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		<title>By: Rindan</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773635</link>
		<dc:creator>Rindan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there is one thing I learned from dating a girl who went through a battery of psych drugs is that they all fall roughly in the same category of &quot;We have no fucking clue how this stuff works, what is does, how it does it, or what it will do to you... but it has something to do with your brainz.&quot;  I&#039;m not damning psych drugs, I&#039;m just saying that you need to take the labels they give them with a grain of salt.  

Just because someone is taking an &quot;anti-psychotic&quot; doesn&#039;t mean they are psychotic.  It means they are taking a chemical that is tweaking on their brain chemistry that is some fraction of the population acts as an anti-psychotic.

Psychiatric &quot;disorders&quot; and the battery of drugs used to treat them are maybe a step above leeching at the moment.  We don&#039;t even classify most psychiatric disorders by the their root cause.  We just classify them by a set of symptoms.  It would be like if we classified any time someone had a runny nose and a cough as being &quot;sick&quot;, instead of differentiating between someone with a allergies and a virus, muchless a specific virus or specific allergy.

I&#039;m not shitting on the field.  They are doing the best they can and making progress in leaps and bounds, but they are very much in the &#039;sawbones&#039; stage of the discovery.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there is one thing I learned from dating a girl who went through a battery of psych drugs is that they all fall roughly in the same category of &#8220;We have no fucking clue how this stuff works, what is does, how it does it, or what it will do to you&#8230; but it has something to do with your brainz.&#8221;  I&#8217;m not damning psych drugs, I&#8217;m just saying that you need to take the labels they give them with a grain of salt.  </p>
<p>Just because someone is taking an &#8220;anti-psychotic&#8221; doesn&#8217;t mean they are psychotic.  It means they are taking a chemical that is tweaking on their brain chemistry that is some fraction of the population acts as an anti-psychotic.</p>
<p>Psychiatric &#8220;disorders&#8221; and the battery of drugs used to treat them are maybe a step above leeching at the moment.  We don&#8217;t even classify most psychiatric disorders by the their root cause.  We just classify them by a set of symptoms.  It would be like if we classified any time someone had a runny nose and a cough as being &#8220;sick&#8221;, instead of differentiating between someone with a allergies and a virus, muchless a specific virus or specific allergy.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not shitting on the field.  They are doing the best they can and making progress in leaps and bounds, but they are very much in the &#8216;sawbones&#8217; stage of the discovery.  </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Gordon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773895</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are non-psychiatric indications for some of these.  Seizure control was mentioned already.  Valium is used in preparation for certain surgical procedures; it&#039;s unclear to me whether that&#039;s included in these figures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are non-psychiatric indications for some of these.  Seizure control was mentioned already.  Valium is used in preparation for certain surgical procedures; it&#8217;s unclear to me whether that&#8217;s included in these figures.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-774665</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on, Angstrom. Anxiety is a message from mother nature to change something. You&#039;re getting that uneasy feeling for a reason....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on, Angstrom. Anxiety is a message from mother nature to change something. You&#8217;re getting that uneasy feeling for a reason&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773390</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget the 4th abstract war: &quot;
the War on Drugs&quot; which by the looks of this list is coming in at a dead loss as well.

This list becomes even more startling with the revelation that most antidepressants are no more effective than placebos, except in severe cases http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/depression-medication-why_b_550098.html.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget the 4th abstract war: &#8221;<br />
the War on Drugs&#8221; which by the looks of this list is coming in at a dead loss as well.</p>
<p>This list becomes even more startling with the revelation that most antidepressants are no more effective than placebos, except in severe cases <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/depression-medication-why_b_550098.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mark-hyman/depression-medication-why_b_550098.html</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: phisrow</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773392</link>
		<dc:creator>phisrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world is definitely pretty ghastly, in numerous respects; but there is an important matter of perspective to keep in mind: Prescription anxiolytics and antidepressants are easy to measure, and their use is rising rapidly; but society&#039;s &lt;i&gt;total&lt;/i&gt; use of anxiolytics and antidepressants needs to count the prescription stuff along with various over-the-counter and illegal compounds.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

