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	<title>Comments on: Vatican investigates nuns on complaints of &quot;feminism,&#160;activism&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: snakedart</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-777992</link>
		<dc:creator>snakedart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Vatican investigates nuns for allegedly living in the 21st Century&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Vatican investigates nuns for allegedly living in the 21st Century&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: wiredfool</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-778003</link>
		<dc:creator>wiredfool</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if they&#039;re going to investigate the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if they&#8217;re going to investigate the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. </p>
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		<title>By: chutotoro</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-778005</link>
		<dc:creator>chutotoro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Catholic church is checking to see that various Catholic religious groups are in communion with the Church and its teachings.  People can disagree with or disapprove of the Church&#039;s belief system, but it seems kind of silly to attack the Church for checking to see if its religious groups are following the beliefs of the Church.

Once you get past the knee-jerk reactions and scare images, this story is actually kind of mundane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Catholic church is checking to see that various Catholic religious groups are in communion with the Church and its teachings.  People can disagree with or disapprove of the Church&#8217;s belief system, but it seems kind of silly to attack the Church for checking to see if its religious groups are following the beliefs of the Church.</p>
<p>Once you get past the knee-jerk reactions and scare images, this story is actually kind of mundane.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-777498</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I want to see that questionnaire!</description>
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		<title>By: AntagonistPrime</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-778544</link>
		<dc:creator>AntagonistPrime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could everyone opposing the burqa ban over here: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/04/woman-fined-for-wear.html

Please come to this thread and support the Vatican in their time honored tradition of oppressing veiled woman? 

No takers?

Guys?

*tumbleweed*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could everyone opposing the burqa ban over here: <a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/04/woman-fined-for-wear.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.boingboing.net/2010/05/04/woman-fined-for-wear.html</a></p>
<p>Please come to this thread and support the Vatican in their time honored tradition of oppressing veiled woman? </p>
<p>No takers?</p>
<p>Guys?</p>
<p>*tumbleweed*</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-777538</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;heaven forbid they be considered &#039;feminists&#039; or &#039;activists&#039; or somehow less than &#039;obedient.&#039;&quot;
Right, and heaven forbid we take note that their fight against human trafficking is funded by the Catholic Church or that we withhold judgement until we actually know something relevant about why there is an investigation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;heaven forbid they be considered &#8216;feminists&#8217; or &#8216;activists&#8217; or somehow less than &#8216;obedient.&#8217;&#8221;<br />
Right, and heaven forbid we take note that their fight against human trafficking is funded by the Catholic Church or that we withhold judgement until we actually know something relevant about why there is an investigation.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank W</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-777815</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was raised &lt;abbr title=&quot;Remotely Controlled&quot;&gt;RC&lt;/abbr&gt;. That&#039;s short for Remotely Controlled, by the way. Thankfully, I&#039;m tuned to a different frequency now. 
I, for one, am all for it. I sure hope the Church of Rome will succeed in driving out anyone who makes any sense at all, so that it can quietly sink into irrelevance, wither away and die. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised <abbr title="Remotely Controlled">RC</abbr>. That&#8217;s short for Remotely Controlled, by the way. Thankfully, I&#8217;m tuned to a different frequency now.<br />
I, for one, am all for it. I sure hope the Church of Rome will succeed in driving out anyone who makes any sense at all, so that it can quietly sink into irrelevance, wither away and die. </p>
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		<title>By: BookGuy</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-777569</link>
		<dc:creator>BookGuy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the selfless tasks of charity performed by nuns don&#039;t really count if the nuns are secretly harboring thoughtcrimes...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the selfless tasks of charity performed by nuns don&#8217;t really count if the nuns are secretly harboring thoughtcrimes&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-777830</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a much wider investigation.  The official Apostolic Visitation website is at
http://www.apostolicvisitation.org/en/index.html
and see
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/apostolic_visitation_is_moving_forward_despite_boycott_reports/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a much wider investigation.  The official Apostolic Visitation website is at<br />
<a href="http://www.apostolicvisitation.org/en/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.apostolicvisitation.org/en/index.html</a><br />
and see<br />
<a href="http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/apostolic_visitation_is_moving_forward_despite_boycott_reports/" rel="nofollow">http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/apostolic_visitation_is_moving_forward_despite_boycott_reports/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-778604</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The very fact that &quot;feminism&quot; and &quot;activism&quot; are reasons listed for this &quot;follow-up&quot; should tell you that this investigation is simply more papal bull (if you&#039;ll pardon the pun) and that there is nothing relevant to know.

