217;t pay attention to what the associate was saying. And, for the record, if an associate DID manage to sign people up without their permission, they would be fired. This is absolutely not company policy and, as I said, it&#8217;s pretty damn near impossible. </p>
<p>And, just so you know, before I started working at FYE, I shopped their frequently. I have signed up for and cancelled the VIP without issue twice. My fiance has done it once. it really is just a  3 or 4 minute phone call. In fact, now you can cancel it online by clicking a button that says &#8220;cancel.&#8221; When people complain about the horrible ways in which they were scammed by FYE (it doesn&#8217;t happen frequently, but we occasionally get them in our store) we help them as best as we can (get them their membership number and give them the cancellation phone number and website address) and then shake our heads when they leave. Because to  be signed up &#8220;without their knowledge&#8221; they would need to be willing to answer a lot of questions, ignore the loyalty card booklet handed to them, and sign a slip that says &#8220;I understand that if I do not cancel within 30 days my card will be charged a monthly fee of ____&#8221; (currently 11.99/ month.) </p>
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		<title>By: murrayhenson</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771657</link>
		<dc:creator>murrayhenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool - when you google just &quot;FYE&quot; now, there is a link to this BB article (above the fold).  I suppose it is more profitable to rip off a bunch of people than to run a legitimate business though I doubt there is much longevity in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool &#8211; when you google just &#8220;FYE&#8221; now, there is a link to this BB article (above the fold).  I suppose it is more profitable to rip off a bunch of people than to run a legitimate business though I doubt there is much longevity in it.</p>
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		<title>By: vipNate</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-772169</link>
		<dc:creator>vipNate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an update. The charges have been disputed. In addition my bank was very helpful in telling me that my membership number appeared on my statement. If you have something like:

TLG*FYE VIPXXXXXXXXJUN 877-351-2131 N

on your statement, the X&#039;d out numbers are your membership number.

With this information I was able to call and cancel the membership. According to the rep I spoke with, I was &#039;signed up&#039; when I made my purchase. He claimed I had received a discount at the store (news to me), and that this &#039;entitled&#039; me to membership. Since I didn&#039;t opt out of membership within 30 days, they signed me up.

So now I have a cancellation number from him, and time will tell if they actually cancel the charges, or continue to bill me.

In the mean time, I&#039;ve learned a valuable lesson - don&#039;t shop at FYE, and check you statements, even if the dollar amount looks right. It&#039;s easy to miss a $10 charge, which is what they&#039;re counting on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an update. The charges have been disputed. In addition my bank was very helpful in telling me that my membership number appeared on my statement. If you have something like:</p>
<p>TLG*FYE VIPXXXXXXXXJUN 877-351-2131 N</p>
<p>on your statement, the X&#8217;d out numbers are your membership number.</p>
<p>With this information I was able to call and cancel the membership. According to the rep I spoke with, I was &#8216;signed up&#8217; when I made my purchase. He claimed I had received a discount at the store (news to me), and that this &#8216;entitled&#8217; me to membership. Since I didn&#8217;t opt out of membership within 30 days, they signed me up.</p>
<p>So now I have a cancellation number from him, and time will tell if they actually cancel the charges, or continue to bill me.</p>
<p>In the mean time, I&#8217;ve learned a valuable lesson &#8211; don&#8217;t shop at FYE, and check you statements, even if the dollar amount looks right. It&#8217;s easy to miss a $10 charge, which is what they&#8217;re counting on.</p>
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		<title>By: webmonkees</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771914</link>
		<dc:creator>webmonkees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having worked &#039;the other side&#039;, where a different division was signing people up unknowingly, then eventually customers called me when they noticed the bill.

I can assure you there is a monitoring system, and threats of employee termination.. For refunding too many defrauded customers.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having worked &#8216;the other side&#8217;, where a different division was signing people up unknowingly, then eventually customers called me when they noticed the bill.</p>
<p>I can assure you there is a monitoring system, and threats of employee termination.. For refunding too many defrauded customers.</p>
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		<title>By: Galadriel</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-771660</link>
		<dc:creator>Galadriel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooh, goody, credit card fraud and wire fraud.  Sounds like &quot;getting in touch with the criminal law authorities in their area&quot; and &quot;organizing a class action suit&quot; time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh, goody, credit card fraud and wire fraud.  Sounds like &#8220;getting in touch with the criminal law authorities in their area&#8221; and &#8220;organizing a class action suit&#8221; time.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/27/beware-of-fyes-vip-b.html#comment-917068</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I signed up for a free 60 day trial a few months back and they just started charging me! Without notice! And i didn&#039;t have but .83 cent in my account so now i&#039;m have -96 dollars in my account cos&#039; my bank&#039;s over draft charges! and i&#039;m only 18 and i don&#039;t have a job and idk what to do!D=</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I signed up for a free 60 day trial a few months back and they just started charging me! Without notice! And i didn&#8217;t have but .83 cent in my account so now i&#8217;m have -96 dollars in my account cos&#8217; my bank&#8217;s over draft charges! and i&#8217;m only 18 and i don&#8217;t have a job and idk what to do!D=</p>
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