Some of the uptick is, almost certainly, tied to the fact that modernity is a grim, perpetually uncertain grind. Some of it, though, is more likely due to the fact that you can now get fired for drinking during lunch hour on workdays. A mg or two of Lorazepam takes the edge off to much the same extent that a unit or two of alcohol does; but is virtually undetectable by sight or scent and possesses the validation of a Doctor&#039;s prescription.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;

People have been altering their moods chemically since forever(observe the archeological pot stashes going back 10 millenia or so, or some of the crazy shit that went into patent medicines and &quot;nerve tonics&quot; and such. The really dramatic difference in recent years is that a lot of that mood altering is now being done with agents that have some degree of scientific testing, and under something resembling the supervision of a physician...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world is definitely pretty ghastly, in numerous respects; but there is an important matter of perspective to keep in mind: Prescription anxiolytics and antidepressants are easy to measure, and their use is rising rapidly; but society&#8217;s <i>total</i> use of anxiolytics and antidepressants needs to count the prescription stuff along with various over-the-counter and illegal compounds.</p>
<p>Some of the uptick is, almost certainly, tied to the fact that modernity is a grim, perpetually uncertain grind. Some of it, though, is more likely due to the fact that you can now get fired for drinking during lunch hour on workdays. A mg or two of Lorazepam takes the edge off to much the same extent that a unit or two of alcohol does; but is virtually undetectable by sight or scent and possesses the validation of a Doctor&#8217;s prescription.</p>
<p>People have been altering their moods chemically since forever(observe the archeological pot stashes going back 10 millenia or so, or some of the crazy shit that went into patent medicines and &#8220;nerve tonics&#8221; and such. The really dramatic difference in recent years is that a lot of that mood altering is now being done with agents that have some degree of scientific testing, and under something resembling the supervision of a physician&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773394</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; The people taking anti-anxiety medications is much higher than 40M.

I doubt it. The numbers presented are NOT the number of people using these drugs, but the number of prescriptions for these drugs. Since a person typically would have several prescriptions a year, the number of people using these drugs is much less. This is pretty obvious, adding the numbers in the chart together would mean pretty much everyone was on something, despite your experience with your circle of friends I don&#039;t think this is true. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>> The people taking anti-anxiety medications is much higher than 40M.</p>
<p>I doubt it. The numbers presented are NOT the number of people using these drugs, but the number of prescriptions for these drugs. Since a person typically would have several prescriptions a year, the number of people using these drugs is much less. This is pretty obvious, adding the numbers in the chart together would mean pretty much everyone was on something, despite your experience with your circle of friends I don&#8217;t think this is true. </p>
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		<title>By: Robert Aguirre</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773396</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Aguirre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Xanax is middle class pot.  People take it somewhat recreationally to take the edge off, but they won&#039;t get arrested and they can get it when they buy groceries.  Plus, if they&#039;re insurance is good enough it&#039;s conceivable cheaper.

Which of course isn&#039;t to suggest that there aren&#039;t people with debilitating anxiety that would be dysfunctional without it.  I just wonder about the relative proportions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xanax is middle class pot.  People take it somewhat recreationally to take the edge off, but they won&#8217;t get arrested and they can get it when they buy groceries.  Plus, if they&#8217;re insurance is good enough it&#8217;s conceivable cheaper.</p>
<p>Which of course isn&#8217;t to suggest that there aren&#8217;t people with debilitating anxiety that would be dysfunctional without it.  I just wonder about the relative proportions.</p>
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		<title>By: MiaR</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiaR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>44 million is the number of prescriptions for Xanax, not necessarily the number of people on Xanax. You don&#039;t just get refill after refill of this stuff (well, at least if you have a good doctor you don&#039;t). My doctor gives me a new prescription each time. So, if they are just counting the number of prescriptions, about 4 of those are me. I&#039;m sure there are others who are the same. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>44 million is the number of prescriptions for Xanax, not necessarily the number of people on Xanax. You don&#8217;t just get refill after refill of this stuff (well, at least if you have a good doctor you don&#8217;t). My doctor gives me a new prescription each time. So, if they are just counting the number of prescriptions, about 4 of those are me. I&#8217;m sure there are others who are the same. </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone know the actual rate of clinical depression for the US? Or the rate of anxiety based conditions for which medication is the prescribed course of treatment?