There comes a time when you stop giving the benefit of the doubt to an organization that has repeatedly shown itself to be bass-ackward.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The very fact that &#8220;feminism&#8221; and &#8220;activism&#8221; are reasons listed for this &#8220;follow-up&#8221; should tell you that this investigation is simply more papal bull (if you&#8217;ll pardon the pun) and that there is nothing relevant to know.</p>
<p>There comes a time when you stop giving the benefit of the doubt to an organization that has repeatedly shown itself to be bass-ackward.</p>
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		<title>By: oohShiny</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-777846</link>
		<dc:creator>oohShiny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Headline reads: World&#039;s Most Socially Backward Institution Does Something Socially Backward -- Again! 

I mean really. We&#039;re talking about a religion where the last &quot;great progressive&quot; leader (JP2) thought a woman&#039;s place was in the kitchen. 

&quot;The Vatican says it&#039;s following up on complaints of feminism and activism.&quot;

Are we really surprised by the possibility that they have a problem with feminism and activism?

 /knee-jerk reaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Headline reads: World&#8217;s Most Socially Backward Institution Does Something Socially Backward &#8212; Again! </p>
<p>I mean really. We&#8217;re talking about a religion where the last &#8220;great progressive&#8221; leader (JP2) thought a woman&#8217;s place was in the kitchen. </p>
<p>&#8220;The Vatican says it&#8217;s following up on complaints of feminism and activism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are we really surprised by the possibility that they have a problem with feminism and activism?</p>
<p> /knee-jerk reaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Daemon</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-777627</link>
		<dc:creator>Daemon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, child molestation is fine, but helping women isn&#039;t.
Note to self: the catholic church really could use some restructuring. They may want to consider adding sanity as prerequisites for advancements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, child molestation is fine, but helping women isn&#8217;t.<br />
Note to self: the catholic church really could use some restructuring. They may want to consider adding sanity as prerequisites for advancements.</p>
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		<title>By: das memsen</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-777648</link>
		<dc:creator>das memsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Catholic Church has a long history of bloody hypocrisy, just like nuns, fathers and monks have a long history of social and political activism. So what else is new?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Catholic Church has a long history of bloody hypocrisy, just like nuns, fathers and monks have a long history of social and political activism. So what else is new?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-779219</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol - precisely. Anyone who is guilty of thoughtcrimes is hellbound. Stupid church.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol &#8211; precisely. Anyone who is guilty of thoughtcrimes is hellbound. Stupid church.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-777949</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Right, and heaven forbid we take note that their fight against human trafficking is funded by the Catholic Church&quot;

That funding isn&#039;t coming from the Vatican&#039;s personal stash, it&#039;s coming from the charitable contributions of those who, like these nuns, take the &quot;love thy neighbor as thyself&quot; teaching far more seriously than the hierarchy does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Right, and heaven forbid we take note that their fight against human trafficking is funded by the Catholic Church&#8221;</p>
<p>That funding isn&#8217;t coming from the Vatican&#8217;s personal stash, it&#8217;s coming from the charitable contributions of those who, like these nuns, take the &#8220;love thy neighbor as thyself&#8221; teaching far more seriously than the hierarchy does.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://boingboing.net/2010/05/04/vatican-investigates.html#comment-777717</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, those Sisters of St. Joseph of Peace are a radical lot, making sure there is medical care for all - sometimes the kind that doesn&#039;t agree with the misogynist leanings of the Vatican (yes the Pacific NW is as far as you can get from Rome) when it comes to women and their health.   But it&#039;s better for the families involved and their communities.

Awesome.   This is of course happening when PeaceHealth is becoming a very successful health organization and potentially lucrative, if it weren&#039;t for that darn non-profit status.   Perhaps this is more about money then squashing nuns, they are sort of weak now with most of the sisters retiring and the group relying on laypeople more then ever.

- Ethel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, those Sisters of St. Joseph of Peace are a radical lot, making sure there is medical care for all &#8211; sometimes the kind that doesn&#8217;t agree with the misogynist leanings of the Vatican (yes the Pacific NW is as far as you can get from Rome) when it comes to women and their health.   But it&#8217;s better for the families involved and their communities.</p>
<p>Awesome.   This is of course happening when PeaceHealth is becoming a very successful health organization and potentially lucrative, if it weren&#8217;t for that darn non-profit status.   Perhaps this is more about money then squashing nuns, they are sort of weak now with most of the sisters retiring and the group relying on laypeople more then ever.</p>
<p>- Ethel</p>
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