I have to think that these numbers are showing a prescription rate 3x to 4x the actual rate for recommended treatment.

These numbers are not surprising, but they are frustrating as hell. Big-pharma has so inured itself into the matrix of our lives. I know a person who used to work for a major Pharm and was livid when regulations were proposed to limit the amount of money Pharma could spend plying doctors with dinners and vacations. They said &quot;This business is all about the relationships&quot;.

No, this business is supposed to be all about helping the patients, and 44 million xanax users seems glaringly out of line with that mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know the actual rate of clinical depression for the US? Or the rate of anxiety based conditions for which medication is the prescribed course of treatment?</p>
<p>I have to think that these numbers are showing a prescription rate 3x to 4x the actual rate for recommended treatment.</p>
<p>These numbers are not surprising, but they are frustrating as hell. Big-pharma has so inured itself into the matrix of our lives. I know a person who used to work for a major Pharm and was livid when regulations were proposed to limit the amount of money Pharma could spend plying doctors with dinners and vacations. They said &#8220;This business is all about the relationships&#8221;.</p>
<p>No, this business is supposed to be all about helping the patients, and 44 million xanax users seems glaringly out of line with that mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773411</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, and absolutely fascinating book on rethinking our approach to anxiety and depression (of the non-David Foster Wallace yes you should absolutely be on medication variety) is Against Happiness by Eric G. Wilson.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, and absolutely fascinating book on rethinking our approach to anxiety and depression (of the non-David Foster Wallace yes you should absolutely be on medication variety) is Against Happiness by Eric G. Wilson.</p>
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		<title>By: mister-o</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773673</link>
		<dc:creator>mister-o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rindan,

What you say is true, but it&#039;s worse than that, I think.  Ghostwriting and the burying of study results that don&#039;t convey the desired message spring to mind.  But don&#039;t take my word for it (and before anyone asks, it&#039;s not just Big Pharma&#039;s fault).  Here are a couple links you might find interesting:

http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0030185
http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/04/deconstructing_a_promotional_s.html

From the second link, to a point that you touched on:
&lt;em&gt;&quot;Indications (&quot;antipsychotic&quot;) etc, are descriptors, not identifiers.  15 years ago Geodon was tested for schizophrenia, and found to be effective.  Today, it is tested for maintenance bipolar; so we say &quot;this antipsychotic is also effective for bipolar maintenance.&quot;  Wrong.  That&#039;s an accident of history.  15 years ago they could have first tested it for bipolar, and today done schizophrenia trials, and then we&#039;d say, &quot;this is a mood stabilizer that also treats psychosis.&quot;  Both of those statements are empty.  It is a chemical, it has utility, not identity.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rindan,</p>
<p>What you say is true, but it&#8217;s worse than that, I think.  Ghostwriting and the burying of study results that don&#8217;t convey the desired message spring to mind.  But don&#8217;t take my word for it (and before anyone asks, it&#8217;s not just Big Pharma&#8217;s fault).  Here are a couple links you might find interesting:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0030185" rel="nofollow">http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.0030185</a><br />
<a href="http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/04/deconstructing_a_promotional_s.html" rel="nofollow">http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/04/deconstructing_a_promotional_s.html</a></p>
<p>From the second link, to a point that you touched on:<br />
<em>&#8220;Indications (&#8220;antipsychotic&#8221;) etc, are descriptors, not identifiers.  15 years ago Geodon was tested for schizophrenia, and found to be effective.  Today, it is tested for maintenance bipolar; so we say &#8220;this antipsychotic is also effective for bipolar maintenance.&#8221;  Wrong.  That&#8217;s an accident of history.  15 years ago they could have first tested it for bipolar, and today done schizophrenia trials, and then we&#8217;d say, &#8220;this is a mood stabilizer that also treats psychosis.&#8221;  Both of those statements are empty.  It is a chemical, it has utility, not identity.&#8221;</em></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773940</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was on nardil from 1980 to 1991. It didn&#039;t really help the underlying cause of my depression/anxiety, just made me fat and manic. I guess I interpreted that as being &quot;cured&quot; because I stayed on the nardil (avoiding wine and cheese of course). I tried being &quot;med free&quot; from &#039;91 to &#039;92, but simply could not do it. The old depression/anxiety returned with a vengeance. In 1992, my primary care doc put me on paxil, which I stayed on until 2009. Like the nardil, it made me manic, which I again interpreted as being cured. I was still depressed. In &#039;97, I had a sleep study for apnea. They could see by my brain waves that I had &quot;alpha intrusions&quot;... abnormal sleep architecture. The paxil was making the quality of my sleep worse, which made my symptoms worse.
In my opinion, most of the problems that lead folks to seek pharmaceutical relief can be traced back to abnormal sleep architecture. If you&#039;re not getting quality sleep. all stages, uninterrupted, then you will have symptoms. Is there a medication that can fix that? Not that I know of. Xanax suppresses slow wave, stage 4 sleep. So do most sleeping pills.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was on nardil from 1980 to 1991. It didn&#8217;t really help the underlying cause of my depression/anxiety, just made me fat and manic. I guess I interpreted that as being &#8220;cured&#8221; because I stayed on the nardil (avoiding wine and cheese of course). I tried being &#8220;med free&#8221; from &#8217;91 to &#8217;92, but simply could not do it. The old depression/anxiety returned with a vengeance. In 1992, my primary care doc put me on paxil, which I stayed on until 2009. Like the nardil, it made me manic, which I again interpreted as being cured. I was still depressed. In &#8217;97, I had a sleep study for apnea. They could see by my brain waves that I had &#8220;alpha intrusions&#8221;&#8230; abnormal sleep architecture. The paxil was making the quality of my sleep worse, which made my symptoms worse.<br />
In my opinion, most of the problems that lead folks to seek pharmaceutical relief can be traced back to abnormal sleep architecture. If you&#8217;re not getting quality sleep. all stages, uninterrupted, then you will have symptoms. Is there a medication that can fix that? Not that I know of. Xanax suppresses slow wave, stage 4 sleep. So do most sleeping pills.</p>
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		<title>By: mister-o</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773433</link>
		<dc:creator>mister-o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anti-depressants that experienced a decline in usage from 05 to 09:
Zoloft
Prozac
Effexor
Celexa
Wellbutrin

Anti-depressants that were released in a generic form between 05 and 09 (inclusive):
Zoloft
Effexor
Celexa
Wellbutrin

Do the math.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti-depressants that experienced a decline in usage from 05 to 09:<br />
Zoloft<br />
Prozac<br />
Effexor<br />
Celexa<br />
Wellbutrin</p>
<p>Anti-depressants that were released in a generic form between 05 and 09 (inclusive):<br />
Zoloft<br />
Effexor<br />
Celexa<br />
Wellbutrin</p>
<p>Do the math.</p>
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		<title>By: aelfscine</title>
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		<dc:creator>aelfscine</dc:creator>
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		<description>The thing that I think is a shame is that none of these drugs actually solve anything.  Depression and anxiety don&#039;t just happen randomly, there&#039;s a cause to them.  And if you&#039;re just popping pills so that you don&#039;t notice the depression any more, you&#039;re doing nothing to address the cause of the problem.  The problem is still there, unfixed - you&#039;re just ignoring it.  So now the drugs become essential in two ways - first, just straight-up addiction, and second, if you ever stop taking them, the thing that was making you depressed in the first place is still there, and has probably gotten worse due to your inattention.  Your sucky job that works you double what it should is still doing it, because all the time you were drugged up it never bothered you.  Your husband has a girl on the side because you work 80 hours a week?  Yep, she&#039;s still there too.

Just think, if you&#039;d quit your job and gotten a divorce, you might not have needed the drugs in the first place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing that I think is a shame is that none of these drugs actually solve anything.  Depression and anxiety don&#8217;t just happen randomly, there&#8217;s a cause to them.  And if you&#8217;re just popping pills so that you don&#8217;t notice the depression any more, you&#8217;re doing nothing to address the cause of the problem.  The problem is still there, unfixed &#8211; you&#8217;re just ignoring it.  So now the drugs become essential in two ways &#8211; first, just straight-up addiction, and second, if you ever stop taking them, the thing that was making you depressed in the first place is still there, and has probably gotten worse due to your inattention.  Your sucky job that works you double what it should is still doing it, because all the time you were drugged up it never bothered you.  Your husband has a girl on the side because you work 80 hours a week?  Yep, she&#8217;s still there too.</p>
<p>Just think, if you&#8217;d quit your job and gotten a divorce, you might not have needed the drugs in the first place!</p>
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		<title>By: Silent_Guru</title>
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		<description>&quot;It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<description>Thank you psychiatry resident, #60, for your perspective, with which I totally agree.  disorders are far more common than lay people can admit.  With the science of brain neurology expanding and with the proof of CAT scans and MRI&#039;s, these meds are being prescribed to treat medical conditions.  Why is that bad?  What about those of us who it actually helps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you psychiatry resident, #60, for your perspective, with which I totally agree.  disorders are far more common than lay people can admit.  With the science of brain neurology expanding and with the proof of CAT scans and MRI&#8217;s, these meds are being prescribed to treat medical conditions.  Why is that bad?  What about those of us who it actually helps?</p>
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		<title>By: nutbastard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773708</link>
		<dc:creator>nutbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, but god forbid anyone take LSD once and figure out WTF they&#039;re so anxious about...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, but god forbid anyone take LSD once and figure out WTF they&#8217;re so anxious about&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cmza</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773204</link>
		<dc:creator>cmza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ativan (and diazepam) is also used for seizure control.

What is a &quot;superscription&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ativan (and diazepam) is also used for seizure control.</p>
<p>What is a &#8220;superscription&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Suds</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773207</link>
		<dc:creator>Suds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, and it&#039;s FREAKING me out!  *gulps down a handful of Xana-Lofta-Pro&#039;s*   Ahhh, That&#039;s better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, and it&#8217;s FREAKING me out!  *gulps down a handful of Xana-Lofta-Pro&#8217;s*   Ahhh, That&#8217;s better.</p>
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		<title>By: TheCrawNotTheCraw</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773466</link>
		<dc:creator>TheCrawNotTheCraw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You claim that Valium is stronger than Xanax.

In my experience, Xanax is about 3-4X stronger than Valium.  Xanax was the strongest anti-anxiety med I ever needed to take.

You could sleep through a nuclear war with Xanax.  It was a blessing at the time, when my sleep patterns were completely upset.

Nonetheless, because it is a very strong sedative, it is very disquieting to see it being the most prescribed drug.

Finally, my old friend, who is a psychiatrist, said that he never wrote a prescription for Xanax.

And beware of Effexor. Google &quot;Effexor withdrawl&quot; (with the quotes) and you&#039;ll see what I mean. Worst med I ever withdrew from.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You claim that Valium is stronger than Xanax.</p>
<p>In my experience, Xanax is about 3-4X stronger than Valium.  Xanax was the strongest anti-anxiety med I ever needed to take.</p>
<p>You could sleep through a nuclear war with Xanax.  It was a blessing at the time, when my sleep patterns were completely upset.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, because it is a very strong sedative, it is very disquieting to see it being the most prescribed drug.</p>
<p>Finally, my old friend, who is a psychiatrist, said that he never wrote a prescription for Xanax.</p>
<p>And beware of Effexor. Google &#8220;Effexor withdrawl&#8221; (with the quotes) and you&#8217;ll see what I mean. Worst med I ever withdrew from.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773467</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitpicking, but I noticed a couple commentators comparing the numbers on the chart to the population of the US, so it should be pointed out that this chart is measuring the number of &quot;prescriptions.&quot; Unless the vast majority of people on these meds are getting one prescription a year, than the numbers reported are a multiple of the number of people on the meds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitpicking, but I noticed a couple commentators comparing the numbers on the chart to the population of the US, so it should be pointed out that this chart is measuring the number of &#8220;prescriptions.&#8221; Unless the vast majority of people on these meds are getting one prescription a year, than the numbers reported are a multiple of the number of people on the meds.</p>
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		<title>By: thequickbrownfox</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773212</link>
		<dc:creator>thequickbrownfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7 years on Zoloft and it only takes the edge off the anxiety, switched to Prozac recently and the side-effects are intolerable (insomnia, skin rashes, dehydration)

Now on Aropax, but I have to wean off Prozac with a 14 day cold turkey regime before I can actually take them.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7 years on Zoloft and it only takes the edge off the anxiety, switched to Prozac recently and the side-effects are intolerable (insomnia, skin rashes, dehydration)</p>
<p>Now on Aropax, but I have to wean off Prozac with a 14 day cold turkey regime before I can actually take them.</p>
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		<title>By: hassan-i-sabbah</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773220</link>
		<dc:creator>hassan-i-sabbah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>milgrim asks &quot;Where is &quot;RIZE&quot;?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>milgrim asks &#8220;Where is &#8220;RIZE&#8221;?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773476</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took trazodone for a number of years (2 or 3) as an off-label for my severe insomnia.  Did the tests before starting it, and it wasn&#039;t apnea.  Worked OK at first, but then I became acclimated within a year, and started using the trazodone along with melatonin and light therapy, and it was about 80% effective.  Gave it up for pot, and never looked back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took trazodone for a number of years (2 or 3) as an off-label for my severe insomnia.  Did the tests before starting it, and it wasn&#8217;t apnea.  Worked OK at first, but then I became acclimated within a year, and started using the trazodone along with melatonin and light therapy, and it was about 80% effective.  Gave it up for pot, and never looked back!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773227</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait &#039;til all this stuff is illegal. The side-effects for this stuff are horrendous. Some of them have less than placebo effect effectiveness. Withdrawal from this stuff can take years. Maybe the FDA will be reformed in the coming years.


p.s. LOL: the CAPTCHA phrase to enter this message is: &quot;massive rehabs&quot; -- how totally spot-on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait &#8217;til all this stuff is illegal. The side-effects for this stuff are horrendous. Some of them have less than placebo effect effectiveness. Withdrawal from this stuff can take years. Maybe the FDA will be reformed in the coming years.</p>
<p>p.s. LOL: the CAPTCHA phrase to enter this message is: &#8220;massive rehabs&#8221; &#8212; how totally spot-on!</p>
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		<title>By: phisrow</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773230</link>
		<dc:creator>phisrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top US Psychiatric Pharmaceuticals, 1809 edition:
1. Ethyl Alcohol
2. Tobacco
3. Smelling salts
4. Opiate-containing Patent medicine(generic)
5. The Water cure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top US Psychiatric Pharmaceuticals, 1809 edition:<br />
1. Ethyl Alcohol<br />
2. Tobacco<br />
3. Smelling salts<br />
4. Opiate-containing Patent medicine(generic)<br />
5. The Water cure.</p>
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		<title>By: weendex</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773489</link>
		<dc:creator>weendex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I added up their top 25 list, not including risperdal, and the total was 302 Million prescriptions.

That is approximately 1 prescription per person in the US.

I don&#039;t know how often these prescriptions are refilled, as apparently I am one of the rare few who doesn&#039;t need psychiatric help, but this is a staggering number. wtf society?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I added up their top 25 list, not including risperdal, and the total was 302 Million prescriptions.</p>
<p>That is approximately 1 prescription per person in the US.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how often these prescriptions are refilled, as apparently I am one of the rare few who doesn&#8217;t need psychiatric help, but this is a staggering number. wtf society?</p>
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		<title>By: nutbastard</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773746</link>
		<dc:creator>nutbastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Depression and anxiety don&#039;t just happen randomly, there&#039;s a cause to them.&quot;

Manic depressives everywhere would like to dispute that. Lots of times the best solution to a manic episode is to just wait it out. it can be days, weeks, months even. in the mean time, it kind of helps if you&#039;re able to function.

as someone who obviously believes that depression is purely environmental, you likely have no clue how much worse depression caused by radical chemical imbalance can be compared to &#039;normal&#039; depression, ie being depressed &#039;about&#039; something.

i&#039;ve never taken pharmaceuticals for depression for fear of mucking things up even more and it&#039;s always worked out in the long run, but there are legitimate uses for these things, and the issue of depression is not nearly so black and white as you make it out to be. i&#039;ve had people in my life die, devastating financial situations, betrayals, shitty jobs etc that made me depressed. none of them even came *close* to the times i was depressed for no reason at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Depression and anxiety don&#8217;t just happen randomly, there&#8217;s a cause to them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Manic depressives everywhere would like to dispute that. Lots of times the best solution to a manic episode is to just wait it out. it can be days, weeks, months even. in the mean time, it kind of helps if you&#8217;re able to function.</p>
<p>as someone who obviously believes that depression is purely environmental, you likely have no clue how much worse depression caused by radical chemical imbalance can be compared to &#8216;normal&#8217; depression, ie being depressed &#8216;about&#8217; something.</p>
<p>i&#8217;ve never taken pharmaceuticals for depression for fear of mucking things up even more and it&#8217;s always worked out in the long run, but there are legitimate uses for these things, and the issue of depression is not nearly so black and white as you make it out to be. i&#8217;ve had people in my life die, devastating financial situations, betrayals, shitty jobs etc that made me depressed. none of them even came *close* to the times i was depressed for no reason at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Ignatz</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-773492</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignatz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing to consider is that medication is cheaper and easier for the user than talk therapies.  They&#039;re about equally effective in treating anxiety and depression, but not many of us can spend an hour a week with a therapist.  I&#039;m also more likely to get coverage for a bottle of pills than for years of therapy.  I&#039;ve had to terminate therapy various times because my insurance wouldn&#039;t cover the entire cost.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing to consider is that medication is cheaper and easier for the user than talk therapies.  They&#8217;re about equally effective in treating anxiety and depression, but not many of us can spend an hour a week with a therapist.  I&#8217;m also more likely to get coverage for a bottle of pills than for years of therapy.  I&#8217;ve had to terminate therapy various times because my insurance wouldn&#8217;t cover the entire cost.  </p>
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		<title>By: andreinla</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/04/29/top-us-psychiatric-p.html#comment-774006</link>
		<dc:creator>andreinla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roughly 315 million prescriptions for a population of 315 million (2008 numbers).

That sounds about right.

I understand that mental illness is crippling and I understand that many patients get more than one prescription.

What I find interesting is the staggering amount of people getting prescriptions. The first thought that comes to mind is that our lifestyles are driving us insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roughly 315 million prescriptions for a population of 315 million (2008 numbers).</p>
<p>That sounds about right.</p>
<p>I understand that mental illness is crippling and I understand that many patients get more than one prescription.</p>
<p>What I find interesting is the staggering amount of people getting prescriptions. The first thought that comes to mind is that our lifestyles are driving us insane.</p>
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